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Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 5:00am On Oct 20, 2007
Afam:

Is this how you insult your father at home?

grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy This man pls attend counseling. cheesy cheesy You have serious problems with your personality.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Afam(m): 5:07am On Oct 20, 2007
davidylan:

grin grin grin grin cheesy cheesy This man please attend counseling. cheesy cheesy You have serious problems with your personality.

Your case would have been manageable if it was restricted to having problems with your personality but unfortunately it is not.

Just remember we reply in kind so before you complain about any comment check yours first, silly.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 5:10am On Oct 20, 2007
Afam:

Your case would have been manageable if it was restricted to having problems with your personality but unfortunately it is not.

Just remember we reply in kind so before you complain about any comment check yours first, silly.

massa, your over-inflated egotitis disease is beyond redemption. grin grin
the same man who cries so loudly about "sticking to issues". . . i see how well you do that. hypocrite.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Afam(m): 5:14am On Oct 20, 2007
It is normal for one to face issues and also respond to insults accordingly. Not doing so will give people like you the time and energy to insult anyone that disagrees with you while hoping that your insults won't be responded to, in kind.

What makes you think you can insult people and not be insulted back? Do you really think at all? You will be the first to insult and you will be the first to complain about insults, your hypocrisy is stinking.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 5:25am On Oct 20, 2007
Afam:

It is normal for one to face issues and also respond to insults accordingly. Not doing so will give people like you the time and energy to insult anyone that disagrees with you while hoping that your insults won't be responded to, in kind.

What makes you think you can insult people and not be insulted back? Do you really think at all? You will be the first to insult and you will be the first to complain about insults, your hypocrisy is stinking.

nah, climb off your high-horse chairman. I never complain about insults least from faceless people on the internet who struggle to boost their flagging self confidence by making so much noise on the internet.
you like to bandy the "i am merely replying insults in kind" line but unfortunately its all a ruse. Half the time you are insulting people not because they insult you but because they expose you for the fraud and ignorant fellow that you really are.

you've put up a new thread from your infamous "inbox", do you mind leaving YOUR OPPINION first before crying about focusing on issues? If having an oppinion consisted of just posting what came out of our various email boxes this place will be one long history textbook.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Afam(m): 9:43am On Oct 20, 2007
Ultimately this forum will teach you one or two things in life.

You don't have a right to ask people to write on any particular topic, in fact what reasonable people do when they see content they believe don't make sense is click the back button, I do it quite often, learn to do so it will reduce the level of frustration you are experiencing here.

The irony of it all is that it is still the same people that complain about the "from my inbox" threads that will be the first to rush there and rather than assimilate the content will start to divert attention from the main issues raised while insulting others in the process.

Learn to engage in other social activities as it seems that your whole life revolves around this forum as that may be why you must register multiple IDs anytime you are banned.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 2:49pm On Oct 20, 2007
Afam:

Learn to engage in other social activities as it seems that your whole life revolves around this forum as that may be why you must register multiple IDs anytime you are banned.

you must be so "engaged in other social activities" that you have plenty of time to post idiotic lies from your famous "inbox". What a hypocrite.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Kobojunkie: 4:10pm On Oct 20, 2007
Well,  I guess this goes to show you can never satisfy people. That post CONFIRMS whatever was claimed in the POST that actually STARTED this THREAD was not founded on truth and NOW instead of conceding, attacking the millitary for making a mistake is the way to go JEEEZZZ!!!!

!!!SIGH


YOU CAN NEVER PLEASE SOME PEOPLE!!!!
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by naijaking1: 5:04pm On Oct 20, 2007
A series of serious mistakes by some U.S airforce personel led to all the speculations, I bought the conspiracy theory given the Bush administrations tract record.

Here's the latest on this topic.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-nuke20oct20,1,2808037.story?coll=la-headlines-nation

Thanks.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Kobojunkie: 5:17pm On Oct 20, 2007
I already posted the update yesterday, and from it came chaos instead
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by naijaking1: 5:34pm On Oct 20, 2007
Yeah, I saw the update, I thought this might suppliment it, and bring attention back to the thread.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Tornadoz(m): 5:44pm On Oct 20, 2007
Rather than exploding munitions in poor countries like Afghanistan, lets hope the US implode instead. Our prayers may be answered sooner than you think, can't wait to watch it on screen as long as its not in a black neighbourhood.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 5:50pm On Oct 20, 2007
Tornadoz:

Rather than exploding munitions in poor countries like Afghanistan, lets hope the US implode instead. Our prayers may be answered sooner than you think, can't wait to watch it on screen as long as its not in a black neighbourhood.

grin grin grin By the time the US implodes, Nigeria will be no more. We'll see who will buy ur oil.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Tornadoz(m): 5:56pm On Oct 20, 2007
davidylan:

grin grin grin By the time the US implodes, Nigeria will be no more. We'll see who will buy your oil.
Are you rehearsing your best joke of the year here? Are you saying China and India would refuse our finest crude? Nigeria use to be (during Carter's reign) the second largest oil supplier to the US. When they relegated us, the impact at worst was minimal. Who does Venezuela sell its oil to?
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 7:05pm On Oct 20, 2007
lol The US is China's largest market. Only morons who have no clue what they are talking about think the world will simply move along when the US implodes.
European and Asian economies will collapse like a pack of cards without the US. Keep dreaming, no one will even notice africa exists by then.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Tornadoz(m): 7:15pm On Oct 20, 2007
In your world we live at the mercy of the mighty US forgeting China is now keeping most US companies afloat. Stay deluded.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Nobody: 7:25pm On Oct 20, 2007
Tornadoz:

In your world we live at the mercy of the mighty US forgeting China is now keeping most US companies afloat. Stay deluded.

lol the US was already a powerful nation when China was still a third world country. It is extremely silly to think that the US will fold if China were to collapse tomorrow. You are not only deluded, you are seriously poor intellectually.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Kobojunkie: 9:09pm On Oct 20, 2007
Tornadoz:

Rather than exploding munitions in poor countries like Afghanistan, lets hope the US implode instead. Our prayers may be answered sooner than you think, can't wait to watch it on screen as long as its not in a black neighbourhood.

Why do you need the US to implode?? @Tornadoz , What did the country do to you in particular that you need it to implode for you?? I mean has the US done worse to you than your own country has that you desire to see it implode?? @Tornadoz. Please Enlighten us
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Iman3(m): 11:37pm On Oct 20, 2007
Tornadoz:

Are you rehearsing your best joke of the year here? Are you saying China and India would refuse our finest crude? Nigeria use to be (during Carter's reign) the second largest oil supplier to the US. When they relegated us, the impact at worst was minimal. Who does Venezuela sell its oil to?

Your posts are mind bogglingly stupefying.If the world's largest importer of crude oil,consumning 25% of global oil production,where to implode,how does that help oil producers? China's economic growth,nay most nations on earth, depends largely on export to the US market-20-25% of the global market.

There is an old adage,if the US sneezes, the rest of the world catches a cold.Anybody with the least bit of understanding of economics will know that global economic growth depends on the state of the US economy.If the US economy enters into a recession,its demand for import falls hurting both oil producers and importers alike who export to the US.Oil producers are hurt by US prolonged economic meltdown in 2 ways-

-Revenue from the US market is hurt because of drop in demand

-Revenue from other markets-India,China,S.Korea,e.t.c is hurt because those countries have lost substantial export income from the US which they use in paying for their oil imports.

The relationship between China and the US is symbiotic,viz,China depends on investment and export revenue from the US and the US benefits from Chinese investment in US Treasury bonds.For now,China benefits far more than the US but as China continues to grow,it will be able to sustain economic growth without the US export market.That is many decades away and might not be in our lifetime.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Afam(m): 12:12am On Oct 21, 2007
Tornadoz:

In your world we live at the mercy of the mighty US forgeting China is now keeping most US companies afloat. Stay deluded.

Can you convince Bush to get the US out of Iraq? If you can not then there is just a very remote chance that you can educate some of the users here on the reality on ground and not just old or popular sayings.

Meanwhile, have fun as you try your best.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by Mariory(m): 5:06pm On Oct 21, 2007
Tornadoz:

In your world we live at the mercy of the mighty US forgeting China is now keeping most US companies afloat. Stay deluded.

The nonsense spouted by some people is amazing.
Re: Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons To Middle East Theater – By Wayne Madsen by zwar: 2:33am On May 11, 2015
Afam:
From my inbox, very interesting article.

Read and enjoy!

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Air Force Refused To Fly Weapons to Middle East Theater –
By Wayne Madsen

WMR has learned from U.S. and foreign intelligence sources
that the B-52 transporting six stealth AGM-129 Advanced
Cruise Missiles, each armed with a W-80-1 nuclear warhead,
on August 30, were destined for the Middle East via
Barksdale Air Force Base in Louisiana.

However, elements of the Air Force, supported by U.S.
intelligence agency personnel, successfully revealed the
ultimate destination of the nuclear weapons and the mission
was aborted due to internal opposition within the Air Force
and U.S. Intelligence Community.

Yesterday, the /Washington Post/ attempted to explain away
the fact that America's nuclear command and control system
broke down in an unprecedented manner by reporting that it
was the result of "security failures at multiple levels."
It is now apparent that the command and control breakdown,
reported as a BENT SPEAR incident to the Secretary of
Defense and White House, was not the result of a command
and control chain-of-command "failures" but the result of
a revolt and push back by various echelons within the Air
Force and intelligence agencies against a planned U.S.
attack on Iran using nuclear and conventional weapons.

The /Washington Post/ story on BENT SPEAR may have
actually been an effort in damage control by the Bush
administration. WMR has been informed by a knowledgeable
source that one of the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles
was, and may still be, unaccounted for. In that case, the
nuclear reporting incident would have gone far beyond BENT
SPEAR to a National Command Authority alert known as EMPTY
QUIVER, with the special classification of PINNACLE.

Just as this report was being prepared, /Newsweek/ reported
that Vice President Dick Cheney's recently-departed Middle
East adviser, David Wurmser, told a small group of advisers
some months ago that Cheney had considered asking Israel
to launch a missile attack on the Iranian nuclear site at
Natanz. Cheney reasoned that after an Iranian retaliatory
strike, the United States would have ample reasons to
launch its own massive attack on Iran. However, plans for
Israel to attack Iran directly were altered to an Israeli
attack on a supposed Syrian-Iranian-North Korean nuclear
installation in northern Syria.

WMR has learned that a U.S. attack on Iran using nuclear
and conventional weapons was scheduled to coincide with
Israel's September 6 air attack on a reputed Syrian nuclear
facility in Dayr az-Zwar, near the village of Tal Abyad,
in northern Syria, near the Turkish border. Israel's
attack, code named OPERATION ORCHARD, was to provide a
reason for the U.S. to strike Iran. The neo-conservative
propaganda onslaught was to cite the cooperation of the
George Bush's three remaining "Axis of Evil" states --
Syria, Iran, and North Korea -- to justify a sustained
Israeli attack on Syria and a massive U.S. military attack
on Iran.

WMR has learned from military sources on both sides of the
Atlantic that there was a definite connection between
Israel's OPERATION ORCHARD and BENT SPEAR involving the
B-52 that flew the six nuclear-armed cruise missiles from
Minot Air Force Base in North Dakota to Barksdale. There
is also a connection between these two events as the
Pentagon's highly-classified PROJECT CHECKMATE, a compart-
mented U.S. Air Force program that has been working on an
attack plan for Iran since June 2007, around the same time
that Cheney was working on the joint Israeli-U.S. attack
scenario on Iran.

PROJECT CHECKMATE was leaked in an article by military
analyst Eric Margolis in the Rupert Murdoch-owned news-
paper, the /Times of London/, is a program that involves
over two dozen Air Force officers and is headed by Brig.
Gen. Lawrence Stutzriem and his chief civilian adviser,
Dr. Lani Kass, a former Israeli military intelligence
officer who, astoundingly, is now involved in planning a
joint U.S.-Israeli massive military attack on Iran that
involves a "decapitating" blow on Iran by hitting between
three to four thousand targets in the country. Stutzriem
and Kass report directly to the Air Force Chief of Staff,
General Michael Moseley, who has also been charged with
preparing a report on the B-52/nuclear weapons incident.

Kass' area of speciality is cyber-warfare, which includes
ensuring "information blockades," such as that imposed by
the Israeli government on the Israeli media regarding the
Syrian air attack on the alleged Syrian "nuclear installa-
tion." British intelligence sources have reported that the
Israeli attack on Syria was a "true flag" attack originally
designed to foreshadow a U.S. attack on Iran. After the
U.S. Air Force push back against transporting the six
cruise nuclear-armed AGM-129s to the Middle East, Israel
went ahead with its attack on Syria in order to help
ratchet up tensions between Washington on one side and
Damascus, Tehran, and Pyongyang on the other.

The other part of CHECKMATE's brief is to ensure that a
media "perception management" is waged against Syria, Iran,
and North Korea. This involves articles such as that which
appeared with Joby Warrick's and Walter Pincus' bylines in
yesterdays /Washington Post/. The article, titled "The Saga
of a Bent Spear," quotes a number of seasoned Air Force
nuclear weapons experts as saying that such an incident is
unprecedented in the history of the Air Force. For example,
Retired Air Force General Eugene Habiger, the former chief
of the U.S. Strategic Command, said he has been in the
"nuclear business" since 1966 and has never been aware of
an incident "more disturbing."

Command and control breakdowns involving U.S. nuclear
weapons are unprecedented, except for that fact that the
U.S. military is now waging an internal war against neo-
cons who are embedded in the U.S. government and military
chain of command who are intent on using nuclear weapons
in a pre-emptive war with Iran.

CHECKMATE and OPERATION ORCHARD would have provided the
cover for a pre-emptive U.S. and Israeli attack on Iran
had it not been for BENT SPEAR involving the B-52. In on
the plan to launch a pre-emptive attack on Iran involving
nuclear weapons were, according to our sources, Cheney,
National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley; members of the
CHECKMATE team at the Pentagon, who have close connections
to Israeli intelligence and pro-Israeli think tanks in
Washington, including the Hudson Institute; British Foreign
Secretary David Miliband, a political adviser to Tony Blair
prior to becoming a Member of Parliament; Israeli political
leaders like Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Likud leader
Binyamin Netanyahu; and French Foreign Minister Bernard
Kouchner, who did his part last week to ratchet up tensions
with Iran by suggesting that war with Iran was a prob-
ability. Kouchner retracted his statement after the U.S.
plans for Iran were delayed.

Although the Air Force tried to keep the B-52 nuclear
incident from the media, anonymous Air Force personnel
leaked the story to /Military Times/ on September 5, the
day before the Israelis attacked the alleged nuclear
installation in Syria and the day planned for the
simultaneous U.S. attack on Iran. The leaking of classified
information on U.S. nuclear weapons disposition or movement
to the media, is, itself, unprecedented. Air Force
regulations require the sending of classified BEELINE
reports to higher Air Force authorities on the disclosure
of classified Air Force information to the media.

In another highly unusual move, Defense Secretary Robert
Gates has asked an outside inquiry board to look into BENT
SPEAR, even before the Air Force has completed its own
investigation, a virtual vote of no confidence in the
official investigation being conducted by Major General
Douglas Raaberg, chief of air and space operations at the
Air Combat Command.

Gates asked former Air Force Chief of Staff, retired
General Larry Welch, to lead a Defense Science Board task
force that will also look into the BENT SPEAR incident.
The official Air Force investigation has reportedly been
delayed for unknown reasons. Welch is President and CEO
of the Institute for Defense Analysis (IDA), a federally-
funded research contractor that operates three research
centers, including one for Office of Science and Technology
Policy in the Executive Office of the President and another
for the National Security Agency. One of the board members
of IDA is Dr. Suzanne H. Woolsey of the Paladin Capital
Group and wife of former CIA director and arch-neocon James
Woolsey.

WMR has learned that neither the upper echelons of the
State Department nor the British Foreign Office were privy
to OPERATION ORCHARD, although Hadley briefed President
Bush on Israeli spy satellite intelligence that showed the
Syrian installation was a joint nuclear facility built
with North Korean and Iranian assistance. However, it is
puzzling why Hadley would rely on Israeli imagery
intelligence (IMINT) from its OFEK (Horizon) 7 satellite
when considering that U.S. IMINT satellites have greater
capabilities.

The Air Force's "information warfare" campaign against
media reports on CHECKMATE and OPERATION ORCHARD also
affected international reporting of the recent Inter-
national Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) resolution asking
Israel to place its nuclear weapons program under IAEA
controls, similar to those that the United States wants
imposed on Iran and North Korea. The resolution also
called for a nuclear-free zone throughout the Middle East.
The IAEA's resolution, titled "Application of IAEA Safe-
guards in the Middle East," was passed by the 144-member
IAEA General Meeting on September 20 by a vote of 53 to 2,
with 47 abstentions. The only two countries to vote
against were Israel and the United States. However, the
story carried from the IAEA meeting in Vienna by Reuters,
the Associated Press, and Agence France Press, was that it
was Arab and Islamic nations that voted for the resolution.

This was yet more perception management carried out by
CHECKMATE, the White House, and their allies in Europe and
Israel with the connivance of the media. In fact, among
the 53 nations that voted for the resolution were China,
Russia, India, Ireland, and Japan. The 47 abstentions were
described as votes "against" the resolution even though an
abstention is neither a vote for nor against a measure.
America's close allies, including Britain, France,
Australia, Canada, and Georgia, all abstained.

Suspiciously, the IAEA carried only a brief item on the
resolution concerning Israel's nuclear program and a roll
call vote was not available either at the IAEA's web site
-- www.iaea.org -- or in the media.

The perception management campaign by the neocon operation-
al cells in the Bush administration, Israel and Europe was
designed to keep a focus on Iran's nuclear program, not on
Israel's. Any international examination of Israel's nuclear
weapons program would likely bring up Israeli nuclear
scientist Mordechai Vanunu, a covert from Judaism to
Christianity, who was kidnapped in Rome by a Mossad "honey
trap" named Cheryl Bentov (aka, Cindy) and a Mossad team
in 1986 and held against his will in Israel ever since.

Vanunu's knowledge of the Israeli nuclear weapons program
would focus on the country's own role in nuclear pro-
liferation, including its program to share nuclear weapons
technology with apartheid South Africa and Taiwan in the
late 1970s and 1980s. The role of Ronald Reagan's Director
of the Arms Control and Disarmament Agency Ken Adelman in
Israeli's nuclear proliferation during the time frame 1983-
1987 would also come under scrutiny. Adelman, a member of
the Reagan-Bush transition State Department team from
November 1980 to January 1981, voiced his understanding for
the nuclear weapons programs of Israel, South Africa, and
Taiwan in a June 28, 1981 /New York Times/ article titled,
"3 Nations Widening Nuclear Contacts." The journalist who
wrote the article was Judith Miller. Adelman felt that the
three countries wanted nuclear weapons because of their
ostracism from the West, the third world, and the hostility
from the Communist countries. Of course, today, the same
argument can be used by Iran, North Korea, and other "Axis
of Evil" nations so designated by the neocons in the Bush
administration and other governments.

There are also news reports that suggest an intelligence
relationship between Israel and North Korea. On July 21,
2004, New Zealand's /Dominion Post/ reported that three
Mossad agents were involved in espionage in New Zealand.
Two of the Mossad agents, Uriel Kelman and Elisha Cara
(aka Kra), were arrested and imprisoned by New Zealand
police (an Israeli diplomat in Canberra, Amir Lati, was
expelled by Australia and New Zealand intelligence
identified a fourth Mossad agent involved in the New
Zealand espionage operation in Singapore). The third
Mossad agent in New Zealand, Zev William Barkan (aka Lev
Bruckenstein), fled New Zealand -- for North Korea.

New Zealand Foreign Minister Phil Goff revealed that
Barkan, a former Israeli Navy diver, had previously worked
at the Israeli embassy in Vienna, which is also the head-
quarters of the IAEA. He was cited by the /Sydney Morning
Herald/ as trafficking in passports stolen from foreign
tourists in Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, and Cambodia. New
Zealand's One News reported that Barkan was in North Korea
to help the nation build a wall to keep its citizens from
leaving.

The nuclear brinkmanship involving the United States and
Israel and the breakdown in America's command and control
systems have every major capital around the world wondering
about the Bush administration's true intentions.

NOTE: WMR understands the risks to informed individuals in
reporting the events of August 29/30, to the present time,
that concern the discord within the U.S. Air Force, U.S.
intelligence agencies, and other military services. Any
source with relevant information and who wishes to contact
us anonymously may drop off sealed correspondence at or
send mail via the Postal Service to: Wayne Madsen, c/o The
Front Desk, National Press Club, 13th Floor, 529 14th St.,
NW, Washington, DC, 20045.

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Wow you have plenty of time to waste trying to list ZWAR..
I am happy, that i have inspired you to do so...Loolz... grin grin grin grin grin grin
Ignorance is bliss....

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