Welcome to Nigeria
The country of savages, see how people are saying good move.
Tell us the difference between the cop and the lynch mob?
Next time when someone lynches your family member don't forget to congrats him too.
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Sagamite:

Fck the law.

Ha ha famous last words, hollered at the judge as the bailiffs escort the accused off.  

Just kidding man.   If you have no qualms bout "dominating" the activities of a lynch mob, my humble opinions expressed here will never change any of that.    I just happen to regard those who participate in lynch mobs as murderous cowards, and thus would like to think that you are simply playing devil's advocate as you extol the pleasures of slaughtering mob victims, but if I am wrong in that assumption, then suffice to say your concept of civilized conduct is at extreme variance with mine.    

For me, a muffugguh needs to point a loaded weapon at me to make killing cross my mind as an option, and I simply cannot bear the thought of a mob setting a human being ablaze, no matter the ALLEGED offense of the victim.  The mere thought of such mass insanity makes my flesh crawl.   The global internet audience that witnesses such barbarity will marvel at the sheer backwardness of Africans, and come to regard ALL who occupy that entire continent as primitive, blood-thirsty sub-humans, but hey, if that don't matter to you, then that's all that matters.  It ain't no thang.

Jakumo:

Ha ha famous last words, hollered at the judge as the bailiffs escort the accused off.  

Kai! You have seen me in real life before? 

Jakumo:

Just kidding man.   If you have no qualms bout "dominating" the activities of a lynch mob, my humble opinions expressed here will never change any of that.    I just happen to regard those who participate in lynch mobs as murderous cowards, and thus would like to think that you are simply playing devil's advocate as you extol the pleasures of slaughtering mob victims, but if I am wrong in that assumption, then suffice to say your concept of civilized conduct is at extreme variance with mine.

No, they are not cowards under this circumstance. They are heroes. They are defending the rights of others where the law has failed repeatedly in defending such.

I believe in pragmatism and expedience.   

Calling them murderous cowards is like calling those that take to the streets to protest the stealing of their votes in an unfair democratic election, anarchists!

Why do you think policemen in USA, UK and other similar countries will not dare shoot people at will like the Nigerian policeman?

Jakumo:

For me, a muffugguh needs to point a loaded weapon at me to make killing cross my mind as an option, and I simply cannot bear the thought of a mob setting a human being ablaze, no matter the ALLEGED offense of the victim.  The mere thought of such mass insanity makes my flesh crawl.   The global internet audience that witnesses such barbarity will marvel at the sheer backwardness of Africans, and come to regard ALL who occupy that entire continent as primitive, blood-thirsty sub-humans, but hey, if that don't matter to you, then that's all that matters.  It ain't no thang.

You are still blowing grammar.

Oyinbo ni gbogbo eleyi to nso!

There might be cases where mob justice is unjustified but this is not one. The people have waited years for the law to act and protect them but those in charge of the law just dismiss the people and their lives as worth nothing.

We are different because I surely took delight in watching Ghaddafi being beaten and murdered. I took delight in watching Samuel Doe being tortured and killed. People in power that don't believe in laws and human rights and heartlessly torment others should not be shouting for law and human rights when they are in trouble, powerless and helpless.

Jakumo

Personally I would not hesitate to use deadly force in a self-defence situation where my own life is in immediate peril, but I would NEVER contemplate joining any ululating crowd that descends on a helpless, disarmed human being, beating to death and then setting alight the victim.   Every person who partakes of such frontier "justice" is no better than the individual being killed in that macabre extra-judicial manner, and has, by engaging in such wanton savagery, descended to the status of a cold-blooded sadist and murderer forever after.   The same mob who killed the rogue cop in this instance would be equally inclined to chase down and burn to death further random victims selected on the flimsiest of excuses, ranging from alleged theft of reproductive organs to purported withcraft or petty, non-violent theft.

@^^^ Truthfully, your sentiments are very much desirable [/b]and must be the norm in any [b]sane/civilised [/b]society but is that the case in Nigeria especially the South? Have you noticed the difference in outcry/reaction about extra-judicial killings in the North? The people in the North of the country are not accustomed to police [b]abuse and impunity [/b]hence the general outcry by "high" and "low" and implicit sympathy for BH by the populace. We cannot continue to pretend that all is well with us as a nation/people. A lot of Nigerians are psychologically disturbed/sick and our police men/ women are not different. We have become inured to ugliness, wickedness and general depredation around us. How do you make sense out of [b]deliberate disorder and chaos by those who have been given the "authority" to manage and police our collective crisis? I am not inherently pro lynching of police men but when you have been pushed against the wall by these omnipresent "powerful" men and women systematically robbing, extorting and abusing citizens with impunity, sooner or later there will be a[b] sudden[/b] eruption of rage/rebellion. I wonder if you realised that much of the so called "Check-points" are illegal and have severally been abolished by the authorities since Obj times, yet they continue with impunity everywhere in the South of Nigeria, daring the citizens to do their worse . I am very much aware that the Nigerian mission(embassy) in R.P. Benin have severally complained about numerous and unnecessary check points along the Mile 2 to Seme border post of Nigeria. What is wrong with our Police? Why do they deliberately create problems where there are none? Are they customs and excise and immigration officers? Until recently they were constant inevitable nuisance at the sea ports(Apapa and Tin-Can) before Ngozi Iweala ordered unauthorised persons to vacate the Ports.

Ghadaffi and Sammy Doe were despots who had murdered scores if not thousands of political opponents, so their deaths, brutal as they were, were necessary evils, to prevent those monsters from escaping to perhaps later de-stabilize entire nations.  In Nigeria, on the other hand, starving people who steal a few crumbs to eat are slaughtered by mobs.  That is dead wrong, and NOBODY is safe in that country for as long as they could be set upon for no sane reason by mobs formed instantly on any given city street, beaten to death and incinerated in front of impressionable children, all simply because of a shouted accusation that could be entirely false and groundless.

The problem with civilians taking the law into their hands in a "peacetime" society is that the categories of offenders who the mob agrees should be killed ALWAYS expand and multiply in number, till you get to the point where merely shouting the word "thief", or "witch" could result in an INNOCENT person being chased down, beaten to death and burnt to ashes.  That, sadly, is the situation in many Nigerian cities and towns, and I firmly believe that such spontaneous killing dehumanizes all involved - both the victims and those who gleefully commit murder in  frenzied groups.  

@Cheikh I understand the rage of the oppressed, BUT, each individual still has the option to conduct themselves as a civilized human being, even in the most unjust of societies. Burning to death another person poisons the mind and corrodes the humanity of all involved, turning seemingly normal people into blood-thirsty monsters just waiting for a chance to attack and kill a perceived or alleged offender.

cheikh:

Jakumo Personally I would not hesitate to use deadly force in a self-defence situation where my own life is in immediate peril, but I would NEVER contemplate joining any ululating crowd that descends on a helpless, disarmed human being, beating to death and then setting alight the victim.   Every person who partakes of such frontier "justice" is no better than the individual being killed in that macabre extra-judicial manner, and has, by engaging in such wanton savagery, descended to the status of a cold-blooded sadist and murderer forever after.   The same mob who killed the rogue cop in this instance would be equally inclined to chase down and burn to death further random victims selected on the flimsiest of excuses, ranging from alleged theft of reproductive organs to purported withcraft or petty, non-violent theft.

This is the exact modus operandi of the Nigerian police, except for the setting alight part. With all due respect, you and Jakumo have no idea the type of people we are talking about here. It is true, he who knows it feels it. Many Nigerians have been killed by the police without any justice for them whatsoever.
I have my own horrible experience with them, they are all animals.

Jakumo:

Ghadaffi and Sammy Doe were despots who had murdered scores if not thousands of political opponents, so their deaths, brutal as they were, were necessary evils, to prevent those monsters from escaping to perhaps later de-stabilize entire nations.  In Nigeria, on the other hand, starving people who steal a few crumbs to eat are slaughtered by mobs.  That is dead wrong, and NOBODY is safe in that country for as long as they could be set upon for no sane reason by mobs formed instantly on any given city street, beaten to death and incinerated in front of impressionable children, all simply because of a shouted accusation that could be entirely false and groundless.

The problem with civilians taking the law into their hands in a "peacetime" society is that the categories of offenders who the mob agrees should be killed ALWAYS expand and multiply in number, till you get to the point where merely shouting the word "thief", or "witch" could result in an INNOCENT person being chased down, beaten to death and burnt to ashes.  That, sadly, is the situation in many Nigerian cities and towns, and I firmly believe that such spontaneous killing dehumanizes all involved - both the victims and those who gleefully commit murder in  frenzied groups.  

We are not talking about a starving person here. We are talking about a police officer so power-drunk, heartless and emboldened to shoot a man in the face for refusing to give him bribe.

A policeman so confident he can do that and get away with it.

Can you blame him? One of the police officers that "arrested" the 15 year old girl for riding Okada at 9pm (outrageous offence) and went to r[i]a[/i]pe for a month only got a demotion until people shouted. The DPO that the case was reported to and did ZILT except apologise and told the family to let the matter die is still in his job. The Police Commissioner that did not deal with these people is still driving around in police entourage doing big man. Are those the people and system the public should rely on?

Fck the law.

When a few of them and their inactive bosses are killed, trust me they will take the matter seriously.

The cop might have been guilty of murder, but many other categories of trivial non-violent crime can and do trigger IDENTICAL beating to death by mobs on Nigerian streets.   With jungle "justice",  any correlation between the gravity of the crime and that of the punishment all goes out the window, to be replaced with a uniform penalty of humiliation, torture and death for all people simply accused of anything by screaming members of the public. 

It is impossible to regulate mob murders, and there certainly is no appeal process once the beating begins.   How do you feel, Shagamite, about the drivers on Nigerian roads whose vehicles knocked down pedestrians due to brake failure, only to be dragged out from behind the wheel and killed in broad daylight by instantly formed mobs of "sympathisers" ?   Is that justice in your eyes ?   

Lynching is ILLEGAL by definition, and so there is no rule book available to educate potential lynch mob members about what class of criminals to kill, and who to spare.  That is the problem with instant mob "justice".    It is not justice by any stretch of the imagination, but is rather simply murder committed by multiple accomplices.  For as long as I live I will NEVER have a hand in that gore.

Jakumo:

The cop might have been guilty of murder, but many other categories of trivial non-violent crime can and do trigger IDENTICAL beating to death by mobs on Nigerian streets.   With jungle "justice",  any correlation between the gravity of the crime and that of the punishment all goes out the window, to be replaced with a uniform penalty of death for all people simply accused by screaming members of the public. 

It is impossible to regulate mob murders, and there certainly is no appeal process once the beating begins.   How do you feel, Shagamite, about the drivers on Nigerian roads whose vehicles knocked down pedestrians due to brake failure, only to be dragged out from behind the wheel and killed in broad daylight by instantly formed mobs of "sympathisers" ?   Is that justice in your eyes ?   

Lynching is ILLEGAL by definition, and so there is no rule book available to educate potential lynch mob members about what class of criminals to kill, and who to spare.  That is the problem with instant mob "justice".    It is not justice by any stretch of the imagination, but is rather simply murder committed by multiple accomplices.  For as long as I live I will NEVER have a hand in that gore.

We are not talking about who was beaten to death for adultery blah blah blah or any other categories.

We are talking about a policeman that shot a man in the face for bribe. I will never condemn that in Nigeria. That is justice.

I would be happy to have more of it when any policeman shoots an innocent civilian.

There is currently no indication or observation it will spill beyond that or has been the norm for other categories of recent. Let them continue taking other categories to police for trials (civil) but lynch any murderous police man they can (jungle).

Pragmatism and Expedience!

Why do you think such police killings does not happen in the UK/US and other countries?

Jakumo:

The cop might have been guilty of murder, but many other categories of trivial non-violent crime can and do trigger IDENTICAL beating to death by mobs on Nigerian streets.   With jungle "justice",  any correlation between the gravity of the crime and that of the punishment all goes out the window, to be replaced with a uniform penalty of humiliation, torture and death for all people simply accused of anything by screaming members of the public. 

It is impossible to regulate mob murders, and there certainly is no appeal process once the beating begins.   How do you feel, Shagamite, about the drivers on Nigerian roads whose vehicles knocked down pedestrians due to brake failure, only to be dragged out from behind the wheel and killed in broad daylight by instantly formed mobs of "sympathisers" ?   Is that justice in your eyes ?   

Lynching is ILLEGAL by definition, and so there is no rule book available to educate potential lynch mob members about what class of criminals to kill, and who to spare.  That is the problem with instant mob "justice".    It is not justice by any stretch of the imagination, but is rather simply murder committed by multiple accomplices.  For as long as I live I will NEVER have a hand in that gore.

The Nigerian police have done many of these without any justice for the victims. What do you do when the people untrusted with the law are the same people carrying out mob justice. I have witnessed people beaten by the Nigerian police to point where the victims are no longer responding to the kicks.
What about people who were just shot dead for as little as N20?

Sagamite:

Why do you think such police killings does not happen in the UK/US and other countries.

Actually, rogue cops in the US have been jailed for committing murder in the line of duty.  That is not a common occurrence, but it does happen once in a blue moon.    In every such case, they faced trial in the court of law, as it should be.

Anyways, one can not selectively approve of mob murder. It is either acceptable for accused witches and pick-pockets to be killed and incinerated by screaming mobs, or it is not acceptable. In the end, this is an individual choice for each person to make on their own.

I know where my conscience lies and how that will guide me along this road of life, and that, I suppose, will have to be good enough.

Jakumo:

Actually, rogue cops in the US have been jailed for committing murder in the line of duty.  That is not a common occurrence, but it does happen once in a blue moon.    In every such case, they faced trial in the court of law, as it should be.

They shot unarmed people in broad daylight for bribe?

Sagamite:

They shot unarmed people in broad daylight for bribe?

I never said that, but all the same, murder is murder, whether perpetrated by a cop, or by a mob.

Jakumo:

I never said that, but all the same, murder is murder, whether perpetrated by a cop, or by a mob.

But that is what I am asking you.

How come we see that every month (conservative estimate) for the past few years in Nigeria but almost impossible to see that in the UK/US?