justwise:

About what? Stopping Western Education? Islamising Nigeria? Can we meet their demands?

Ima Ima:

i said MUSLIMS, that means muslims, whether northern or southern. northern CHRISTIANS are not muslims.u said it urself.so get the difference.there are no sentiments here.

they read d same quoran and believe in Allah. whether they r yorubas, hausas or ibos, ISLAM is ISLAM

Lagos_Boi:

@frosbel ----Again , did they kill innocent women and children , and do they continue to do so today ?

So Americans/Israelis don't kill women and children too? that should make them terrorists don't you think so?

norrisman:

Wishfil thinking. Short of using a nuclear bomb, how do you expect the incompetent Nigerian military to achieve this when the mighty US failed woefully in places like Vietnam, Somalia and Afghanistan?

shabbie:

You don't know anything about Odi. If you do you won't wish it for people again. The Army killed every able bodied man there, violated their wives, mothers and daughters.

Did that solve the problem? MEND became more sophisticated and dangerous. They retreated into the swamps and caused mayhem, even the economy felt it.
The same goverment had to dialogue to bring the menace to an end.

kpolli:

If I remember well, b4 the army went to kill the Boko haram members, they struck first. . . . pls why did the writer leave this out we are not all dumb

zeeleso:

Reading through the first page of most posts on NL is quite exhausting. All the tribal and religious bashing. *sigh*
Prove it.


Anyone who can prove that Boko Haram attacked before "operation flush" clashed with them during a funeral should do so

frosbel:

The Palestinians have every right to ask for their land back. But killing civilians is not the solution, let them carry their fight to the soilders, to the UN.

But allow me ask , with your logic, how does this fit into Boko Haram situation, since Boko Haram has not been chased out of any land and are not therefore fighting for land.

That is your projected implication not mine.

Of course they are terrorists.

Again , did they kill innocent women and children , and do they continue to do so today ?

Sharia for the Muslims ONLY.

In Kano for example there are millions of non-muslims who do not want Sharia, why impose your beliefs on them  

Sharia for Muslims only is fine.

kpolli:

If I remember well, b4 the army went to kill the Boko haram members, they struck first. . . . pls why did the writer leave this out we are not all dumb

norrisman:

Good, we are getting somehwere. You are begining to see that there is no such thing as a good terrorist. So if the govt can negotiate with MEND, a known terrorist group, I see no reason why they cant to the same with BH

coogar:

except that mend did not bomb mosques or put innocent lives at risk in their own time.
they simply attacked government projects, damaged oil pipes and kidnapped foreign workers(0 casualty).

boko haram have killed men, women and children that are innocent.
there's a difference between the operation of both groups except of course you are a neophyte. . . .

norrisman:

So there are good and bad terrorists? All the MEND armed robbery casualties were soldiers abi? All the people that died in Abuja on independence day were soldiers abi. So soldiers guearing the countrys installatios are not innocent abi?

norrisman:

Did you watch the video? the people being murdered by the army in the video on page 1 do not look like BH members to me. Even if they were, when an army uses the same methods as a terrorist group, they become terrorists themselves.

norrisman:

So there are good and bad terrorists? All the MEND armed robbery casualties were soldiers abi? All the people that died in Abuja on independence day were soldiers abi. So soldiers guearing the countrys installatios are not innocent abi?

coogar:

there's no good/bad terrorists! however, the idealism of a terrorist group should be ethical.

i can understand why mend was against the government. till now, i cannot understand what boko haram want from the government.
what's there to dialogue with this bunch of murderers? mend were against the pollution of their environment plus the fact that government activities on their soil has rendered the people destitute.

what is the federal government doing in the north that is irking boko haram?

norrisman:

I am afraid terrorist and ethical can not go together in the same sentence. Ethical terrorist is an oxymoron.

If MEND was against pollution, why hasnt the pollution stopped? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/22/nigerian-shell-oil-spill) the story in the link tells you about the worst oil spill in Nigeria in over a decade. MEND members were just out to get their own share of the National cake.

[b]BH say they want sharia (sounds reasonable to me) [/b]and do not want western education (completely dumb and they have the choice of not sending their wards to western schools). In a democracy, you can ask for anything. It just has to be debated, you cannot reject it outright, no matter how dumb it sounds. I am sure you have heard of people in the west asking for the most ridiculous of man made religions like Jedi to be accepted by the state.

frosbel:

Nigeria is a secular state.

Sharia was only a political tool created to destabliise Obasanjo' regime.

Besdies Sharia is an intolerant, backward, stone age system of life.

What !!!

Cutting of hands, beheadings, public beatings etc.

You must be out of your mind.

shabbie:


And your own method of jungle justice for boko haram sounds better, Heh?
Like he said, it is a democratic state , they have a right to demand for anything, it is the government that decides through dialogue if they can get it or not.

norrisman:

I am afraid terrorist and ethical can not go together in the same sentence. Ethical terrorist  is an oxymoron.

If MEND was against pollution, why hasnt the pollution stopped? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/22/nigerian-shell-oil-spill) the story in the link tells you about the worst oil spill in Nigeria in over a decade. MEND members were just out to get their own share of the National cake.

BH say they want sharia (sounds reasonable to me) and do not want western education (completely dumb and they have the choice of not sending their wards to western schools). In a democracy, you can ask for anything. It just has to be debated, you cannot reject it outright, no matter how dumb it sounds. I am sure you have heard of people in the west asking for the most ridiculous of man made religions like Jedi to be accepted by the state.

frosbel:


Besdies Sharia is an intolerant, backward, stone age system of life.

What !!!

Cutting of hands, beheadings, public beatings etc.

You must be out of your mind.

norrisman:

Just as backward as sentencing a man to death by hanging for stealing a car stereo or maybe a quicker way firing squad. in the US a supposedly tolerant, forward, mordern sysrtem of life, they even use letha injection and sometimes they fry you (electric chair)

Our secular system of government that entrenches corruption where a ''microscopic few who have piloted the affairs of the country live in peasanted luxury and propensit solititude'' and the majority die in poverty. a system which orders its security forces to summarilly execute  people. A system which wipes out whole towns (Odi & Zaki biam). The list goes on.

I do not support sharia and I'll be honest and say I'll be the first to skip town if sharia was implemented where I lived but maybe these BH guys have had enough of secular governments failure and just wish to try something else out. Like I said earlier, there is no such thing as a dumb request in democracy. Nigeria is secular state but remember we passed a law banning homosexuality based on our christian and muslim moral values.

frosbel:


You call the arresting and trial of Boko Haram members and their sponsors and putting them into prison if found guilty Jungle Justice

coogar:

stop making your own arguments, boko haram fan boy.
i said the idealism must be ethical. . .

who is a terrorist? any individual or group of individuals who use violence to achieve their political goals
it is what they fight for that has to be reasonable not the group. . . . .bend your head around that!

that boko haram wants to impose sharia on 160 million nigerians is dumb, unreasonable and disgustingly foolish!

coogar:

nigeria is not a secular state - it's a multi-religious nation.

norrisman:

You are a joker. The constitution says Nigeria is a secular state where people are free to practise their faiths within the confines of the law without fear of persecution.

Toaskarity:

OH MY GOD! ARE SOME FOOL REALLY TRYING TO JUSTIFY BOKO HARAM FOR REAL ? IF SO THEN YOU ARE THE WORST HUMAN BEING ON EARTH,

like it or not, terrorist group or whatever has come to stay as far as islam is concern in Nigeria. The option is to invite western countries army into this case but lets even take countries that has did the same and ask, did terrorism stop there ? hell no! instead the case worsen, i dont actually know if ppl see muslim as i see them? their mode of thinking is totally different from ordinary ppl. So Nigeria govt should never worry about dialogue! terrorism has come to stay! guys get it into your skulls

my suggestion is that if actually they want arabian law/sharia or whatever to their states, then why not? give them what they want afterall they are the majority there and let there be peace for goodness sake! the christians there are minority, remember guys we are in Democracy and the majority got the decision so why the phuck will there own be different instead of ppl dying like cows. My fellow christians up there dont get mad at me, if actually that some americans or christians can live in arab countries and obey their law, why not northern Nigeria.

shabbie:


Yes. If that is what the constitution/law recommends; then that is justice!
But you insisting it should be an eye-for-an-eye still, I like you Christ-like attitude mate. NOT!

coogar:

there's a huge disconnect between what's written in your constitution and the reality on ground. i expect someone like you to know that.

nigeria is not a secular state. . . .if it is, a certain religious group would not attempt to impose their religious beliefs on 160 million nigerians. can you see such happening in the united states, the united kingdom or the other true secular states? no chance!

in nigeria, the secularity that is supposed to be unbiased and neutral has been severely compromised. there's no secularity in the political institutions and therefore it's unable to produce social capital among the citizenry. the secularism in nigeria is a liability instead of an asset that the constitution describes it to be.

in a nutshell, we are a multi-religious state.
anyone who believes otherwise is deluded.