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Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by deols(f): 1:45pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
justwise: i doubt that a dialogue would entail that. They afterall were only preaching their ideals before the attacks on them,according to d above. Ima Ima:EOD. Ds is d best u can come up wv?? Cant be wasting my time wv u |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 1:45pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
Lagos_Boi: You are so intelligent , in your logic if Americans kill innocent babies and women, then what are we waiting for , we can do even better |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 1:47pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: wishful thinking because we have a brainless twerp for a president. the most spineless leader on the face of africa. shabbie: that is how to deal with unreasonable group of people. you meet fire with more firepower. evil vs evil.
it solved the problem under obsasanjo regime. mend came back when yaradua came into power. . . . . they were merely a university secret cult group from 1999 to 2007 when obasanjo was the boss! who dem be? you think obasanjo or any of the ex military dictators would condone boko haram? abacha would have nuked those states back to the ashes. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by zeeleso(f): 1:47pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
Reading through the first page of most posts on NL is quite exhausting. All the tribal and religious bashing. *sigh* kpolli:Prove it. Anyone who can prove that Boko Haram attacked before "operation flush" clashed with them during a funeral should do so |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by kpolli(m): 1:52pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
zeeleso: I said b4 the army not police attacked them. . . . |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 1:54pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
frosbel: it has nothing to do with BH but a lot to do with you seperating terrorists into Good (MEND, Mandela) and bad (BH, Al- Qaeda)
Good, we are getting somehwere. You are begining to see that there is no such thing as a good terrorist. So if the govt can negotiate with MEND, a known terrorist group, I see no reason why they cant to the same with BH
Not everyone in S. Arabia is a muslim but it is an Isamic state. If you smuggle drugs to S.Arabia, you are tried under sharia. If i believed in Shango or some other native god, can I ask the Nigerian government not to impose its western form of government on me? it is imposible as there as to be some form of consensus which is why people try to practise democracy. They have asked for sharia, The government should carry out a referendum and if people say No, then its goodbye sharia but if people say yes, then it is sharia. MEND fought and the oil producing states now get more money. why should they get more money, after all we are ''one'' Nigeria. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 1:58pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
kpolli: Did you watch the video? the people being murdered by the army in the video on page 1 do not look like BH members to me. Even if they were, when an army uses the same methods as a terrorist group, they become terrorists themselves. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 1:59pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: except that mend did not bomb mosques or put innocent lives at risk in their own time. they simply attacked government projects, damaged oil pipes and kidnapped foreign workers(0 casualty). boko haram have killed men, women and children that are innocent. there's a difference between the operation of both groups except of course you are a neophyte. . . . |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 2:01pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
coogar: So there are good and bad terrorists? All the MEND armed robbery casualties were soldiers abi? All the people that died in Abuja on independence day were soldiers abi. So soldiers guearing the countrys installatios are not innocent abi? |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by LagosBoi2(m): 2:05pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: lol, I laugh in Chinese |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by LagosBoi2(m): 2:07pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: If i were gay, I wud ask for your help, I love you. you nail them down !. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 2:09pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: there's no good/bad terrorists! however, the idealism of a terrorist group should be ethical. i can understand why mend was against the government. till now, i cannot understand what boko haram want from the government. what's there to dialogue with this bunch of murderers? mend were against the pollution of their environment plus the fact that government activities on their soil has rendered the people destitute. what is the federal government doing in the north that is irking boko haram? |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 2:18pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
coogar: I am afraid terrorist and ethical can not go together in the same sentence. Ethical terrorist is an oxymoron. If MEND was against pollution, why hasnt the pollution stopped? (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/22/nigerian-shell-oil-spill) the story in the link tells you about the worst oil spill in Nigeria in over a decade. MEND members were just out to get their own share of the National cake. BH say they want sharia (sounds reasonable to me) and do not want western education (completely dumb and they have the choice of not sending their wards to western schools). In a democracy, you can ask for anything. It just has to be debated, you cannot reject it outright, no matter how dumb it sounds. I am sure you have heard of people in the west asking for the most ridiculous of man made religions like Jedi to be accepted by the state. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 2:25pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: Nigeria is a secular state. Sharia was only a political tool created to destabliise Obasanjo' regime. Besdies Sharia is an intolerant, backward, stone age system of life. What !!! Cutting of hands, beheadings, public beatings etc. You must be out of your mind. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 2:30pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
nigeria need help |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by shabbie(m): 2:30pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
frosbel: And your own method of jungle justice for boko haram sounds better, Heh? Like he said, it is a democratic state , they have a right to demand for anything, it is the government that decides through dialogue if they can get it or not. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Wexelion(m): 2:31pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
I pity them small but what about the killings in jos and the church bombings? |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 2:33pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
shabbie: You call the arresting and trial of Boko Haram members and their sponsors and putting them into prison if found guilty Jungle Justice |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 2:36pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: stop making your own arguments, boko haram fan boy. i said the idealism must be ethical. . . who is a terrorist? any individual or group of individuals who use violence to achieve their political goals it is what they fight for that has to be reasonable not the group. . . . .bend your head around that! that boko haram wants to impose sharia on 160 million nigerians is dumb, unreasonable and disgustingly foolish! |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 2:36pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
frosbel: Just as backward as sentencing a man to death by hanging for stealing a car stereo or maybe a quicker way firing squad. in the US a supposedly tolerant, forward, mordern sysrtem of life, they even use letha injection and sometimes they fry you (electric chair) Our secular system of government that entrenches corruption where a ''microscopic few who have piloted the affairs of the country live in peasanted luxury and propensit solititude'' and the majority die in poverty. a system which orders its security forces to summarilly execute people. A system which wipes out whole towns (Odi & Zaki biam). The list goes on. I do not support sharia and I'll be honest and say I'll be the first to skip town if sharia was implemented where I lived but maybe these BH guys have had enough of secular governments failure and just wish to try something else out. Like I said earlier, there is no such thing as a dumb request in democracy. Nigeria is secular state but remember we passed a law banning homosexuality based on our christian and muslim moral values. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 2:40pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: nigeria is not a secular state - it's a multi-religious nation. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by shabbie(m): 2:42pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
frosbel: Yes. If that is what the constitution/law recommends; then that is justice! But you insisting it should be an eye-for-an-eye still, I like you Christ-like attitude mate. NOT! |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Wexelion(m): 2:46pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
coogar:full stop. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 2:46pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
coogar: You are a joker. The constitution says Nigeria is a secular state where people are free to practise their faiths within the confines of the law without fear of persecution. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by deols(f): 2:51pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
@norrisman, people like u are rare in Nigeria. They see d truth starring at their faces and choose to look elsewhere. if this is a democracy, like u said, pple shld b able to ask for what they want. I av said it again and again that pple like frosbel would do worse than boko haram if they av their way. They would enforce what they deem right and disallow what they term babaric by all means. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by uddukes: 2:59pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
This fallacious statement about America negotiating with taliban is being taken out of context. Look at the scenerio,a group of bare-faced terrorist inspired by osama bin laden and hosted by the taliban attacked America for unclear reasons(just like Boko haram).American mourn their dead went back to their drawing board and launched a co-ordinated security operation both a home and abroad including attacking afganistan(for which some innocent christains were slaughtered in kano - i am a witness).Homeland security was set -up and all that was involved in 9/11 attack are either dead or in guantanamo bay.As a result of this well planned security response of bringing to justice all terrorist action American has gone 10 good years without one single bomb by al-queda despite all attempt.This is how great countries are made.The discussion with taliban is just in the interest of democracy in Afganistan which the US promotes as a foreign policy.Negotiating with boko haram will prospone the evil day trust me |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 2:59pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
norrisman: there's a huge disconnect between what's written in your constitution and the reality on ground. i expect someone like you to know that. nigeria is not a secular state. . . .if it is, a certain religious group would not attempt to impose their religious beliefs on 160 million nigerians. can you see such happening in the united states, the united kingdom or the other true secular states? no chance! in nigeria, the secularity that is supposed to be unbiased and neutral has been severely compromised. there's no secularity in the political institutions and therefore it's unable to produce social capital among the citizenry. the secularism in nigeria is a liability instead of an asset that the constitution describes it to be. in a nutshell, we are a multi-religious state. anyone who believes otherwise is deluded. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 3:00pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
OH MY GOD! ARE SOME FOOL REALLY TRYING TO JUSTIFY BOKO HARAM FOR REAL ? IF SO THEN YOU ARE THE WORST HUMAN BEING ON EARTH, like it or not, terrorist group or whatever has come to stay as far as islam is concern in Nigeria. The option is to invite western countries army into this case but lets even take countries that has did the same and ask, did terrorism stop there ? hell no! instead the case worsen, i dont actually know if ppl see muslim as i see them? their mode of thinking is totally different from ordinary ppl. So Nigeria govt should never worry about dialogue! terrorism has come to stay! guys get it into your skulls my suggestion is that if actually they want arabian law/sharia or whatever to their states, then why not? give them what they want afterall they are the majority there and let there be peace for goodness sake! the christians there are minority, remember guys we are in Democracy and the majority got the decision so why the phuck will there own be different instead of ppl dying like cows. My fellow christians up there dont get mad at me, if actually that some americans or christians can live in arab countries and obey their law, why not northern Nigeria. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 3:03pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
OH MY GOD! ARE SOME FOOL REALLY TRYING TO JUSTIFY BOKO HARAM FOR REAL ? IF SO THEN YOU ARE THE WORST HUMAN BEING ON EARTH, like it or not, terrorist group or whatever has come to stay as far as islam is concern in Nigeria. The option is to invite western countries army into this case but lets even take countries that has did the same and ask, did terrorism stop there ? hell no! instead the case worsen, i dont actually know if ppl see muslim as i see them? their mode of thinking is totally different from ordinary ppl. So Nigeria govt should never worry about dialogue! terrorism has come to stay! guys get it into your skulls my suggestion is that if actually they want arabian law/sharia or whatever to their states, then why not? give them what they want afterall they are the majority there and let there be peace for goodness sake! the christians there are minority, remember guys we are in Democracy and the majority got the decision so why the phuck will there own be different instead of ppl dying like cows. My fellow christians up there dont get mad at me, if actually that some americans or christians can live in arab countries and obey their law, why not northern Nigeria. |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by coogar: 3:08pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
Toaskarity: |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by Nobody: 3:10pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
shabbie: You have thrown logic out of the window. Christ Like Unlike ISLAM , in Christianity there is seperation of Church and State. It is the state's duty to punish wrong doers , not mine. If the state does not perform it's duties efficiently , then we move into a stage of societal anarchy. So , again, I say, the Boko Haram members who have blood stained hands, must be captured by the security apparatus of the state, tried and jailed if found guilty. Why is this simple logic so difficult for you to grasp. See what Sharia has done to your brain |
Re: The Boko Haram Story-one You May Not Have Heard Of by norrisman: 3:11pm On Jan 27, 2012 |
coogar: This I agree with you 100%. We are secular by mouth alone. If laws like the one banning homosexuality are passed based on religious sentiments. I see no reason why some people can not ask to be governed by religious laws. |
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