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Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by justwise(m): 6:34pm On Feb 02, 2012
Claus:

It was not sanctions that caused Zimbabwe to stop becoming the food basket of south & central Africa. It was the random, emotionally driven and disorganised seizure and transfer of productive farms to unqualified Zanu-PF supporting "farmers" who chopped down the trees for firewood, sold and ate the livestock without thoughts of replenishment and generally left the farms run down.

Let us not refer to some generic sanctions as being the cause of Zimbabwe's downward spiral. Please list the sanctions on here for everyone to see and draw their own conclusions.

A ++++++++
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by kizito96(m): 6:55pm On Feb 02, 2012
Let him live the throne and vacate and call for election
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Youhesh(m): 6:57pm On Feb 02, 2012
To imagine someone who calls himself a leader will not support the actions of NATO in Libya is unimaginable. Nato took decisive steps(one that cannot be taken by the so-called African leaders) to bring down the oppressive regime of Ghaddafi. African leaders will have prefered the world stays back and watch as civilians are slaughtered like Assad is doing in Syria. Its obvious that Mugabe is only afraid that he might b next, but he shouldnt worry, they have no interest in him. SA that is the most developed in Africa, is so, because in of the presence and acceptance of the whites who live there. If you pursue the west, who will replace them? The Chinese, who most African leaders are already in bed with? The Chinese can not even be taking as models of freedom and civility. We should stop blaming our woes on the west, as these woes were and are caused by the greed, wickedness and self-centeredness of our leaders and Africans as a whole. Only ignorant people will listen to the rantings of Mugabe.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by jamace(m): 7:21pm On Feb 02, 2012
Anybody taking Mugabe seriously need to see a doctor quick. He should unite Zimbabwe first before calling for African unity.
Tell them o.

Mugabe has been President of Zimbabwe for about 32 years, yet no development and he is talking trash, and some persons here are hailing him. Mugabe is a complete failure and not different from the non-performing presidents we have in Africa. Mugabe should realise that he can not prove any point by word of mouth. We want to see his actions in the form of infrastructural and human development in his country to accept his words. If I may say, Mugabe should not be compared to Gadaffi at all. Gadaffi was exceptional in providing facilities for his people. The level of economic and welfare for the people of Libya as provided by Gadaffi was commendable. Mugabe is purely stubborn and has nothing to offer to his people despite being in power for 32 years. I would have preferred the West dealt with him than Gadaffi.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Kenyanstar: 7:26pm On Feb 02, 2012
Most of this regime changes have come with worse leadership than its predicesors. A new breed of dictators are causing havoc. One such incident is charles tailor who benefited from an american backed coup de tat. He ended up massacering thousands. This western puppet president r there to protect the west's interests. Other puppets include afgahnistans karzai, iraq's leaders' & a bunch of other quasi ''democratic'' countries. Countries that defy the west are now flourishing. Angola, north sudan.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by xcolanto(m): 7:54pm On Feb 02, 2012
The rate at which NLers divert from the article and topic at hand is quite shameful. The subject of the article reads "Mugabe at the African union: Let`s stand up to the west". Yet most people are here blabbing about the local politics in Zimbabwe and farmlands! angry if anyone does not have anything to say relating to the content and the subject of the thread why not read and pass by than attack the personality of Mugabe rather than discuss the message his trying to pass across. undecided In my own opinion Africans and the A.U should find ways to handle their affairs rather than having the western countries pork-nosing in the affairs of the African continent.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by occam(m): 8:04pm On Feb 02, 2012
mickey jag:

The sun has set on the West.

You see, Western economies have basically become a bunch of Las Vegas casino, smoke-and-mirror type economies whose creditors want their money back. You cannot sustain a lie forever. Already, the anarchists are out in force in central Madrid and Athens. Ditto Ireland, Iceland, Italy and Portugal. Britain and the US are not far behind.

So then, after their “economies” are gone, what will they have been left with? Granted, Africans will still be dirt poor, but if things get bad, we just go back to our villages and grow tomatoes,  I would not be surprised to see Africa's recent past become Europe's future. What an irony of history if that happens.

Their is a peculiar system in this world that defines any lazy bum White person living in Africa as an “expatriate”, while a hard working African medical doctor in America, a Green Card holder and an Ivy League graduate, will forever be seen as an illegal immigrant, a sponger and a coon, just an evolved monkey. Rest assured though, that system can’t last very long.


The bigger picture to the Africans in the Diaspora; be wise……. Already, the evil messages of fascist politicians like Geert Wilders, Pauline Hanson, the BNP, and the Vlaam Bloek, et al, are once again resonating with Westerners. Barrack Obama was a onetime bleep on the radar-even if he miraculously gets a second term, which I doubt he will.  Better get your fourty acres and a mule before the next Pogrom, genocide and mass-murdering dictatorship finds you unprepared. After all, the last one happened only 60 years ago, and 6 million Jews were slaughtered……….be wise………


Keep on dreaming! You believe America & European economies will disappear? really? As I type this a 25yr old American is about to launch a IPO for his company set  to net him $5 billion. What does he produce? he provides a communication platform that allows 800 million people to exchange ideas and thoughts. I'm sure you're using this service or know someone who does.

Why I'm bringing  this up? to highlight the disparities in western economies vs African economies. They are at the innovative and knowledge stage of economic development while we (Africans) struggle to feed & cloth ourselves. So do we blame the West for present morass and keep playing the victim. NO! Famine is no a constant threat that we can longer feed ourselves. So I'm not sure which village we'll run to as you said

Despot like Magaba seduce Africans with vain rhetoric like "standing up to the west" without any vision and plan to develop our economies. Asian countries have long figured things out and care less about standing up to the west.  

Our leader continue to bend forward and be hammered from behind by the West (excuse my crude analogy). A myopic and rudderless lot that simply want to enrich themselves and their own families. Look at the collection of despots at the AU summit and point to a single one that inspires you. For instance the younger ones like Gambia's Yahya Jammeh and Chad's President Idriss Deby are also on the same path as the older ones: race to the bottom

Let's stop listening to this nonsense and believing in the western conspiracy. The west is no longer the cause of our problems: its us and our leaders.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Claus(m): 8:11pm On Feb 02, 2012
xcolanto:

The rate at which NLers divert from the article and topic at hand is quite shameful. The subject of the article reads "Mugabe at the African union: Let`s stand up to the west". Yet most people are here blabbing about the local politics in Zimbabwe and farmlands! angry if anyone does not have anything to say relating to the content and the subject of the thread why not read and pass by than attack the personality of Mugabe rather than discuss the message his trying to pass across.  undecided In my own opinion Africans and the A.U should find ways to handle their affairs rather than having the western countries pork-nosing in the affairs of the African continent.

Lol! In the process of accusing NLers of diversion, you spend 3 lines on the so called diversion and 1 line on the actual topic.

Mugabe, the man behind the words, is part and parcel of the discussion. If he feels free to share how Africans should stand up to the West, we should also be free to explore how his methods have worked out for his own country.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by dbride: 8:36pm On Feb 02, 2012
Why do we always blame the west for our mistakes. We sure do have some low class complex. The west is also responsible for Mugábe's wickdness to his own people. Mugabe should shut up and go heal his land first b4 trying to help africa. He single handedly ruined Zim and now he has the guts to advise africa. That man is a disgrace to africa; we want to gang up to fight the west yet we keep our loot with them.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by omoghana22: 9:10pm On Feb 02, 2012
a true Pan African, but why now? was Mogabe not there at the las AU meeting before the NTC took over Libya? well i think you have said it all, but be more careful because you could be their next target since you have revealed their secrete toward Africa.

Indeed our leaders are cowards. The OAU Mission was not form just to be having meetings. It was for African to unite and defends their internal affairs. I thank God , president Mugabe has displayed the real picture. It is not too late because the best time we failed was yesterday, the best time to stand is now. To me, you are the last man standing. African are behind you, our ancestors are behind you, go ahead and let make a changes.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by texazzpete(m): 9:30pm On Feb 02, 2012
xcolanto:

The rate at which NLers divert from the article and topic at hand is quite shameful. The subject of the article reads "Mugabe at the African union: Let`s stand up to the west". Yet most people are here blabbing about the local politics in Zimbabwe and farmlands! angry if anyone does not have anything to say relating to the content and the subject of the thread why not read and pass by than attack the personality of Mugabe rather than discuss the message his trying to pass across. undecided In my own opinion Africans and the A.U should find ways to handle their affairs rather than having the western countries pork-nosing in the affairs of the African continent.

Sorry, but the character of the messenger is very essential.
Would you let the local p.r.ostitute in your area teach your kids Bible Study?
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by texazzpete(m): 9:37pm On Feb 02, 2012
Kenyanstar:

Its now clear that most of the nigerian citizenry is suffering from an inferiority complex. The last time i checked egypt, zimbabwe, iraq & libya were fully flegded properous nations until the western countries interefered. The case of iraq, which was among the most developed country in the arab peninsula is now in ruins. Libya which was the richest & most socially habitable african country is now on the edge of a civil war. Zimbabwe was considered the food basket of south & central africa but due sanctions it has left it in absolute destitution. This countries were distabilised by western powers leaving them in ruins. Show me a single african country that has immensley benefited from america economically.

I wonder why you people reach for the example of Libya when you want to spout all these senseless theories. Why don't you mention Tunisia too? Before Egypt an Libya, there was Tunisia. We saw people power sweep their corrupt leaders from power. We saw the same thing in Egypt where brave citizens stood up to armed attacks and the elements to cast Mubarak out. How dare you trivialize the actions of these Egyptians who occupied Tahrir square as 'western intervention'?

The sanctions placed on Zimbabwe were sanctions targeting the corrupt and malevolent elements of the ruling ZANU-PF. Did any sanctions prevent Zimbabwe from purchasing needed farm equipment and fertilizer?

The blood of thousands of Zimbabweans is on Mugabe's hands. There are at least 3-4 Universities of Agriculture in Zimbabwe. Why did Mugabe not turn over the farms to people well trained in modern mechanized farming instead of handing over farmlands to his illiterate ZANU-PF veterans?

I challenge you too list the sanctions here for us to see.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by hamsky: 10:04pm On Feb 02, 2012
Watch out mugabe you might be the next in america's list
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by AjanleKoko: 10:49pm On Feb 02, 2012
hamsky:

Watch out mugabe you might be the next in america's list

For wetin?
The dude has no oil. He's just another Negro headcase.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Nobody: 11:49pm On Feb 02, 2012
Maybe they will stand up to the west if they were not being led by an 88 years old man who should have retired 20 years ago.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Nobody: 12:24am On Feb 03, 2012
If I remember correctly,the West did not start the uprisings in Libya, Egypt, etc. It was the people. Never forget that!

The West came WHEN AFRICAN LEADERS WERE TOO DUMB TO DO ANYTHING. They are talking about western invasion. What did the same Mugabe do during that period? Na so toothless bulldogs.

For those who don't know, the West doesn't have eyes on Africa but on the BRIC nations (Brazil, India, Russia, China).Africans have not done anything tangible to show that they are a force to reckon with. Look at China, they have done so well that they do not even need the West. Look at Africa, we still need the West. When we do not have enough companies that will harness/drill our oil, why won't the west come.

They know we're still dependent on them that's why they're not worried. Their real worry is China and then maybe the rest of them.

Even with talks of patriotism,the only reason Nigerians unified to occupy is because fuel subsidy issue affected them. If not, it would have been business as usual. Africans are rarely patriotic. They only speak out when their interests are threatened. That is what I have observed over the years.

That said, until we have great leaders who are ready to SERVE and until we have citizens who are genuinely patriotic and ready to defend their honor, then these leaders will just be toothless bulldogs
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by BlackBaron: 1:03am On Feb 03, 2012
Still funny people seem to idolise tyrants. Gaddafi was instrumental in the Sierra Leonean/Liberian civil war. Mugabe, once a hero has clearly lost the plot.

True story about standing up to the west but then again its a ploy to garner support to prevent any form interference say there be an uprising in his home country.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by cfours: 1:17am On Feb 03, 2012
what a clown he is.
if he keeps running his mouth, he might soon leave the way of Gaddafi.
Zimbabwe will be better for it!
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by sniperwolf(m): 1:17am On Feb 03, 2012
And we have serious unrest in Zimbabwe
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by oiseworld: 1:34am On Feb 03, 2012
fear,fear African leaders, what are we resisting the west form? From buying the oil u can't drink, or buying the diamonds, gold and resources you don't used.

all i see here is fear from a confused and threatened african leader. The uprising in northern Africa were caused by d people themselves not the west and he wants to resist, has he asked himself how far he can go with out the west. can't believe he got a standing aviation from his fellow poor, greedy and confused African leaders.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by ideylaff: 3:32am On Feb 03, 2012
Mugabe may be a tyrant, but he does make a point.
African leaders need to stand up for their countries, and for their people. Firstly for their countries, mind you. Unfortunately Mugabe is not doing that, as far as Zimbabwe is concerned. He's supporting Ghadaffi, but not guaranteeing a better life for his own people. That's why it is always easy to turn Africans against their leaders.

LOL,  so sad how we listen to Mugabe and jump up as if the messaih is here. Mugabe and all the African Leaders should bring back home all the filtered away wealth of their various countries lying in foreign land before they start to act as if they are some kind of heroes

Talk is cheap. When they fall ill / just cought more than once they run abroad, when their kids want education, western world is ok, when they need aid which is as a result of their bad governance they run to the west. But when they have their AU (half of the leaders sleeping/snoring) meetings they come up with trash like this.

Show me any Western Goverment that has forced any African Leader to steal money and tell them to bring it over to the west

We make me laugh and cry most times

MUGABE Please stp bn an hypocrite. U are just a joke.

Gusy please dont buy into this cheap press attention bull not worth it
If Mugabe coughs more than 5 times 2moro he will be on the next plane to France,

Talk is cheap. Only failures like African Leaders Like Mugabe himself will give a Standintg Ovation to a shameless senile octogenarian oppressing his very own people
since God knows how long

Wish they could all be blown away to their Graves in that conference hall they sat their pot bellies in listening to garbage from a mad man like Mugabe

My Cats wld not even listen to Mugabe speak, One of the Biggest jokes since only GOD knows when claiming to be a leader. Needs to be in a detention centre

Africas Problems are the Leaders not the west. If you keep your house tidy no one will tell you what to do inside the place. FACT

Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Upright750: 3:46am On Feb 03, 2012
Some people said he spoke their mind and so one when you know very well how wicked our most African leaders is. If that bastard Gaddafi step down on early time all this couldn't have happened same. look at Senegalese president that want to go for 3rd team and you are here talking about greedy mogugbe speaking your mind. do you know how many innocent Nigerians and other citizens in prison in Libya and Zimbabwe. And same you guys will come bach here to say African leaders are corrupt but now they have spoken your mind. look travel out to see that African problem is our leader. same the so called leaders always asking for investors from west to come. let me tell you guys one important thing. our resources are raw material and if you have only raw material without finish material what will you do if those that always buy your raw material said they dont want to buy them again. if so let our leather try and make something out from out resources. NA SAME PEOPLE.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Nobody: 3:48am On Feb 03, 2012
Reading some of the replies on this thread , I could not help wondering if some of those that replied are not racist whites instead of black Africans.

For any black African who does not see any merit in what Mugabe says and what he stands for, I would ask you to immediately pause and have a good look at yourself.

We need as Africans to gain ability for independent thoughts and views.

Many of us would need to stop adopting the Western perspective on all international affairs and adopt a stance or position best on our own best interests as Africans.

First off, start to question what ever you see on Western media about Africa and Africans.

In my opinion what makes Mugabe the greatest living African alive is that he had stood up to western bullies in much the same way as great African leaders Thomas Sankara,  Patrice lumumba and our own Abacha in the past  have done.

They came to enslave ivory coast, we said nothing because we were not Ivorians, they came for Libya and we said nothing because we were not Libyans.
When they come for us, would there be anybody left to speak up for us?

Africans think wisely, we need to unite abeg!
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Nobody: 4:35am On Feb 03, 2012
Stand Up To West sounds like challenge the authority of the West to me! Whichever African country that share such idea with Mugabe is only isolating its relationship with the world. The world is not revolving around the West yet it cannot do without the West - that's the intrinsic fact!
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by texazzpete(m): 7:07am On Feb 03, 2012
GenBuhari:

Reading some of the replies on this thread , I could not help wondering if some of those that replied are not racist whites instead of black Africans.

For any black African who does not see any merit in what Mugabe says and what he stands for, I would ask you to immediately pause and have a good look at yourself.

We need as Africans to gain ability for independent thoughts and views.

Many of us would need to stop adopting the Western perspective on all international affairs and adopt a stance or position best on our own best interests as Africans.

First off, start to question what ever you see on Western media about Africa and Africans.

In my opinion what makes Mugabe the greatest living African alive is that he had stood up to western bullies in much the same way as great African leaders Thomas Sankara,  Patrice lumumba and our own Abacha in the past  have done.

They came to enslave ivory coast, we said nothing because we were not Ivorians, they came for Libya and we said nothing because we were not Libyans.
When they come for us, would there be anybody left to speak up for us?

Africans think wisely, we need to unite abeg!

So Mugabe is the 'greatest living African alive' eh? Even greater than the likes of Nelson Mandela? Even when he plunged his once prosperous nation into famine, inflation and extreme poverty?

You are a brainless dolt! Abeg remove that 'Buhari' from your username lest people begin to think less of the General because of your imbecilic antics.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by pendo89(f): 7:11am On Feb 03, 2012
Interesting. I wonder if we have any African heroes or puppets.
Lets just say that Mugabe is a poor example of a leader then, because he doesn't walk the talk? from the comments here.
If his words were uttered by another worthy leader (God knows who) we would have backed and supported him.
But its Mugabe!  angry
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by mickeyjag(m): 9:06am On Feb 03, 2012
occam:

Keep on dreaming! You believe America & European economies will disappear? really? As I type this a 25yr old American is about to launch a IPO for his company set  to net him $5 billion. What does he produce? he provides a communication platform that allows 800 million people to exchange ideas and thoughts. I'm sure you're using this service or know someone who does.

Why I'm bringing  this up? to highlight the disparities in western economies vs African economies. They are at the innovative and knowledge stage of economic development while we (Africans) struggle to feed & cloth ourselves. So do we blame the West for present morass and keep playing the victim. NO! Famine is no a constant threat that we can longer feed ourselves. So I'm not sure which village we'll run to as you said

Despot like Magaba seduce Africans with vain rhetoric like "standing up to the west" without any vision and plan to develop our economies. Asian countries have long figured things out and care less about standing up to the west.  

Our leader continue to bend forward and be hammered from behind by the West (excuse my crude analogy). A myopic and rudderless lot that simply want to enrich themselves and their own families. Look at the collection of despots at the AU summit and point to a single one that inspires you. For instance the younger ones like Gambia's Yahya Jammeh and Chad's President Idriss Deby are also on the same path as the older ones: race to the bottom

Let's stop listening to this nonsense and believing in the western conspiracy. The west is no longer the cause of our problems: its us and our leaders.  



Hahahahahahah! I hope you are having a laugh, mate.

So, Facebook is what will save the West, eh? Facebook has 3,000 employees. There are 50 million Americans who are unemployed as we speak. Another 45 million have no access to healthcare. "Tent Cities" a.k.a slums are increasing by the day http://www.businessinsider.com/lakewood-new-jersey-homeless-tent-city-2011-9#the-living-room-19

The Portuguese are emigrating to Angola and Mozambique in droves to escape unemployment. Greek parents are abandoning their children in the streets because they cannot feed them. A humiliated  European Union has gone cap-in-hand to China begging for money to bailout their collapsed economies. Brazil's economy has surpassed the UK's and is now the sixth largest in the world. etc etc.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2011/dec/26/brazil-overtakes-uk-economy
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-24002772-bailout-fund-boosted-to-one-trillion-euro-as-leaders-seal-eu-crisis-deal.do
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2085163/Children-dumped-streets-Greek-parents-afford-them.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-14716410
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/dec/21/europe-migrants-crisis-irish-portuguese


The witless triumphalism that shaped Western attitudes over 500 years of history may not last much longer. We are already living through the twilight of Western predominance.

The West simply cannot afford the standard of living that is currently enjoying because there’s nothing they produce that the world wants in sufficient quantities that will enable them to pay for the high standard of living and benefits / welfare for asylum seekers such as yourself and their own unemployed.

In addition,they are bankrupt and living off of a huge mountain of debt.


Now with collapsing economies, there are no colonies or slaves to exploit any more. China manufacturers everything. The Banking and finance sectors have collapsed. It cannot last much longer. Sooner or later civil unrest is coming to the West.

I would get out of there if I were you.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Claus(m): 9:18am On Feb 03, 2012
GenBuhari:

Reading some of the replies on this thread , I could not help wondering if some of those that replied are not racist whites instead of black Africans.

For any black African who does not see any merit in what Mugabe says and what he stands for, I would ask you to immediately pause and have a good look at yourself.

We need as Africans to gain ability for independent thoughts and views.

Many of us would need to stop adopting the Western perspective on all international affairs and adopt a stance or position best on our own best interests as Africans.

First off, start to question what ever you see on Western media about Africa and Africans.

In my opinion what makes Mugabe the greatest living African alive is that he had stood up to western bullies in much the same way as great African leaders Thomas Sankara,  Patrice lumumba and our own Abacha in the past  have done.

They came to enslave ivory coast, we said nothing because we were not Ivorians, they came for Libya and we said nothing because we were not Libyans.
When they come for us, would there be anybody left to speak up for us?

Africans think wisely, we need to unite abeg!

There may be some merit in what Mugabe has said, but when a man like that starts speaking about his ideas, you need to go back to his country to understand how those ideas have worked out for his people.

Of the African leaders you mentioned, only 2 of them (Lumumba and Sankara) stood up to the West IN SUPPORT OF THEIR PEOPLE. Abacha and Mugabe stood up to the West for their own selfish reasons. Their moves did not benefit their people at all. Lumumba and Sankara continue to be idolised by their people while Abacha and Mugabe continue to be hated by their people.

If standing up to the West is your only criterion for greatness, then Idi Amin should be your greatest non-living African!
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by igbo2011(m): 9:27am On Feb 03, 2012
@mickey Jag
Don;t you livei n New Zealand so should you leave? Also France does have a colony right now called the Francophone countries in Africa. They control their econoimes and make a lot o money from them. That is why French had to get Gbagbo out. https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-860098.0.html

But you are right about the west they want a high standard of living which cannot be done forever. There needs to be production and consumption not just consumption. They are going to have austerity measures pretty soon to save money. This welfare state can't last too long. But once the welfare state stops then crime will rise becaue people are too dependant. But America spends too much money on putting people in jail. Most people in jail are there for non violent drug crimes. The prison system is costing America a lot of money. But America loves arresting choc "black" men sad

Factories are leaving Europe and America because it is too expensive. So they go to Asia and Mexico.But all these factories cause major pollution such as in Beijing China. People can barely loive there with all the pollution. So China wants to move some factories to even Africa.

Africa needs to use comparative advantages for what it has now. They should use all the land and train great farmers and get tractors to export alot of food. Also we need to process food to make it to a finished good. We need to make finished goods.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by igbo2011(m): 9:29am On Feb 03, 2012
Claus:

There may be some merit in what Mugabe has said, but when a man like that starts speaking about his ideas, you need to go back to his country to understand how those ideas have worked out for his people.

Of the African leaders you mentioned, only 2 of them (Lumumba and Sankara) stood up to the West IN SUPPORT OF THEIR PEOPLE. Abacha and Mugabe stood up to the West for their own selfish reasons. Their moves did not benefit their people at all. Lumumba and Sankara continue to be idolised by their people while Abacha and Mugabe continue to be hated by their people.

If standing up to the West is your only criterion for greatness, then Idi Amin should be your greatest non-living African!
Mugabe isn't perfect but those sanctions hurt him. Ghaddaffi ws great too. Murtala was great as well. Seems like all the great African leaders die or get overthrown for some reason, hmmm.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by zolzlolz(f): 2:49pm On Feb 03, 2012
People please man, if Mugabe wants to crusade against the west 24/7, he must become an activist, otherwise he should focus on running Zimbabwe and serving its citizens.
Re: Mugabe At African Union: Let’s Stand Up To West by Nobody: 3:33pm On Feb 03, 2012
@ texazzpete,

Mugabe is for me the greatest living African, yes even greater than Nelson Mandela.

Because he is man enough to refuse to be dictated to by the white man / the West and has managed to remain in power despite their efforts.

Abacha was also a great leader as is General Buhari both of whom also defied the west, but paid the price, unfortunately Abacha paid with his life.

I repeat:

form your own opinions do not just adopt the whatever opinion the West wants you to adopt.

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