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2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 4:50pm On Feb 09, 2012
I still find it difficult to understand why the FG has continously given us a budget that is more interested in maintaining and keeping civil servants happy than being development oriented. Considering that the FG and our state govts run similar structure, I still wonder why the states are able to devote a very high percentage of their budget (e.g Rivers and Imo) to capital expenditure which the FG is seeing as being "impossible".

STATES        TOTAL BUDGET          % for CAPITAL EXP   % for RECURRENT EXP

ABIA                      122,390,433,920             53.4                          46.6
ADAMAWA        65,523,000,000             65.0                          35.0
AKWA IBOM      397,141,000,000             33.6                          66.4
ANAMBRA               67,900,000,000             47.5                          52.5
BAUCHI             132,547,202,809             53.2                          46.8
BAYELSA             228,000,000,000             57.0                          43.0
BENUE             105,500,000,000             45.9                          54.1
BORNO             130,600,000,000             66.5                          33.5
CROSS RIVER        144,626,771,453             58.5                          41.5
DELTA             383,400,000,000             56.0                          44.0
EBONYI               86,986,068,160             38.8                          61.2
EDO                     148,870,000,000             57.0                          43.0
EKITI               98,000,000,000             54.1                          45.9
ENUGU               74,990,000,000             40.9                          59.1
GOMBE               93,385,150,000             58.9                          41.1
IMO                     174,316,400,000             73.0                          27.0
JIGAWA             104,400,000,000             51.4                          48.6
KADUNA             154,330,000,000             55.1                          44.9
KANO             210,379,331,115             66.0                          34.0
KASTINA             118,770,000,000             67.1                          32.9
KEBBI
KOGI             114,200,000,000             45.8                          54.2
KWARA               91,700,000,000             47.8                          52.2
LAGOS             491,827,000,000             52.5                          47.5
NASARAWA      97,566,011,955             56.6                          43.4
NIGER              90,300,000,000             53.0                          47.0
OGUN            187,900,000,000             53.0                          47.0
ONDO            150,000,000,000             57.0                          43.0
OSUN            146,000,000,000             52.1                          47.9
OYO                    160,600,000,000             54.7                          45.3
PLATEAU            112,042,837,199             60.4                          39.6
RIVERS            427,000,000,000             73.6                          26.4
SOKOTO            100,800,000,000             66.4                          33.6
TARABA              73,900,000,000             51.8                          48.2
YOLA              98,100,000,000             62.4                          37.6
ZAMFARA            120,810,192,000             65.0                          35.0
FEDERAL GOVT 4,749,101,000,000 28 72
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by anonimi: 5:07pm On Feb 09, 2012
Thanks for this analysis.
Any chance you could get Lagos budget since 1978 even without breakdown to capital vs recurrent?
That would be extra nice of you.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 5:07pm On Feb 09, 2012
Correction
Akwa Ibom gave 83.8% and 16.7% to capital and recurrent expenditures respectively thereby making it the most development oriented Governor in Nigeria by my own accessment.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 5:09pm On Feb 09, 2012
anonimi:

Thanks for this analysis.
Any chance you could get Lagos budget since 1978 even without breakdown to capital vs recurrent?
That would be extra nice of you.

Its possible, its just a matter of time.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by Nobody: 5:12pm On Feb 09, 2012
The recurrent expenditure of the fedral government is bigger than those of SG`s because of the adninistrative scope of the state governments are very small.

Ebonyi state should be scrapped!
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by Nobody: 5:16pm On Feb 09, 2012
Whats your source btw and which state in Nigeria is called yola?
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 5:24pm On Feb 09, 2012
J12:

Whats your source btw and which state in Nigeria is called yola?

The beauty of the internet age is the ability to verify facts and take correction where need arises. My source is the our news publications, you can correct me if u find any one wrong, the state u highlighted is Yobe and not Yola. 10ks!
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by profosahon: 5:52pm On Feb 09, 2012
The only solution to this lop-sided expenditure is a return to true federalism.Let the states control whatever resources is in their domain and let the federal government impose appropriate taxes on income from such resources to be used for his own upkeep.Let states handle their own local secuity with overall security responsibility going to the Federal Government (FB1/NYPD model).

Let state control ports,mines and oil well in their area and remit appropriate taxes to the Federal Government.

Not all State Government needs several Ministries and Agency.

This would encourage states to devleop their capacity in agriculture,mineral resources and free the federal government to guarantee security and steer own foreign policy.

The staffs of these humoguous ministries and agencies should be drafted to their respective state in the interim.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by merengue: 6:15pm On Feb 09, 2012
Nice one. Seems GEJ and Elechi are brothers in stupidity.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by hustla242: 6:19pm On Feb 09, 2012
Federalism won't work simply because Nigerians don't know the meaning of fiscal discipline, you will have the federal government  printing money to bail bankrupt states out to prevent the economy from collapsing.

On a more serious note, a joker on this forum called "sagamit" argued with me that there was a massive gap between state capital and recurrent expenditure as seen at the federal level which is a blatant lie obviously. This is proof that we need to go back to issuing some or all of the allocation in exchangeable dollar certificates to tiers of government.

This will seriously tackle inflation- a lot of contractors executing the capital projects are foreigners and would accept these dollar certificates as they did in the past. Sanusi, where are you
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by WarHorse1(m): 6:21pm On Feb 09, 2012
See same data on Excel spreadsheet - Graphic Presentation. download to view

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Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by Beaf: 6:36pm On Feb 09, 2012
OP, you might have a misunderstanding about how a federal system should work. FG should just be an enabler and not have to be feeding them; its like comparing apples and oranges. The states and LG's should be the primary drivers of development who should really be funding the FG. Whilst not encouraging the wastefullness of the Nigerian system, the FG's capital expenditure should never be as much as the states or LG's, otherwise it means the governors and LG bosses are doing fuckall (which they are known for anyway).

It is hightime we stopped pointing fingers at the LG for lack of development, we are now running a democracy and no longer under central military authority. Let us begin to ask deep questions about the role of our states and LG's and what part the governors and chairmen have to play. The development of our states and LG's have remained stagnant, because we do not understand the federal structure, so we continue to elect fools and thieves, and to roll over and get phucked. States and LG's have major roles to play in the delivery of development, let us begin to ask deep and serious questions about why they are almost all a failure.

Take the US for example, you don't hear that Obama is going around given money to the US states or that the US federal govt is building industries etc; those things are left for states and municipalities (LG's) to deliver instead. The US federal govt only delivers policy, standards, judiciary and defense; it is the states that deliver wealth and push development.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by profosahon: 6:52pm On Feb 09, 2012
@hustla242 I understand your fears about true federalism and fiscal discipline.However when States are made to harness their natural resources e.g mineral resources and pay appropriate taxes to Federal Government,It would encourage the FG to impose very good accounting and audit procedures on the different states in order for the FG to get a fair share of their taxes.ie to say the FG would take more interest in how states derive and make use of their revenue.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by Sinju: 7:18pm On Feb 09, 2012
A more useful data will be to look at what the State and Federal governments actually spend on capital and recurrent expenditures at the end of each fiscal year.

To budget is one thing, To stick to the budget is another thing
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by anonimi: 7:48pm On Feb 09, 2012
Sinju:

A more useful data will be to look at what the State and Federal governments actually spend on capital and recurrent expenditures at the end of each fiscal year.

To budget is one thing, To stick to the budget is another thing

One of my initial thoughts also.
But the OP's work is a good start at some form of meaningful comparison. It would be interesting to see how much is voted for the legislatures and governor's office in each of these states so we can also compare with the profligacy at the FG level.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by anonimi: 7:52pm On Feb 09, 2012
War Horse:

See same data on Excel spreadsheet - Graphic Presentation. download to view

Thanks War Horse for your user-friendly table. I have saved it for future reference.
May I suggest that you express each state/FG's total in =N= billion, million or '000 to even make your table look more sexy. wink
Cheers.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by anonimi: 7:54pm On Feb 09, 2012
PHIPEX:

Its possible, its just a matter of time.

Can I take this as a promise?
I will definitely be looking forward to such trend analysis sometime in the near future.

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Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by Proxytalk: 7:59pm On Feb 09, 2012
Is Anabra budget 67B? This is ridiculous, peter Obi is not realistic can he play conservatism in the state budget or could other states inflating figures? how much is he generating from parks and markets alone? this Obis last tenure needs to be investgated who is he saving money for? or he want to maintain excess crude acc
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by Reference(m): 8:17pm On Feb 09, 2012
Beaf:

OP, you might have a misunderstanding about how a federal system should work. FG should just be an enabler and not have to be feeding them; its like comparing apples and oranges. The states and LG's should be the primary drivers of development who should really be funding the FG. Whilst not encouraging the wastefullness of the Nigerian system, the FG's capital expenditure should never be as much as the states or LG's, otherwise it means the governors and LG bosses are doing fuckall (which they are known for anyway).

It is hightime we stopped pointing fingers at the LG for lack of development, we are now running a democracy and no longer under central military authority. Let us begin to ask deep questions about the role of our states and LG's and what part the governors and chairmen have to play. The development of our states and LG's have remained stagnant, because we do not understand the federal structure, so we continue to elect fools and thieves, and to roll over and get phucked. States and LG's have major roles to play in the delivery of development, let us begin to ask deep and serious questions about why they are almost all a failure.

Take the US for example, you don't hear that Obama is going around given money to the US states or that the US federal govt is building industries etc; those things are left for states and municipalities (LG's) to deliver instead. The US federal govt only delivers policy, standards, judiciary and defense; it is the states that deliver wealth and push development.

Well said. Some states and most local goverments run a zero sum account. Start at beginning of month with X naira and end the month with X-X=0 then take their begging bowls back to Abuja for a refill. Even States that generate revenues from taxes and levies have practically nothing they can boast of in terms of real investment. The focus on revenue derived from mineral resources particularly oil receives far too much attention. Mineral resources are just one out of millions of investment ideas out there State and Local Government can actively invest in. I look forward to the time when a particular state or local government will take its allocation and invest say 20% to 30% continuously for a period of say ten years to generate real income streams that will make allocations obsolete. It is good to have 50 to 60% of your revenue expended on infrastructure but this does not bring direct income and zero sum spending is plain financially dangerous thoughtless of being humiliating and retrogressive. A man who earns a salary and all he spends money on is food, cars and houses without investment to supplement and ultimately replace his income is a ticking financial disaster.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by mojounited(m): 8:22pm On Feb 09, 2012
@OP I think your figures, especially in the case of Akwa Ibom, are incorrect. Peruse the article below
"For Akwa Ibom State where Godswill Akpabio is the governor, the focus of the budget of N397.141 billion which he tagged: “Budget of industrilisation” is the transformation of the state. Unlike other states, Akpabio has allocated over 70 percent of the budget to capital projects.

A breakdown of the budget shows that N66.244 billion and N330.897 billion are for recurrent and capital expenditure, respectively, while projected revenue is N263.777 billion. . ."
http://www.newswatchngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3855&Itemid=32
Again - http://www..com/ng/states-and-lgda-specific-talks/11880-akwa-ibom-state-budgets-n397-1bn-for-2012-a.html
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 8:26pm On Feb 09, 2012
mojounited:

@OP I think your figures, especially in the case of Akwa Ibom, are incorrect. Peruse the article below http://www.newswatchngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3855&Itemid=32


I noticed it after posting, check out my second comment below

PHIPEX:

Correction
Akwa Ibom gave 83.8% and 16.7% to capital and recurrent expenditures respectively thereby making it the most development oriented Governor in Nigeria by my own accessment.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by mojounited(m): 8:57pm On Feb 09, 2012
^Acknowledged.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by ektbear: 8:58pm On Feb 09, 2012
Where did you get these #s from?
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 9:02pm On Feb 09, 2012
ekt_bear:

Where did you get these #s from?

I answered this question earlier

PHIPEX:

The beauty of the internet age is the ability to verify facts and take correction where need arises. My source is the our news publications, you can correct me if u find any one wrong, the state u highlighted is Yobe and not Yola. 10ks!
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by ektbear: 9:03pm On Feb 09, 2012
Got it. Good job. . . glad you put the effort into tracking down those numbers.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by ektbear: 9:06pm On Feb 09, 2012
Can you process by zone too? Rank from highest to lowest? Median IGR%?

Also, if you put it on google docs and share the link (making it read only), then no need for anyone to download a spreadsheet (they can view in their browser.)
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 10:06pm On Feb 09, 2012
If we decide to rank our Governors, it could appear like this
STATES TOTAL BUDGET % for CAP % for REC RANKING

AKWA IBOM 397,141,000,000 88.3 16.7 1
RIVERS 427,000,000,000 73.6 26.4 2
IMO 174,316,400,000 73.0 27.0 3
KASTINA 118,770,000,000 67.1 32.9 4
BORNO 130,600,000,000 66.5 33.5 5
SOKOTO 100,800,000,000 66.4 33.6 6
KANO 210,379,331,115 66.0 34.0 7
ZAMFARA 120,810,192,000 65.0 35.0 8
ADAMAWA 65,523,000,000 65.0 35.0 9
YOBE 98,100,000,000 62.4 37.6 10
PLATEAU 112,042,837,199 60.4 39.6 11
GOMBE 93,385,150,000 58.9 41.1 12
DELTA 437,000,000,000 58.7 41.3 13
CROSS RIVER 144,626,771,453 58.5 41.5 14
EDO 148,870,000,000 57.0 43.0 15
BAYELSA 228,000,000,000 57.0 43.0 16
ONDO 150,000,000,000 57.0 43.0 17
NASARAWA 97,566,011,955 56.6 43.4 18
KADUNA 154,330,000,000 55.1 44.9 19
OYO 160,600,000,000 54.7 45.3 20
EKITI 98,000,000,000 54.1 45.9 21
ABIA 122,390,433,920 53.4 46.6 22
BAUCHI 132,547,202,809 53.2 46.8 23
NIGER 90,300,000,000 53.0 47.0 24
OGUN 187,900,000,000 53.0 47.0 25
LAGOS 491,827,000,000 52.5 47.5 26
OSUN 146,000,000,000 52.1 47.9 27
TARABA 73,900,000,000 51.8 48.2 28
JIGAWA 104,400,000,000 51.4 48.6 29
KWARA 91,700,000,000 47.8 52.2 30
ANAMBRA 67,900,000,000 47.5 52.5 31
BENUE 105,500,000,000 45.9 54.1 32
KOGI 114,200,000,000 45.8 54.2 33
ENUGU 74,990,000,000 40.9 59.1 34
EBONYI 86,896,068,160 38.7 61.3 35
KEBBI NO BUDGET YET**
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PHIPEX(m): 10:11pm On Feb 09, 2012
Sinju:

A more useful data will be to look at what the State and Federal governments actually spend on capital and recurrent expenditures at the end of each fiscal year.

To budget is one thing, To stick to the budget is another thing

I really wish we can get access to such info but the only problem we might encounter could be manipulation of data by the governors. Is there no Office that does such work in the country?
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by gempo(m): 10:38pm On Feb 09, 2012
Kudos to Rivers and Imo.
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PROUDIGBO(m): 11:15pm On Feb 09, 2012
PHIPEX:

If we decide to rank our Governors, it could appear like this
STATES                   TOTAL BUDGET               % for CAP          % for REC           RANKING   

AKWA IBOM           397,141,000,000                   88.3             16.7                    1
RIVERS                   427,000,000,000                   73.6             26.4                    2
IMO                           174,316,400,000                   73.0             27.0                    3
KASTINA                   118,770,000,000                   67.1             32.9                    4
BORNO                   130,600,000,000                   66.5             33.5                    5
SOKOTO                   100,800,000,000                   66.4             33.6                    6
KANO                   210,379,331,115                   66.0             34.0                    7
ZAMFARA                   120,810,192,000                   65.0             35.0                    8
ADAMAWA             65,523,000,000                   65.0             35.0                    9
YOBE                     98,100,000,000                   62.4             37.6                    10
PLATEAU                   112,042,837,199                   60.4             39.6                    11
GOMBE                     93,385,150,000                   58.9             41.1                    12
DELTA                   437,000,000,000                   58.7             41.3                    13
CROSS RIVER           144,626,771,453                   58.5             41.5                    14
EDO                           148,870,000,000                   57.0             43.0                    15
BAYELSA                   228,000,000,000                   57.0             43.0                    16
ONDO                   150,000,000,000                   57.0             43.0                    17
NASARAWA             97,566,011,955                   56.6             43.4                    18
KADUNA                   154,330,000,000                   55.1             44.9                    19
OYO                           160,600,000,000                   54.7             45.3                    20
EKITI                     98,000,000,000                   54.1             45.9                    21
ABIA                           122,390,433,920                   53.4             46.6                    22
BAUCHI                   132,547,202,809                   53.2             46.8                    23
NIGER                     90,300,000,000                   53.0             47.0                    24
OGUN                   187,900,000,000                   53.0             47.0                    25
LAGOS                   491,827,000,000                   52.5             47.5                    26
OSUN                   146,000,000,000                   52.1             47.9                    27
TARABA                     73,900,000,000                   51.8             48.2                    28
JIGAWA                   104,400,000,000                   51.4             48.6                    29
KWARA                     91,700,000,000                   47.8             52.2                    30
ANAMBRA                     67,900,000,000                   47.5             52.5                    31
BENUE                   105,500,000,000                   45.9             54.1                    32
KOGI                   114,200,000,000                   45.8             54.2                    33
ENUGU                     74,990,000,000                   40.9             59.1                    34
EBONYI                     86,896,068,160                   38.7             61.3                    35
KEBBI                         NO BUDGET YET**

^^^Phew!! (sigh of relief) Thank God say we no carry last for this one. The mind boggles shocked. Hang on a minute----- just noticed kebbis' own is not yet ready sad angry. Fingers crossed Ebonyi just might beat them, but i ain't holding my breath. This Ebonyi just dey fall our hand, walahi.

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Is Anabra budget 67B? This is ridiculous, peter Obi is not realistic can he play conservatism in the state budget or could other states inflating figures? how much is he generating from parks and markets alone? this Obis last tenure needs to be investgated who is he saving money for? or he want to maintain excess crude acc

^^^Na you talk am oh, my brother. Serious questions need to be asked about what efforts have been made in that state (that houses the two massive Commercial and Industrial Cities of Onitsha and Nnewi) to improve its revenue base, as a budget of N67 Billion for a State in dire need of development like Anambra is just Pathetic!!!
Re: 2012 Budget: Are Our State Governors More Development Conscious Than Our Fg? by PROUDIGBO(m): 11:17pm On Feb 09, 2012
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