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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:17pm On Apr 05, 2015
PietroRico:
even if it were leicester, I would still be happy they didn't seize their chance to close the gap on us.

Lol, them never pass liverpool and man city finish na we wey sitdown third with the intention of winning the league na them wan close gap on? Guy bone cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:17pm On Apr 05, 2015
chrisley024:
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy SMH

Do you people hope or look for excuse to tear Rooney apart? How can you say he was shyte. Coming from chrisley who would praise RVP after scoring a goal even if he had been poor over several games, and even if he was the worst player in the game he finally scored.

I don't understand why some players attract bad comments here in the slightest opportunity. Rooney' movements have been praise worthy even when he is not on the ball. Yesterday when he was dropped into attacking midfield behind Falcao, he did not put any foot wrong.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:19pm On Apr 05, 2015
Juan Mata:
Real Madrid B: 39 Apps, 10 Goals
Valencia: 174 Apps, 46 Goals
Chelsea: 135 Apps, 33 Goals
United: 42 Apps, 14 Goals

Spain: 34 Apps, 10 Goals






Santi Cazorla:
Villarreal: 66 Apps, 7 Goals
Recreativo: 34 Apps, 5 Goals
Villarreal: 162 Apps, 26 Goals
Málaga: 42 Apps, 9 Goals
Arsenal: 136 Apps, 27 Goals

Spain: 69 Apps, 11 Goals




The above stats dont even take into consideration Assists, Individual honours, U16, U20 etc.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:21pm On Apr 05, 2015
elampiro:


Do you people hope or look for excuse to tear Rooney apart? How can you say he was shyte. Coming from chrisley who would praise RVP after scoring a goal even if he had been poor over several games, and even if he was the worst player in the game he finally scored.

I don't understand why some players attract bad comments here in the slightest opportunity. Rooney' movements have been praise worthy even when he is not on the ball. Yesterday when he was dropped into attacking midfield behind Falcao, he did not put any foot wrong.

Bros, forget all this sermon.. He didn't do much, he wasn't all shyte because of his goal and his contribution to the last goal, if not he was shyte
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:26pm On Apr 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Juan Mata:
Real Madrid B: 39 Apps, 10 Goals
Valencia: 174 Apps, 46 Goals
Chelsea: 135 Apps, 33 Goals
United: 42 Apps, 14 Goals

Spain: 34 Apps, 10 Goals






Santi Cazorla:
Villarreal: 66 Apps, 7 Goals
Recreativo: 34 Apps, 5 Goals
Villarreal: 162 Apps, 26 Goals
Málaga: 42 Apps, 9 Goals
Arsenal: 136 Apps, 27 Goals

Spain: 69 Apps, 11 Goals




The above stats dont even take into consideration Assists, Individual honours, U16, U20 etc.

You dey mind that guy, even his own statistics didn't prove carzola is head and shoulders above mata like he'd say
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:26pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


I've forgotten, but I know they've won by a large margin before, twice self
E sha no reach 9. No Epl team ll stand by and watch u put 9 goals past them. United ve beaten Birmingham 7-0 and there's the famous 8-2. And Arsenal did concede 6 twice last season and 5 in another but 9 is just too much
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:28pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:

Carzola is head and shoulder above Mata, age or no age. Thank you!

which cazorla? santi?
oh please - mata shytes on cazorla every day of the week. cesc or perhaps david silva are the only spanish midfielders better than mata in the premier league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 4:29pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


I wouldn't have brought up this statistics if I were you

Carzola, 61 appearances(last season and this season) 13goals.. I excluded his first season at arsenal cause mata has only played for 2 seasons

Mata, 41 appearances, 13goals


Carzola, 30 appearances this season, 7goals
Mata, 26 appearances this season, 7goals

Carzola has 99 appearances for arsenal alone, mata has 82 for both united and chelsea and has 18goals, while carzola has 23

According to the statistics YOU brought

So explain to us again how carzola is head and shoulders above mata? Or do you mean the head and shoulders shampoo?


Did you miss the EA overall performance index rating? Look again, and see the gap between Mata and Carzola. There is more to being a. good midfielder than just goals, if goals were all that matters, then Iniesta and Xavi wouldn't be considered as great midfielders.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 4:30pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


which cazorla? santi?
oh please - mata shytes on cazorla every day of the week. cesc or perhaps david silva are the only spanish midfielders better than mata in the premier league.



Mata is a learner where Carzola is. He should be coming for some tutorials! *grins*
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:30pm On Apr 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
E sha no reach 9. No Epl team ll stand by and watch u put 9 goals past them. United ve beaten Birmingham 7-0 and there's the famous 8-2. And Arsenal did concede 6 twice last season and 5 in another but 9 is just too much

I'm sure chelsea has done it, lemme check
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:32pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


Bros, forget all this sermon.. He didn't do much, he wasn't all shyte because of his goal and his contribution to the last goal, if not he was shyte

Which forget the sermon. Why do you guys have double standard?

Tell me when anyone has ever used the word 'shyte' when RVP has scored even if it were a penalty?

Now someone uses 'shyte' on a player who scored one and contributed massively to another. He had an effort on goal cleared off by a player, else it was in. He operated between two very tall defenders and was man marked heavily, yet he put only 4 passes wrong all afternoon.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:32pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:

Did you miss the EA overall performance index rating? Look again, and see the gap between Mata and Carzola. There is more to being a. good midfielder than just goals, if goals were all that matters, then Iniesta and Xavi wouldn't be considered as great midfielders.

that is because EA's player index weighs heavy on appearances. you can only use it to compare players who have had similar number of appearances. mata hasn't really played this season so it's obvious cazorla would be higher on the list.

however, if you put it down to the numbers according to the number of minutes spent by the respective players, arsënal would sack cazorla & send him to kano pillars. mata is one of the most creative players that has ever played in england. he always scores or assists.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:34pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:



Did you miss the EA overall performance index rating? Look again, and see the gap between Mata and Carzola. There is more to being a. good midfielder than just goals, if goals were all that matters, then Iniesta and Xavi wouldn't be considered as great midfielders.

Your statistics speak for you, not EA's overall performance index rating...
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by elampiro(m): 4:35pm On Apr 05, 2015
PietroRico:
they and liverpool.
Hopefully we destroy city's own next, after they fail to win tomorrow.

If we beat City, we are there.

Liverpool has an FA cup, meaning their two leaders will be back to steady them. Their remaining fixtures are very cheap.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:35pm On Apr 05, 2015
elampiro:


Which forget the sermon. Why do you guys have double standard?

Tell me when anyone has ever used the word 'shyte' when RVP has scored even if it were a penalty?

Now someone uses 'shyte' on a player who scored one and contributed massively to another. He had an effort on goal cleared off by a player, else it was in. He operated between two very tall defenders and was man marked heavily, yet he put only 4 passes wrong all afternoon.


Okay, rooney wasn't shyte, you don happy? But you'd agree he didn't do much
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:38pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:



Mata is a learner where Carzola is. He should be coming for some tutorials! *grins*
Dude u're letting sentiments cloud ur judgement on this issue. We both know today dat goals go a long way in determining how good a player is if not Neuer might just ve won this last Ballon d'Or. Besides apart from the goals Mata's stats puts him well over Cazorla
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 4:38pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


Your statistics speak for you, not EA's overall performance index rating...


http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/ea-sports-player-performance-index.html

Even Silva is taking tutorials from Carzola, and peeps are here talking about Mata! See insult, Santi must be apoplectic now!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:38pm On Apr 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
E sha no reach 9. No Epl team ll stand by and watch u put 9 goals past them. United ve beaten Birmingham 7-0 and there's the famous 8-2. And Arsenal did concede 6 twice last season and 5 in another but 9 is just too much


Spurs 9-1 wigan

I'm still looking for chelsea's own though

I think chelsea's own was 8 or so... I've seen it.. Chelsea 8-0 wigan

There's another one I'm looking for
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:39pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:



Did you miss the EA overall performance index rating? Look again, and see the gap between Mata and Carzola. There is more to being a. good midfielder than just goals, if goals were all that matters, then Iniesta and Xavi wouldn't be considered as great midfielders.
If goals weren't all dat mattered Iniesta should ve won World best back in 2010
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:39pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:



http://www.premierleague.com/en-gb/players/ea-sports-player-performance-index.html

Even Silva is taking tutorials from Carzola, and peeps are here talking about Mata! See insult, Santi must be apoplectic now!

Silva? You dey try troll abi wetin? undecided
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 4:43pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


that is because EA's player index weighs heavy on appearances. you can only use it to compare players who have had similar number of appearances. mata hasn't really played this season so it's obvious cazorla would be higher on the list.

however, if you put it down to the numbers according to the number of minutes spent by the respective players, arsënal would sack cazorla & send him to kano pillars. mata is one of the most creative players that has ever played in england. he always scores or assists.


Incase you haven't noticed, a player's consistent high performance is what earns him higher playing time than his mates, and most players that go on to be world bests often learn to play lots of matches with little or no injury.

Look at Hazard, a future Ballon D' or winner on top of that EA list and note the amount of playing time he has amassed, your excuse is simply sentimental. It's nobody's fault that Mata played lesser.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 4:44pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:



Spurs 9-1 wigan

I'm still looking for chelsea's own though

I think chelsea's own was 8 or so
Never knew. Just checked Defoe scored 5 in dat game
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:45pm On Apr 05, 2015
Adelana1

Spurs 9-1 wigan

Chelsea 8-0 wigan

Chelsea 8-0 aston villa
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:45pm On Apr 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Never knew. Just checked Defoe scored 5 in dat game

Yeah
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 4:47pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


Silva? You dey try troll abi wetin? undecided

The list wasn't compiled by pazienza! Carzola sits comfortably at 5th position there, check where your Silva is. *grins*
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:47pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:



Incase you haven't noticed, a players consistent high performance is what earns him higher playing time than his mates, and most players that go on to be world bests often learn to play lots of matches with little or no injury.

Look at Hazard, a future Ballon D' or. winner on top of that EA list and note the amount of playing time he has amassed, your excuse is simply sentimental. It's nobody's fault that Mata played lesser.

My great grand mother has a better chance of resurrecting

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 4:48pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:


The list wasn't compiled by pazienza! Carzola sits comfortably at 5th position there, check where your Silva is. *grins*

I gree
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 4:50pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:

Incase you haven't noticed, a players consistent high performance is what earns him higher playing time than his mates, and most players that go on to be world bests often learn to play lots of matches with little or no injury.

that's untrue....
hazard hasn't played better than mata this season. he has only played more games & half of his goals were awoof penalties. you have to dig deep to present statistics.....don't go over it from the surface.


Look at Hazard, a future Ballon D' or. winner on top of that EA list and note the amount of playing time he has amassed, your excuse is simply sentimental. It's nobody's fault that Mata played lesser.

hazard has played the most minutes of all european forwards. this is why he's on top of that list. before you present stats, you have to first understand how they arrived at it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 4:56pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


that's untrue....
hazard hasn't played better than mata this season. he has only played more games & half of his goals were awoof penalties. you have to dig deep to present statistics.....don't go over it from the surface.



hazard has played the most minutes of all european forwards. this is why he's on top of that list. before you present stats, you have to first understand how they arrived at it.

Lol! Comparing Hazard to Mata is like comparing Bendtner to Aguero, the gap in quality is just too much.*grins*

Playing more matches means that you get more chances of messing up and reducing your cumulative score. Hazard has proved that he can produce top quality performances match after match at the highest level of football, that's why he is on top of that list.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:00pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:

Lol! Comparing Hazard to Mata is like comparing Bendtner to Aguero, the gap in quality is just too much.*grins*

hazard was at chelsea when mata won their player of the season.


Playing more matches means that you get more chances of messing up and reducing your cumulative score. Hazard has proved that he can produce top quality performances match after match at the highest level of football, that's why he is on top of that list.

playing more matches means you can score awoof penalties like hazard did yesterday without really pulling trees. hazard has scored 3 penalties this season - he has only 9 open play goals in 2656 minutes. mata has 7 open play goals in 1756 minutes. so in 900 mins(equivalent of 10 full matches), hazard only has 2 goals to show for it.

come on, mata is more creative.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 5:11pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:


Lol! Comparing Hazard to Mata is like comparing Bendtner to Aguero, the gap in quality is just too much.*grins*

Playing more matches means that you get more chances of messing up and reducing your cumulative score. Hazard has proved that he can produce top quality performances match after match at the highest level of football, that's why he is on top of that list.
Now u're just being funny. U know dat right?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 5:11pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


hazard was at chelsea when mata won their player of the season.



playing more matches means you can score awoof penalties like hazard did yesterday without really pulling trees. hazard has scored 3 penalties this season - he has only 9 open play goals in 2656 minutes. mata has 7 open play goals in 1756 minutes. so in 900 mins(equivalent of 10 full matches), hazard only has 2 goals to show for it.

come on, mata is more creative.


Come on! Hazard has come in leaps and bounds since Mata left Chelsea.

Check out who is leading the stats for creation of the highest goal scoring chances in England and amongst the best in Europe this season. http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1956/europe/2015/01/03/7618202/who-is-the-most-creative-player-in-europe-this-season

Hazard is a world best material, Mata is a top level footballer.


Here is last season stat http://talksport.com/football/shock-stats-top-six-most-creative-players-premier-league-14022881673?p=5

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