elampiro:


The problem is that we are in a season where mistakes would prove very costly. All the top teams WOULD HARDLY LOSE to small teams. City looks like a team that is ready to reach 90 points. You don't get there by losing two many matches. A team that aspires to win the league should not lose more than 3 matches the whole season.

Pure Speculation!


And not in this premier league as we and liverpool can testify to already! We have over 50 games to play this season in all competitions give or take! So do city, arsenal and spurs! The inevitable injury crisis, ref blunders plus loss of form would hit each and every one of us as the season progresses and this would have a direct bearing on the title race!




We need to be more positive! If city likes they can be looking like beyonce's naked ass covered in chocolate syrup right now...it means nothing....even pep would attest to this! League titles are not won in september but in may....



We have lost only 6 points in the league and 3 points in our europa league group....ITS NOTHING to a team like united...we've erased 15 to 20 point leads to end up winning the title before so all we need is belief and support.

AdisaOwala:


This is interesting...

not like you ain't familiar with the "WHAT IS POGBA'S BEST POSITION"

weedtaker:
its a shame our own fans can't even address and analyze our own games, some are just set out at lambasting pogboon at any given chance, pogba even said that his best position is on the left side of midfield yet people are yarning bullocks, pogba is not a no.10 neither is he a CM in a pivot, and our problem is not in the midfield we have a very strong midfield, what surprises me is that we are not questioning our wingers and wing play, one of our best player last season have been struggling yet some folks don't think its a big deal instead they are busy pointing fingers at pogba and rooney, many have forgotten that in Jose's team his wingers are very important to his tactics
some even said José's tactic's is all about counter attack, but how can we counter when our wingers are playing like ghosts anyone who haven't been followings man utd and decides to watch us for the first time would think Valencia and shaw/pogba are our wingers
and those of us saying mous tactics has been found out should take a chill pill if jose don't succeed here then manutd are in a deep mess.

Nah, our no.1 problem is the midfield; Rooney, Pogba and Fellani. They can't pass, press or move and are slow. Just watch how many players mark our wingers whenever they get the ball and our CM remain stagnant. Not denying the fact that the wingers have been poor.

elampiro:


May be you are right. Pogba plays too close to the left wing leaving a big gap for Fellaini to manage.

There is a disconnection between the number 10 and the number 9. Even in the Europa game. The tactics has to be improved.

I guess Pogba is more at home at the left wing than at the centre which means we still have to spend again to bring in another midfielder. Chai! Upon all the money we have spent? Jose should just go to ligue 1 and get a tireless midfielder jare. Someone that can press all over the pitch.

chrisley024:
Nah, our no.1 problem is the midfield; Rooney, Pogba and Fellani. They can't pass, press or move and are slow. Just watch how many players mark our wingers whenever they get the ball and our CM remain stagnant. Not denying the fact that the wingers have been poor.

seems u misunderstood me, i mean we have midfield options that can make our midfield good.

How I wished our Carling Cup fixture against Northampton was gonna be played at Oldtrafford - atleast victory for even sure small...

All these tricky fixtures against Unknown entities (away from home) - me dey fear oh

If we crash out on Wednesday (Godforbid), the pressure would be too much on the team & Mourihno may lose it finally!

weedtaker:
seems u misunderstood me, i mean we have midfield options that can make our midfield good.

Truth be said most are average. We're missing that orchestrator.

Stats show we have run the least amount of all the teams in the league. Every single team in the league has covered more distance than we have.

No prizes for guess the top 3 in distance covered? Yes the current top 3 teams in the league.

For laffs by the way......King Troollney

chrisley024:
Truth be said most are average. We're missing that orchestrator.

carrick and blind??

eph12:

I guess Pogba is more at home at the left wing than at the centre which means we still have to spend again to bring in another midfielder. Chai! Upon all the money we have spent? Jose should just go to ligue 1 and get a tireless midfielder jare. Someone that can press all over the pitch.

Pressing cannot be done by only a player but by the whole team starting from those upfront. We've DMs that are OK but the issue is apart from tackling/defending what else they've to offer. In top teams and modern football, they should also be able to start the team's attack and or serve as a holding midfielder otherwise his fellow pair of midfielders should be able to cover those weaknesses very well.

Diademk07:


Which of them can bully Epl teams? Herrera? Morgan? Fellaini? Or Pogba?

Do you know the reason Van Gaal hardly played 2/3 of these players is because they lacked the Midfield basic? Apart from Fellaini whom I think always got into Van gaal line-ups because he's got a GOOD MOVEMENT, AERIAL STRENGTH and SOUND INTELLIGENCE in spite of his limited skills on the ball but there was always Carrick to complement him and compensate for the weakness of Fellaini.


On the other hand, the others are just plain STUPID! Headless chickens with nothing special to offer..

See the words wey person dey use associate with fellaini abeg? Na wa for this nigga....



So to you elbowing people, costing us stupid penalties or fouls close to our box, needless yellow and red cards, suspensions and playing clumsy soccer and losing possession that leads to goals are the hall marks of soccer intelligence? That is what you expect a man united midfielder to bring to midfield?




Fellaini is our WORST NATURAL midfield player hands down! He is not even of uniteds normal standards for a midfielder! He is just fortunate that he has met another coach that will tolerate him due to the coaches affinity for gigantic jam body players!

weedtaker:
carrick and blind??

Blind has been tried there and we saw he was average while Carrick is ok but we know he's old and now has tired legs.

SOLUTIONS:





The only man I feel should be put to play alongside pogba and someone else in a 3 man midfield set up is "marco veratti"...we should do whatever we can to get him next summer!




As for the wings, attack or supporting striker roles we should just break the bank and get "griezmann"....he recently ditched his agent so he would be willing to negotiate a fair deal for himself even in january!



As for central defence, smalling and blind are just not world beaters.....real may prove stubborn but we should try to get "raphael varane"...we chased him the hardest when he was leaving france but real used their normal dagbo to scatter that deal for us and now the guy na warmer! Jose has been trying for him and he is a natural no nonsense defender even though he can still improve!



My 10 bucks.........

Funlordjnr:



See the words wey person dey use associate with fellaini abeg? Na wa for this nigga....



So to you elbowing people, costing us stupid penalties or fouls close to our box, needless yellow and red cards, suspensions and playing clumsy soccer and losing possession that leads to goals are the hall marks of soccer intelligence? That is what you expect a man united midfielder to bring to midfield?




Fellaini is our WORST NATURAL midfield player hands down! He is not even of uniteds normal standards for a midfielder! He is just fortunate that he has met another coach that will tolerate him due to the coaches affinity for gigantic jam body players!

Like I stated earlier, Fellaini has limited skills on the ball but he's an intelligent player who can easily understand what his manager asked of him. For crying out loud, he was better than Herrera last season and he's been solid as a DM in spite of his little quality on the ball this season.

He's got good movement, and a tactically sound brain when he's not being a thug though. He's also positionally disciplined. There's a reason his managers loves him. There was even one article that stated that Fellaini always does what his manger ask him and this shows he's an intelligent man.

Funlordjnr:


The only man I feel should be put to play alongside pogba and someone else in a 3 man midfield set up is "marco veratti"...we should do whatever we can to get him next summer!

What happens this season??

It's rather unfortunate that we spent so much money to address a problem, only for us to realise (after 5 games) that we might have to spend some more money (next summer) to address the same problem.

chrisley024:
Blind has been tried there and we saw he was average while Carrick is ok but we know he's old and now has tired legs.

how old was pirlo when juve were dominating serie a and reaching the ucl finals?

Funlordjnr:


SOLUTIONS:





The only man I feel should be put to play alongside pogba and someone else in a 3 man midfield set up is "marco veratti"...we should do whatever we can to get him next summer!




As for the wings, attack or supporting striker roles we should just break the bank and get "griezmann"....he recently ditched his agent so he would be willing to negotiate a fair deal for himself even in january!



As for central defence, smalling and blind are just not world beaters.....real may prove stubborn but we should try to get "raphael varane"...we chased him the hardest when he was leaving france but real used their normal dagbo to scatter that deal for us and now the guy na warmer! Jose has been trying for him and he is a natural no nonsense defender even though he can still improve!



My 10 bucks.........

I don't want that Griezzman of a player. He's a good player but a fraud, just like Pogba. Everything has to be set just right to bring the best out of him.

He hardly create chances yet occupies the role behind another striker while leeching from the striker's hard work in the same way Pogba leeches off the hard work of the other midfielders in the midfield.

MrTA:
Stats show we have run the least amount of all the teams in the league. Every single team in the league has covered more distance than we have.

No prizes for guess the top 3 in distance covered? Yes the current top 3 teams in the league.

Let’s see the stat.

AdisaOwala:


What happens this season??

It's rather unfortunate that we spent so much money to address a problem, only for us to realise (after 5 games) that we might have to spend some more money (next summer) to address the same problem.

This season is not over by a long shot! I am only looking at alternatives that would make us improve as a team as well as help us compete in the champions league when we qualify! Or even players that can give us a shot in the arm by january just like what "henrik larsoon and vidic" gave us once upon a time!


This season is still on fire.....we are in it!

weedtaker:
how old was pirlo when juve were dominating serie a and reaching the ucl finals?

Pirlo wasn't consistent throughout that season though because he was ageing. He's also the better player between him and Carrick.

Diademk07:


I don't want that Griezzman of a player. He's a good player but a FRAUD, just like Pogba. Everything has to be set just right to bring the best out of him.

He HARDLY CREATES chances yet occupies the role behind another striker while leeching from the striker's hard work in the same way Pogba leeches off the hard work of the other midfielders in the midfield.

"UEFA chief technical officer Ioan Lupescu, who led the panel of technical observers that
named Griezmann as the BEST PLAYER of UEFA Euro 2016, said that "He works hard for his team and possesses technique, vision and quality finishing" and branded him "a threat in every game he played. A quick, modern, and versatile left-footed forward, with an eye for goal."


"Griezmann has been described as a "TEAM PLAYER", and is capable of occupying
several offensive positions in or behind the
main attacking line, due to his technical skills,
ability to drop deep and link-up play between
the forwards and midfielders, or score many
goals with both feet as well as his head: he has
been deployed as a main striker, in a central
role as an attacking midfielder, or as a winger,
on either flank."


"In addition to his ability to BOTH SCORE and CREATE GOALS, he has also been praised for his work rate, attacking movement, positional sense, and ability to interpret the game, which, combined with his pace, mobility and energy, enables him to make effective attacking runs to beat the defensive line. He is also accurate from penalties and set-pieces."


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antoine_Griezmann



I won't even bother with his club statistics, But to you na fraud him be abi? With this your love for the term fraud you suppose just go join efcc!

weedtaker:
how old was pirlo when juve were dominating serie a and reaching the ucl finals?

Pirlo na even Scholes' father not to talk of Carrick in the midfield.

Diademk07:


I don't want that Griezzman of a player. He's a good player but a fraud, just like Pogba. Everything has to be set just right to bring the best out of him.

He hardly create chances yet occupies the role behind another striker while leeching from the striker's hard work in the same way Pogba leeches off the hard work of the other midfielders in the midfield.

That's because Griezman isn't a "hole man" or a #10 - he is a 2nd striker who makes intelligent runs into spaces created by opponents in and around the box..

The Frenchman is more or less a Thomas Muller with a better technique

AdisaOwala:
The way Kagawa10 critiques the team though

He said Van Gaal made the team looked better than it really was.

Have! Kagawa10

Gaal inherited the same team SAF passed to Moyes. Chicharito, Kagawa, Mata, Fellaini, Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverley, Anderson, Di Maria, Herrera, Nani were all in the hands of Gaal. What did he do?

elampiro:


He said Van Gaal made the team looked better than it really was.

Have! Kagawa10

Gaal inherited the same team SAF passed to Moyes. Chicharito, Kagawa, Mata, Fellaini, Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverley, Anderson, Di Maria, Herrera, Nani were all in the hands of Gaal. What did he do?

Watch him come up with epistles on shattered confidence, injuries, players being forced on LVG etc

Ah and I almost forgot - LVG should also be given kudos for promoting youth players even when it was so clear that injuries (that led to a severely depleted squad) neccessitated that decision...

The dude is just unbelievable!

elampiro:


Let’s see the stat.

Sorry, forgot to post the link.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/lazy-man-united-jose-mourinhos-8867582

Abeg, not another series of epistles here

chrisley024:
Pressing cannot be done by only a player but by the whole team starting from those upfront. We've DMs that are OK but the issue is apart from tackling/defending what else they've to offer. In top teams and modern football, they should also be able to start the team's attack and or serve as a holding midfielder otherwise his fellow pair of midfielders should be able to cover those weaknesses very well.

How do you start attack? Is it rocket scienc? How does a Busquet or whoever starts attack? Is it not by releasing it to a player in a forward position or am I missing something? Win ball back or receive from the defender and pass to a player forward abi no be so? Which of this is Fellaini not doing?

AdisaOwala:


That's because Griezman isn't a "hole man" or a #10 - he is a 2nd striker.

The Frenchman is more or less a Thomas Muller with a better technique

The more reason he should be on the wing as other wing forwards but unlike Muller, he's awful on the wing.
At least, the likes of Muller, Rooney, Bale has some decent vision unlike Griesmann who's visionally impaired. He's just like a rich man's Welbeck.

Personally, I've always favoured a 3-man midfield or at least, a creative roaming no 10 such as Ozil behind the striker as opposed to a Griesman kind of player.

Did you know as soon as Deschamp catered to the needs of Griesman at the Euros, the likes of Pogba, Payet, Martial and even Giroud to some extent were all affected. Giroud had to work extra hard with his hold up play and aerial threats because he got little chance from the midfield except for crosses while Griessman benefited from the attention on Giroud and constantly ghosted in to score from every loose ball or knock downs.

Even his coach, Simeone had to often switch to a 433 setup in any big games. For example, their match vs Barca in the CL because he knows such set up is useless against quality functional opposition teams. That's when you consider that Atletico already has a playmaker in Koke in their 442 setup unlike our team.

Let's look at it this way, with Pogba already in the team, we have no choice than to fit him, DM and a playmaker in our midfield in the future, so where do you think Griesman will fit in? On the wing of course! Which would set us back to another problem because he's awful on the wing and then, we would have to deploy a set up to bring the best out of our record signing at the expense of the team.

We can fit him in if we switched to a 352 set up but I would rather use both Martial and Rashford as my strikers in that set up.

Diademk07:


Like I stated earlier, Fellaini has limited skills on the ball but he's an intelligent player who can easily understand what his manager asked of him. For crying out loud, he was better than Herrera last season and he's been solid as a DM in spite of his little quality on the ball this season.

He's got good movement, and a tactically sound brain when he's not being a thug though. He's also positionally disciplined. There's a reason his managers loves him. There was even one article that stated that Fellaini always does what his manger ask him and this shows he's an intelligent man.

That guy just hate Fellaini for no reason. Too bad. If it's because of his previous poor performance for us then he needs to have a rethink because that's the only guy in our midfield that has been trying to keep it together. Because Pogba cost whatever he has refused to criticise Pogba but putting all the blame on Fellaini. Rubbish

weedtaker:
its a shame our own fans can't even address and analyze our own games, some are just set out at lambasting pogboon at any given chance, pogba even said that his best position is on the left side of midfield yet people are yarning bullocks, pogba is not a no.10 neither is he a CM in a pivot, and our problem is not in the midfield we have a very strong midfield, what surprises me is that we are not questioning our wingers and wing play, one of our best player last season have been struggling yet some folks don't think its a big deal instead they are busy pointing fingers at pogba and rooney, many have forgotten that in Jose's team his wingers are very important to his tactics
some even said José's tactic's is all about counter attack, but how can we counter when our wingers are playing like ghosts anyone who haven't been followings man utd and decides to watch us for the first time would think Valencia and shaw/pogba are our wingers
and those of us saying mous tactics has been found out should take a chill pill if jose don't succeed here then manutd are in a deep mess.

I totally disagree with " our problem is not in the midfield we have a very strong midfield".
Our midfield yesterday was very poor. We lacked creativity and pace in that midfield. A midfield where Pogba and Rooney who were the most advanced in the three couldn't create any chance in open play. Fellaini as limited as he is created two chances from open play. Does this not tell is where the problem lies? None of them can play make. One is always making the simplest things look difficult.

JM needs to make a tough decision in that our midfield if our play is to improve. We have Carrick and Teiger who can dictate play and easily rotate them because of age and injury. I can't blame the defence so much because of the combination of the midfielder he's using.