naijaking1:

Thanks for posting the federal version of the minutes taken by Akenzua. While the color of the language maybe different from what Eziachi had posted earlier, the essential ingredients remain the same.
It will make sense to wait for the minutes taken by the other secretaries including the NU Akpan for the east before describing the title as being errorneuos.


Even this version of the minutes doesn't differ greatly from the essence and thematic structure of Eziachi's initial posting. It makes me wonder why you seem so biased against reality and the truth

Ji_sun_pack:

@OP
Abeg make we hear word. Biafra was a bigh hoax build with greedy intentions, little wonder you Igbos are the only ones seeing the lbenefit of Aburi rubbish. Why can't you just relocate to south east? Oh, i forgot South South oil must be included abi, thieves.

Your greediness has been laid bare for all to see, so no amount of name calling the SW can change the fact Ojukwu power drunk and by extention SE are greedy and full of deciet.

BTW why are you afraid of all inclusive separation like SNC if you have no hidden agenda. Na only una get sense pass. Una never see anything yet. Aburi ko, Abori ni.

Ji_sun_pack:

@OP
Abeg make we hear word. Biafra was a bigh hoax build with greedy intentions, little wonder you Igbos are the only ones seeing the lbenefit of Aburi rubbish. Why can't you just relocate to south east? Oh, i forgot South South oil must be included abi, thieves.

Your greediness has been laid bare for all to see, so no amount of name calling the SW can change the fact Ojukwu power drunk and by extention SE are greedy and full of deciet.

BTW why are you afraid of all inclusive separation like SNC if you have no hidden agenda. Na only una get sense pass. Una never see anything yet. Aburi ko, Abori ni.

marvix:

Taking my time to read thru all d comments through my fone has allowed me to learn more on d discourse that led to the civil war and further strenghtened my resolve that an SNC is not d solution to our problems. Truth be said we don't need an SNC, this was d original premise of Eziachi, we have had series of conferences and they yielded nothing good, to be fair to the Aburi conference it gave us a 30 month civil war and I will ask a simple question here if we have a conference today and after all discussions the powers that be decide not to implement the resolutions what would we do? Revolt? Its a silly scheme only guaranteed to waste more of our resources.

Having said that as my contribution to the debate and trying to refocus it on the original theme I must state that my father  is a very big fool with no sense of responsibility, he is a standard example of the malady and palavers that have ruined dis nation from his 1st reply to d last was just a show of idiocy and stupidity. All attempts by him to derail d thread was obvious and makes me think that we shld have a Supreme Commander on NL whose duty would be to delete individuals like him without warning and if absolute power wld corrupt absolutely maybe a Supreme Council on NL should be set up to review posts and idiots like him flushed out, its obvious he's a tribalist and a very poor one at that, I learnt a lot from Thonians post and Eziachis post is not the minutes but a commentary of d minutes but how was dat supposed to bcom d bone of contention, the biafran version posted was a comprehensive document of which d minutes he's looking for is an appendix, did my father go to school at all, just another classical case of an educated illiterate whose parents hav obviously wasted their funds maybe not hard earned sending him to school.

Please let's not dwell on my attack at my father but pls let us consider the fact that an SNC is not viable and feasible and splitting d country along ethnic or religious lines would serve our overall interests, while we may want to conclude that it worked in d Soviet Union and Sudan pls don't 4get that beta things dat worked elsewhere hav always failed here due 2 d Nigerian factor and splitting this country shld not be considered without 1st resolving d Nigerian factor b4 a referendum or SNC can b convened we must first do away with d Nigerian factor.

In my opinion d constitution as it is can still save dis nation, I support d 20millionyouths42015 initiative to rescue our nation from d elders and start on a fresh slate let's beat d politicians at their own game!!!!

aribisala0:

You see the problem we have in our national discourse is a lack of honesty.

If we are honest rather than give a version that is hotly disputed it would be best to admit that it is controversial.
There are several accounts of the facts and even more interpretations of those

whilst it is probably true that no one version is right or wrong absolutely.
To refer me to Ezinach's account of the termination of the First republic is disingenuous.
It is only fanatics that believe they have perfect knowledge of events. Even key actors DO NOT

In the end we shall all believe what we wish to believe claiming those who do not share our beliefs are distorting history.
The story of those times is like religion ,we worship different gods

That approach will change nothing and achieve nothing BUT

the Constitution of the first republic was not a bad one ,it was not perfect but it was a civilian constitution.

It was a constitution that allowed the Northern region to prevent other Nigerians taking jobs in their civil service and even imposed a Hausa test.
The Nigerian MILITARY headed by Ironsi brought in CENTRALIZATION(Did Ojukwu Object).It was a RESOURCE CONTROL constitution.

If we agree that the MILITARY of every ethnic hue (as you assert) truncated it,
to now tell us Ojukwu was somehow visionary in agreeing to continue with MILITARY government insults our intelligence.
The best I can say is the NIGERIAN MILITARY caused the problem NOT IGBO officers but NIGERIAN  officers and OJUKWU was one of them! He shared collective responsibility with his colleagues in the Nigerian military for bringing in the UNITARY STRUCTURE

I am sorry for you. . .

You are like a man who calls his fathers house shi't yet lives everyday in it and bares his surname. .

I am not a Northerner. I am an Igbo man. Just not a backward bigot like yourself. I have studied the past, learnt my lessons and moved on. . . The principal actors in the Biafran Saga are all dying off. Their era and time is fast coming to an end, the children on the Nigerian side of the fence have all moved on, its the Easterners that are still sulking in their little corner, looking for scraps and pieces of acachievements no matter how mediocre) to hold onto as their victories from the war (e.g Biafran baby jets, Ogbunigwe and the supposed biarfran armoured vehicles), Still trying to seek relevance in the Aburi accord that was signed at a period when military men ruled, still celebrating Ojukwu as a GOD coconvenientlygnoring the part where he fled to ivory coast by night.

As grand as the Aburi accord may have been at the time, its of no relevance now. . . When would you wipe your tears, pick up your sorry arse and move on with your life?!

Its people like you that spend all your effort hating the Northerners and the Westerners around you, keeping malice meanwhile they barely even know that you exist. Ypu say we were thaught to hate igbos, I laugh at the splendour of your delusion . . The only thing mentioned about that beat-down that you all a war was in socials studies class in primary 4 and it barely took a chapter in the text book sef. Nobody has your time. . .

Keep all the manuscripts you can find from the war, keep all the war memmemorabilia/parparaphernalia u can find, all the recordings, pictures and publications. . . They would be worth a poo load of money 100 years down the line, when they would be sold at auctions. . .

BIAFRA is a dead dream . . .

MASSOB, Biafran Zionist Movement and co. are all trying to raise the dust of a dead corpse. . .

Ojukwu your leader is dead and would be buried by the same side that defeated him in 1969. . . .


Now go get a job so you can feed your family and hopefully, your children would not grow up with the same retrogressive narrow mindset that you have. . .

High_Chief:

I am High Chief and I hereby confirm that my father is a dunce and lacks full knowledge of Nigeria history and politics


@Okija Juju, the bolded has given you away, though it is not unknown to so many of us here that you are a son of arewa. You always have a hard  for anything Igbo and the obsession is likely to kill you. Indeed aburi accord is not relevance now but you are calling for SNC right? Probably you are a product of Biafran war, maybe a Nigerian soldier is actually your father, Aturu ocha ediottaa

High_Chief:

^^^Dad just give up now and stop disgracing yourself any further. With dunces like you, i fear for the future of that country.

Eziachi:

Since I posted this issue, I have seen and read other versions of Aburi accord and all I can deduce was that while the language colour was slightly different, still the main ingredient and content remain the same. But trust NIGERIANS they leave the flesh and pick on the bone, something they inherited from day one.
Give a starving Nigerian a hot delicious bread to devour, he will start worring about the kind of oven used in baking it first.
One minute they wants Odua republic or soutthern whatever republic but jump into the lagoon once they heard about Biafra. The killing of thousand of Igbos and other southerners doesn't warrant Ojukwus action but the same people cried blue murder because Jonathan posted soldiers on the street of Lagos.

They wanted Nigeria to burn because MKO Abiola ws denied the presidency he won fair and square but Biafrans that peacefully left because they are killed left and right killed the pope.
Ojukwu was a coward for living in exile and to allow his personality no to hamper the chance of his people from recovering, but MKO who fled to the U.K after june 12 because of the threat to his life is a hero. When the psycho called Abacha was in power, all you heard is the cry for SNC but immediatly OBJ took over, the call/clamour disappeared for 8 years and surprisingly the called returned immediately Yar Adua took over and got much louder as soon as the Ijaw fisherman took over.
That is the sign of a nation going nowhere- steady INCONSISTENCY.

Ji_sun_pack:

Save to say the Igbos are now trapped in the rubbish they build via the greedy power drunk rebel wannabe called Ojukwu. There is no amount of repeatation can turn any suger coated lies and deciet into truth. It's morning time!

How about apologizing for killing Akintola? What were you thinking when you murdered Sardauna and Tafawa Balewa and let Nnamdi Azikwe ran into exile? Was that clause part of Aburi nonsense?. Una never see anything sef

Here is my take
1. Move and relocate your business to south east in protest of building Biafra
or
2. initiate a UN resolution/referundum of exiting Nigeria peacefully via lobbying any veto wielding state.

Unilateral invasion and occupation of any region can't and wont help any of your greedy cause. We the sensible Nigerians demand for a peaceful round table, all inlusive decision of separation. No one is going to allow you enslave the defunct eastern minority tribes or annex any south southern state into your Biafra. The decisions must be all inclusive and not Aburi kangaroo meeting where some weed smoking reetarrds decided to meet and discuss where the next or.gy party is going to take place. Shssssh

When Ojukwu expressed his disgust over the murder of Igbo army officers by their northern colleagues in July 1966, Lt-Colonel Katsina interjected by asking Ojukwu why he had not reacted with the same revulsion when senior northern military officers were murdered by Igbo soldiers seven months earlier. Ojukwu now explained and reasoned that against the falsehood been spread but in January 1966, soldiers from every region of the federation (Nzeogwu: Mid-West, Ifeajuna-East, Ademoyega: West, Kpera: North) had staged a coup in which soldiers and politicians from every region of the federation (Akintola: West, Balewa: North, Unegbe: East, Okotie-Eboh: Mid-West) were also killed.
Whereas when northern soldiers staged a revenge coup in July, soldiers from one region of the federation only (North: Danjuma, Murtala, Martin Adamu etc) singled out soldiers from one region in the federation as their targets. Katsina took this opportunity to remind Ojukwu of the effort he had put in to prevent the murder of Igbos. Katsina told Ojukwu that "If you know how much …we have tried to console the people to stop all these movements and mass killings, you will give me and others a medal tonight."

High_Chief:

If you actually did not write the above under influence of alcohol, then I wont forgive your ignorance. Prolly its just selective reading, how could you have missed the below information:


Unegbe is an Igbo man and he was killed and Zik escaped, just the way Akintola was killed and Awolowo survived it. Meanwhile, it was not an Igbo coup. Like I earlier said, most of you are acting based on the lies fed to you by your parents, you all need to pick a dammn book and get your facts rights. I gues you are enjoying the "One Nigeria" so much. You guys had better wake up, am glad for my SS brothers cos they have realized. Yorubas are the problem of that country. Parasites

High_Chief:

^^^The problem is not with the Ndigbo that celebrated, who were civilians. The question is this; where the civilians part of the coup and killings? NO. When did killing civilians en mass during coup become part of military.

Again forget about who i quoted and the source of the exerpts, pray tell, those names Ojukwu mentioned were they part of the coup/revolution? Those that were killed including the Igbo soldier, was he killed or not?

Honestly, I wouldnt want to join issues with you because you see nothing wrong with the killings of over 30,000 innocent Ndigbo civilians. It goes further to explain why the trend is prevailent till date. I rest my case with you, cos I can deduce that the problem you have is that "Ojukwu said it" so that makes it wrong, but you have done nothing to prove that the names he mentioned did not participate. Your hausa masters have programmed you guys brains to see anything Ojukwu said as wrong, so it will always affect your judgement process

High_Chief:

If you actually did not write the above under influence of alcohol, then I wont forgive your ignorance. Prolly its just selective reading, how could you have missed the below information:


Unegbe is an Igbo man and he was killed and Zik escaped, just the way Akintola was killed and Awolowo survived it. Meanwhile, it was not an Igbo coup. Like I earlier said, most of you are acting based on the lies fed to you by your parents, you all need to pick a dammn book and get your facts rights. I gues you are enjoying the "One Nigeria" so much. You guys had better wake up, am glad for my SS brothers cos they have realized. Yorubas are the problem of that country. Parasites

Eziachi:


MKO who fled to the U.K after june 12 because of the threat to his life is a hero.

High_Chief:

^^^The problem is not with the Ndigbo that celebrated, who were civilians. The question is this; where the civilians part of the coup and killings? NO. When did killing civilians en mass during coup become part of military.

Again forget about who i quoted and the source of the exerpts, pray tell, those names Ojukwu mentioned were they part of the coup/revolution? Those that were killed including the Igbo soldier, was he killed or not?

Honestly, I wouldnt want to join issues with you because you see nothing wrong with the killings of over 300,000 innocent Ndigbo civilians. It goes further to explain why the trend is prevailent till date. I rest my case with you, cos I can deduce that the problem you have is that "Ojukwu said it" so that makes it wrong, but you have done nothing to prove that the names he mentioned did not participate. Your hausa masters have programmed you guys brains to see anything Ojukwu said as wrong, so it will always affect your judgement process

Eziachi:


When the psycho called Abacha was in power, all you heard is the cry for SNC but immediatly OBJ took over, the call/clamour disappeared for 8 years and surprisingly the called returned immediately Yar Adua took over and got much louder as soon as the Ijaw fisherman took over.

Onlytruth:

Frankly the bolded is why I stopped believing in the idea of a common nation between Igbo and Yoruba. I know for sure (at least judging by opinions here) that they would NEVER condemn the killing of 30,000 innocent Igbo and Eastern Nigerians in 1966. I have seen here on this site that even some Northern minorities have condemned that action; but not Yoruba. Now, I also know that they would not wish same on themselves for any reason, so I've concluded that only [size=18pt]the purest form of wickedness and hate[/size] can produce such convictions. BTW Hausa did not program them to hate us like this. lol This is ingrained and even inbred.
That is why I laugh at those thinking that Nigeria will survive. Like I keep saying, Nigeria cannot survive and we Ndigbo don't have to push it over the edge. It was programmed to fail. 

Onlytruth:

Frankly the bolded is why I stopped believing in the idea of a common nation between Igbo and Yoruba. I know for sure (at least judging by opinions here) that they would NEVER condemn the killing of 30,000 innocent Igbo and Eastern Nigerians in 1966. I have seen here on this site that even some Northern minorities have condemned that action; but not Yoruba. Now, I also know that they would not wish same on themselves for any reason, so I've concluded that only the purest form of wickedness and hate can produce such convictions. BTW Hausa did not program them to hate us like this. lol This is ingrained and even inbred.
That is why I laugh at those thinking that Nigeria will survive. Like I keep saying, Nigeria cannot survive and we Ndigbo don't have to push it over the edge. It was programmed to fail.