buzugee:

well its like this. as you rightly alluded to, the greatest law is to love the lord with all your heart.

if you love the lord with all your heart you will obey all his laws

scripture says whomever disobeys the least of my laws will be truncated to the bottom in heaven MATTEW 5 VS 19.  that shows you he is serious about all his laws, even the least (see how this is culled from the new testament )

so basically by hanging all his commandments on 2 laws, he basically covered all the bases. if you love the lord you will not break ANY of his laws

however he also knows that we are in the era of the gentiles as he himself handed the world to the gentiles to rule because the righteous were being unrighteous (romans 11 vs 11) (job 9 vs 24 ) ( revelations 6 vs 4). so we are to render unto caesar what is caesars. meaning you have to obey the laws of the gentiles. while you are not supposed to shave your beard, if your boss says he wants your beard shaved for professionalism, you have to do it. you have to render unto him what is his. same way you will not put homosexuals to death in this gentile world, unless of course you dont mind the death penalty  

finally, the laws that have definitely been eradicated are the sacrificial laws because the messiah came to eradicate the sacrificial laws. now you dont have to kill doves or lambs and whatnot. all that sacrifice ritual is out the window. every other law stands (but you dont have to obey them if they interfere with the law of the land you live in )

We cannot apply give to unto ceasar, what belongs to ceasar in everything. Jesus was talking about paying taxes.

What if the government says no more christian broadcasting or decides to jail anyone that condemns homosexuality(some countries see speaking against homosexuality as a hate crime). will you apply give to ceasar here by obeying the laws that contradicts christian beliefs?

The Genealogy of Jesus Christ.

Cross reference: Matthew 1:1-17; Luke 3:23-38

Introduction

The Bible is a book of life, and this life is a living person, the wonderful and Christ. The Old Testament gives a portrait, in types, shadows and prophecies, of this wonderful person as the Coming One. Now, in the New Testament, this wonderful person has come. The first page of the New Testament, in recommending this wonderful person to us, gives us His genealogy. This genealogy can be considered an abstract of the Old Testament, which in itself is the detailed genealogy of Christ. To understand the genealogy in Matthew, we need to trace the origin and history of every incident.

Christ, as the wonderful center of the entire Bible, is all-inclusive, having many aspects. The New Testament at its beginning presents four biographies to portray the four main aspects of Christ. The Gospel of Matthew testifies that He is the King, the Christ of God prophesied in the Old Testament, who brings the kingdom of the heavens to the earth. The Gospel of Mark tells us that He is the Servant of God, laboring for God faithfully. Mark's account is most simple, for a servant does not warrant a detailed record. The Gospel of Luke presents a full picture of Him as the only proper and normal man who ever lived on this earth; as such a man, He is the Savior of mankind – the created race. The Gospel of John unveils Him as the Son of God, the very God Himself, who is life to God's people.

Among the four Gospels, Matthew and Luke have a record of genealogy; Mark and John do not. To testify that Jesus is the King, the Christ of God prophesied in the Old Testament, Matthew needs to show us the antecedents and status of this King, to prove that He is the proper successor to the throne of David. To prove that Jesus is a proper and normal man, Luke needs to show the generations of this man, to attest that He is qualified to be the Savior of mankind – created race. For the record of a servant, Mark does not need to tell us His origin. To unveil that Jesus is the very God, neither does John need to give us His human genealogy; rather, he declares that, as the Word of God, He is the very God in the beginning.

The kingdom, of which Christ is the King, is composed of Abraham's descendants, including both his descendants in the flesh (body) and those in faith (spirit). Hence, the genealogy of Christ in Matthew begins with Abraham, the father of the “called” race, not with Adam, the father of the “created” race. God's kingdom is not built with the created race of Adam because Adam already fell but with the called race of Abraham, which includes both the real Israelites (Rom. 9:6- and the believers in Christ (Gal. 3:7, 9, 29). To prove by relating His genealogy that Jesus is a proper man qualified to be the Savior of mankind, Luke traces His genealogy back to Adam, the first generation of mankind as the created race. In the genealogy of Jesus given by Luke, which proves that He is a proper man, the title Christ is not mentioned (Luke 3:23-38). But in the genealogy of Christ given here by Matthew, which proves that He is the King, the Christ of God, the title Christ is emphasized repeatedly (Matt 1:1, 16-17).

@ Everyone,

I will be quoting from New King James Version of bible translation and will use other translations if necessary. Thank y'all.

Verse 1: The book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ, the Son of David, the Son of Abraham:

There are only two places in the entire bible where you find the phrase, “The book of the genealogy of”. Here in Matt 1:1 and Genesis 5:1. There is something unique about these two verses in common. Matthew shows or proved to us that Jesus is the central message of the New Testament while Genesis 5:1 shows the genealogy of Adam. Genesis shows of the first Adam while Matthew reveals the second Adam. The first Adam was a created race from the dust, the second Adam, Christ is a begotten man from heaven. Reference: 1 Corinthians 15:21-22, 45-48.

The word genealogy is the study of one's ancestors: parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and so on back through history to the present age or generation of a particular person. Genealogy speaks from the past into the “NOW”. Hence we can say genealogy is past-present and continuous. It is in the natural to them and it is also to us spiritual as given in 1 Cor. 15:45-46. It means people that produced Jesus in the natural then and people that will produce Jesus in the spirit now. Many people do not see anything meaningful in this book of the genealogy of Jesus Christ except for just list of names. The revelation here in genealogy is that, it is in the past, present and continuous tense. A people that produced Jesus in the natural. A people that is producing and that will produce Jesus Christ in the spiritual. The name Jesus means Saviour and Christ is the title meaning the Anointed One.

The son of David, the son of Abraham: This phrase is also strange, powerful and full of revelation. In my entire life, I never see a man with two natural fathers but the phrase says, "the son of David, the son of Abraham" It simply means Jesus came from the lineage of David and Abraham. Another thing here is Abraham lived before David but this phrase says, son of David first. Abraham is a “called” race while David is “chosen” race which made him king in Israel. When the phrase says, son of David it meant to proof Jesus as a King of the Jews or King of the chosen race. Again, we all know that David did not give birth directly to Jesus neither did Abraham but the phrase says, “Son of David, son of Abraham”. It was Solomon that David gave birth to directly and it was Isaac that Abraham gave birth to directly. This reveals to us that both Solomon and Isaac are “type” of Jesus Christ when we interpret the phrase.

Solomon is a type of Christ as the son of David, the One who inherits the throne and kingdom of David (2 Sam. 7:12-13; Luke 1:32-33). Solomon, as a type of Christ, did mainly two things: he built the temple of God in the kingdom (1 Kings 6:2) and spoke the word of wisdom (1 Kings 10:23-24; Matt. 12:42). Christ, in fulfilling this type, is now building the real temple of God, believers and the church, in the kingdom of God and has spoken the word of wisdom.

Isaac is a type of Christ as the son of Abraham, the One who inherits the promise and blessing God gave to Abraham (Gen. 22:17-18; Gal. 3:16, 14). Isaac also, as a type of Christ, did mainly two things: he obeyed his father even unto death and was resurrected from death (Gen. 22:9-10; Heb. 11:19), and he took Rebekah, a Gentile woman, as his wife (Gen. 24:61-67). Christ, in fulfilling this type, was put to death and offered to God and was resurrected from death, and He is taking the church as His bride out of the Gentiles or the world.

Verse 2: Abraham begot Isaac, Isaac begot Jacob, and Jacob begot Judah and his brothers.

Abraham begot eight sons (Gen. 16:15; 21:2-3; 25:2). Among those eight, only Isaac is counted as the promised seed (Rom. 9:7-. Hence, Christ is his descendant to fulfill God's promise given to Abraham and to him (Gen. 22:18; 26:4). Isaac begot twin sons, Esau and Jacob (Gen. 25:21-26), but only Jacob was chosen by God (Rom. 9:10-13). Hence, Christ is his descendant to fulfill God's promise given to Abraham, to Isaac, and to him (Gen. 22:18; 26:4; 28:14).

The birthright of the promised seed consists of the double portion of the land, the priesthood, and the kingship. Reuben, as the firstborn son of Jacob, should have inherited the birthright. But because of his defilement he lost the birthright (Gen. 49:3-4; 1 Chron. 5:1-2). The double portion of the land went to Joseph through his two sons, Manasseh and Ephraim (Josh. 16--17); the priesthood went to Levi (Deut. 33:8-10); and the kingship was given to Judah (Gen. 49:10; 1 Chron. 5:2). Hence, Christ, the King of God's kingdom, is a descendant of Judah (Heb. 7:14); as such, He inherits the kingdom. Neither the brothers of Isaac nor the brother of Jacob, but only the brothers of Judah, are mentioned in this genealogy, because only Judah's brothers were chosen by God.

Verse 3: Judah begot Perez and Zerah by Tamar, Perez begot Hezron, and Hezron begot Ram.

Pharez and Zarah were twins. At the time of delivery Zarah put out his hand, and the midwife marked it with a scarlet thread, indicating that he would be the firstborn. However, Pharez preceded him to be the firstborn (Gen. 38:27-30). Pharez was not chosen by man but was chosen by God, proving that it was not by man's choice but by God's.

In the genealogy of Adam no woman is recorded (Gen. 5:1-32), but in this genealogy of Christ five women are mentioned. Only one of these five was a chaste virgin — Mary, a descendant of the chosen race. Of her, Christ was directly born (v. 16). Among the rest — Tamar, Rahab, Ruth (v. 5), and Bathsheba, who had been the wife of Uriah (v. 6) — some were Gentiles, some were remarried, and three were even sinful — Tamar committed incest, Rahab was a prostitute, and Bathsheba committed adultery. This indicates that Christ is related not only to the Jews but also to the Gentiles, even to the sinful people, and is the kingly Savior of typical sinners. Tamar was Judah's daughter-in-law. Judah begot Pharez and Zarah of her by incest (Gen. 38:6-30). What an evil!

The kingdom of God is made up of people who are taken out of the world, full of worldliness, who are sinful with all kinds of sins, chosen and converted into the kingdom of God. This is the beauty of the genealogy of Christ. Those who reproduced are reproducing and will reproduce Jesus Christ here on earth. Friends, it doesn’t matter your sins in the past, now or future, you can come to the kingdom of God by allowing Jesus to manifest in you and through you. This is not neither to justify our sins in the present and future nor continue in sin but our God’s kingdom is made off imperfect people not saints.

As much as appreciate the effort you put in here. I still feel this thread will be more fruitful topically than verse by verse. Let's say we study a chapter Individually in a day or a week and matters arising are brought to the table for discussion. Eg. Questions observations and etc.

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Ok, Let's all come together and make conclusions then. However, I have done studies in depth. I was going to allow questions and answer for disccusion after verse 4-5.

Verse 4-5: Ram begot Amminadab, Amminadab begot Nahshon, and Nahshon begot Salmon. Salmon begot Boaz by Rahab, Boaz begot Obed by Ruth, Obed begot Jesse,

Rahab was a prostitute in Jericho (Josh. 2:1), a place cursed by God for eternity (Josh. 6:26). After she turned to God and God's people (Josh. 6:22-23, 25; Heb. 11:31) and married Salmon, a leader of Judah, the leading tribe (1 Chron. 2:10-11), she brought forth Boaz, a godly man, out of whom Christ came. Regardless of our background, if we turn to God and His people by repentance and are joined to the proper person among God's people, we will bring forth proper fruit and participate in the enjoyment of the birthright of Christ. This is what means to generate Christ. God is counting on you as you study this with us. Boaz redeemed his kinsman's inheritance and married the man's widow (Ruth 4:1-17). By so doing he became a notable forefather of Christ, a great associate of Christ.

The origin of Ruth was incest, for she belonged to the tribe of Moab (Ruth 1:4), the fruit of Lot's incestuous union with his daughter (Gen. 19:30-38). Deuteronomy 23:3 forbade the Moabites to enter the assembly of Jehovah, even to the tenth generation. Ruth, however, not only was accepted by the Lord but also became one of the most important ancestors of Christ because she sought God and God's people (Ruth 1:15-17; 2:11-12). Regardless of who we are and what our background is, as long as we have a heart that seeks God and His people, we are in a position to be accepted into the birthright of Christ.

Boaz's mother, Rahab, was a Canaanites and a prostitute, and his wife, Ruth, was a Moabites of incestuous origin and a widow. Both were Gentiles and of low class, yet they are associated with Christ. Christ is joined not only to the Jews but also to the Gentiles, even to those of low estate. Isaiah 11:1 prophesied that Christ would be "a twig (literally) out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch , out of his roots." Christ came out of Jesse. However, Isa. 11:10 says that Christ is the root of Jesse, indicating that Jesse came out of Christ. Jesse was one who brought forth Christ, one who branched out Christ by being rooted in Christ.

Joagbaje:

As much as appreciate the effort you put in here. I still feel this thread will be more fruitful topically than verse by verse. Let's say we study a chapter Individually in a day or a week and matters arising are brought to the table for discussion. Eg. Questions observations and etc.

@ Everyone and Friends,

I hope to pause here at this stage and allow suggestions from Joagbaje's idea. Let's all contribute please. All need to combine efforts together to do this great project. We need contributions please and we go by most voted idea or suggestions. Thank you all

Happy weekend all.
Goshen I have read through the thread from beginning and there is really nothing much i can comment however the suggestion for topical study would enable one know each person's understanding of a particular topic/subject and trust me they are hundreds of topics we can discuss.
Thanks

goshen360:


In the genealogy of Adam no woman is recorded (Gen. 5:1-32), but in this genealogy of Christ five women are mentioned. Only one of these five was a chaste virgin — Mary, a descendant of the chosen race. Of her, Christ was directly born (v. 16). Among the rest — Tamar, Rahab, Ruth (v. 5), and Bathsheba, who had been the wife of Uriah (v. 6) — some were Gentiles, some were remarried, and three were even sinful — Tamar committed Inbreeding, Rahab was a LovePeddler, and Bathsheba committed adultery. This indicates that Christ is related not only to the Jews but also to the Gentiles, even to the sinful people, and is the kingly Savior of typical sinners. Tamar was Judah's daughter-in-law. Judah begot Pharez and Zarah of her by Inbreeding (Gen. 38:6-30). What an evil!

how come some people teach that women were not recognized in the genealogy of Jesus in the old testament?

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No women was mentioned in genealogy of first Adam, Gen. 5:1-32 meaning women are not considered as nobody then. When it comes to the second Adam, Christ, all kinds of people regardless of their background, gender, past and sins are included. Matthew account proves just that. God is the one who built and building this kingdom through Christ.

stepo707:

Happy weekend all.
Goshen I have read through the thread from beginning and there is really nothing much i can comment however the suggestion for topical study would enable one know each person's understanding of a particular topic/subject and trust me they are hundreds of topics we can discuss.
Thanks

Joe is saying, we can study on individual basis, each chapter, maybe per day or per week and then come here to discuss the chapter if there is something someone don't understand from the chapter being studied. We need each person to say specifically if you support chapter study on individual basis or we continue verse by verse. Thank you all.

I'm glad to see this thread, i hope it will be very helpful to the readers and the contributors, which i'm not going to be left behind, may the lord help us as we continue in Jesus name

JMOORE

We cannot apply give to unto ceasar, what belongs to ceasar in everything. Jesus was talking about paying taxes.

What if the government says no more christian broadcasting or decides to jail anyone that condemns homosexuality(some countries see speaking against homosexuality as a hate crime). will you apply give to ceasar here by obeying the laws that contradicts christian beliefs?

I WILL DO YOU ONE BETTER. 1 PETER 2 VS 13 For the Lord's sake submit yourselves to every human authority:,

Hey! for the law made nothing perfect; on the other hand, [there is the] bringing in of a better hope, through which we draw near to God. Heb. 7:19, NKJV

The laws stands except the sacrificial laws ISAIAH 45 VS 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return,

I am enjoying this... Lets preach it brothers...
If I may chip in, Jesus summarized the law into one word LOVE. Love for God and for our neighbours. The 10 laws as given by Moses can be divided into God and Man as well. The 1st 6 I think refer to God while the last 4 refers to our neighbours.
The beauty of the era of Grace and Truth is that, one word summarizes what our faith is all about. Just look at the question of who is my neighbour by the Lawyer, it captures pretty much what we ought to practise as Christians.
Get the word out for the world to see

Let us choose a topic per week and teach on it. A lot of people will learn from the topic. That is my opinion.

Interesting. I agree with Joagbaje that we should take it topic by topic. A new thread should be created for each topic.

goshen360: I have been thinking about this lately. The project is huge and time consuming but I came up with an idea that we (each one of us) can pull resources and knowledge together explaining, disagreeing and agreeing on our differences on bible explanation based on the most accepted explanation and truth here. Verse by Verse being explained or couple of verses put together and explained, then chapter by chapter. We can do this together instead of doing out thing separately. It will be amazing how we will move faster than expected.

I cannot do this project alone by myself considering the fact that, I might not be stable after some times. Hence, I decided to open it up to every bible teacher here on this forum. We can set the motion and any bible teacher here can go ahead teaching the truth. Questions can the directed to a teacher and anyone can answer with bible verses to back up his or her answers. In other words, I do not have the final teachings here. It is open to all bible teachers but we MUST go line by line, verse(s) by verse(s) and chapter by chapter. References can be made to old or new testament verses to explain a current verse being explained.

We can really progress and expose a lot of false teachings going on today in the body of Christ and spread sound biblical truth we learn here. I suggest we start with the New Testament. My reason is, the new testament is the old fulfilled. We can read the Old testament on our different level of studies in order to have a background to the new testament to share our thought and biblical truth here in relation to the new testament.

Friends, what do you think?

Is it only Christians who are welcomed? I am Agnostic but I do try to read my bible every day both as an exercise in Philosophy as well as a moral and social basis for living.

goshen360: I have been thinking about this lately. The project is huge and time consuming but I came up with an idea that we (each one of us) can pull resources and knowledge together explaining, disagreeing and agreeing on our differences on bible explanation based on the most accepted explanation and truth here. Verse by Verse being explained or couple of verses put together and explained, then chapter by chapter. We can do this together instead of doing out thing separately. It will be amazing how we will move faster than expected.

I cannot do this project alone by myself considering the fact that, I might not be stable after some times. Hence, I decided to open it up to every bible teacher here on this forum. We can set the motion and any bible teacher here can go ahead teaching the truth. Questions can the directed to a teacher and anyone can answer with bible verses to back up his or her answers. In other words, I do not have the final teachings here. It is open to all bible teachers but we MUST go line by line, verse(s) by verse(s) and chapter by chapter. References can be made to old or new testament verses to explain a current verse being explained.

We can really progress and expose a lot of false teachings going on today in the body of Christ and spread sound biblical truth we learn here. I suggest we start with the New Testament. My reason is, the new testament is the old fulfilled. We can read the Old testament on our different level of studies in order to have a background to the new testament to share our thought and biblical truth here in relation to the new testament.

Friends, what do you think?

Is it only Christians who are welcomed? I am Agnostic but I do try to read my bible every day both as an exercise in Philosophy as well as a moral and social basis for living.

Good Idea.
However, i think we should discuss TOPICs that come up in our daily lives e.g Giving, Fellowship, FOrgiveness. That way, we can reference scripture and have a more practical discussion otherwise, the thread will just look like a place for Spiro people.

_{Can someone tell SEun that this "change" is not for the better}

So far, many people are voting for topical studies. Let's wait to see more people contribute and that will help our decision. Shalom!

This is very interesting honestly,but i think it should be better if its A topic per week or something, God will strenghten all the participants ijn amen.

Ok, I created a poll for us to vote weather we should do topical studies, chapter by chapter, verse by verse or book by book. Thanks.

Sounds interesting
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I love dis.i stumbled on dis tru my fb page.what i wl say is dat d bible is complete.u can't do without some laws whilst sacrifial laws are nt followed.however,to do away wit some laws is somewhat suicidal coz u wil be hurtin urself...

I'm very much interested - Even if I don't post, I'll be following.
BTW, are we going to be dealing with only the new testament? I recently developed a great interest in the old testament, esp. in the person of Moses. Are we going to be touching that part?
Great idea, I must say.

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Many people are suggesting we do it topical studies and I have created a Poll to that effect. If we end up doing it topical, we might touch the person of Moses some day. Stay blessed.

This is really great. I would rather we do this verse by verse especially the book of Acts. We can take the Gospels and the Epistles chapter by chapter and take Revelation on topicals

Ok, If the Poll isn't working. Please kindly state here by comment how you wish the bible studies is done, topical studies, chapter by chapter, verse by verse or book by book. Thanks for all your comments. Your suggestions will help.