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|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by sunkoye: 7:57pm On May 29, 2012|
abi ooo...wat happens to university of Abuja dat looks a bit central or national. maka Y Lag?
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by werepeLeri: 8:15pm On May 29, 2012|
What the fu ck is in a name eediots? You need jump in the lagoon if you think this shouldnt be done. Time wasters. Do they own the institution? Students who have nothing to do, there are more issues to cry about in the school rather than a name change. Swagger Unilag ko, swagger Unilag ni.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by papatosibe: 8:18pm On May 29, 2012|
Ignorant post. What is fundamentally wrong with renaming UniLag after a man who paid the highest price so the rest of us mere mortals could enjoy democracy. American made democracy, that is.
Bill Clinton is pretty popular among democrats and democratic-leaning states.
Is Bill Clinton dead? Was Bill Clinton ever denied his mandate? Next time compare apples to apples, not apples to walnut.
Did anybody decide to rename Harvard after him?
Hrrvard and Unilag? For starters, Harvard is already named after someone, why chnage the name to another name? Secondly, Harvard is a private institution, Unilag is not. The FG can do whatever they want with their school. After all, he who pays the piper . . . you know the rest. GEJ is not renaming Covenant or Lagos Business School. He knows his bounds
The problem is that Nigerians enjoy mixing politics up into everything.
That is because politics is everything. Since you don't know, this is how people way smarter than you see politics:
Politics (from Greek politikos "of, for, or relating to citizens" as a term is generally applied to the art or science of running governmental or state affairs, including behavior within civil governments, but also applies to institutions, fields, and special interest groups such as the corporate, academic, and religious segments of society. It consists of "social relations involving authority or power" and to the methods and tactics used to formulate and apply policy.
As you can see from the above definition, politics to a great extent is involved in everything/decision we make.
That MKO was a great politician, etc, etc doesn't mean he needs to have a university named after him...
True. That said, you will agree with me there is nothing wrong naming a university after him, NO?
Let alone one of the oldest and most prestigious/popular universities in Nigeria.
GEJ is not setting a precedent. Ife, OOU, NAU, ABU, Uthman Dan fodio/ University of Sokoto , to name a just a few, have all gone though the same process. It is just a matter of time before UI is renamed.
Some of the finest Universities in North America were named after prominent individuals. Heaven did not fall because of that. The rioting students will eventually accept it and if not, they'd better start pooling their money together or better still their credit card points to fund their beloved Unilag henceforth.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by bestview: 8:21pm On May 29, 2012|
This is a welcome development and a good move by GEJ. I'm loving this president oo. Why do yorobas hate Abiola so much, even after taking bribe to hand him over to the ordinary almajiris to be slaughtered for sticking to his 'victory'
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by tete7000(): 8:27pm On May 29, 2012|
bayooooooo:I like this. What if all of us have woken up and found mko abiola univ instead of unilag what would it have matterd. Infact if that has been the case and the name is now to be unilag,we wouldhave still say no. For those who would be born in 50yrs this will not be an issue. There would neva hv been unilag.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by papatosibe: 8:28pm On May 29, 2012|
ekt_bear: If you like, make June 12th a national holiday.
The same thing happened to GWU, I never saw you protesting?
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by ugwuokeobum: 8:28pm On May 29, 2012|
The renaming of uni-lag after Moshood Abiola, one of the pioneering fathers of modern democracy should be embraced by the students, had it been this demonstration is happening in the northern state, the people from d west will tag it political insurgents or terrorism, they may even start calling Boko Haram that didn't do anything, those students should stop creating problem for themselves and for d nation, id they vandalise any property during this their demonstration, they will pay oh. great MAU! Great!!!
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Gbawe: 8:31pm On May 29, 2012|
Oh they are "Yoruba Kids" now? If Lagos is "no man's land" and everyone makes wild claims as to their population, how unintelligent and nauseatingly bigoted do you sound suggesting that these girls are Yoruba? Or is it just the case you concede automatically that Lagos is Yoruba when negativity is on the menu yet will be happy, on another thread, to say otherwise when the issue is about property/business ownership?
You folks are always falling over your untied shoelaces of bigotry and hatred you are indoctrinated with. "Yoruba Kids" indeed. Don't you see Yoruba written on their forehead. Only a silly bigot, when we all know the melting pot UNILAG really is, would say conclusively that these Ladies are Yoruba even as it does not matters if they are since every honest person will admit writing skill is generally on the wane everywhere in the world. Young Americans, Britons and the worldwide facebook/social networking generation write like this , as a universal problem, yet only your sort would make a problem of humanity an ethnic issue 'afflicting' Yorubas but never your ethnic group.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by tpia@: 8:31pm On May 29, 2012|
George Washington University
The George Washington University (GW, GWU, or George Washington) is a PRIVATE, coeducational comprehensive university located in Washington, D.C. in the United States. The university was chartered by an Act of Congress on February 9, 1821, as The Columbian College in the District of Columbia
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Originakalokalo: 8:32pm On May 29, 2012|
Contrary to what the majority beleive,GEJ tried to immortalize abiola.he knows that south west is critical for his election in 2015.he thought the yorubas will like his gesture,what he failed to realise is that unilag may not be the appropriate place to choose.he shuld have choosen somewhere else in the region.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by bestview: 8:40pm On May 29, 2012|
See mumu, UNILAG students cannot even compete in a mere debate from student from UNIZIK or UNN. No be this same unilag wey parents dey buy admission like macaroni? Unilag is good for garbage. It maybe melting pot in prostitution and show off which is not a hallmark of academic excellence
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by papatosibe: 8:47pm On May 29, 2012|
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Chyz*: 9:15pm On May 29, 2012|
Lets not tribalise this situation. UNILAG does not mean yoruba students. Stick to jonathan and his dirty politcking. This move alone, if not change seals the deal of his 2015 chances in the sw. He is defniitely not getting se or core north. Na wa for him.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Gbawe: 9:20pm On May 29, 2012|
Another indoctrinated bigot proves my point with his off-topic idiocy. The simple point remains that no one can claim to know the ethnic origin of some random students , in a picture, from a University in , by far, the most cosmopolitan State in Nigeria. I really don't know why, irrelevantly, you are talking about other Universities if not the usual need to satisfy the inferiority complex you are born with ,and will never shake off, that sees you wanting to compete with others everytime to validate your pitiful existence.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by jmaine: 9:21pm On May 29, 2012|
Kindly Shut up . . .Thank You
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by tonididdy: 9:41pm On May 29, 2012|
beleive it or not,this so called ''maulag'' will have little or no turn out of applicants next year...anytime this man jonah comes on air is to pull a smart one on nigerians...jan1st was fuel,democracy day now maulag...remember oct1st dey come...probably increased light bills
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by webbaba: 9:58pm On May 29, 2012|
Akanbi_edu: This may not be a plot but . . . . it is highly anticipated by political observers that if Jonathan wants to contest for 2015 presidential elections (most likely the case), he will try to destabilize the SW. This expectation is based on experience.TELL ME MORE OJARE i DEY GBADUN UR COMMENT tHIS FIT BE TRUE?
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by DaLover(m): 10:05pm On May 29, 2012|
Guy you are so on point.....
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by NorthSharp(m): 10:45pm On May 29, 2012|
denko: The Yorubas claimed to love MKO, they even celebrate june 12. This has vindicate IBB, the Yorubas do not and will not like themselves. This is not the first University that a president will name after an individual why all bad bele pipo for naija.
It is not fair or reasonable for anyone to accuse Yoruba individuals or groups of 'not liking themselves' because they oppose this ill-advised decision, just as it would be unfair and unreasonable for anyone to accuse the Igbos of 'not liking themselves' when they vehemently resist any idea of renaming the University of Nigeria, Nsukka, after ANY Igbo personality!
Zik and Ojukwu were arguably the two greatest Igbo leaders in the history of Nigeria, yet no FG could dare rename the 'University of Nigeria' after either of them, neither at their deaths nor subsequently!
In fact, the Igbos so much cherish the name 'University of Nigeria' that many of them would interpret any suggestion at renaming the university after ANYBODY as being a 'conspiracy' to deny the Igbos the prestige of having the only university in Nigeria that bears that unique name: 'University of Nigeria'.
To a lesser extent, the name 'University of Lagos' also enjoys similar prestige of being the only university that is so uniquely described as the university of Lagos; so apart from its excellent academic reputation, the university also enjoys being so uniquely associated with the most important, most popular, most vibrant city in our country - Lagos.!
So the questions that may come to mind are:
1. If the GEJ govt could not dare rename the UNN after even the GREATEST IGBO personality (Ujukwu) AT HIS DEATH RECENTLY; with all the apparently genuine respect and admiration president GEJ personally has for the late Ikemba as witnessed at the latter's funeral; and with all the brotherly and neighbourly goodwill that apparently exists between GEJ and the Igbos, then how come GEJ found it so imperative at this time to rename UNILAG after MKO Abiola?
2. Why would GEJ want to immortalize the name of the late MKO Abiola with the re-naming of one of the 5 first generation universities in Nigeria after him, yet he could not think of according the same respect and privilege to the late Ikemba, for whom he apparently has even much more respect?
3. Did the FG make proper consultations, with all the relevant stake-holders, before taking this step? How widely did they consult, if at all they did?
4. Could there be some people somewhere, not necessarily GEJ himself, who are not comfortable that UNILAG was the only university that is described as 'University of Lagos', therefore they want to see it so re-named, maybe just after anybody, or anything, as long as their ill-motivated goal is achieved?
I have immense respect for the late MKO Abiola, mainly for his well-known, and nationally spread, philanthropic work and for the prominent role he played, and the ultimate sacrifice he made, in ending military dictatorship in the country; yet as an alumnus of UNILAG, I do not support renaming it after him, for the same reason that the Igbos would resist any idea of renaming the UNN after anybody, no matter how much they respect that person!
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Gladmama: 11:31pm On May 29, 2012|
(More empty headed nonsense from the ignorant haters. If you don't like this administration go hug a transformer).
Ha! Nigerians are Evil sha, how can someone say this to another..... only God knows how they are or perhaps we should say Satan knows his own. We shall know who is who later.
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|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by careytommy(m): 12:14am On May 30, 2012|
You be Bros!
Infact, take one beer for my head.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by manny4life(m): 12:41am On May 30, 2012|
Like they say, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, hypothetically speaking, what if a SW, or Northerner becomes president and decides to rename a brand name school in the SE, how will many of my fellow s react? I've followed the arguments on here, and most seem valid while some IMO invalid.
These schools have made brand of their own, they stride to be the best, it's true we may have heroes in the community, or nation, however, there are certain things that should be left untouched. Tampering with a schools name that had little or nothing to do with the subject at hand is uncalled for.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by soapdish(f): 12:52am On May 30, 2012|
Τhe question really is- can an Institution that was created by an Act be unilaterally changed by an executive fiat. Τhe answer is NO. It takes another Act of Τhe National Assembly for this illegality to be legal. Due process was not followed and the fact that the Federal government funds the institution does not change the position of the law.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by papatosibe: 12:55am On May 30, 2012|
manny4life: Like they say, what is good for the goose is good for the gander, hypothetically speaking, what if a SW, or Northerner becomes president and decides to rename a brand name school in the SE, how will many of my fellow s react? I've followed the arguments on here, and most seem valid while some IMO invalid.
Obviously, GEJ thought there was a reason to change the name. It is no big deal. Columbian University changed its name to The George Washington University after almost 100 years in existence. So GEJ has done nothing out of the ordinary here. This is not the first time a sitting president will change a school's name, it wont be the last and I doubt it will be in the middle; many more schools will be renamed in the future. SO whats the noise about? Schools dont make people, People make schools famous. Cambridge did not make Newton. Newton made Oxford&Cambridge famous. No one would know University of Zurich if not for Einstein. Its just a name change. Its not as if GEJ has decided to stop funding the school with oyel money.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by ekt_bear: 1:35am On May 30, 2012|
flexya: Are there no lawyers, previous or present legislators on this Forum? The University of Lagos would av been created by an Act of Parliament/National Assembly. In that law would av been a section that reads something like, "It shall be known as the University of Lagos". Any deviation or proposed change 2 that name would require an amendment 2 that law. What GEJ or the executive av done(or proposed 2 av done) is ultra vires (beyond their power) and invalid in the eye of the law. Any 200 level law student should know this and can approach the court. Simple. Why all the stress and protest?
I hope very much that you are correct.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by ekt_bear: 1:42am On May 30, 2012|
Nevertheless, Unilag tends to be ranked quite a bit higher than Unizik or UNN, no?
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by High_Chief(m): 2:20am On May 30, 2012|
These Yoruba leaders sold this same man to their Northern masters and had him killed, now there is a noble gesture to name a university after his name and they are fighting. Trust me Tinubu might even be behind all these, cos dude is always full of jealous, the way he envies Femo lala(Awo). MAU has come to stay. Punto
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by igbo boy(m): 4:25am On May 30, 2012|
for someone that claims to be living in yankee this your analogy na wa o...Yankee don pass our level of reasoning, because clinton popular will not make any university change its name to his name. Highest they can name of of their schools(e.g school of business to his name or create a fund/endowment in his name finito).
democracy, governance, politics et al are universal but the apporach and bottom mechnanics are never universal (they tend to be unique based on social/cultural/religious norms)
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Ileke-IdI: 4:30am On May 30, 2012|
Did this ayamantaga just make a non-tribal post?
One would think Yoruba has been stamped on his brain with the way he makes tribalistic posts against the Yorubas. It must be an err.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by Ileke-IdI: 4:32am On May 30, 2012|
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But ofcourse, Ileke-IdI just posted, no? Stalkers aplenty, expecting Yeske! to make his own stalkish post.
|Re: Jonathan's Plot To Disunite The Southwest by ekt_bear: 4:36am On May 30, 2012|
The point is that institutions are (or at least, should be) greater than men.
You shouldn't throw away the history of an old institution, one of the greatest names in Nigerian education and arguably African education for any individual.
It is a crude thing to do. Disrespectful to the students, the alumni, and the school's history.
Regarding "this your analogy na wa o"..well, this is sort of a universal, general principle.
When I illustrate universal principles with specific examples like Clinton/Harvard, it sometimes surprises me when you guys focus on the specific example rather than the universal principle I'm emphasizing...
If you disagree with this principle of "institutions greater than men", sure, fine. But if you agree with it, then shouldn't it also apply for Nigerian institutions?
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