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Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Eziachi: 6:13pm On Jun 02, 2012
lanre_front: I swear to God, Nairaland maybe the biggest Nigerian forum, but it is also now the worst: full of i.dio.ts and people who obviously lack any intellect. That is why I've stopped posting on Nairaland since like 4 months ago. But I just have to say something now.

I'm sorry to say this, but NIGERIANS ARE STILL GOING TO SUFFER A LOT. It seems as if all the youths have been brainwashed and cannot use their brains anymore.

Imagine, every evidence concerning Boko haram so-much-so points towards PDP. Even Jonathan said his goverment has been infiltrated by Bokoharam. Are CPC members part of Jonatha's goverment; Jonthan's goverment is 99% composed of PDP. All the politicians that have been arrested or questioned by SS are PDP party members. The National Security Adviser said in an important televised South-South conference that PDP is Bokoharam, and even went to give a detailed meaningful insightful explanation. Yet f.o.o.l.s of Nairaland conveneintly ignores all this and keep on shouting Buhari is chief sponsorer of Boko-harm.

What is wrong with the youth of today that they can so easily be brainswashed even when conspicious evidence points in the opposite direction.

In criminalites that borders mainly on finacials gains, the standard practise all over the world is to "follow the money" and it leads to the perpetrators of the crimes. Therefore in criminalities like Boko-haram which everyone on this forum has declared is seeking finacial gain, all you have to do is "follow the power" (power is the currency of politics) and it will lead to the perpetrators of the crimes.

If Jonathan is successfully prevented from running in 2015 presidential elections, where does the power go to? Does it go to Buhari of CPC? Or does it goes to the Northern elements of ACN or APGA?

I beleive everyone knows the anwer. The only place where the "power" goes is to the Northern Elements of PDP. Then why are Nairalanders brainswahing themseles with the propangada of the elites, who even have some of their agents working on forums like Nairaland.

I sense that Nigerinsa will still suffer a lot because they have not learnt any lesson. Otherwise, I do you explain a nation whose populace complain of so much suffering, yet keep on voting the same PDP party every four years; a party who has done nothing but worsened their lives in the last 12 years. The problem of Nigerian is Nigerians. And O boy, unless there is a change in this dogmatic attitude, more suffering, debasement, dehumisation etc. are still coming their way.

I was at a gathering recently and guys were talking about the 3 trillion naira fuel subsidy scam of Jonathan's Presidency (don't even get me started; it's impossible to spend 3 triiion naira for something 247 billion was budgeted for without the knowledge of the President) and an educated south-south guy just shouted, "Abeg make una shut up there, didn't Obasanjo chop 16 billions dollars on the power-sector". At that point I just had to join the discussion and I asked him: if Obasanjo chopped 16 billions dollars, is anyone commending him for it? Do you know the greatest condemnation of Obasanjo during & after his Administraion came from the Southwest. Then are you saying if Obasanjo chopped 16 billion dollars, the Jonathan should be allowed to squander 32 billion dollars?

Nigeria youths, wise up; among the elites, there is no ethnicity. They are one. Ethnicity is something they only use to manipulates brain.less Nigerians to achieve or protect their selfish goals

People need to shun sentiments and ethnicity; search for the truth and speak the truth in all matters, otherwise u go suffer tire.

The truth is, whether you admit it or not, Jonathan is not on the side of the people; he is on the side of the corrupted, selfish and greedy elite. The truth is Jonathan is totally corrupt. He is not a victim of some cabal; he is part and parcel of the cabal.

The truth is Nigeria's problem is not power, education, poverty, bad roads; Nigeria's problem wicch is the origin & source of our every other problem is CORRUPTION.

The truth is Jonathan's Administraton cannot do anything about corruption because Jonathan's Aministration is one of the most corrupt in Nigeria's history. In just one year, it had perpetrated a fraud of almost 3000 billion (3 trillion) in just one sector of the economy.

Do Nigerians youth actally know what 3 trillon is? That money is enough to tranform every sector of Nigerian life: from heath sector to education, to roads, to railways, power etc, just mention it. Yet Jonathan who promised in his inaugural speech "to always put the common man first" in everything he does perpetrated this wickedness on the common people.

Do you know that right, Jonathan's Aministration is still looking for a way to further increase fuel price. Therefore before it can do this, Jonathan's Administration is looking for a way to infiltrate and destroy the unity of the NLC. But God won't allow them to succeed.

Hvae u forgooten so soon how so many people defended the subsidey removal saying it was for the good of Nigerians. Even Jonathan himself said if the subsdiy was not removed that Nigerian Economy will collaspe in 3 months. Now with the fuel subsidy report, we know better.

Then concerning Buhari, please people, why not make your reseach about this man, and not just swallow the propangada that goverment agents are spreding all over about him.

The truth is that the Nigerian elites, irrespective of tribe are afraid of this man coming to power. But now they don't even have to lift their hands gainst him because Nierian youths are already doing their job for them.

Please, Nairalanders, Nigerian youth, go and develop yourself a brain. If you don't have a brian, borrow one. If you can't borrow one, buy one. If you can't buy one, go and steal one. Whatever you do, by all means get yourself a brain AND USE IT FOR GOD'S SAKE.
Thank you, you continue from where I left off,
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Eziachi: 6:20pm On Jun 02, 2012
jmaine:

Your lying attempt is appalling,weak, and so hilarious . . . .. Buhari was indeed a good guest . . . You even said he refused to play ball with the above [size=14pt]including Abacha[/size] [/b]on your list . . .

Am expecting a better response from you Eziachi . .please come out better next time . . .The above is a weak attempt at dispelling the fact that Buhari laid the foundation on which IBB used to perpetuate himself for 8 years . . . .

[b]A "guest" indeed, someone who has simply refused to allow or support others to contest in his stead . . .you can't twist this one . . .
Like I said before, spreading lies about anybody for the longest time doesn't one day makes it the truth. People like you have been brainwashed by their own tormentors and they are walking around like zombies wasting useful oxygen.
You can continued being a prisoner of your self imposed prison of lack of conscience, that is up to you or you can change like the Egyptians and make a change.
Someone made this bolded quote above, you can do well and take his advise.- Nairalanders, Nigerian youth, go and develop yourself a brain. If you don't have a brian, borrow one. If you can't borrow one, buy one. If you can't buy one, go and steal one. Whatever you do, by all means get yourself a brain AND USE IT

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Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by jmaine: 6:38pm On Jun 02, 2012
Eziachi:
Like I said before, spreading lies about anybody for the longest time doesn't one day makes it the truth. People like you have been brainwashed by their own tormentors and they are walking around like zombies wasting useful oxygen.
You can continued being a prisoner of your self imposed prison of lack of conscience, that is up to you or you can change like the Egyptians and make a change.
Someone made this bolded quote above, you can do well and take his advise.- Nairalanders, Nigerian youth, go and develop yourself a brain. If you don't have a brian, borrow one. If you can't borrow one, buy one. If you can't buy one, go and steal one. Whatever you do, by all means get yourself a brain AND USE IT

The usual ediotic squeals from those who have nothing meaningful to dispel straight forward jabs sorry questions . . .[size=14pt]next time don't come here running your mouth trying to dissociate Buhari from the Coup which toppled the second republic . . [/size].

You are one of those few ediots with a warped mentality, who feels supporting a deceitful coup plotter, a pseudo democrat, who feels and think less of everyone else equates to wisdom . . .

You are very silly cool . . .and i meant every word of it . . .
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 7:07pm On Jun 02, 2012
lanre_front: I swear to God, Nairaland maybe the biggest Nigerian forum, but it is also now the worst: full of i.dio.ts and people who obviously lack any intellect. That is why I've stopped posting on Nairaland since like 4 months ago. But I just have to say something now.

I'm sorry to say this, but NIGERIANS ARE STILL GOING TO SUFFER A LOT. It seems as if all the youths have been brainwashed and cannot use their brains anymore.

Imagine, every evidence concerning Boko haram so-much-so points towards PDP. Even Jonathan said his goverment has been infiltrated by Bokoharam. Are CPC members part of Jonatha's goverment; Jonthan's goverment is 99% composed of PDP. All the politicians that have been arrested or questioned by SS are PDP party members. The National Security Adviser said in an important televised South-South conference that PDP is Bokoharam, and even went to give a detailed meaningful insightful explanation. Yet f.o.o.l.s of Nairaland conveneintly ignores all this and keep on shouting Buhari is chief sponsorer of Boko-harm.

What is wrong with the youth of today that they can so easily be brainswashed even when conspicious evidence points in the opposite direction.

In criminalites that borders mainly on finacials gains, the standard practise all over the world is to "follow the money" and it leads to the perpetrators of the crimes. Therefore in criminalities like Boko-haram which everyone on this forum has declared is seeking finacial gain, all you have to do is "follow the power" (power is the currency of politics) and it will lead to the perpetrators of the crimes.

If Jonathan is successfully prevented from running in 2015 presidential elections, where does the power go to? Does it go to Buhari of CPC? Or does it goes to the Northern elements of ACN or APGA?

I beleive everyone knows the anwer. The only place where the "power" goes is to the Northern Elements of PDP. Then why are Nairalanders brainswahing themseles with the propangada of the elites, who even have some of their agents working on forums like Nairaland.

I sense that Nigerinsa will still suffer a lot because they have not learnt any lesson. Otherwise, I do you explain a nation whose populace complain of so much suffering, yet keep on voting the same PDP party every four years; a party who has done nothing but worsened their lives in the last 12 years. The problem of Nigerian is Nigerians. And O boy, unless there is a change in this dogmatic attitude, more suffering, debasement, dehumisation etc. are still coming their way.

I was at a gathering recently and guys were talking about the 3 trillion naira fuel subsidy scam of Jonathan's Presidency (don't even get me started; it's impossible to spend 3 triiion naira for something 247 billion was budgeted for without the knowledge of the President) and an educated south-south guy just shouted, "Abeg make una shut up there, didn't Obasanjo chop 16 billions dollars on the power-sector". At that point I just had to join the discussion and I asked him: if Obasanjo chopped 16 billions dollars, is anyone commending him for it? Do you know the greatest condemnation of Obasanjo during & after his Administraion came from the Southwest. Then are you saying if Obasanjo chopped 16 billion dollars, the Jonathan should be allowed to squander 32 billion dollars?

Nigeria youths, wise up; among the elites, there is no ethnicity. They are one. Ethnicity is something they only use to manipulates brain.less Nigerians to achieve or protect their selfish goals

People need to shun sentiments and ethnicity; search for the truth and speak the truth in all matters, otherwise u go suffer tire.

The truth is, whether you admit it or not, Jonathan is not on the side of the people; he is on the side of the corrupted, selfish and greedy elite. The truth is Jonathan is totally corrupt. He is not a victim of some cabal; he is part and parcel of the cabal.

The truth is Nigeria's problem is not power, education, poverty, bad roads; Nigeria's problem wicch is the origin & source of our every other problem is CORRUPTION.

The truth is Jonathan's Administraton cannot do anything about corruption because Jonathan's Aministration is one of the most corrupt in Nigeria's history. In just one year, it had perpetrated a fraud of almost 3000 billion (3 trillion) in just one sector of the economy.

Do Nigerians youth actally know what 3 trillon is? That money is enough to tranform every sector of Nigerian life: from heath sector to education, to roads, to railways, power etc, just mention it. Yet Jonathan who promised in his inaugural speech "to always put the common man first" in everything he does perpetrated this wickedness on the common people.

Do you know that right, Jonathan's Aministration is still looking for a way to further increase fuel price. Therefore before it can do this, Jonathan's Administration is looking for a way to infiltrate and destroy the unity of the NLC. But God won't allow them to succeed.

Hvae u forgooten so soon how so many people defended the subsidey removal saying it was for the good of Nigerians. Even Jonathan himself said if the subsdiy was not removed that Nigerian Economy will collaspe in 3 months. Now with the fuel subsidy report, we know better.

Then concerning Buhari, please people, why not make your reseach about this man, and not just swallow the propangada that goverment agents are spreding all over about him.

The truth is that the Nigerian elites, irrespective of tribe are afraid of this man coming to power. But now they don't even have to lift their hands gainst him because Nierian youths are already doing their job for them.

Please, Nairalanders, Nigerian youth, go and develop yourself a brain. If you don't have a brian, borrow one. If you can't borrow one, buy one. If you can't buy one, go and steal one. Whatever you do, by all means get yourself a brain AND USE IT FOR GOD'S SAKE.

I understand what you are saying and to some extent I do agree (except little things like the notion that 1 trillion naira can tranform all aspects of the economy which is seriously stretching things a bit).

However I think you should try and understand something. PDP wins elections because it is better organised. Simple. There is no point shouting in support of an alternative if the oposition is not going to start building the ground works for long term goals as opposed to just winning elections. And you have to also understand that not everybody sees what you see when they look at Buhari. You might see liberator but many people see a dictator and by extension a return to a past best forgotten, and technically speaking, there is a history to support that narrative no matter how myopic you think it is.

What always boggles the mind is how difficult it is to thrust to the fore a candidate without such a history, or are we really doomed to repeat the past forever? I am all for getting PDP out of power because I really do think some time in the opposition will do them good, but I guess right now, I am more with making a break from the past. PDP belongs to that past but so does Buhari (in my opinion). Democracy as always is about choice. So if you keep giving me Buhari or a PDP candidate, I will keep choosing the lesser of those two evils according to my perception, and being asked to make a choice based on that template hardly ever inspires the zealous and enthusiastic patriotism that might do the nation some good.

In my opinion for whatever little it is worth in a sea of voices, Nigeria simply needs a clean break. Period. That person does not necessarily have to be a saint but someone that can get things done, and when that person declares, Nigerians would have to be willing to do the hard groundwork required to get that person in. But unfortunately, from experience, it seems no one takes anything seriously till the year of elections, then express shock and horror when they don't win against a PDP machinery that spreads out into the rural areas. I mean, COME ON! The work should have started a few years ago. Question though, has it even started now as we speak? To put it in plain terms, Nigerians need to get more involved in the task of governance. Because a lot of this requires a campaign of enlightenment, work should have already begun.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by lanrefront1(m): 7:38pm On Jun 02, 2012
@ Skyblue

Thanks for your comments. The figure being talked about is 3 trillion naira, not 1 trillion; and yes 3000 billion naira is enough enough make a significant tranformation (that is an impact evryone can see) in all those sectors. It's more than half the entire budget of 2011, both capital and recurrent expenditure inclusive.

If spent without corruption, it's at least enough to say bye to power outages, provide good raods and make impacts in the sectord that matters. I'm not saying it will transform the country to Germany or France.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 7:49pm On Jun 02, 2012
lanre_front: @ Skyblue

Thanks for your comments. The figure being talked about is 3 trillion naira, not 1 trillion; and yes 3000 billion naira is enough enough make a significant tranformation (that is an impact evryone can see) in all those sectors. It's more than half the entire budget of 2011, both capital and recurrent expenditure inclusive.

If spent without corruption, it's at least enough to say bye to power outages, provide good raods and make impacts in the sectord that matters. I'm not saying it will transform the country to Germany or France.

Don't want to dwell too much on this. Let us not even downplay it, 3 trillion naira is a lot of money which if used diligently can do A LOT. No doubting that. But let us not stretch things. Railway, fixing power, health, good road networks around the country, etc, CANNOT be fixed with what is the equivalent of about $20billion. Power alone is quite capital intensive. Which is fine, because I don't necessarily expect government to be doing all the fixing, but the private sector to get involved as well. Nigeria has a huge market. We are a long way away from having efficiently run governments like that of Singapore or Hong Kong that can run such businesses with limited waste.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by dasparrow: 7:50pm On Jun 02, 2012
@Post

Let Buhari keep weeping. We have all wept for Nigeria at one point in time or another. It's nothing new. Buhari should make a difference in his immediate community or environment instead. He can open up an adult learning community center or a vocational school to teach all those young unemployed and/or uneducated boys and girls a trade so that they can make an honest living and stay off the streets. In addition, Buhari should reach out to other Nigerians in non northern states. This way, he can win the hearts of other Nigerian ethnicities and states not part of the core north. By 2015, he might have enough followers all around the country that may be willing to give him their votes should he contest. I mean, who knows? Its possible.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Obijulius: 11:42am On Jun 03, 2012
Mr. Buhari (if the internet is not Haram then u must use it and will hopefully get this message)
Please make ur tears useful by joining the Red Crescent, partaking in relief efforts wherever Boko Haram strikes.
With less than 30 yrs to ur joining ur forebears /before Parkinson's takes d better part of you, this might finally help redeem ur damaged rep.
And all u his supporters, make urselves usefull too.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 12:45pm On Jun 03, 2012
lanre_front: I swear to God, Nairaland maybe the biggest Nigerian forum, but it is also now the worst: full of i.dio.ts and people who obviously lack any intellect. That is why I've stopped posting on Nairaland since like 4 months ago. But I just have to say something now.

I'm sorry to say this, but NIGERIANS ARE STILL GOING TO SUFFER A LOT. It seems as if all the youths have been brainwashed and cannot use their brains anymore.

Imagine, every evidence concerning Boko haram so-much-so points towards PDP. Even Jonathan said his goverment has been infiltrated by Bokoharam. Are CPC members part of Jonatha's goverment; Jonthan's goverment is 99% composed of PDP. All the politicians that have been arrested or questioned by SS are PDP party members. The National Security Adviser said in an important televised South-South conference that PDP is Bokoharam, and even went to give a detailed meaningful insightful explanation. Yet f.o.o.l.s of Nairaland conveneintly ignores all this and keep on shouting Buhari is chief sponsorer of Boko-harm.

What is wrong with the youth of today that they can so easily be brainswashed even when conspicious evidence points in the opposite direction.

In criminalites that borders mainly on finacials gains, the standard practise all over the world is to "follow the money" and it leads to the perpetrators of the crimes. Therefore in criminalities like Boko-haram which everyone on this forum has declared is seeking finacial gain, all you have to do is "follow the power" (power is the currency of politics) and it will lead to the perpetrators of the crimes.

If Jonathan is successfully prevented from running in 2015 presidential elections, where does the power go to? Does it go to Buhari of CPC? Or does it goes to the Northern elements of ACN or APGA?

I beleive everyone knows the anwer. The only place where the "power" goes is to the Northern Elements of PDP. Then why are Nairalanders brainswahing themseles with the propangada of the elites, who even have some of their agents working on forums like Nairaland.

I sense that Nigerinsa will still suffer a lot because they have not learnt any lesson. Otherwise, I do you explain a nation whose populace complain of so much suffering, yet keep on voting the same PDP party every four years; a party who has done nothing but worsened their lives in the last 12 years. The problem of Nigerian is Nigerians. And O boy, unless there is a change in this dogmatic attitude, more suffering, debasement, dehumisation etc. are still coming their way.

I was at a gathering recently and guys were talking about the 3 trillion naira fuel subsidy scam of Jonathan's Presidency (don't even get me started; it's impossible to spend 3 triiion naira for something 247 billion was budgeted for without the knowledge of the President) and an educated south-south guy just shouted, "Abeg make una shut up there, didn't Obasanjo chop 16 billions dollars on the power-sector". At that point I just had to join the discussion and I asked him: if Obasanjo chopped 16 billions dollars, is anyone commending him for it? Do you know the greatest condemnation of Obasanjo during & after his Administraion came from the Southwest. Then are you saying if Obasanjo chopped 16 billion dollars, the Jonathan should be allowed to squander 32 billion dollars?

Nigeria youths, wise up; among the elites, there is no ethnicity. They are one. Ethnicity is something they only use to manipulates brain.less Nigerians to achieve or protect their selfish goals

People need to shun sentiments and ethnicity; search for the truth and speak the truth in all matters, otherwise u go suffer tire.

The truth is, whether you admit it or not, Jonathan is not on the side of the people; he is on the side of the corrupted, selfish and greedy elite. The truth is Jonathan is totally corrupt. He is not a victim of some cabal; he is part and parcel of the cabal.

The truth is Nigeria's problem is not power, education, poverty, bad roads; Nigeria's problem wicch is the origin & source of our every other problem is CORRUPTION.

The truth is Jonathan's Administraton cannot do anything about corruption because Jonathan's Aministration is one of the most corrupt in Nigeria's history. In just one year, it had perpetrated a fraud of almost 3000 billion (3 trillion) in just one sector of the economy.

Do Nigerians youth actally know what 3 trillon is? That money is enough to tranform every sector of Nigerian life: from heath sector to education, to roads, to railways, power etc, just mention it. Yet Jonathan who promised in his inaugural speech "to always put the common man first" in everything he does perpetrated this wickedness on the common people.

Do you know that right, Jonathan's Aministration is still looking for a way to further increase fuel price. Therefore before it can do this, Jonathan's Administration is looking for a way to infiltrate and destroy the unity of the NLC. But God won't allow them to succeed.

Hvae u forgooten so soon how so many people defended the subsidey removal saying it was for the good of Nigerians. Even Jonathan himself said if the subsdiy was not removed that Nigerian Economy will collaspe in 3 months. Now with the fuel subsidy report, we know better.

Then concerning Buhari, please people, why not make your reseach about this man, and not just swallow the propangada that goverment agents are spreding all over about him.

The truth is that the Nigerian elites, irrespective of tribe are afraid of this man coming to power. But now they don't even have to lift their hands gainst him because Nierian youths are already doing their job for them.

Please, Nairalanders, Nigerian youth, go and develop yourself a brain. If you don't have a brain, borrow one. If you can't borrow one, buy one. If you can't buy one, go and steal one. Whatever you do, by all means get yourself a brain AND USE IT FOR GOD'S SAKE.


Comon man, you claim that Nlers have no brains and that was why you you stopped posting on NL for 4 months, I went tru your post and its exactly the same thing that 90% of Nlers say...you haven't said anything differently, you are exactly in line with what majority of Nlers say, so why are they considered brainless and you are not? People like me and Beaf are amongst the few saying that the structure of the country is what is leading to corruption, corruption is the symptom and not the problem.

One thing that amazes me is that GEJ and DAM benefited so much from the subsidy that they decided to remove it..I really dont understand why they decided to steer up the hornets nest...they could simply have allowed the common man to enjoy his =N=65 per liter while they quietly syphon billions of dollars into their private accounts...

Please tell us the exact different between PDP, ACN or CPC? ok, PDP has not performed on the national level for the past 12 years, but why trying to sell ACN or CPC to us as better substitutes? How has AD/ACN performed in the SW states and LGAs they control for the past 9 years? 90% of the CPC member are former PDP members who were sidelined in PDP and this is what you show us as an alternative? common guy...better come up with something better or go back into retirement...
How has buhari managed the affairs of the CPC? how have CPC controlled local governments performed? have you heard of him pushing for sanctions on corrupt and erring CPC officials, have CPC or ACN controlled lgas started being creative in wealth generation? the big answer...is no...instead the focus is how to get to the center for control of oil funds...

Fighting corruption is a lot more than pursuing corrupt people all over the place..believe it or not, for me what is more fundamental is removal of the systems that encourage corruption...if you are not bright enuf to see that then how can you even criticize the government constructively
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 12:53pm On Jun 03, 2012
Eziachi:
Repeating the same lie cannot eventually make it the truth. Buhari did not and never overthrew SHAGARI. It is a fact. He was a guest. When those that overthrew Shagari (IBB, David Mark, Dogonyaro, Useni, Abacha, Ayuba, Adisa, Onoja, Vatsa etc) got tired of him not playing the usual ball of self enrichment of the coup booty, they came back to take what is theres and hence Buhari did not fight and peacefully went back to his Daura and live a quiet life.
You well so? So buhari is just a tearful innocent man in the whole political seen, has Buhari ever criticized Abacha?
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 1:06pm On Jun 03, 2012
Sky Blue:

I understand what you are saying and to some extent I do agree (except little things like the notion that 1 trillion naira can tranform all aspects of the economy which is seriously stretching things a bit).

However I think you should try and understand something. PDP wins elections because it is better organised. Simple. There is no point shouting in support of an alternative if the oposition is not going to start building the ground works for long term goals as opposed to just winning elections. And you have to also understand that not everybody sees what you see when they look at Buhari. You might see liberator but many people see a dictator and by extension a return to a past best forgotten, and technically speaking, there is a history to support that narrative no matter how myopic you think it is.

What always boggles the mind is how difficult it is to thrust to the fore a candidate without such a history, or are we really doomed to repeat the past forever? I am all for getting PDP out of power because I really do think some time in the opposition will do them good, but I guess right now, I am more with making a break from the past. PDP belongs to that past but so does Buhari (in my opinion). Democracy as always is about choice. So if you keep giving me Buhari or a PDP candidate, I will keep choosing the lesser of those two evils according to my perception, and being asked to make a choice based on that template hardly ever inspires the zealous and enthusiastic patriotism that might do the nation some good.

In my opinion for whatever little it is worth in a sea of voices, Nigeria simply needs a clean break. Period. That person does not necessarily have to be a saint but someone that can get things done, and when that person declares, Nigerians would have to be willing to do the hard groundwork required to get that person in. But unfortunately, from experience, it seems no one takes anything seriously till the year of elections, then express shock and horror when they don't win against a PDP machinery that spreads out into the rural areas. I mean, COME ON! The work should have started a few years ago. Question though, has it even started now as we speak? To put it in plain terms, Nigerians need to get more involved in the task of governance. Because a lot of this requires a campaign of enlightenment, work should have already begun.

@ Bold, getting Nigerians more involved in the governance, fundamentally can a people without the pipe dictate the tune? i.e State and LGA governments dont look to their populace for sources of funds, so fvck them
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 1:15pm On Jun 03, 2012
DaLover:


Comon man, you claim that Nlers have no brains and that was why you you stopped posting on NL for 4 months, I went tru your post and its exactly the same thing that 90% of Nlers say...you haven't said anything differently, you are exactly in line with what majority of Nlers say, so why are they considered brainless and you are not? People like me and Beaf are amongst the few saying that the structure of the country is what is leading to corruption, corruption is the symptom and not the problem.

One thing that amazes me is that GEJ and DAM benefited so much from the subsidy that they decided to remove it..I really dont understand why they decided to steer up the hornets nest...they could simply have allowed the common man to enjoy his =N=65 per liter while they quietly syphon billions of dollars into their private accounts...

Please tell us the exact different between PDP, ACN or CPC? ok, PDP has not performed on the national level for the past 12 years, but why trying to sell ACN or CPC to us as better substitutes? How has AD/ACN performed in the SW states and LGAs they control for the past 9 years? 90% of the CPC member are former PDP members who were sidelined in PDP and this is what you show us as an alternative? common guy...better come up with something better or go back into retirement...
How has buhari managed the affairs of the CPC? how have CPC controlled local governments performed? have you heard of him pushing for sanctions on corrupt and erring CPC officials, have CPC or ACN controlled lgas started being creative in wealth generation? the big answer...is no...instead the focus is how to get to the center for control of oil funds...

Fighting corruption is a lot more than pursuing corrupt people all over the place..believe it or not, for me what is more fundamental is removal of the systems that encourage corruption...if you are not bright enuf to see that then how can you even criticize the government constructively

. . . . . . . .? ? ? Because PDP has not performed, that is your answer. I am all for finding a viable alternative, and I would find it ridiculous to ask people in states where PDP governors have performed to switch party just because. But analyse the essence of what you are saying in that paragraph that contains the part in bold. We are to relax and give PDP another four years for what exactly? A job well done? What on earth are you talking about what other parties have done with what local governments they control? In a country like Nigeria with an overbearing and all powerful federal government, you think that is not a disingenious argument to make? Leave other parties out of this for a sec. The question is has PDP failed Nigeria or not. If yes, what do we do about it. That is the issue. The fact that we unfortunately have few alternatives to pick from does not warrant trying to sell manure as perfume.

Its like someone asking you: Did person A crash the car, and you now saying "Well person F can also crash the car". What has person A got to do with person F?

As far as the federal government is concerned PDP is a failed party. Period!! We need viable alternatives so those guys can be thrown under the bus in the next presidential elections and learn from some time in the opposition. This is about the fact that every election we keep hearing the same tired old - I will give you light, I will give you water, I will give you road. Are you not ashamed? In a country as desperate as Nigeria I just don't get the attraction with partisan outlooks. Everyone in the country is in the same pile of crap, what good does being partisan get us? That is one thing I still find irritating about American politics. If PDP has failed say it has failed. What are you exactly trying to defend?
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 1:43pm On Jun 03, 2012
Sky Blue:

. . . . . . . .? ? ? Because PDP has not performed, that is your answer. I am all for finding a viable alternative, and I would find it ridiculous to ask people in states where PDP governors have performed to switch party just because. But analyse the essence of what you are saying in that paragraph that contains the part in bold. We are to relax and give PDP another four years for what exactly? A job well done? What on earth are you talking about what other parties have done with what local governments they control? In a country like Nigeria with an overbearing and all powerful federal government, you think that is not a disingenious argument to make? Leave other parties out of this for a sec. The question is has PDP failed Nigeria or not. If yes, what do we do about it. That is the issue. The fact that we unfortunately have few alternatives to pick from does not warrant trying to sell manure as perfume.

Its like someone asking you: Did person A crash the car, and you now saying "Well person F can also crash the car". What has person A got to do with person F?

As far as the federal government is concerned PDP is a failed party. Period!! We need viable alternatives so those guys can be thrown under the bus in the next presidential elections and learn from some time in the opposition. This is about the fact that every election we keep hearing the same tired old - I will give you light, I will give you water, I will give you road. Are you not ashamed? In a country as desperate as Nigeria I just don't get the attraction with partisan outlooks. Everyone in the country is in the same pile of crap, what good does being partisan get us? That is one thing I still find irritating about American politics. If PDP has failed say it has failed. What are you exactly trying to defend?

You totally get me wrong....
First I took a swipe at those proposing ethnic parties as alternatives to the PDP, because
a- they are ethnic in configuration
b- They have not performed at state or local level, or even simple organization of their parties.


second, my alternative is to re-organize the entire political set up...
This is because as presently constituted non of the actors on the political scene can take us out of this quagmire, you firhtly mentioned that the FG is too powerful....should that be the case? On this site Mr. Beaf has asked many times if we are aware that we voted in LGA chairmen and Governors?
All we seem to want to do is to criticize PDP and GEJ without realizing that we hold the key by thinking differently..
Changing the system, implies the following
1-Stop sharing funds to the states and LGAs, as wicked as this may sound...it has to happen...
2-re-organise your political landscape to deal with current realities...unicameral legislative assembly, self driven states, senators salaries paid by their constituents etc
3-No more blanket free stuff, All have to go, as these are the major avenues to perpetuate corruption..fuel subsidy, education subsidy, transport subsidy, agric subsidy etc...we have to task ourselves to come up with innovative ways of practicing welfare that dont expose the government, and these should even be at the local government level...most times
4-No more govt run businesses, another major source of corruption and in efficiency...membership driven parties, not government parties

You can never hear Buhari talking about these fundamental concepts...instead he is crying that he lost the opportunity to manage oil funds the second time...
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 1:58pm On Jun 03, 2012
DaLover:

You totally get me wrong....
First I took a swipe at those proposing ethnic parties as alternatives to the PDP, because
a- they are ethnic in configuration
b- They have not performed at state or local level, or even simple organization of their parties.


second, my alternative is to re-organize the entire political set up...
This is because as presently constituted non of the actors on the political scene can take us out of this quagmire, you firhtly mentioned that the FG is too powerful....should that be the case? On this site Mr. Beaf has asked many times if we are aware that we voted in LGA chairmen and Governors?
All we seem to want to do is to criticize PDP and GEJ without realizing that we hold the key by thinking differently..
Changing the system, implies the following
1-Stop sharing funds to the states and LGAs, as wicked as this may sound...it has to happen...
2-re-organise your political landscape to deal with current realities...unicameral legislative assembly, self driven states, senators salaries paid by their constituents etc
3-No more blanket free stuff, All have to go, as these are the major avenues to perpetuate corruption..fuel subsidy, education subsidy, transport subsidy, agric subsidy etc...we have to task ourselves to come up with innovative ways of practicing welfare that dont expose the government, and these should even be at the local government level...most times
4-No more govt run businesses, another major source of corruption and in efficiency...membership driven parties, not government parties

Y[b]ou can never hear Buhari talking about these fundamental concepts[/b]...instead he is crying that he lost the opportunity to manage oil funds the second time...

Has Jonathan talked about them?
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 2:06pm On Jun 03, 2012
Sky Blue:

Has Jonathan talked about them?
At least he started by removing the fuel subsidy which was a source of corruption, laziness and UN-productivity,,

getting people to stop depending on oil revenues is going to be tough because people like Buhari and most nigerians have now classified it as "our free oil".
This change has to go through the paliament and who know who forms the majority there...anyhow lets see how the current constitutional amendment goes.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:18pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=13pt]Major-General Buhari was selected to lead the country by middle and high-ranking military officers after a successful military coup d'etat that overthrew civilian President Shehu Shagari on December 31, 1983.

At the time, Buhari was head of the Third Armored Division of Jos. Buhari was appointed Head of State and Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, and Tunde Idiagbon was appointed Chief of General Staff (the de facto No. 2 in the administration). Buhari justified the military's seizure of power by castigating the civilian government as hopelessly corrupt.[/size]





[size=18pt]General Buhari's Maiden Speech: - 1st January 1984[/size]

In pursuance of the primary objective of saving our great nation from total collapse, I, Major-General Muhammadu Buhari of the Nigerian army have, after due consultation amongst the services of the armed forces, been formally invested with the authority of the Head of the Federal Military Government and the Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. It is with humility and a deep sense of responsibility that I accept this challenge and call to national duty.



As you must have heard in the previous announcement, the constitution of the Federal Republic of Nigeria (1979) has been suspended, except those sections of it which are exempted in the constitution.The change became necessary in order to put an end to the serious economic predicament and the crisis of confidence now afflicting our nation. Consequently, the Nigerian armed forces have constituted themselves into a Federal Military Government comprising of a Supreme Military Council, a National Council of States, a Federal Executive Council at the centre and State Executive Councils to be presided over by military governors in each of the states of the federation. Members of these councils will be announced soon.The last Federal Military Government drew up a programme with the aim of handing over political power to the civilians in 1979. This programme as you all know, was implemented to the letter. The 1979 constitution was promulgated. However, little did the military realise that the political leadership of the second republic will circumvent most of the checks and balances in the constitution and bring the present state of general insecurity. The premium on political power became so exceedingly high that political contestants regarded victory at elections as a matter of life and death struggle and were determined to capture or retain power by all means.



It is true that there is a worldwide economic recession. However, in the case of Nigeria, its impact was aggravated by mismanagement. We believe the appropriate government agencies have good advice but the leadership disregarded their advice. The situation could have been avoided if the legislators were alive to their constitutional responsibilities; Instead, the legislators were preoccupied with determining their salary scales, fringe benefit and unnecessary foreign travels, et al, which took no account of the state of the economy and the welfare of the people they represented. As a result of our inability to cultivate financial discipline and prudent management of the economy, we have come to depend largely on internal and external borrowing to execute government projects with attendant domestic pressure and soaring external debts, thus aggravating the propensity of the outgoing civilian administration to mismanage our financial resources. Nigeria was already condemned perpetually with the twin problem of heavy budget deficits and weak balance of payments position, with the prospect of building a virile and viable economy.




The last general election was anything but free and fair. The only political parties that could complain of election rigging are those parties that lacked the resources to rig. There is ample evidence that rigging and thuggery were relative to the resources available to the parties. This conclusively proved to us that the parties have not developed confidence in the presidential system of government on which the nation invested so much material and human resources.While corruption and indiscipline have been associated with our state of under-development, these two evils in our body politic have attained unprecedented height in the past few years. The corrupt, inept and insensitive leadership in the last four years has been the source of immorality and impropriety in our society. Since what happens in any society is largely a reflection of the leadership of that society, we deplore corruption in all its facets. This government will not tolerate kick-backs, inflation of contracts and over-invoicing of imports etc. Nor will it condone forgery, fraud, embezzlement, misuse and abuse of office and illegal dealings in foreign exchange and smuggling.



Arson has been used to cover up fraudulent acts in public institutions. I am referring to the fire incidents that gutted the P&T buildings in Lagos, the Anambra State Broadcasting Corporation, the Republic Building at Marina, the Federal Ministry of Education, the Federal Capital Development Authority Accounts at Abuja and the NET Building. Most of these fire incidents occurred at a time when Nigerians were being apprehensive of the frequency of fraud scandals and the government incapacity to deal with them. Corruption has become so pervasive and intractable that a whole ministry has been created to stem it.



Fellow Nigerians, this indeed is the moment of truth. My colleagues and I – the Supreme Military Council, must be frank enough to acknowledge the fact that at the moment, an accurate picture of the financial position is yet to be determined. We have no doubt that the situation is bad enough. In spite of all this, every effort will be made to ensure that the difficult and degrading conditions under which we are living are eliminated. Let no one however be deceived that workers who have not received their salaries in the past eight or so months will receive such salaries within today or tomorrow or that hospitals which have been without drugs for months will be provided with enough immediately.We are determined that with the help of God we shall do our best to settle genuine payments to which government is committed, including backlog of workers’ salaries after scrutiny. We are confident and we assure you that even in the face of the global recession, and the seemingly gloomy financial future, given prudent management of Nigeria’s existing financial resources and our determination to substantially reduce and eventually nail down rises in budgetary deficits and weak balance of payments position.The Federal Military Government will reappraise policies with a view to paying greater attention to the following areas:



The economy will be given a new impetus and better sense of direction.
Corrupt officials and their agents will be brought to book.
In view of the drought that affected most parts of the country, the federal government will, with the available resources, import food stuffs to supplement the shortfalls suffered in the last harvest.
Our foreign policy will both be dynamic and realistic. Africa will of course continue to be the centre piece of our foreign policy. The morale and combat readiness of the armed forces will be given high priority. Officers and men with high personal and professional integrity will have nothing to fear.



The Chief Justice of Nigeria and all other holders of judiciary appointments within the federation can continue in their appointments and the judiciary shall continue to function under existing laws subject to such exceptions as may e decreed from time to time by the Federal Military Government. All holders of appointments in the civil service, the police and the National Security Organisation shall continue to exercise their functions in the normal way subject to changes that may be introduced by the Federal Military Government. All those chairmen and members of statutory corporations, parastatals and other executive departments are hereby relieved of their appointments with immediate effect.



The Federal Military Government will maintain and strengthen existing diplomatic relations with other states and with international organisations and institutions such as the Organisation of African Unity, the United Nations and its organs, Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, ECOWAS and the Commonwealth etc. The Federal Military Government will honour and respect all treaties and obligations entered into by the previous government and we hope that such nations and bodies will reciprocate this gesture by respecting our country’s territorial integrity and sovereignty.




Fellow Nigerians, finally, we have dutifully intervened to save this nation from imminent collapse. We therefore expect all Nigerians, including those who participated directly or indirectly in bringing the nation to this present predicament, to cooperate with us. This generation of Nigerians, and indeed future generations, have no country other than Nigeria. We shall remain here and salvage it together.

May God bless us all. Good morning.

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:19pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=18pt]3rd January 1984 ITN News (video clips)
Buhari moves fast to rescue economy with prompt debt repayment few days after military take over[/size]

Look at Nigerian economy after takeover by military rulers who have just paid off $50m loan;

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15xapP50Sf0?version=3[/flash]

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1984/01/03/AS030184006/?s=nigeria&st=2&pn=96&sortBy=date


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.32.html

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 2:20pm On Jun 03, 2012
DaLover:
At least he started by removing the fuel subsidy which was a source of corruption, laziness and UN-productivity,,

getting people to stop depending on oil revenues is going to be tough because people like Buhari and most nigerians have now classified it as "our free oil".
This change has to go through the paliament and who know who forms the majority there...anyhow lets see how the current constitutional amendment goes.

And then what happened to the 'savings' accrued from the removal of the subsidy . . . . .? Come on . . . Tell the whole story . . . .
How can yhou even mention corruption when this dispensation seems to show itself everyday to be pro corruption? Fuel subsidy scam and pension scam allude to what exactly? Who has been prosecuted for any of these?
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:20pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=18pt]05 January 1984 - ITN News (video clip)
GEN. BUHARI PRESIDES AT SWEARING IN OF MILITARY GOVERNORS AND WARNS THEM OF PENALTIES FOR CRIME AND CORRUPTION. (video clip)[/size]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_JjYG-ef8M?version=3[/flash]

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1984/01/05/AS050184005/?s=nigeria&st=2&pn=96&sortBy=date


Nineteen military governors were formally appointed by the new Head of State, Major-General Mohammed Buhari, and other members of the country's Supreme Military Council (SMC) in Lagos on January 4 to run Nigeria's federal states.

General Buhari attended the official swearing-in ceremony, which came four days after he led a bloodless coup ousting former President Shehu Shagari.

Speaking at the ceremony, Buhari reminded his new governors of their duties.All were chosen, he said, for their ability to discharge their responsibilities in the best interests of the country.He went on to warn them that crime and corruption for personal gain, one reason for the coup, would be ruthlessly punished.

General Buhari added the corruption and hoarding in the private sector would not be tolerated.He ended his speech by telling the assembled governors they were answerable to the country's military chiefs of staff and subject to redeployment at any time.

All former state governors have been given a week to report to police.

General Buhari has pledged to revive the country's economy and also to end the armed robberies in major cities that have become commonplace in the last few years.The fate of former top officials in the Shagari administration is still to be decided by the new military government, and Shagari himself is being held in custody.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.64.html

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 2:22pm On Jun 03, 2012
UGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! GenBuhari PLEASE. YOU HAVE YOUR OWN THREADS DON'T YOU? CAN YOU PLEASE CARRY THIS CRAP TO THE MANY THREADS YOU HAVE CREATED ON THIS TOPIC AND STOP SPAMMING EVERYWHERE WITH THIS JUNK!!!!!
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 2:46pm On Jun 03, 2012
Sky Blue:

And then what happened to the 'savings' accrued from the removal of the subsidy . . . . .? Come on . . . Tell the whole story . . . .
How can yhou even mention corruption when this dispensation seems to show itself everyday to be pro corruption? Fuel subsidy scam and pension scam allude to what exactly? Who has been prosecuted for any of these?
What savings, you seam to have the mindset that Nigeria is awash with so much excess cash..., instead of hitting the streets for free fuel, and pointing fingers at individuals, we need to ask ourselves questions which we always run away from, probably because they seam difficult to answer...for instance..does it even make sense for government to be managing pension funds?
If we decide to pressurize the government of the day on some of these fundamental concepts, then a whole lot would change...for someone to come to a public forum to preach that we replace one corrupt government with another one..with tribal affiliations is just plain crazy.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:55pm On Jun 03, 2012
5th January 1984 - ITN News
[size=18pt]New military ruler General Buhari holds his first Press Conference and promises to stamp out corruption.[/size]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKSqGuENI8A?version=3[/flash]

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist//ITN/1984/01/05/AS050184015/?s=nigeria&st=2&pn=92

He says he has uncovered widespread corruption and will bring the guilty to trial, he will also negotiate an IMF loan
to ease the severe economic crisis. Deposed President Shagari and his aides will remain in detention,

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jun 03, 2012
06 January 1984 - ITN News
[size=18pt]BUHARI OUTLINES NEW SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC POLICIES AND CRITICISES PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT.[/size]

Nigeria's new leader, General Mohammed Buhari, outlined his social and economic policies on January 5.Speaking at his first news conference five days after assuming power in a bloodless coup, the general said priority would be given to clearing the backlog of foreign debt while improving the lot of the ordinary people.

He confirmed that his government would pursue negotiations for a 2.5 billion US dollar loan from the IMF (International Monetary Fund), started by the ousted civilian government of President Shehu Shagari.He said the money was needed to bail Nigeria out of a severe economic crisis caused by a slump in the country's main export, oil. About 90 per cent of Nigeria's foreign earnings come from oil.

Earlier, General Buhari said economic mismanagement had prompted his takeover, and that Nigerians had to watch helplessly as President Shagari's government mishandled the economic crisis, causing high inflation.He said promised economic improvements were applied inadequately and imported food supplies to supplement domestic output were hoarded by corrupt officials or sold at very high prices.

General Buhari also condemned the previous system of import licenses, allotted, he said, by favour, and not to the manufacturers and genuine importers who needed them.He said the people had been misled by the government and criticised it for failing to deal firmly with rising crime.

General Buhari has also confirmed that Nigeria would remain a member of OPEC (Organisation of Petroleum Export Countries)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.64.html

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:58pm On Jun 03, 2012
06 January 1984 - ITN News
[size=18pt]BUHARI OUTLINES NEW SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC POLICIES AND CRITICISES PREVIOUS GOVERNMENT.[/size]

Nigeria's new leader, General Mohammed Buhari, outlined his social and economic policies on January 5.Speaking at his first news conference five days after assuming power in a bloodless coup, the general said priority would be given to clearing the backlog of foreign debt while improving the lot of the ordinary people.

He confirmed that his government would pursue negotiations for a 2.5 billion US dollar loan from the IMF (International Monetary Fund), started by the ousted civilian government of President Shehu Shagari.He said the money was needed to bail Nigeria out of a severe economic crisis caused by a slump in the country's main export, oil. About 90 per cent of Nigeria's foreign earnings come from oil.

Earlier, General Buhari said economic mismanagement had prompted his takeover, and that Nigerians had to watch helplessly as President Shagari's government mishandled the economic crisis, causing high inflation.He said promised economic improvements were applied inadequately and imported food supplies to supplement domestic output were hoarded by corrupt officials or sold at very high prices.

General Buhari also condemned the previous system of import licenses, allotted, he said, by favour, and not to the manufacturers and genuine importers who needed them.He said the people had been misled by the government and criticised it for failing to deal firmly with rising crime.

General Buhari has also confirmed that Nigeria would remain a member of OPEC (Organisation of Petroleum Export Countries)

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.64.html

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=18pt]8th January 1984 - The NY Times
Buhari steps up search for all Politicians and Officials who have failed to report to a Police Station.[/size]

LAGOS, Nigeria, Jan. 7— Nigeria's new military Government is stepping up searches for former politicians and officials of the civilian Government that was overthrown in a coup a week ago.

The new regime is making television appeals for news of the whereabouts of former officials and other Nigerians who are wanted for questioning and is urging citizens to telephone the police if they have information about those who are being sought.


https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.64.html

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 2:59pm On Jun 03, 2012
DaLover:
What savings, you seam to have the mindset that Nigeria is awash with so much excess cash..., instead of hitting the streets for free fuel, and pointing fingers at individuals, we need to ask ourselves questions which we always run away from, probably because they seam difficult to answer...for instance..does it even make sense for government to be managing pension funds?
If we decide to pressurize the government of the day on some of these fundamental concepts, then a whole lot would change...for someone to come to a public forum to preach that we replace one corrupt government with another one..with tribal affiliations is just plain crazy.


Please READ before you post. I will not address certain undertones in your post because I believe you have simply failed to read my posts.

No need to bring "another" government/person/party/individual into this. Let us take baby steps here. How many promises has PDP as a party delivered to the Nigerian people? Remember, do not bring anybody else into this, I know it is hard for you and you would like to bring another entity into this to justify gross misrule. Now, we were told by this administration that we should tighten our belts because they were going to be removing fuel subsidy which created avenues for corruption, so they could use the money to drive development in other areas, right? What was done with the money being saved as a result of not funding subsidies for fuel? You see how these questions don't have to that difficult? Now, in light of what happened amongst other things, do you believe that PDP as a party which has given us presidents for over a decade, has justified the time and resources spent with deliverables obtained?

And yes you are right. Nigeria is not awash with excess cash, it is a poor country. Which is the reason why meagre resources like those 'saved' from removal of subsidy should be spent diligently.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 3:37pm On Jun 03, 2012
Sky Blue:

Please READ before you post. I will not address certain undertones in your post because I believe you have simply failed to read my posts.

No need to bring "another" government/person/party/individual into this. Let us take baby steps here. How many promises has PDP as a party delivered to the Nigerian people? Remember, do not bring anybody else into this, I know it is hard for you and you would like to bring another entity into this to justify gross misrule. Now, we were told by this administration that we should tighten our belts because they were going to be removing fuel subsidy which created avenues for corruption, so they could use the money to drive development in other areas, right? What was done with the money being saved as a result of not funding subsidies for fuel? You see how these questions don't have to that difficult? Now, in light of what happened amongst other things, do you believe that PDP as a party which has given us presidents for over a decade, has justified the time and resources spent with deliverables obtained?

And yes you are right. Nigeria is not awash with excess cash, it is a poor country. Which is the reason why meagre resources like those 'saved' from removal of subsidy should be spent diligently.
Ok, maybe you misread my own post too...because I brought third parties into this... let me try again...
I already acknowledged that PDP has not delivered on its promises...and I am not saying that they are good or defending them...what I am saying is there is a need to correct the system that encourages laziness and corruption....and I went ahead to list some fundamentals that need to be corrected..


no third party mentioned...

DaLover:
What savings, you seam to have the mindset that Nigeria is awash with so much excess cash..., instead of hitting the streets for free fuel, and pointing fingers at individuals, we need to ask ourselves questions which we always run away from, probably because they seam difficult to answer...for instance..does it even make sense for government to be managing pension funds?
If we decide to pressurize the government of the day on some of these fundamental concepts, then a whole lot would change...for someone to come to a public forum to preach that we replace one corrupt government with another one..with tribal affiliations is just plain crazy.


Just to be clear, the bolded was not directed at you but other proponent of that.
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 3:43pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=18pt]10th January 1984 - The NY Times
4,000 EX-GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SURRENDER TO BUHARI'S ANTI-CORRUPTION PROBE[/size]

Western diplomats reported today that as many as 4,000 officials of the ousted national and state governments had turned themselves in to the police as part of the new military Government's investigation of corruption. The diplomats said most of the former officials were released, some after their passports were confiscated. But about 400 were reportedly still held under what was described as ''military protection.''

At the same time, the Western diplomats and Nigerian sources said, many of the former officials who were on what the military Government of Maj. Gen. Mohammed Buhari called its ''most wanted list'' have managed to flee the country. Some who were abroad during the military takeover have decided to remain there.


[size=18pt]https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-693700.64.html[/size]

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 3:44pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=18pt]16 January 1984 - ITN News
GENERAL BUHARI PRESIDES AT ARMED FORCES REMEMBRANCE DAY.[/size]

This year's celebrations were said to have been kept deliberately low-key by the new military administration in view of the nation's ailing economy

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jun 03, 2012
[size=18pt]17 January 1984 - ITN News
GENERAL BUHARI ORDERS HOARDED GOODS TO BE SOLD AT LOW PRICES.[/size]

Warehouses in the Nigerian capital, Lagos, where soldiers found hoarded supplies of rice, sugar and car tyres, were thrown open on January 13, and good sold at low prices.
Large crowds gathered outside the stores several hours before the sale was due to start. Police with whips controlled the crowds, ensuring that buyers only obtained their assigned rations -- one sack of rice, 50 kilos of sugar, and two car tyres each.
The tyres, which fit Peugeot cars, had been selling at four times the price under the government of President Shehu Shagari, toppled in a military coup on New Year's eve.

The goods on sale at six locations in the Nigerian capital, were either very scarce, or subjected to sharp price increase before Major-General Mohammed Buhari took over in the bloodless coup.

The sale, the latest in a series of actions by military governors in Nigeria's 19 states, reflected the new regime's efforts to fight the profiteering and corruption associated with the previous government.

Meanwhile trading was said to have slumped on major markets in Lagos, as dealers awaited the announcement of new prices by the federal government. Wholesalers said they were not buying new goods for fear having to sell them at a loss.

Prices of locally-manufactured consumer goods soared last year following a prolonged shortage of raw materials caused by a sharp drop in foreign earnings from oil -- the country's main source of foreign exchange earnings. Armed soldiers raided markets soon after the coup, forcing traders to cut prices, but the new government said the raids were unauthorized and had been stopped.

Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by SkyBlue1: 3:50pm On Jun 03, 2012
DaLover:
Ok, maybe you misread my own post too...because I brought third parties into this... let me try again...
I already acknowledged that PDP has not delivered on its promises...and I am not saying that they are good or defending them...what I am saying is there is a need to correct the system that encourages laziness and corruption....and I went ahead to list some fundamentals that need to be corrected..


no third party mentioned...



Just to be clear, the bolded was not directed at you but other proponent of that.

Ok, we are getting somewhere. Now. Do you think the current dispensation (a PDP run federal government) is the one to deliver this system change you speak of when you have just acknowledged that they don't have a good track record of delivering on promises? ? ?
Re: Why I Wept Openly For Nigeria – Buhari by DaLover(m): 3:53pm On Jun 03, 2012
GenBuhari: [size=18pt]17 January 1984 - ITN News
GENERAL BUHARI ORDERS HOARDED GOODS TO BE SOLD AT LOW PRICES.[/size]

Warehouses in the Nigerian capital, Lagos, where soldiers found hoarded supplies of rice, sugar and car tyres, were thrown open on January 13, and good sold at low prices.
Large crowds gathered outside the stores several hours before the sale was due to start. Police with whips controlled the crowds, ensuring that buyers only obtained their assigned rations -- one sack of rice, 50 kilos of sugar, and two car tyres each.
The tyres, which fit Peugeot cars, had been selling at four times the price under the government of President Shehu Shagari, toppled in a military coup on New Year's eve.

The goods on sale at six locations in the Nigerian capital, were either very scarce, or subjected to sharp price increase before Major-General Mohammed Buhari took over in the bloodless coup.

The sale, the latest in a series of actions by military governors in Nigeria's 19 states, reflected the new regime's efforts to fight the profiteering and corruption associated with the previous government.

Meanwhile trading was said to have slumped on major markets in Lagos, as dealers awaited the announcement of new prices by the federal government. Wholesalers said they were not buying new goods for fear having to sell them at a loss.

Prices of locally-manufactured consumer goods soared last year following a prolonged shortage of raw materials caused by a sharp drop in foreign earnings from oil -- the country's main source of foreign exchange earnings. Armed soldiers raided markets soon after the coup, forcing traders to cut prices, but the new government said the raids were unauthorized and had been stopped.













Clearly you are a sadist!! why not add adolf hitlers pictures, he also built great structures for germany, re-orgabnised the german industry etc...

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