aletheia: What was the plan of these fallen angels? It was an attempt to block the incarnation of Christ. Remember the prophecy?



Knowing that the Messiah would come through the woman as a pure (i.e 100% human) descendant of Adam; they attempted to corrupt the human gene pool (DNA) in an effort to prevent this.

Wrong for the 3rd time.

What God purposes, no one , not even Satan can thwart.

Satan is on a leash and like a barking dog he can only do what he is allowed to.

To suggest that Satan could have thwarted God's plans , by somehow making his angels develop sex organs to mate with women, would have been laughable if people did not take it seriously.

frosbel:



Angels cannot mate with humans , period, if you believe this, then why is this not happening today, since there are demons ( angels ) hanging about , patrolling to and fro across the earth, why can they not make full use of their so called reproductive organs to mate.

frosbel- i think the answer is obvious- women of nowadays arent as fair/beautiful as of old, as such the Demons cant get "it up" hopefully, viagra could help out- problem is no Dr is going to give a demon prescription for viagra

frosbel:
Angels cannot mate with humans

. . .says frosbel. Nevertheless the Bible says it happened. The Bible trumps frosbel every time. In what way were the children of Seth "clean seed"? Neatly avoiding that aren't you?

frosbel:
why is this not happening today, since there are demons ( angels ) hanging about , patrolling to and fro across the earth, why can they not make full use of their so called reproductive organs to mate. '.

How do you know it's not happening again? You only have your preconceived notions to go by. Open your eyes, read your Bible (without your notions getting in the way) and see the social engineering going on. . .designed to condition men to welcome fallen angels as their saviors.
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Mat 24:37)

frosbel:
Wrong for the 3rd time.
What God purposes, no one , not even Satan can thwart.
Satan is on a leash and like a barking dog he can only do what he is allowed to.
To suggest that Satan could have thwarted God's plans , by somehow making his angels develop sex organs to mate with women, would have been laughable if people did not take it seriously.

Stop juxtaposing your emotions upon the truth. In form and appearance when physically manifest as described in the Bible, angels appeared as men not eunuchs. The issue here is fallen angels who are disobedient. Men are not supposed to mate with animals, nonetheless don't a few practice this abomination? Angels are not to mate with man, yet disobedient fallen angels did so in the past and are bound over in chains in darkness for that.

Satan has always sought to thwart God's plan. But he has always failed. Doesn't mean he won't try. Herod tried to kill Jesus, didn't he? Did he succeed.

aletheia:
. . .says frosbel. Nevertheless the Bible says it happened. The Bible trumps frosbel every time. In what way were the children of Seth "clean seed"? Neatly avoiding that aren't you?

The bible should indeed trump anyone at any time, but when we take aspects of scripture out of context to support 'alien' theories , we have crossed the line !!!

The lineage of Seth, from which we have Enoch who walked with God and was not, was the chosen seed and line of descendants of the Messiah, fact !!!

How do you know it's not happening again?

Are you serious or joking,

Last time I watched star trek it was a fictional movie, not for real !!

Show me one humanoid ( angel plus human ) and I will agree.

Can you see how silly it sounds, how can angels mate with humans and produce humans, surely it will be another specie of some horrible sort , have you seen any, let me know when and where

You only have your preconceived notions to go by. Open your eyes, read your Bible (without your notions getting in the way) and see the social engineering going on. . .designed to condition men to welcome fallen angels as their saviors.
But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. (Mat 24:37)

Nonsense, there is no social engineering going on between angels and humans.

Stop juxtaposing your emotions upon the truth.

No emotions here Sir.

In form and appearance when physically manifest as described in the Bible, angels appeared as men not eunuchs.

And we all know that all the angels that appeared as Men where actually messengers of God and none of them mated with humans because the angels of God are spirit and not made of human substance.

Show me one demon that became a man in the bible, lol.

The issue here is fallen angels who are disobedient. Men are not supposed to mate with animals, nonetheless don't a few practice this abomination? Angels are not to mate with man, yet disobedient fallen angels did so in the past and are bound over in chains in darkness for that.

My goodness, have you seen any by product of mating between man and animals, I ain't seen any , because it will not work, has not worked and will never work.

God has put barriers in place and drawn lines where the wickedness of man cannot exceed. Even cats cannot make with Dogs and produce offspring , talk less of man and angels, what arrant rubbish ! This is science fiction stuff, period.

Satan has always sought to thwart God's plan. But he has always failed. Doesn't mean he won't try. Herod tried to kill Jesus, didn't he? Did he succeed.

Again, SATAN can never thwart God's plan.

You know i just cant get over this. Frsobel is actually refuting what is clearly written in the bible simply because she does not understand and would not accept what is implied. This is hubris.

You christians are a very funny bunch. It amazes me that you know the least about the religion you so fervently hold on to. It beat me when i see you guys arguring over wordings, semantics and ecclecestial nomenclecture , when you forget or choose to ignore the fact that the bible was not written in English.
What you are reading today are edited translations of translations which can never ever capture the essence of what the ancient scribes were trying to convey. How can you ignore the fact that "the sons of god" is a translation from the hebrew words "ben-elohim". Now, we all know (unless you wish to dispute it) that the word "Elohim" is a plural form of the word El(the lofty one).
Therefore ben-elohim [/b]could only be refering to the sons of the gods, not god.

Also, the word [b]angel simply means messenger of El. There is no spiritual conotation to angels in the bible. The bible never ever refers to or implies that angels are spiritual beings.

plaetton: You know i just cant get over this. Frsobel is actually refuting what is clearly written in the bible simply because she does not understand and would not accept what is implied. This is hubris.

You christians are a very funny bunch. It amazes me that you know the least about the religion you so fervently hold on to. It beat me when i see you guys arguring over wordings, semantics and ecclecestial nomenclecture , when you forget or choose to ignore the fact that the bible was not written in English.
What you are reading today are edited translations of translations which can never ever capture the essence of what the ancient scribes were trying to convey. How can you ignore the fact that "the sons of god" is a translation from the hebrew words "ben-elohim". Now, we all know (unless you wish to dispute it) that the word "Elohim" is a plural form of the word El(the lofty one).
Therefore ben-elohim [/b]could only be refering to the sons of the gods, not god.

Also, the word [b]angel simply means messenger of El. There is no spiritual conotation to angels in the bible. The bible never ever refers to or implies that angels are spiritual beings.

Should not be of any concern to you.

Again, you cannot, will not understand the bible by reading like a story book, there are precious truths therein revealed only to the humble and God fearing.

Besides anyone who believes against all biological and scientific evidence that angels can mate with humans is living in lala land.

frosbel:

Should not be of any concern to you.

Again, you cannot, will not understand the bible by reading like a story book, there are precious truths therein revealed only to the humble and God fearing.

Besides anyone who believes against all biological and scientific evidence that angels can mate with humans is living in lala land.

humble and god-fearing? and that perhaps describes you? Big laugh in hebrew.

Wat? Did you say scientific and biologicaL evidence? Which?
Kindly refer me to any scientific studies of angels and their reproductive health.

plaetton:

humble and god-fearing? and that perhaps describes you? Big laugh in hebrew.

Wat? Did you say scientific and biologicaL evidence? Which?
Kindly refer me to any scientific studies of angels and their reproductive health.

Okay , you are right, we have angels and humans mating with each other , with their offspring roaming around the earth causing chaos,lol.

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LoJ: Hello to everyone!

@ Frosbel,

If you reject a particular doctrine just because it is unbelievable to you and to people like you then I'm afraid you've got to completely reject christianity. For the Bible, from beginning to end is filled with things that sounds impossible to men. What is logical about the death of GOD? What's logical about GOD having a Son?

Secondly, the standard for knowing if a teaching is genuine or not isn't your understanding. The fact that something looks possible or not to you or to any other, DOES NOT constitute a valuable reason to invalidate a doctrine.

Finally, as I said earlier (in my previous post to which you did not respond and was not obliged to), your analysis is wrong from it's base. Cauz, you're supposing there was a "clean" seed (Seth) and an unclean seed (cain) which is wrong.

Both Seth and Cain were corrupted seed for they both are children of Adam who had fallen short of the glory of GOD due to disobedience. Adam was a dead seed, and death, sin etc. penetrated the world through him.

So GOD had to generate ANOTHER SEED from the Woman EVE now (not from the man) that will give birth to a new royal race = the Born again. If Seth was clean, there would be no need for a saviour.

Cheers.

Lion-EL of JESUS

"but God has revealed it to us by his Spirit. The Spirit searches all things, even the deep things of God......This is what we speak, not in words taught us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, expressing spiritual truths in spiritual words." - 1 Corinthians 2:13

"The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned." - 1 Corinthians 2:14

Matthew 13:11 He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.

1 Timothy 4:1 The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons.

na wa o-
y is no one quoting me
i guess i'll quote myself

snthesis: wow! interesting thread
ive always assumed (never put much thought into it) that "sons of God" referred to in Gen 6:1-4 was refering to angels and this was based on literature i.e novels, movies (City of Angels) and this thread has carefully realigned my thinking- Frosbel thanks alot.

now applying critical reason- which should put an end to all the Fallen angel- Nephilim talk.

1stly, Satan and his band of Fallen Angels were formerly part of the God's Angelic team i.e having same "DNA"- i believe everyone agrees with this.

2ndly, if the :Sons of God/ erroneously called Fallen angels could mate with Human beings it implies that Satan and His Band of Fallen angels have that innate ability as well.

3rdly, if the passage really meant "the sons of God as Angels" why hasnt there being a repeat performance, especially since Satan and his fallen angels are roaming wild and free on earth at the moment.

so logically, the "Sons of God" in Gen 6:1-4 does not in anyway refer to Angel/demons

Its VERY obvious that there are dissenting opinions to this topic equally all backed up with biblical proofs and to some extent scientific study.

Please I would like Frosbel to personally and with the help of the Holy spirit adduce the reasons why some angels left their first estate and are being bound in everlasting chains.


At others, if of a truth the fallen angels mated with women.What stop other demons who are moving to and fro the earth not to be engaged in the unholy act within the present day generation? Has the Almighty God put restrictions on the demons or what in the post-flood era?


More so, I do like to ask a pertinent question once more concerning the book of Job about the sons of God being gathered and Lucifer was equally there in their presence before God. My question is rather simple. Can Lucifer still appear in heaven given that the sons of God as being mainly purported are angels of God?

I am asking because I want to learn and hopefully this would rub off on others as well.

Jesus Christ is Lord!

Wow. This is an interesting topic. Sons of God in Job was used for angels. As for Gen 6 : 1- 6, would most likely refer to Seth lineage. Reasons:
1.A mark was placed on Cain.
2.The lineage of Adam to Noah was thru Seth. when Adam lay with Eve and gave birth to Seth, she said God has granted me another son in place of Abel because Cain had become a wanderer and lived @ the east of Eden.
3. The bible does not contradict itself but you will always find answers. Jesus while answering the pharisees in matt 22 :23-30. Verse 30 says: At the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; THEY WILL BE LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN. Which means angels don't marry. Also see Mark 12 :25. In these passages, Jesus specifically said we won't marry in heaven, we will be like angels. Whether fallen angels or God's angels. We can't say God's angels don't marry human but fallen angels do marry human. If angels don't marry, therefore there was no way angels were marrying humans in Gen 6 : 1-6.
4. For you to understand Gen 6 : 1-6,you have to study the preceding chapters( Chapters 4 and 5) the descendants of Cain had been cursed and a mark was placed on them. In Gen 4 : 26b- AT THAT TIME MEN BEGAN TO CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD. I want to believe men in this context mean the descendants of the cursed Cain.
5.The Nephilims were most likely the union of the Sons of God(lineage from Adam to Noah thru Seth) and the. Daughters of MEN(cursed descendants of Cain). Not much was said about the mark of Cain but we know it was recognizable so that he won't be killed.
6 The Nephilims that later came after the flood in Num 13 : 33 came through the cursed son of Noah ( Ham) who saw his father's unclothedness and was the father of Canaan. Which means he married from the descendants of Cain and Noah wasted no time in cursing him for what he did (a behavior he probably got by his mingling with strange woman.)
7 What about Goliath? If angels were the fathers of Nephilims, then the father of Goliath was an angel because the bible said he was a giant. The truth is Goliath was a philistine who were descendants of Ham.Philistines came from Mizraim whose father was Ham.

snthesis: na wa o-
y is no one quoting me
i guess i'll quote myself

To answer your #3 question. In my knowledge, It's because those angels had been bound in chains and darkness. They are not the same as demons we have working with satan now.

Answer to your question 2. Take a look even at that time, you will remember the even the men of Sodom still want to mate with the angel sent by God. To me, it seems that when angels come to the earth realm, there "might" be change in nature/form in the earth realm. Take a look at this and that is my line of reasoning:

Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it. Heb 13:2

Goshen360:

To answer your #3 question. In my knowledge, It's because those angels had been bound in chains and darkness. They are not the same as demons we have working with satan now.

It is actually chains of darkness, not chains and darkness, I had to correct this because of my next point.

Could it not be that Angels who left their first estate are simply fallen angels who rebelled against God with the devil and are bound in chains of darkness, meaning without the light and goodness of GOD, they are in a bondage of wickedness and cannot be realeased from it , until judgement day when they are destroyed , this is my understanding.

Answer to your question 2. Take a look even at that time, you will remember the even the men of Sodom still want to mate with the angel sent by God. To me, it seems that when angels come to the earth realm, there "might" be change in nature/form in the earth realm. Take a look at this and that is my line of reasoning:

Again you are ignoring the fact that ONLY GOD's angels appeared as men , there is no case of a demonic fallen angel changing into a man anywhere. The men wanted to sleep with them , because they thought they were ordinary men , that is until the angels struck them with temporary blindness.

Secondly , the bible says angels are ministering spirits sent to those who are heirs of salvation.

Lastly , they normally vanish after giving the message.

Do not forget to entertain strangers, for by so doing some people have entertained angels without knowing it. Heb 13:2

Indeed, just as Abraham, Jacob and many others entertained angels OF GOD in the bible who appeared as MEN. There is nothing to this.


Finally , may I repeat myself and say, ANGELS cannot mate with MAN , this is not a doctrine from GOD.

We we digging into things that GOD never revealed to us.

nedostic:
At others, if of a truth the fallen angels mated with women.What stop other demons who are moving to and fro the earth not to be engaged in the unholy act within the present day generation? Has the Almighty God put restrictions on the demons or what in the post-flood era?

In my understanding, I think the sets of angels that committed such then are different from the ones working with the devil. This might look strange but the tone of 2 Peter 2:4 says, The angels that sinned" meaning not all angels sinned. I think it "might" not happen this days because those angels had been bound in chains and kept for judgment according to Peter and Jude. Again, somebody said, "maybe" because the "daughter of men" in these days are not as beautiful as those days.

nedostic:
More so, I do like to ask a pertinent question once more concerning the book of Job about the sons of God being gathered and Lucifer was equally there in their presence before God. My question is rather simple. Can Lucifer still appear in heaven given that the sons of God as being mainly purported are angels of God?

About the "sons of God" as angel gathering and satan also appear with them. First, the support that the sons of God are angel in the book of Job is that, the book of Job was written in the time before Exodus. I might not go too deep into that analysis. So "the sons of God" as well known for angels at that time NOT used for men who have relationship with God. The term only comes in NT by adoption and Christians are called "sons of God".

Again, the context of Job says "sons of God" and we understand it is angels because the context says "BEFORE" the LORD. If you read many translations, some says "angels" while other says "sons of God". This happened in heaven because it says "BEFORE" God. This would have been shown to Job as revelation or vision of the throne of God so as to see his accuser, satan and what is going on in heaven. As to how possible is it for satan to still appear in heaven, I might simply/honestly not be able to answer that unless I find a bible verse to prove it. Thank you.

Skills10: Wow. This is an interesting topic. Sons of God in Job was used for angels. As for Gen 6 : 1- 6, would most likely refer to Seth lineage. Reasons:
1.A mark was placed on Cain.
2.The lineage of Adam to Noah was thru Seth. when Adam lay with Eve and gave birth to Seth, she said God has granted me another son in place of Abel because Cain had become a wanderer and lived @ the east of Eden.
3. The bible does not contradict itself but you will always find answers. Jesus while answering the pharisees in matt 22 :23-30. Verse 30 says: At the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; THEY WILL BE LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN. Which means angels don't marry. Also see Mark 12 :25. In these passages, Jesus specifically said we won't marry in heaven, we will be like angels. Whether fallen angels or God's angels. We can't say God's angels don't marry human but fallen angels do marry human. If angels don't marry, therefore there was no way angels were marrying humans in Gen 6 : 1-6.
4. For you to understand Gen 6 : 1-6,you have to study the preceding chapters( Chapters 4 and 5) the descendants of Cain had been cursed and a mark was placed on them. In Gen 4 : 26b- AT THAT TIME MEN BEGAN TO CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD. I want to believe men in this context mean the descendants of the cursed Cain.
5.The Nephilims were most likely the union of the Sons of God(lineage from Adam to Noah thru Seth) and the. Daughters of MEN(cursed descendants of Cain). Not much was said about the mark of Cain but we know it was recognizable so that he won't be killed.
6 The Nephilims that later came after the flood in Num 13 : 33 came through the cursed son of Noah ( Ham) who saw his father's unclothedness and was the father of Canaan. Which means he married from the descendants of Cain and Noah wasted no time in cursing him for what he did (a behavior he probably got by his mingling with strange woman.)
7 What about Goliath? If angels were the fathers of Nephilims, then the father of Goliath was an angel because the bible said he was a giant. The truth is Goliath was a philistine who were descendants of Ham.Philistines came from Mizraim whose father was Ham.

Thank you for your humble and biblical opinion !

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frosbel:

It is actually chains of darkness, not chains and darkness, I had to correct this because of my next point.

Could it not be that Angels who left their first estate are simply fallen angels who rebelled against God with the devil and are bound in chains of darkness, meaning without the light and goodness of GOD, they are in a bondage of wickedness and cannot be realeased from it , until judgement day when they are destroyed , this is my understanding.

Just another thought, if we say that those angels could be the ones that sinned with devil and are bound in chains of darkness. Why is only satan spared loosed to be the god of this world? Why would God only bound those angels alone and leave satan? where did demons working with satan came from again? does that mean satan again created his own angels/demons should the ones that sinned had been bound in chains of darkness? This are just another thoughts though.

frosbel:


Again you are ignoring the fact that ONLY GOD's angels appeared as men , there is no case of a demonic fallen angel changing into a man anywhere. The men wanted to sleep with them , because they thought they were ordinary men , that is until the angels struck them with temporary blindness.

Secondly , the bible says angels are ministering spirits sent to those who are heirs of salvation.

What is the prove that ONLY GOD's angel appear or can appear. The fact that angels do appear could also mean that nature of them being able to appear might not be taken away because that is the way they are created if they are to appear on earth. This is my thought anyway. They are spirit and it is possible they appear physical if they come on errand in the earth realm. My thought is, there seems to be possibility that angels regardless of if of God or otherwise can appear physical in the earth realm, they are simply spirits but in the earth realm they as seen as men. Their nature as men, when they appear as men we don't know unless you know but one thing is sure, they are seen and physical.

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Heb 1:7.

Skills10:
2.The lineage of Adam to Noah was thru Seth. when Adam lay with Eve and gave birth to Seth, she said God has granted me another son in place of Abel because Cain had become a wanderer and lived @ the east of Eden.
3. The bible does not contradict itself but you will always find answers. Jesus while answering the pharisees in matt 22 :23-30. Verse 30 says: At the resurrection, people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; THEY WILL BE LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN. Which means angels don't marry. Also see Mark 12 :25. In these passages, Jesus specifically said we won't marry in heaven, we will be like angels. Whether fallen angels or God's angels. We can't say God's angels don't marry human but fallen angels do marry human. If angels don't marry, therefore there was no way angels were marrying humans in Gen 6 : 1-6.

We have talked about this which seems to be the argument of people who don't believe they are angels=sons of God. Note, Jesus gave a specific place and event: AT RESURRECTION AND IN HEAVEN. The angels IN heaven do not marry simply because they serve in the presence of God day and night and moreso, it is in RESURRECTION, not THE EARTH. I think this should explain that verse.

[quote author=Goshen360]

Just another thought, if we say that those angels could be the ones that sinned with devil and are bound in chains of darkness. Why is only satan spared loosed to be the god of this world? Why would God only bound those angels alone and leave satan? where did demons working with satan came from again? does that mean satan again created his own angels/demons should the ones that sinned had been bound in chains of darkness? This are just another thoughts though.

Satan is also bound in chains of darkness , he obviously does not dwell in light but darkness. He is the epitome of darkness so it is safe to say that while they are around, they are in 'chains of darkness' reserved for judgement on the last day.

Again God has reserved them in chains of darkness. Tartarus is neither Gehenna, nor Hades, nor Hell, but a place of darkness. Therefore the darkness of Tartarus is not a physical darkness, but a spiritual darkness... - quoted from anonymous

What is the prove that ONLY GOD's angel appear or can appear.

Demons have been mentioned in the bible to possess people but never to appear as people , it's in the bible.

The fact that angels do appear could also mean that nature of them being able to appear might not be taken away because that is the way they are created if they are to appear on earth. This is my thought anyway. They are spirit and it is possible they appear physical if they come on errand in the earth realm. My thought is, there seems to be possibility that angels regardless of if of God or otherwise can appear physical in the earth realm, they are simply spirits but in the earth realm they as seen as men. Their nature as men, when they appear as men we don't know unless you know but one thing is sure, they are seen and physical.

The angels who come to earth as we seen in the book of Daniel and others , always did so as messengers from GOD. They came with the permission and authority of GOD and he gave them the ability , after all he made man.

Again , they almost always vanished after delivering the message. They are spirits not men .

And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Heb 1:7

Correct

LoJ:

The bible is filled with reference of angels taking forms of humans. In Sodoma, the inhabitants were willing to have sex with them. There are other passage where we see them eating, and doing things that are of this world. So, unless (just like Buzugee) you think there's no such thing like spiritual being, and that angels are humans, what you're saying lacks coherence.

Please read my reply to Goshen above, thank you !

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I really wonder why Goshen360 is throwing every illogical thing to pass a wrong msg- and i doff my hat to frosbel for puttin him through the ridiculous argument.
the truth is revelation of and understanding of the "word" comes from God- applying human intelligence wont cut it and u will end up being confused-"He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."

but then the end point/purpose of all these arguments is jst to create doubt in the minds of Christians- turn them into atheist or agnostics at best.

snthesis: I really wonder why Goshen360 is throwing every illogical thing to pass a wrong msg- and i doff my hat to frosbel for puttin him through the ridiculous argument.
the truth is revelation of and understanding of the "word" comes from God- applying human intelligence wont cut it and u will end up being confused-"He has blinded their eyes and deadened their hearts, so they can neither see with their eyes, nor understand with their hearts, nor turn--and I would heal them."

but then the end point/purpose of all these arguments is jst to create doubt in the minds of Christians- turn them into atheist or agnostics at best.

lolz. Na wha for you. The word of God doesn't make sense some times. . Abeg, am tired for today. Make I relax my brain jare.

@all, u 've said it all. But d bible said nd i quote ' d nephilim were on earth in those days; and also afterwards, when d sons of god came in unto d daughters of men and they bare to them the same mighty which of old renowned men' this is actually how this verse is written in the original form. It was translators dt added every other word u find in ur bible dt's not in this quote. Now, what i was able to make out of this verse d way it is above is dt, d nephilim dt existed were possessed by d angels who also are spirits nd they went in to daughters of men and dt's how they bare 'same'. Just a thought anyway...

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The angels were not just delivered into chains of darkness, but at the same time cast down to hell. Therefore, Satan does not fit into that interpretation as consistently echoed by frosbel.

Goshen360:

lolz. Na wha for you. The word of God doesn't make sense some times. . Abeg, am tired for today. Make I relax my brain jare.

Indeed , but when we ask God for wisdom and are led by the Spirit , he will lead us into all truth.

Reading the bible and trying to understand it with our human wisdom is like reading a physics book for the first time without a physics teacher.

However we must approach the truth with an unbiased mind and also no preconceived ideas of our own or that of man.

Finally and I repeat , no angel went into any woman, this is not biologically possible , besides God will never allow such an abomination. To suggest that he does, is to almost present God as losing control of his creation, let us be careful.

There have been some suggestions that genetical engineering was involved, I am not sure how people can be driven to this point of desperation.

The Sons of GOD were Men of GOD - Period.

This is also not an issue of salvation !!

Goshen360: ^^^
Have you read the book of Enoch? If you have read it, what does it say about this subject?

Nice to know some Bible readers understand that the council of Trent discounted a whole lot of Books (it seemed) that threw a lot of dust in their pristine collection of scripture they deemed divinely inspired

frosbel:
The Sons of GOD were Men of GOD - Period.

^
Again the Bible trumps frosbel:

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
(Job 1:6)
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Job 38:7)
He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
(Dan 3:25)
Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
(Dan 3:28)

The foregoing verses show clearly that your opinion is wrong and most certainly not in keeping with the witness of the scriptures. Before the Incarnation, Death and Resurrection, and our Adoption, the term "sons of God" was used to describe heavenly beings (angels) as seen in the OT.

aletheia:
^
Again the Bible trumps frosbel:

Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.
(Job 1:6)
When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?
(Job 38:7)
He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
(Dan 3:25)
Then Nebuchadnezzar spake, and said, Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who hath sent his angel, and delivered his servants that trusted in him, and have changed the king's word, and yielded their bodies, that they might not serve nor worship any god, except their own God.
(Dan 3:28)

The foregoing verses show clearly that your opinion is wrong and most certainly not in keeping with the witness of the scriptures. Before the Incarnation, Death and Resurrection, and our Adoption, the term "sons of God" was used to describe heavenly beings (angels) as seen in the OT.

touche monsignor aletheia

aletheia:
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Again the Bible trumps frosbel:

You mean the Calvin bible , right ?