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Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by FXKing2012(m): 3:50pm On Jul 02, 2012
Martian:

Yes. While denigrating your own history and culture in order to glorify your imported god and religion, you ignore the fact that African societies were not the "cave dwellers" you make them out to be.

There are parts of Africa and south america who never had contact wt the missionaries and wt civilization, and look at how they are living. Many of them still partake in cannibalism and human sacrifice. In terms of civilization, they are still extremely basic still using clubs, arrows and bows to hunt. That is what wld have happend to us have we not met wt the missionaries.



Martian: It's cool to love your god and religion, but do you have to do it at the expense of your self esteem, pride and history?

Abt the history of cannibalism and human sacrifices? YES!


Martian: To simplify things a bit, an European could have invented a portable heater because he had to warm himself somewhere in Scandanavia, but an African living in Onitsha probably didn't have that need. So who is more likely to spend his time trying to invent a heater? The African or the European? This is one of the reasons why western civilization was ahead of ours at that time.

@bolded, now u must be a big joke! So why didnt an African living in Onitsha see the need to invent air conditioner given the heat in west africa, or why didnt he invent the steam engine to aid his trade? Pls dont even do that to urself bro.

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Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Nobody: 4:09pm On Jul 02, 2012
FXKing2012:
There are parts of Africa and south america who never had contact wt the missionaries and wt civilization, and look at how they are living. Many of them still partake in cannibalism and human sacrifice. In terms of civilization, they are still extremely basic still using clubs, arrows and bows to hunt. That is what wld have happend to us have we not met wt the missionaries.

Did they tell you that they have a problem with the way they live? How do you know they still partake in human sacrificies and cannibalism? So we couldn't have dveloped better ways of hunting without the Europeans?

FXKing2012:
Abt the history of cannibalism and human sacrifices? YES!

European history has as much wanton bloodshed as African history, so what's your point?
Enough with human sacrifice, your religious myth is based on the sacrifice of a man; willingly or not. And how many bloodbaths were authorized by your god in your bible?

FXKing2012:
@bolded, now u must be a big joke! So why didnt an African living in Onitsha see the need to invent air conditioner given the heat in west africa, or why didnt he invent the steam engine to aid his trade? Pls dont even do that to urself bro.

His environment didn't demand it. The environment provided enough shade and if did't, then it's safe to say they he would have invented an AC. The steam engine wasn't needed for the amount of trade he had going, if it was, then he would have built one too.
But what he needed was a monetary system for trade, and he had one. Did "hunter gatherers" have monetary systems?
So maybe your ancestors weren't "cave dwellers" before your religion brought slavery and economic disparity "civilization and progress"
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by emofine2(f): 4:26pm On Jul 02, 2012
FXKing2012: But seriously, are u guys arguing that we wld have been better of if the missionaries never came? I mean, seriously, is that your stance?

Do you equate “salvation” with “civilization”?
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by FXKing2012(m): 5:02pm On Jul 02, 2012
Martian:

His environment didn't demand it. The environment provided enough shade and if did't, then it's safe to say they he would have invented an AC. The steam engine wasn't needed for the amount of trade he had going, if it was, then he would have built one too.
But what he needed was a monetary system for trade, and he had one. Did "hunter gatherers" have monetary systems?
So maybe your ancestors weren't "cave dwellers" before your religion brought slavery and economic disparity "civilization and progress"

You are in deed one big joke, so the African saw no need to invent anything other than bow, arrow and clubs. The environment was so perfect that there was no need to invent (lol). You must be a stand-up comic!

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Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by PhysicsQED(m): 5:17pm On Jul 02, 2012
FXKing2012:

You are in deed one big joke, so the African saw no need to invent anything other than bow, arrow and clubs. The environment was so perfect that there was no need to invent (lol). You must be a stand-up comic!

Why are you under the impression that it was too hot?

Africans lived in houses built out of earth (aka "adobe" houses) specifically as a means of insulation against heat transfer. This includes Egypt.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Nobody: 5:19pm On Jul 02, 2012
PhysicsQED:
Why are you under the impression that it was too hot?
Africans lived in houses built out of earth (aka "adobe" houses) specifically as a means of insulation against heat transfer. This includes Egypt.

Thank THE GREAT LEPRECHAUN, sane people still exist on this site.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Nobody: 5:21pm On Jul 02, 2012
FXKing2012:
You are in deed one big joke, so the African saw no need to invent anything other than bow, arrow and clubs. The environment was so perfect that there was no need to invent (lol). You must be a stand-up comic!

Do you know that African history is richer than just "bow, arrow and clubs"? Why are you so obsessed with primitive ideas from the stone ages? I'm sure your missionaries' ancestors also used clubs and stones.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Nobody: 5:25pm On Jul 02, 2012
FXKing2012:
The environment was so perfect that there was no need to invent (lol). You must be a stand-up comic!

Did those "cave dwellers" wait on the missionaries before they "invented" some medicine to treat malaria?
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by PhysicsQED(m): 5:26pm On Jul 02, 2012
FXKing2012, I hope that you are not attempting to tie "civilization" to the actual religious doctrines of Christianity and Islam.

If this is about the diffusion of more advanced technology from a place which is more technologically advanced at the time to another place which is generally less technologically advanced at that time, I don't see what Christianity or Islam or other foreign religions would necessarily have to do with it.

Try and think about why the Bedouin were not technologically advanced but the Persians were even after both became Muslim, or why the Greeks were advanced long before other European groups and before the existence of Christianity and you'll see that technological advancement is independent of religion except where that religion explicitly promotes technology, innovation, material creativity, etc.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Eratosthenes(m): 8:39pm On Jul 02, 2012
All religions are based on unsubstantiated myths and superstition. The difference is that the myths of Christianity and Islam were written in bible and qur'an respectively whereas those of African religions are in the form of oral tradition. So, substituting one for another is baseless. Instead, people should liberate their minds and embrace critical thinking.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by AjanleKoko: 10:30am On Jul 03, 2012
Martian:

Who did it to get trading leverage?



Religion is just one of the symptoms of the problem but it could also be of help.

A lot of sub-saharans converted to Islam, in order to gain acceptability with North African traders that were criss-crossing the sahara.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by logicboy01: 11:07am On Jul 03, 2012
AjanleKoko:

A lot of sub-saharans converted to Islam, in order to gain acceptability with North African traders that were criss-crossing the sahara.


As a Nigerian, there was no real trade. Just conquering on the part of the Arabs and slaves taking/eunuch making.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Fulaman198(m): 5:16pm On Jul 03, 2012
FXKing2012:

You see yourself now! Was Abraham a Christian? Was there even Christianity during Abraham's time? Why would u wanna expose your folly up in here? And besides, God was only testing Abraham's faith; God was never gonna allow Abraham kill Isaac. Dont be stupid u eeediot!

And if not for Christianity, Africans would still be living in caves doing hunting and gathering. So wat African institutions, instincts and common sense are u talking abt?

Obviously a European/Western man posting here.

So were Egyptians before Arabs and Europeans came to Africa doing hunting and gathering?

Were Fulani people (my people) doing hunting and gathering before Europeans and Arabs came to Africa?

What about the Songhai?

The majority of West Africans were either nomads or farmers..... Cattle Herders (Pastoralists) or Farmers. You are so naive it's laughable.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by Ptolomeus(m): 5:47pm On Jul 03, 2012
@FXKing2012
Where you want to go?
You try to denigrate his own past, their ancestors.
When you speak of sacrifice, forget that the God of the Judeo-Christian and Islamic commanded sacrifices virgins in his honor ...

You say that Africa was a continent behind because of their beliefs?
Thanks to the beliefs and the direct and indirect domination of Christian and Islamic groups, TODAY, Africa is the world's poorest continent, Africa has the highest number of death by inanition per capita ... with the greatest ignorance of their own roots.
Very disservice to Africa have, your friends Islamic and Christian ..
Excuse me my sincerity, but their exposure has been pathetic.
Re: Did African Religions Need To Be Substituted? by sonofluc1fer: 11:07pm On Nov 08, 2017
Bumo.

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