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Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Afam(m): 3:27pm On Dec 03, 2007
Oops! What was that? I addressed Purist and topic so where the hell did this man jump from?
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Blatant: 3:42pm On Dec 03, 2007
This sounds like a kind of elitist club with privileges.

It does not appear to be a club formed to help better the interests of the nation but rather to create a clan of people who will enjoy certain privileges. The poster wants to use this medium to attract who have foreign currency to join the club. He is probably the secretary or the treasurer of the club
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Afam(m): 4:17pm On Dec 03, 2007
Blatant:

This sounds like a kind of elitist club with privileges.

It does not appear to be a club formed to help better the interests of the nation but rather to create a clan of people who will enjoy certain privileges. The poster wants to use this medium to attract who have foreign currency to join the club. He is probably the secretary or the treasurer of the club

Exactly my point, this is not scam.

Unfortunately, when people don't understand something rather than take time to ask questions they jump into making baseless accusations.

The same way anyone with enough cash can get discounts for goods and services and those that buy at retail prices don't.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by BigB11(m): 5:28pm On Dec 03, 2007
If you're interested in being a member of this revolutionary club, please indicate your interest here and I'll get back at you. N30k is the registration fee.

Regards

@post:

May be you should start by introducing free registration fee; give folks an opportunity to discover the main purpose of this revolutionary club.
Eventually folks wouldn't mind to pay twice the registration fee, but you must allow them to get comfortable with what you're selling.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by McOmo(m): 9:07pm On Dec 03, 2007
purist and mrpataki

u 2 are my friends but i must tell u the truth . . . . kill urselves right here tongue grin

@purist

so u had the guts to bring this here shocked wow ! lipsrsealed

nnc is an mlm, stop deceiving urself . . .developing nigeria my arse tongue grin

but guys,dont get it wrong,who said mlm is bad ? undecided shocked
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 8:24pm On Dec 06, 2007
Mc Omo:

purist and mrpataki

you to are my friends but i must tell u the truth . . . . kill urselves right here tongue grin

@purist

so u had the guts to bring this here shocked wow ! lipsrsealed

nnc is an mlm, stop deceiving yourself . . .developing nigeria my arse tongue grin

but guys,don't get it wrong,who said mlm is bad ? undecided shocked

No one is saying MLM is bad, but considering the number of Nigerians who have been swindled with this nefarious activity, under various brand names, why is it not easy to assume such inclination towards such an idea now? undecided



BTW where is this purist of a person? grin
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by BlackMamba(m): 9:56pm On Dec 06, 2007
How will subsidizing the cost of goods and services for club members and may be assisting the less privileged bring about a New Nigeria. Putting a band aid on the cost of living does not address the basic problem of democratic government and accountability. Back in the day, our father's generation formed cooperative societies, and in Eastern Nigeria, even set up a Cooperative Bank. All their lofty goals are extinct because these ideas do not address the underlying problem of a representative government.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by folahann(m): 10:02pm On Dec 06, 2007
Entity with prfit minded staffs
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 12:38pm On Dec 10, 2007
@mrpataki,

It's funny how you keep dribbling around, using unnecessary (and sometimes, inapplicable) big words, while at the same time, contradicting yourself, all in a bid to sound like some intelligent scambaiter. At first, you're so sure that I am a scammer, and in the same breath, you assume that I am one, until proven otherwise. Don't you think it's rather unwise and somewhat immature to presumably confer an objectionable status on someone, based on your own sentiments? I am really tempted to go into the mud with you, but I'll just end it here. Now, run along. . tongue

mrpataki:

Purist link=topic=97484.msg1739823#msg1739823 date=1196617768:

Actually, arrangements are currently being made with GTB (arguably the biggest/best bank in Nigeria at the moment) on something the management wants done for all club members - Naija Branded ID cards with interswitch magnetic strips, personal identity and hologram. Hopefully, this will become available when we're in full launch.
Wishful thinking.



Every great achievements have their inspiration from wishful thoughts. You can ask the Wright Brothers (I'm sure they were criticized and heavily discouraged as well). Anyway, the cards will be available to members as from January 1, 2008. This one is just a draft.
Read more: http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/12/04/coming-soon/


Regards.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 12:41pm On Dec 10, 2007
@ Others (Blatant, Afam, Big B1 & BlackMamba)

I appreciate your sense of maturity.  Even though you guys have your doubts, I'm glad you're wise enough not to descend to the level of name-calling.

The concept of the NNC is actually to use a sort of social networking to build a critical mass of 5,000,000 Nigerians, who will be active participants of the nation building.  Through this networking, members will be able to share ideas, proffer solutions, and execute these solutions.  We'll not only be talking, we shall ACT as well.

Amongst the many projects we will be embarking on, is the community development.  The club will, in the little way it can, help develop areas where government has paid little or no attention to.  This will involve giving to the needy of such communities to cater for themselves, funding neglected public schools, offering scholarships to public school students, etc.  Already, we're working on this, and the school concerned for now is Ojodu Community Secondary School.  Someone also suggested, in the first meeting held, that some sort of "Shadow Government" should be formed. . . I believe this is currently being looked into.

The benefits I highlighted previously are just there to add value to the membership, and to get more people interested.  We realise that Nigerians would naturally hesitate to partake in anything productive, unless there is a motivation/reward for it. So for taking a conscious decision to be a part of this national reform, the club management feels that club members deserve these benefits, and they're working frantically on getting the other deals available to the members (at the moment, there are just 3 deals). Whether this is elitist or not, is debatable, depending on the way you see it.

Moreso, the club currently has some N1.3m available, and members are being asked to vote on which project they want the money to be used on (there are about 8 options).  The one with the highest vote gets the money.  This project will be embarked on this week, I think.

@Blatant, I'm neither their secretary, nor the treasurer.  I'm just an ordinary member of the club.  Besides, we already have many Nigerians in diaspora joining already, so I'm definitely not here for any foreign currency.

@others,

If anyone cares, you can send a mail to newnigeriaclub@gmail.com to request for a powerpoint presentation and a copy of the NNC Ideology (PDF version) sent to you.  These files contain virtually everything you may like to know concerning the NNC.  I would have attached them here, but the files are larger than 200KB.

Regards.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Seun(m): 12:45pm On Dec 10, 2007
How is this better than a regular Zenith Bank or GTBank ATM card?
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Nobody: 12:52pm On Dec 10, 2007
thank god its only a dream
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 1:01pm On Dec 10, 2007
Hi Seun,

There isn't any much difference, as far as using it in an ATM, goes.  But with the card, you're recognized as a bona fide member of the NNC wherever you go.  It also helps to reduce the levels of bureaucracy involved in getting the deals being offered to members.  Moreso, if you read the content of the link I put there, you'll see that those that choose to partake in the health deal before December 20, will have health access codes on their cards, which will give them access to first class medical care at over 80% discount.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 2:06pm On Dec 10, 2007
Caveat emptor!!!! shocked shocked shocked

First you made notes towards GTB, now it is Oceanic bank. grin

Get a good life and stop tagging along like a lipsrsealed tongue


Fraud at its best!
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 6:14pm On Dec 10, 2007
@mrpataki,

mrpataki:

First you made notes towards GTB, now it is Oceanic bank. grin

And what exactly is your problem here? Weren't you the one that remarked that if we were genuine, that why aren't we patnering with any bank? Now, as you can see, we are indeed patnering with one. . . and whether it's GTB, Oceanic or UBA should not be a contention.

And yeah. . . I mentioned GTB earlier, because the project leader told us back then that he had discussed with some ladies from GTB on the issue. I guess there was a change of plans thereafter. Mind you, I also asked him why the card has an Oceanic bank logo, and his response was, "We are not pawns in the hand of any bank, expect to either see different banks on the cards or no bank at all."

Regards.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 6:31pm On Dec 10, 2007
Purist:

@mrpataki,

And what exactly is your problem here? Weren't you the one that remarked that if we were genuine, that why aren't we patnering with any bank? Now, as you can see, we are indeed patnering with one. . . and whether it's GTB, Oceanic or UBA should not be a contention.

And yeah. . . I mentioned GTB earlier, because the project leader told us back then that he had discussed with some ladies from GTB on the issue. I guess there was a change of plans thereafter. Mind you, I also asked him why the card has an Oceanic bank logo, and his response was, "We are not pawns in the hand of any bank, expect to either see different banks on the cards or no bank at all."

Regards.
It is partnering. Thanks wink

Whichever bank you decide to use is of no concern to me. Other than Nigerians get to realise that this fraud . . fraud at its best decorations. cheesy Too many errors I have detected with this dream of yours.

January 1, 2008 is just around the corner. Lets see whether it is a reality or a mirage as it stands at the moment. As someone earlier noted, thank God this project is only a dream. grin

Regards.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by folahann(m): 8:01pm On Dec 10, 2007
I can't wait to see the 1st person to give in to this
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 9:58pm On Dec 10, 2007
folahann:

I can't wait to see the 1st person to give in to this
The poster does not simply know when to call it off.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 9:39pm On Dec 13, 2007
[size=14pt]Meanwhile. . .[/size]

Our First Charity outing as a club is this weekend. 3pm Saturday, 15th December, 2007

Based on the votes of the members, we have decided to add value to 4 Cases this week. Two of these cases are critical public health cases that we can donate money to without any major paraphernalia. Some of our delegates will go ahead and do this ahead of us.

The rest of us will be going to two places on Saturday. Remand Home Boys Oregun and Modupe Cole, Okota. We’ll be giving them some of the items they have requested for as needs, spend some time with them and help them refurbish some of their dilapidated structures. In Modupe Cole we’ll be helping them to build a shed, as some of the workshop exercises they have are being done in the sun. In the Remand Home, we will confirm with them today whether it is renovation of one of their hostels that is urgent or helping them with an internet ready computer room.

We will be having coverage for the event from 12 Newspaper houses and 3 Television houses. The News Agency of Nigeria that supplies news for international stations will also be present. Like we confirmed to our members, we want to add visible value.

Modus Operandi

1. All members will need to go to their members’ area and click on the events link and chose to join to be a part of this event. This will help us know how many people to prepare for.

2. We will be renting a bus or buses depending on our numbers. This bus will convey us from 71 Allen Avenue, beside UBA to our destinations. We will depart from this venue at 3pm New Nigeria Time.

3. All interested members should dress in casual ware with a New Nigeria T-Shirt. If you don’t have one, there will be some available for sale at departure.

4. We will be taking some carpenters; painters and other specialists along, these ones will lead the refurbishing projects and will continue after we are gone.

Don’t just wait to hear about how this went, be a part of it. This is one of the things the New Nigeria is about… working together to make the lives of others better.

This is the best way to start!
http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/12/12/charity-event-update-urgent/


@mrpataki, are you still in doubt? cheesy
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Pain(m): 3:21am On Dec 14, 2007
Another Scam Network in The Making. Cry Out Loud For All I Care. This Is Another Rip Off. Thank God The EFCC Is On This Forum Now! People Like U Prey On The Gullible Like Every MLM, Pyramid Scheme. How Does This Translate into Better Infrastructures and Living Standards For The Common Man With No Money To Part With.

How Do U Reach Those With No Access To ICT. How Do U Intend To Reach Over 65% of the Population That Lives On The Other Side of The Digital Chasm? Where Is The Bridge.


Another Profit Driven "Vision" > I Now See Why We Still Have A Long Way To Go. The Only Unfortunate Thing Is That Every Gospel No Matter How Fraudulent Would Have Its Own Share Of Disciples. You Can Go Milk Them While Their Blindness Lasts.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 9:12am On Dec 14, 2007
Purist:

[size=14pt]Meanwhile. . .[/size]

Our First Charity outing as a club is this weekend. 3pm Saturday, 15th December, 2007

Based on the votes of the members, we have decided to add value to 4 Cases this week. Two of these cases are critical public health cases that we can donate money to without any major paraphernalia. Some of our delegates will go ahead and do this ahead of us.

The rest of us will be going to two places on Saturday. Remand Home Boys Oregun and Modupe Cole, Okota. We’ll be giving them some of the items they have requested for as needs, spend some time with them and help them refurbish some of their dilapidated structures. In Modupe Cole we’ll be helping them to build a shed, as some of the workshop exercises they have are being done in the sun. In the Remand Home, we will confirm with them today whether it is renovation of one of their hostels that is urgent or helping them with an internet ready computer room.

We will be having coverage for the event from 12 Newspaper houses and 3 Television houses. The News Agency of Nigeria that supplies news for international stations will also be present. Like we confirmed to our members, we want to add visible value.

Please spare me the propaganda. Lies upon lies. Which of the television houses are coming, they must be jobless and greedy for money. Well I hope you are all rounded up soon by either the EFCC or police.

Purist:

Modus Operandi

1. All members will need to go to their members’ area and click on the events link and chose to join to be a part of this event. This will help us know how many people to prepare for.

2. We will be renting a bus or buses depending on our numbers. This bus will convey us from 71 Allen Avenue, beside UBA to our destinations. We will depart from this venue at 3pm New Nigeria Time.

3. All interested members should dress in[b] casual ware  with a New Nigeria T-Shirt.[/b] If you don’t have one, there will be some available for sale at departure.

4. We will be taking some carpenters; painters and other specialists along, these ones will lead the refurbishing projects and will continue after we are gone.

Don’t just wait to hear about how this went, be a part of it. This is one of the things the New Nigeria is about… working together to make the lives of others better.

This is the best way to start!
http://deoluakinyemi.com/2007/12/12/charity-event-update-urgent/


@mrpataki, are you still in doubt? cheesy
It is casual wear not casual ware wink

With every of your postings, it is getting clearer, how you intend to swindle people off their money. How many people have come up here openly to sign up for this stupidity? NONE!

So you mean after paying 30k for membership, I still have to pay to get a t-shirt as a member? You guys are rogues!. sad

Carpenters, painters and other artisans are also going to buy your t-shirts? shocked grin I can only pity those who were gullible enough to partake in this foolishness. embarassed
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 9:20am On Dec 14, 2007
Pain:

How Do You Reach Those With No Access To ICT. How Do You Intend To Reach Over 65% of the Population That Lives On The Other Side of The Digital Chasm? Where Is The Bridge.

They do not live on space, do they?
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 9:31am On Dec 14, 2007
@mrpataki,

Since you have now made it a point of duty to keep pointing out spelling errors in my posts, just know that I'm very much up to the task as well, considering the fact that yours is far worse than just spelling errors.

Anyway, I love the way you are so confident of yourself, albeit foolishly. Have you wondered why other far more intelligent members have decided to keep mute and not contribute to this thread? It's not as if they haven't seen this thread already, they're just wise enough to know when and how to respond to issues. Boy, be prepared to eat your words very soon! cheesy
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 10:47am On Dec 14, 2007
Purist:

@mrpataki,

Since you have now made it a point of duty to keep pointing out spelling errors in my posts, just know that I'm very much up to the task as well, considering the fact that yours is far worse than just spelling errors.

Anyway, I love the way you are so confident of yourself, albeit foolishly. Have you wondered why other far more intelligent members have decided to keep mute and not contribute to this thread? It's not as if they haven't seen this thread already, they're just wise enough to know when and how to respond to issues. Boy, be prepared to eat your words very soon! cheesy

Every member of this forum is not under any obligation to make a post to every topic on this forum. We all seek for areas of interest and post therein. Sorry that your favorite scam-prone business section has been deleted by Seun, hence you can now afford yourself the sense to come to the politics section to make contributions.

I do not come here brandishing myself to be of higher intellect than any other person albeit, I am accustomed to hearing such from my peers most times. tongue So kid, keep your observations to yourself. cheesy

By the way, you have no rebuttals towards the jargons you earlier stated about this dream of yours and its latest project? cheesy Stick to issues and get your tenses right alongside. cool

Purist:

Have you wondered why other far more intelligent members have decided to keep mute and not contribute to this thread? It's not as if they haven't seen this thread already, they're just wise enough to know when and how to respond to issues.
Have you wondered why other far more intelligent members have decided to keep mute and not contribute to this thread? It's not as if they haven't seen this thread already, they're just wise enough to know when and how to ignore and avoid senseless topics and issues.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 12:01pm On Dec 14, 2007
And he thinks he just made any sense. . . Oh lawdy lawd! grin cheesy grin

mrpataki:

Every member of this forum is not under any obligation to make a post to every topic on this forum. We all seek for areas of interest and post therein. Sorry that your favorite scam-prone business section has been deleted by Seun, hence you can now afford yourself the sense to come to the politics section to make contributions.

Behold, mrpataki and his usual practice of always bringing non-issues into real issues!  What has this got to do with what we're discussing?  One who checks your stats would be deceived to think you're some kind of born again Christian or pastor since you have many of your posts under Religion, whereas, 99% of your posts in that section are just plain brawls. . . always looking for who to exchange words with.  This makes me wonder how old you really are - you definitely can't be 26 years old! lipsrsealed 

mrpataki:

I do not come here brandishing myself to be of higher intellect than any other person albeit, I am accustomed to hearing such from my peers most times. tongue So kid, keep your observations to yourself. cheesy

Wait a minute, are you saying your pears peers actually tell you that you are intelligent? grin

mrpataki:

Have you wondered why other far more intelligent members have decided to keep mute and not contribute to this thread? It's not as if they haven't seen this thread already, they're just wise enough to know when and how to ignore and avoid senseless topics and issues.

In other words, YOU are foolish enough not to know when and how to ignore and avoid "senseless topics and issues", since you're the only one foolishly bold enough to raise a stiff opposition, innit?

mrpataki:

By the way, you have no rebuttals towards the jargons you earlier stated about this dream of yours and its latest project? cheesy Stick to issues and get your tenses right alongside. cool

I didn't bother myself to make any rebuttal, and probably will not, depending on the kind of gibberish you come up with next.  Because as Deolu said to me last week during a chat, "Our acts will speak for us; only fools argue with results".

Regards.
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 6:49pm On Dec 14, 2007
Seems I hit you where you least expected. tongue Now my supposed age bothers you? grin grin You are nothing but a rogue, with your stupid Nigerian Dream. grin cool

As for attacking my person, seriously I am the least bothered. I don't give a hoot, about what peanuts like you view about my person on this forum. tongue

I have told you, stick to issues. If you want to know another cyber-side of mrpataki, here it is:
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-30156.1024.html

You just happen to be on my wrong side. So live with that on this forum!
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 7:13pm On Dec 14, 2007
Lol. . . Dude, you didn't hit me anywhere. And how can I be a rogue when I also took money from my own pocket to join the club?

Anyway, I am not a peanut, I'm a human being, a good one at that. grin cheesy grin

If you're "the least bothered" about me speaking the truth about you, what's up with the link then? Why did you suddenly get interested in showing me another 'cyber-side' of you, if you weren't bothered in the first place? Besides, who cares about your so-called 'cyber-side'?

Olodo. grin
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 7:25pm On Dec 14, 2007
Purist:

Lol. . . Dude, you didn't hit me anywhere. And how can I be a rogue when I also took money from my own pocket to join the club?

Anyway, I am not a peanut, I'm a human being, a good one at that. grin cheesy grin

If you're "the least bothered" about me speaking the truth about you, what's up with the link then? Why did you suddenly get interested in showing me another 'cyber-side' of you, if you weren't bothered in the first place? Besides, who cares about your so-called 'cyber-side'?

Olodo. grin

Sorry oh, I was only helping you out with the link. I noticed that you reason with your nose rather than your brain. grin

Peanut tongue
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 7:36pm On Dec 14, 2007
mrpataki:

Sorry oh, I was only helping you out with the link. I noticed that you reason with your nose rather than your brain. grin

Peanut tongue

At least I've got a brain.  Yours is a very pathetic case, as you're completely brainless. grin

Mumu. cheesy

P. S. I know this is what you love doing best - bandying words!  I'm up to the task as well. cheesy
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by mrpataki(m): 7:54pm On Dec 14, 2007
I noticed your topic has over 400 views! shocked cheesy

No thanks to my constantly replying your drivel here.

Do you think you can match me in bandying words? cheesy cheesy

Count your days on this forum if you stick to attacking my person on this forum henceforth! cool
Re: The New Nigeria Dream by Purist(m): 8:02pm On Dec 14, 2007
mrpataki:

I noticed your topic has over 400 views! shocked cheesy

So. . .??

mrpataki:

No thanks to my constantly replying your drivel here.

And. . .??

mrpataki:

Do you think you can match me in bandying words? cheesy cheesy

I see you're happy.  Thanks for proving me right.

mrpataki:

Count your days on this forum if you stick to attacking my person on this forum henceforth! cool

Oh pardon me, Mr. Born Again Christian, I'm so scared. embarassed

Dude, you seem to be so full of yourself, and the annoying part is that you ALWAYS think you're making sense, just when you're doing the exact opposite.

Bring it on!

grin

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