starrez:
Anyone with a referral code from Africhange?

REF363337

10billionDollar:
LOCATION?

Lagos

A subsidiary of multinational/global entity in the maritime sector is searching for competent, innovative and smart HSE professionals with about 5 years' experience and the right ethics for the job.

If you believe you are the most suited to be the HSE Supervisor, then please send your CV to recruitment@tict-ng.com to participate in the selection process.

Juwon21:
Dear All,

Please help us revive this thread. This thread is not lively again everyone is silent. You can post HSW information, job vacancies, and help to answer questions of people.

Thank you

Good one Juwon21!
I'll also endeavor to check in on the thread to chip in my contributions every now and then, as much as possible but as we all know, life often gets busy and demanding of people's time, energy and attention in different directions. Hope your HSE journey is going ok by the way? Cheers!!!

micxwell:

God and networking! You have to find a way to dip yourself into the field. Let me tell you how I achieved mine with God's grace! I'm not there yet but I'm confident I'm on the right path towards what I've always wanted.

Now on to wait I did....
I got interested in the field during my mini contract as an Instrument Technician @NLNG Bonny Island immediately after my NYSC. After the contract, I returned to Ib for my MSC in Environmental and Public Health. I headed straight to ISPON after my project defence. I registered as a member at ISPON.

Joined a lot of safety groups on WhatsApp, I made LinkedIn.com my second home; and I made sure I visited ISPON secretariat at least once a week to make sure they don't forget me. While I wait, I mastered my Structural design and detailing which did fetch me a lot of cash as I draw for people; I am a Civil Engineer by the way, but I really do like *HSE*. I told my self construction safety is your final bus-stop.

Eventually, I got an entry-level job with NBC by God's grace through ISPON President Oyo state branch. What I'm really happy about is that, my Safety Manager is very good. He enjoys teaching and will cover you if you want to go for any training or certification.
So, God help you bro. I wish you all the best. Just don't give up.

Nice one bro! Your determination and doggedness is commendable.

Limitless72:


Thank God I stumbled upon this contribution..
I'm a serving corps member
I plan on undergoing my HSE level 2&3 training at ISPON secretariat in Port Harcourt coz of its proximity to Imo State..
So I placed a call across to the number I saw on what seems to be their official website but was told the number doesn't exist...

Now Its making me have a rethinking about every details and information I saw in the website...

How much do you think would be the total cost for HSE 2&3 ...
How much did you pay for the training?
Do you think the price would be reduced coz I'm a Corper?

Pls answer...
Brainwave assist too

Hmm...bros, I wish I could assist with answers but unfortunately, I am not in position because its been a long time (about or over a decade) since I took either of those courses so, I'm not current on information about the cost implications.

I guess someone more current will provide answers to your questions.

Cheeers!

NYCnextStop:
sir in your honest opinion which offers more opportunities out there

Please NEBOSH or hse which would you advise I go for?

Thanks.

Hmm...well. my honest opinion may not be accurate as I'd very likely have a positive bias towards HSE cos that what I know and have the most passion for.

Nevertheless, if finance is not a deterrent and you have international career aspirations like the original guy (Eleniyan) who asked the question, I'd definitely recommend HSE because, you might be better placed competing for HSE jobs with Arabs, Europeans or Americans than if you were to compete with them for HR positions. It all boils down to your personal circumstance and future desires or plans.

As for the question of which to go for between HSE (I'm assuming by this you mean Nigeria-based programs from organisations like ISPON etc) and NEBOSH, of course if you've got the resources and have to choose one, NEBOSH is the way to go!

Hope this helps!

Eleniyan15:
Brainwaves
Good evening sir, have gone through the whole page every individual has been able to enlighten newbies coming up.
I am a graduate of sociology, a prospective corp member. is it advisable to apply for this program with the present situation in nigeria. Am confused i had plans of applying for CIPM after going through this thread from page 1 HSE seems to be interesting program.

Thank You

Well...HSE is quite different from HR or personnel management (CIPM) although both disciplines have in common, some form of people management function. I know a couple of people who decided to go the HR route after their first degrees in Sociology as well as there are people who chose to pursue the HSE route after a first degree in the social sciences.

You might need to do a comparative analysis of the number of opportunities potentially available in both fields (HSE vs HR) in the labor market post-NYSC because the truth is that irrespective of your interest in a certification or qualification, the end goal in investing time and other resources towards acquiring such is to move you forward towards your career goals and enhancing your job prospects.

In summary, I think you should compare both professions and determine which would serve your best interests in view of the resources available for you to work with (especially finances) and against the backdrop of your future plans and desires.

Cheers!

Limitless72:



Oga brainwave I sight you today after so many years...
Welcome back boss

Bros I hail o! Thanks.

Starfaith:
I av just spent good 2hrs or more reading this thread from scratch(all d way from 2008) and I must say, very informative and impressive.
Weldone @Brainwave and all the guys who's been keeping here alive.

I am medical graduate and I am thinking of doing my MSc in public health, maybe OHS as a sub. Pls I need ur advise as to whether being certified in HSE wud be beneficial during entry into Masters prog in this field.
Thank you all...I really need ur advice.

@Starfaith, you're welcome on board! As per your enquiries, I frankly don't see in very clear terms, how HSE certifications would impact your chances of gaining entry into uni for an MPH program with OHS as a sub-discipline. There are definitely folks that started with core medicine before choosing to become OHS specialists but HSE certifications may come in more handy in the 'marketplace' (job market) when competing for HSE positions than for gaining entry into an MSc or MPH program. That's just my thoughts but others can chip in their opinions as well.

Cheers!

beejay722:

pls add me to the WhatsApp group... 080 30897978

Sorry bro...even though I started this thread I am not part of the Whatsap group as I was not active here for a long time.I'm sure one of the administrators should be able to add you to the Whatsap group however, If there are other enquiries you think I can help with, don't hesitate to ask.

Cheers!

sugarlilz:
hi please can anyone assist with how one can get CSP certification in Nigeria? Or if any training institutes can be recommended

Hmm...I might be able to give some pointers on how to obtain the certification in Nigeria. You can shoot me a PM and we'll take it from there!

Cheers!

@ALL, please permit me to vent a bit....
I received an email - an IRCC newsletter today - and was surprised that our people - "Nigerians" - were singled out for mention in the news on the issue of new waves of refugees / asylum seekers coming to Canada through the US border...this really saddens me I must say...so wealthy a country Nigeria is but she seems unable to get her acts together...although some may argue that Nigerians just love 'short-cuts' reasoning that many of these people skilled or qualified enough to legally obtain valid US visit-visas from Nigeria with the hidden intent of eventually crossing over to Canada as asylum seekers could very well have successfully gone through the more rigorous process of provincial or federal (Express entry) PR application well...maybe right line of thought or not, the indisputable fact in all this I think, is that the country Nigeria, seems to be one in which the overwhelming 'push' factors contribute significantly to the human capital flight or brain-drain as some call it...so sad

https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/news/2018/04/members-of-the-ad-hoc-intergovernmental-task-force-on-irregular-migration-meet-to-discuss-latest-influx.html

Demiyike:


But don’t forget that once you land even if it’s soft landing you will have to sponsor your baby to come into Canada . The baby having a American Passport does not give her the right to be a PR in Canada

To add to Demiyike's post, do endeavor to get ALL the necessary facts on the protocols & processes from Canadian government Immigration department sources. I do believe you would be required to sponsor the child for him / her to become a permanent resident but I'm not certain that can be done while you are back as a resident in Nigeria after the soft landing since you have to be living in Canada at the time you're sponsoring someone else to the best of my knowledge. There was the case of a Nigerian couple in 2015 (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/family-in-calgary-may-be-forced-out-of-canada-because-of-baby-1.3162610 ). Though their case was different cause they had the baby in the US before the initial landing. Whatever you decide eventually, just ensure you have all the facts cause immigration rules could be very 'unemotional' and rigid in enforcement in these climes!

imconfused:
Naija men that marry Caucasians generally tend to have a brain reset naturally.

Come and see them cooking ,cleaning,burping their children without complaint.
Its mostly when they see Naija women they try to flex muscle.
Here, relationships have expectations..you are expected to do your own bit.
I still don't understand the going back to Nigeria to poach a wife,once she gets here and understands the system she becomes wiser and stops being intimidated by the egoistic man.

Every Mallam to his kettle.Marry who you love ,someone who you are passionate about and a person who is on a similar standing or at least close to you so that even if it ends and the assets are split in two,no one will be wailing like Eboue.

@imconfused, the bolded really cracked me up serious matter but funny at the same time!

Hello Folks!

Good job y'all are doing. Thought to share below info for Calgary bound/based Naija trained engineers/geo-scientists:


Directions for immigrants in Trades and professional careers

Directions for Immigrants offers study groups to help you prepare for accreditation exams and employment success.
clients review materials as outlined in the exam syllabus and/or study materials through a question and answer format. Clients also improve study skills and develop test taking skills. Attention is also paid to the development of relevant vocabulary as well as an understanding of terminology and Canadian business culture. Study groups are also a useful resource for peer support among the participants. The study groups are facilitated by a Career Coach with training in adult education and group facilitation and when possible co-facilitated by a professional in the field of study.

Currently, professional exam study groups are available for:

Engineering and Geoscience Medical Laboratory Science Nursing Medicine Pharmacy Job Success Groups


Engineering and Geoscience

Fundamentals of Engineering (FE)
National Professional Practice Exam (NPPE)
Fundamentals of Engineering (FE)

Study Group Description:
The Fundamentals of Engineering (FE) study group focuses on assisting internationally educated engineers in reviewing competencies as outlined by the National Council of Examiners for Engineering and Surveying NCEES

Facilitated sessions (Saturdays) focus on the fundamentals of engineering and are facilitated by a licensed engineer. Peer study sessions (Wednesdays) provide an opportunity to collaborate with others in your discipline and to study materials specific to your discipline. The peer study sessions are not facilitated. The materials covered in the facilitated sessions cover the general FE material. Please be aware that the FE exam is a discipline specific examination. For information on the FE exam please visit: ncees.org/exams/fe-exam/

Licensing Body: Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of Alberta (APEGA)

Facilitators:
Facilitated by a licensed engineer

Cost:
No cost for eligible clients accepted into the group

Eligibility Requirements:
Be an internationally educated engineer
Have been assessed by APEGA to write the FE exam and provide proof
Be scheduled or planning to write the FE exam within one month of completing the study group
Write and pass an assessment test to assess your math and engineering skills
Complete a study group assessment
Be ready, willing and able to commit to the attendance rules
Be ready, willing and able to study the required hours per week
Be approved by a career coach/facilitator/coordinator

Delivery Method:
Face to face

Required Textbooks:
FE Review Manual Rapid Preparation for the Fundamentals of Engineering Michael R. Lindeburg, PE
FE Other Disciplines Practice Problems by Michael R Lindeburg PE, 4 Jul 2014, Paperback

Dates:
October 14, 2017 - February 10, 2018 (Saturdays)

October 18, 2017 - January 31, 2018 (Wednesdays)

Time:
9:00 am – 1:00 pm (Saturdays) and 5:30 pm to 8:30 pm (Wednesdays)

Number of Sessions:
15 Saturdays and 15 Wednesdays, 30 sessions in total

What are the steps to find out if you can join the FE study group?
Call the Directions for Immigrants office to make an appointment to meet a career coach, phone 403-770-5155
Complete your online registration form
Attend your appointment to determine your eligibility
Write and pass an assessment test
Complete a study group assessment with your career coach
Develop an action plan with your career coach if accepted to the study group
Study Group Calendar

National Professional Practice Exam (NPPE)

Study Group Description:
The National Professional Practice Exam (NPPE) study groups focuses on assisting internationally educated engineers and geoscientists in reviewing competencies as outlined by the guidelines of the Canadian Engineering Qualifications Board through a questions and answer format and review with a facilitator.

Licensing Body:
Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of Alberta (APEGA)

Facilitators:
Co-facilitated by a career coach and licensed engineers

Cost:
No cost for eligible clients accepted into the group

Eligibility Requirements:
Be an internationally educated engineer orgeoscientist
Have applied to be a member of APEGA and provide proof
Have registered to write the NPPE and paid the fees before the specified deadline and provide proof
Complete a study group assessment
Be ready, willing and able to commit to the attendance rules
Be ready, willing and able to study required hours per week
Be approved by a career coach/facilitator/coordinator

Delivery Method:
Face to face

Required Textbooks:
Canadian Professional Engineering and Geoscience: Practice & Ethics, Fifth Edition, 2014 by Gordon C. Andrews
Practical Law of Architecture, Engineering, and Geoscience, Third Canadian Edition, 2015 by Brian M. Samuels and Doug R. Sanders
https://www.apega.ca/apply/exams/nppe/study-materials/

Dates:
November 15, 2017 to January 31, 2018 (Wednesdays)

Time:
5:30 pm - 9:00 pm

Number of Sessions:
11

What are the steps to find out if you can join the NPPE study group?
Call the Directions for Immigrants office to make an appointment to meet a career coach, phone 403-770-5155
Complete your online registration form
Attend your appointment to determine your eligibility
Complete a study group assessment with your career coach
Develop an action plan with your career coach if accepted to the study group
Study Group Calendar

Their mailing address is:
Directions for Immigrants
Bow Valley College, West Campus, Room 219 - 300 - 6 Ave SE
Calgary, AB T2G 0G5
Canada

Hello House!

Good info 'sharing' and 'mining' going on here.

A uick heads up for any Naija trained pharmacist in Calgary:

A spot just became available in 'Bow Valley College/Directions for Immigrants' Pharmacy Evaluating Exam study group.

If you know any internationally educated pharmacists planning to write their EE in January 2018, tell them to call the college at 403-770-5155 before September 1.

Directions for Immigrants
Bow Valley College, West Campus, Room 219 - 300 - 6 Ave SE
Calgary, AB T2G 0G5
Canada


T: 403-770-5155 | Toll free 1-877-297-2553

Directions for Immigrants is operated by Bow Valley College.
The Province of Alberta is working in partnership with the Government of Canada

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ishigawa: I am a Young civil engineer working as a site engineer on a road construction project and planning to get the NEBOSH HSE certification as it is encouraged in the industry for projects. I would like to know which would be advisable for me at this stage of my career- the IGC or thr more specific IGC in Construction.

Hi bro, you're welcome on board! To respond to your enquiry, I candidly think your decision of which NEBOSH certification to go for should be determined by your career plans i.e, whether or not you see yourself building a long-term career in the 'Construction' industry. If you see long-term career in 'construction' then, it could be more sensible to go for the specialized NEBOSH IGC with respect to 'construction'. Just my thoughts!

shollynoob: Brainwave n the rest you guys are doin a good job, thumbs up for u guys.pls am a corp member currently serving in ebonyi state, i studied electronic n computer engr n am really interested in dis HSE tin.i need an advice on which institute to go for the training- here in ebonyi we have JPTS n NISP. JPTS fee is relatively cheaper wen compare to NISP, pls which one is more authetic or well respected. Nd i also need material on PDMS if anyone can help my email is shollynoob@yahoo.ca

Thks everyone for ur contribution on dis thread

@shollynob, you're welcome on board!NISP for now, has wider acceptability than MOST other local options as best as I know. Cheers!

Milito:



I indeed found this very useful. I have a keen interest in the 'Environment' aspect of HSE, but as u said it seems its not as favoured as the Occupational Health and Safety Aspect.

Brainwave and co. u are really doing a wonderful job on this thread. I actually started reading the thread from when u started it till present time (although i jumped 1 or 2 pages in 2010, lol). And I must confess I am really impressed. Brainwave and the other experienced guys in this field, pls I would like u to shed more light on the quote above. I was actually eager to read a response to this but was disappointed tht no response was given.

As I said earlier, I am more interested in the 'Environment' aspect of HSE. I studied BSc Environmental Biology and MSc Envt Pollution Mangt. But I have been stuck in Customer Service for a reputable company for 2 years plus now but I REALLY want to work in my field as my interest lies there. I have even done NISP Levels 2 and 3 (3yrs ago) and another Occupational Safety and Health certification last year but I'v been unable to move basically due to my lack of experience in this line.

Brainwave pls enlighten me:
- is the Envt aspect of HSE relegated in Nigeria?
- NEBOSH as u said is an expensive investment, is NEBOSH International General Certificate a Plus/value for someone interested mainly in the Envt aspect of HSE?
- whats ur professional opinion btw NEBOSH and IEMA?

@Milito, thanks for your inputs and observation. Sorry, no one responded to the earlier poster's enquiries but its good you've revived it. I'll attempt to provide answers to your enquiries. Note the word 'attempt', no one knows it all (including moi ). Learning is continous:

- is the Envt aspect of HSE relegated in Nigeria?

Well, I do not think the 'E' aspect of HSE is exactly 'relegated' in Nigeria i.e, in relation to Health & Safety. I think its mostly a matter of the order of things or 'priority'. By this I mean its likely that organizations would focus first and foremost, on the Health and Safety of their workforce before considering the impact of their 'production activities' on the 'environment'. Nevertheless, the importance of the 'E' element in HSE cannot be underplayed because the interaction between 'man' and the 'environment' is 'circularly causal' that is, just as the condition or state of the environment affects or impacts man,man's activities also impact and determine the condition of the environment. In the sector I work, I can assure you that gevernmental/regulatory agencies constantly make certain that we do not neglect the 'E' function in HSE. They keep organizations on their toes in relation to 'environmental issues' such that one cannot but pay attention to the 'environment' aspect of HSE. Nevertheless, there's still mush room for improvement with regards to the level of 'environmental' awarenes in the land (Nigeria).

- NEBOSH as u said is an expensive investment, is NEBOSH International General Certificate a Plus/value for someone interested mainly in the Envt aspect of HSE?

I think each person has to have an idea of his/her desired career goals or destination before setting out on the best stategy or 'pathway' to arrive at that end or to achieve the set career goals. For someone mainly interested in the 'E' element of HSE as you said, the person still has to weigh the options available and determine whether or not, an investment in a 'NEBOSH' qualification would be of value now or in the future for him/her. Sometimes, its really about 'opportunity cost'.

- whats ur professional opinion btw NEBOSH and IEMA?[/quote]

We are in a rapidly changing world where the turn-around rate of knowledge and information is amazing and getting faster by the day. Yesterday's knowledge may not be adequate for today's challenge. I percieve IEMA as a specialist association for 'environmentalist' or 'environmental professionals or managers' while NEBOSH is also a professional qualification but generally more renown as a qualification with emphasis on Health and Safety . Like I earlier said, I think people should determine their desired 'career' destination, evaluate where they are presently, and plan/work out a 'flexible' strategy to get there. I say a 'flexible' strategy because its sometimes not advisable that people box themselves too tightly into a corner 'career-wise'. One of the ways of leaving a window open for other career options is by broadening one's knowledge/area of expertize i.e, by aquiring additional qualifications/skills that could enable one to diversify or switch career paths in the future if necessary. You may be an enviromentalist today and tommorow, situations change and a window of opportunity opens to practice difeerently e.g, as an occupational health and safety specialist or vice-versa. Will there be any certifications or qualifications you can leverage on if you do need to change careers in the near or not so near future? In the final analysis, I'd say 'one size doesn't fit all' in these matters.

hazelle: Dear everyone, I'm a Petroleum and Gas undergraduate. I'm interested in taking the SHE course but first from NISP. The problem is this, I went online-to their website and saw so many health and safety courses with their individual prices. Now I'm confused on which to pick. Thought it was just a general stuff. Y'all should please advice me on what to do. Thanks.

@hazelle, there is actually a 'GENERAL HSE' course offered by NISP which affords participants the opportunity of have 'general' feel of HSE. I'll advise you re-check your source to verify this or alternatively, you may put a call through to NISP. Cheers!

greatlee: @ Brainwave, pls am waiting for your response. God bless

greatlee: This tread is the most hilarious and educating tread i have come across here on NL. @ poster, may God bless and enrich you always.

Please i need your advice. I am a graduate of Geology/Physics from a reputable university in Naija but after spending 3 years in the country without a job, i jetted out of the country where i am not doing bad presently. While i was in Naija, just immediately after my NYSC, i took the HSE leve 2 and 3 certification courses but it did not make job hunting any easier. Now that i have come across this tread, my interest in HSE have just been rekindled. I have made enquiries about the NEBOSH and it will cost me about $1,700 USD. I also would like to take the course alongside another HSE course; Auditor/Lead Auditor OH&S Management System OHSAS 18001 which will cost me about $600 USD. Please i need an advice if this is worth investing into as i will be retunrning to Naija by the end of this year and hope to find a job and stay back home with my new family. Is ot better to do the training here or back in Naija?

Please advice me. God bless you

@greatlee, I'm of the opinion that you could as well get your NEBOSH certification where you're based before returning to Nigeria. I particularly do not see any advantage or 'edge' you will gain by obtaining the qualification in Nigeria. As to the question of the 'worthiness' of investing in the HSE certifications (i.e, NEBOSH & Auditor/Lead Auditor OH&S Management System OHSAS 18001), it all depends on your career path on returning to the country. But again, the truth is, there are no guarantees on these issues, one often has to take calculated risks, plan or work out a 'practicable' strategy & then leave the rest to God. That's my thought. Cheers!

joyceereal: @ all i really enjoy this thread, its educating and informating. Pls can an OND holder go for these courses?

@joyce, you're welcome! Sure, an OND holder can go for these courses i.e, if you're refering to Level 1 HSE training courses.

Princejydo: Hello guy pls i have a certification hse issued by OSHA( USA) which is coordinated by ELAK group but people are questioning the genuinity of the certificate. Pls what ur opinion

Hmmmmn...I'd suggest you try contacting OSHA directly to verify the authenthicity of the Nigerian representative or partners but again, you've already obtained the cert ..........
@ALL, anyone with helpful info for Jydo?

ayolatun: This thread is amazing. I am a Cell, Biology and Genetics student of the Univerity of Lagos and my area of specialization is Environmental Biology. I am in final year in school hoping to be at the forefront in Environmental Management as well as HSE.

I have read through from page 1 and am happy with the knowledge I have been able to acquire. A Big thumbs up to brainwave and co. God bless you guys.

God bless you too!

envee:


Yes Sir....I will visit often as I still have so much to learn as well.

Gracias Senor.

Gracias Senora!

squad1: @Brainwave @All.. I am a Civil Engr but not decided whether i should go for HSE or the NISP Construction Safety (Constr HSE)course... what do u think?

Why not try out the General HSE (NISP)

jimbass: @brainwave, thanks for ur comment I realy appreciate it.

You're most welcome!

Can we have more thoughts on this??

jimbass: @Big-Biye and Brainwave, I would need your advice on how to get a job in the health and safety field, I have Got NEBOSH IGC in occupational health and safety.

@jimbass, I wish I knew a 'fire-proof' formular for getting a job in HSE.....nevertheless, I'd urge you to try and grow your 'net-work' of HSE professionals and 'enthuthiasts'. By enthuthiasts, I mean people who are interested in or passionate about HSE (they don't necessarily need to have HSE jobs). Secondly, if you find any opportunity to volunteer on any project that has HSE practitioners involved, you can get to understudy them (yes, even without pay!). Such non-paid HSE work experience can very well, go on you CV and help build an experience in HSE which may catch the eye of potential employers.
Don't get tired of sourcing for HSE-related openings and haven said this much...keep PRAYing!
All the best brother!