Jerryhare:


When you read your Bible is Peter's head the rock? Or Jesus is bricklayer? Babu sense

That's exactly the question you should have asked yourself before you started connecting Jesus' statement in that scripture to a physical building

advanceDNA:


Nice.....but Jesus did not tell u to use the internet platform to say these things either......

my question is why are u using the internet platform to teach pple these words..instead of going from place to place on foot...walking around the world, like u said the disciples did

Okay your point is that we should disregard the Bible and do whatever we like because the Bible wasn't written in our time.

Hmmm, you are such a good Christian, keep on teaching that

advanceDNA:

my question is why are u using the internet platform to teach pple these words..instead of going from place to place on foot...walking around the world, like u said the disciples did

This part doesn't even corelate because in the first century there was no internet, but there were buildings. Why didn't Jesus ask us to build churches? Is church-building a recent invention?

Jerryhare:
Jesus told Peter that upon this rock I'll build my church, OP go Sunday School and Bible class you won't go

So when you read your bible you saw Jesus building a church-building on Peter's head

"Jesus declared, “Believe me, woman, a time is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem... Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in spirit and in truth.”" (John 4:21,23,24).

Jesus did not say, "It no longer matters whether you worship God on this mountain nor in Jerusalem, you can worship God anywhere". He didn't say we can worship God in any place. Rather he said worship should be done in spirit and in truth. Yes, he was saying worship has shifted from something you do in a physical place, to something you do in the Spirit within you. Now you wonder, after this statement of Jesus, why are believers still going to a building to worship God?

From that statement of Jesus, we get an idea of how God expect us to live the Kingdom life. And it's definitely not by building worship centers. There is no indication anywhere in the New Testament that God desires that believers today should build houses of worship unto him. Rather we see the opposite of that.

“However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says: ‘Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the Lord, Or what is the place of My rest? Has My hand not made all these things?" (Acts 7:48).

After the Scripture has clearly stated that God does not live in any physical building. Then why do we build churches and call them the house of God? Are we not contradicting the Scripture? If Jesus said worship should be done in spirit, and God wants it that way, then why do we go to a building to worship God? Is that building spirit, is it made of spirit bricks? Why have we chosen to be children of disobedience?

We discover that for the first 300 years after the ascension of Jesus believers refused to build any church. It wasn't because they were not opportune to, it wasn't because they don't have the money, or they were constantly on a run. Come on, people who are on a run will not go to public places to preach. Read the Bible, the apostles were not preaching underground, they preached in public places. It is false to assume that the 1st-century believers fellowship in their homes rather than building churches because they were hiding. They were not hiding, they understood the instructions of Jesus as such refused to have a building for worship services.

During Paul's first missionary Journey, one of the first places that Paul went to minister was the island of Cyprus. There a governor accept the gospel and became a believer (read Acts 13:4-12). Paul continued his ministry for over 10 years and the Bible made no mention of the church-building that this governor built. In fact, we discovered that the believers on the island of Cyprus continue to gather in their homes.

Why would a man of great resource like Governor Sergius Paulus refuse to build a church for him and the believers in Cyprus to worship God? Why didn't Paul write a letter to Sergius Paulus warning him against greed and asking him to use his money and resources to fund the house of God so that the believers in Cyprus can have a place to worship?

The Philippines were the wealthiest believers out of all the communities Paul ministered. They consist of people with high status in the Roman Empire. They had more than enough money to fund a church-building project. But why didn't they? If your heart is sincere towards God you will ask these questions. Why is it that for 300 years believers refused to build a church despite the available opportunities?

Paul ministered in Ephesus for 3 years, and that was enough time to build a church in Ephesus. Yet he refused to. Instead, believers continued to fellowship in their homes. The homes were too small for Paul to minister. Instead of organising the believers to make contributions and build a church, Paul decided to rent a school. No, they were not gathering in that school for worship services.

Many of the people who came there were unbelievers, curious minds from all over the province of Asia, gathering to listen to Paul's teachings. The believers continued to fellowship at their homes. From the 1st century down to the 3rd century Christians strongly believed that God doesn't want them to build churches. They believe it was against the Christian faith to build churches. Here are quotes from the letters of Christian leaders in the 2nd and 3rd centuries.

"The Word, prohibiting all sacrifices and the building of temples, indicates that the Almighty is not contained in anything." Clement of Alexandria (year 195).

"We refuse to build lifeless temples to the Giver of all life... Our bodies are the temple of God... When they reproach us for not deeming it necessary to worship the divine Being by raising lifeless temples, we set before them our temples [bodies]." Origen (year 248).

From Jesus' discussion with the Samaritan woman, we see that the way he envisioned that the Christian life will be lived is not one where believers like the Jews and Samaritans keep going to some physical place to worship God.

From Stephen's speech, we see that God has no intention of us building a house for him.

In Paul's ministry, we see that he refused to have a building dedicated to Christian worship.

From the behaviours of the 1st-century believers, especially the wealthy ones, we understood that using your money to build churches was never considered a service unto God.

And in the letters of the 2nd and 3rd century Christian leaders, we see that they were fully convinced that we are not to build churches or hold worship services.

Now after seeing all this, and you still say to yourself, "It doesn't matter, there is nothing wrong with having church buildings and doing worship services", then your salvation should be questioned. Did you give your life to Christ or you gave your life to man's tradition? Are you truly saved at all? Is your heart pure and sincere towards God or are you doing Christianity simply because you were born into it?

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When Jesus came all he talked about was the Kingdom of God. His mission on earth was to establish the Kingdom of God. He was to do this through his death and resurrection. He fulfilled this mission, the Kingdom of God was established on earth, and the early Christians came together and began to practice a Kingdom.

Sadly, today we've abandoned this Kingdom and we are carrying away doing religion. However, the Lord is doing such great work among us. He is restoring the emphasis on His Kingdom, and he is bringing his people again to start practicing this Kingdom.

Now, where religion is practiced, what you will see are temples, rituals, traditions, and sects. Yes, every religion has sects, fractions and different form of division.

But where Kingdom is practice, what you will find is government, communities, and ministries or institutions who serve under this government. Yes, when the body of Christ start practicing a Kingdom, what we would have are Kingdom communities, with governmental assemblies in each of them, and then ministries serving the governmental assemblies, assisting them in fulfilling their functions.

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There are two ways to move in the supernatural. One is works, and it is very difficult. Not very many people can bear it. Another way is rest. You simply learn to love God so deeply and enjoy him. And while you are enjoying him and caught up in the pleasure of him you burst into the supernatural. This way is even more powerful than that of works, and any Christian can do it. This is what we teach our students in the School Of Oneness.

It is the effortlessly way into the manifestation of the glory and the fullness of God.

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Felicox:
Trying to twist the scriptures to suit your own message or argument is not a new thing, it's the hallmark of Pentecostalism. The Bible was not written today, and those in the bible times understood whatever language was used in writing it and the practice of preventing women from pastoring churches in line with the scriptures has been practiced for many centuries. So all that you and the supposed modernisation, and feminism movement are doing are simply end time trait's, deceiving people against the teachings of the Bible thinking you know more than the Apostle Paul. But the word of God can never change to suit you. My advice to you and everyone else like you is to repent. 2 Tim 3: 16 say's that all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

Deborah in the Old Testament was used by God as a judge. During that time the judge was like the king of Israel. Priscilla and Aquila instructed Apollo. Priscilla was a female and she ministered with Paul.

What about the daughters of Phillip who prophesied to Paul. There are even evidence that there was a female apostles.

Go and study the 2nd and 3rd century Christianity you will realize women were greatly used by God.

You can't come here and be making statements about things you know nothing about. Have you studied the history of Christianity? How are you so sure women were sidelined since the beginning of the church?

Please don't open your mouth and be saying things you don't know.

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livingchrist:

According to you confused article eklesia has two different meaning one for Jews and one for gentiles, see how satan has confused you.

Paul wrote that eklesia is the body of Christ in Colosians who were majorly greeks, so where is the origin of your theory?

So are you saying the people of Colossian never used the word "ekklesia" before Paul wrote that letter to them?

Are you saying the Greek have not been using this word before Jesus came?

And if they've used the word before, in what context do they used it?

This is a simple thing. It is people who are willfully blind that will refuse to see.

livingchrist:

You love mentioning ignorance as if you just found out the word.

The bible is clear enoung only heretics start contending with the bible because the want to bring in satanic doctrines.

If these verses do not tell you what the church is, then sorry for you!

Retrace your steps,

Ephesians 5:23
For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.

Colossians 1:18
And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

Colossians 1:24
Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:


You dont need any greek dictionary to interpret it to you.

The church is not a mere discussion group but the body of Jesus himself.

And where in my article did I say the Church is not the body of Christ?

Can you see how ignorance can blind a person?

Techguy96:

U said they understood that Greek was the most widely use language, were u in their thought process, how did u know what they figured out or did not figure out, u first paragraph was mere assumptions.
I could also assume a Greek scholar wrote the New Testament n it was just mere literature n story taken to far by the Roman Catholic.

I agree with ur second paragraph but common, read Paul’s teaching very well, just look at the examples above on his opinions about women.
To be honest Paul’s teacher were mainly his opinion n laws of Israel has nothing to do with Jesus.

Well, you can believe whatever you want to believe, but that doesn't mean it's true.

HedwigesMaduro:
I've always tried to pass this same message across, but it is hard for people who have been brought up with a tradition to unlearn that tradition and do the right thing. May God help us in Jesus Name.

The message will spread to places they can't ignore. They will be forced to face the truth or give way

livingchrist:
You are confused

Did you even take time to research the meaning "Ecclesia", and the origin of the word?

Or you just love your ignorance?