Jackanda1:

I don't believe in Santa clause, budha or mohammed and i don't see the need to spend time bashing them online. For someone to put in so much effort resisting the work of fiction it's either anger,depression or madness.

I'm only interested in answering questions from geniune and honest atheist.

You are still insisting on an irrelevant point while actively evading confronting the point of a post you yourself originally started.

Dishonesty seem to be a trademark of folks here when confronted with difficulties in justifying their own arguments. Lol

Dtruthspeaker:


Consemned for doing what, is the question.

And the question is, have you not done things you could and should be condemned for?

If you have, then you are condemned already.whether you believe in Christ or not.

And knowing tbis, is what leads to the question what does belief in Christ mean since we are already guilty and condemnable? But this question is of course for only those who understand the meaning of being condemned and definitely do not want to remain so.

For since the beginning to the end of the bible God had always clearly stated what makes a person liable to be condemned and not one of these is because of a mere refusal to believe in Him.

Read the Bible quote again perhaps slowly.

18Whoever believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."

Again, you are either aren't reading the Bible or being deliberately dishonest.

The biblical deity right from the old testament has viewed unbelief and worship of other gods as sins punishable.

PoliteActivist:


*Politeness*
You don't understand, he effectively said it was all handed to him and refused to take personal credit for any of it.

That belief is irrelevant to everyone else.

How many lifetimes would it take you to figure out just one of the things he figured out - example, that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, and not a force in the earth pulling you towards it?? And if you did figure it out wouldn't you be so proud of yourself??

Hence, it makes him and expert and authority in his field not an authority in what is real.

PoliteActivist:


Einstein's expertise was beyond scientific because at the time he came up with these things they were based entirely on his thinking - but later proved correct in real life. So if based on same his thinking he concluded that free will is an illusion, you better pay attention. Based on his antecedents, Einstein wouldn't believe golden dragons existed unless there is high probability they actually do exist!

Lol. It is called theoretical physics - it is based on mathematics.

Einsteins expertise on relativity again does not make him an authority on reality it makes him an authority on relativity.

Jackanda1:
Before i answer you, i see from your posts that you spend alot of time talking against GOD and the bible.

This is shocking for someone who doesn't believe in the existence of God.

Why do you spend so much time and effort fighting the work of fiction?

Could it be that you know the Bible is true but you're hidding it from us?

Do you have beef with GOD?

Please tell us the truth.

You are remarkably dishonest person. No one checked your posts before answering the question you asked because it is irrelevant to that point.

You bringing up a completely irrelevant matter and dwelling on that instead of addressing the problem he raised which plays into the original point of the post alludes to your dishonesty.

You should work on that.

Answer his question.

PoliteActivist:


Nope, this is his particular area of knowledge and expertise: insight into the true nature of our reality and existence. Read again what's posted in the OP: "considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality.)"
Someone who all by himself, in his study, through what he called "thought experiments" was able to determine that space and time are one fabric (space-time), that mass is condensed energy (E=mC²), that gravity is just a curvature in space-time, that nothing can travel faster than light, that a person on earth would age 50 times faster than a person traveling near speed of light, black holes, teleportation, time travel, etc! Then he refused to take credit for any of it - apparently because the answers were given to him!

Einsteins expertise was scientific and last I checked there is a distinction between that and spiritualism.

Einstein's beliefs are not science and hence bears no scientific relevance to anyone... Recognizing his insights on science bears no weight on his insights on metaphysical matters.

Einstein can believe golden dragons exist, his remarkable work on theory of relativity does not make that any less idiotic neither does it make him an authority in determining what is real.

Dtruthspeaker:


No where did God Say He punishes people for their unbelief. What He did Say is that no evil person will go unpunished.

JOHN 3:17 "For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn* the world, but that the world might be saved through him. 18Whoever believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God."

Is it that you don't know your own Bible or you were just being dishonest?

So, how do you want to play this?

Threads like this often raise important questions yet when you open it, the OP is just a hot mess of incoherent babble. No meaningful sequence, the question isn't effectively addressed and Bible verses thrown in at writers whims.

All in all it ends up making unjustified conclusions that often times is not justified by the contents of the post.

You guys needs to do better because something like this does not inspire engagement or discussion.

Education for Muslim northerners in Nigeria is a matter of national emergency.

Jackanda1:
Dear atheist who don't believe in the concept of spirits, devil and God.

But assuming you grow old and die one day, then suddenly appear before satan himself. Realizing that you have been decieved into thinking the supernatural doesn't exist.

What would you say to satan? What would be your reaction?

Absolutely nothing.

Knowing fully well that Jesus and Bible was real the whole time.
What would you do?

I'd have no regret either way because a God that is so mundane and petty that he punishes people for unbelief (you would think that something powerful enough to create the cosmos is above such petty vulnerabilities and insecurities), a God that petty and small as to punish unbelief isn't far remove from what you'd imagine Satan to be.

So my question to you is, why is your conviction a dividend of your fear of the unknown? Don't you see how that betrays its shallow insincerity?

PoliteActivist:
*Politeness*
Atheists & Religionists,
Considering that Einstein is arguably the most insightful human that has ever lived (in terms of insight into the true nature of our reality), how do you reconcile these his views with your beliefs? Especially juxtaposed with traits of an "old soul" below.

So basically, your question is making the assumption that since Einstein was insightful in one area of knowledge, his insight in other areas should carry the same weight enough for Atheists to try and reconcile their beliefs with his?

Do you see the problem with that thought?

Image123:


APC will get the votes while i help to ignore the insults. Elections is not a game of insults but numbers.

Elections are not games, it's people's lives, future, wellbeing.

There's no personal victories or loss in elections, if the wrong man wins, everyone, irrespective of who they support, loses. Everyone.

If the right man wins, everyone wins.

After all this years, you still fail to improve on your thought processes and how you approach relevant issues.

This is not a game, it's our lives for God's sake. Jesus! ��‍♂️

CoronaVirusRelo:


Smh….

2023 will humble you!

2015 didn't just humble those who did not support Buhari, it humbled even Buhari supporters.

Everyone in this country is equally partaking in the increased hardship and insecurity no matter who they voted.

We all lost after Buhari won.

So, if we vote wrong in 2023, it will humble all of us including you.

Elections are not personal Victories. If the wrong person wins, the whole country loses (all of us irrespective of who you voted for will lose).

But if the right person wins, all of us wins.

It's up to you search your soul and know this isn't about humbling anyone and more about doing what is best for everyone.

Tobdek:
I'm an atheist. Something strange happened to me today and I can't stop thinking about it.

Someone mistakenly sent me airtime this morning. He called me to resend it because he wanted to send it to his father. A while later, he called me to thank me and gave the phone to his father who thanked me profusely and prayed for me. His father told me that he was an ifa priest from Ile ife.He told me to go and buy pure water and call him back in exactly three minutes. I decided not to but I was curious to hear what he wanted to say.

I called him and to my surprise, this man told me my surname! It felt so strange. He told me to ask for three things I want. He asked me if I had gotten the pure water, I told him no and he said I should go and buy it and call him back. I don't know if he's a scammer or a real priest. This has never happened to me before.

Cc Hahn
Hopefullandlord
Seun
Martinez39s
Johnydon22
Lordreed
Hardmirror
Pansophist

Looks like scam bro

Why?

aisha1314:
Recently converted from Christianity to being an atheist though I haven't told anyone yet. When I resume university hopefully in a matter of weeks now that ASUU strike will soon be over, I may leave a note somewhere for my mom to find about my conversion.
I feel religion is just too controlling and restrictive for me. Besides I can't even remember the last time I prayed or read the Bible so I just thought, what's the point of calling myself a Christian when I have clearly lost all my faith in God?

Don't be hasty to tell anyone about that. Other people knowing that information doesn't help you in anyway.

"Accept my love or I hurt you" is an idea we all will recoil at its thought.

If a man said to a lady, "accept my love, love me and be my girlfriend and you will be cared for, happy, everything you want will be given on to you. But if you choose not to love me, accept me or be mine, I am going to torture you and make your life miserable"

Anyone who hears the above would immediately make the man out to be a blackmailer, a horrible person, deserving of no love.

Would you say she is saved if she accepts his love? No, you won't because the person offering love is also same person offering torture should she choose the contrary.

But by Christian dogma, you could call it salvation for her to accept his love. Such abusive, blackmailing and horrifying relationship dynamics is worth celebrating by Christian sensibility because it represents Christian relationship with the Christian God.'

Christians are obsessed with the idea of salvation, of being saved from damnation. Accepting Jesus as your Lord and savior is the sure path to this salvation.

However, the Christian God also is believed by christians to be the creator of everything, the set the rules, he damns those he finds unworthy of "salvation".

Think about it. When a Christian is saying he or she is saved, they are saying they are saved by God from what God would do to them if they didn't accept God as their lord and savior

Christians are not saved from any external force beyond God's control, they are saved from the wrath of God.

How is it salvation if the same person offering salvation is responsible for damnation?

It is not, it cannot be.

Just as the abusive man above isn't offering the lady in the analogy salvation, the Christian God isn't offering anyone salvation. Both are simply blackmailing their victims with torture.

Take your time, think about it. Who exactly is God saving you from?

virginboy1:

Longest time Oga Johnny

Big man, how you dey?

MaxInDHouse:

NO!
The true God doesn't work in mystery but according to plan. So all you need to do is find out His plans in other to grasp what He is doing!

How do you find out his plan, let me guess, read the bible?

oaroloye:
SHALOM!

Dude it has been at least 5 years, you still do this?

MaxInDHouse:
He is working but it's only the humbly and those with listening ears can perceive what God is doing right before their noses!

Well, that is convenient. Another way to say the famous now obsolete "works in mysterious ways"

MrBrownJay1:
so some people with a brain actually believe in that "what god cannot do" BS?!?!?!

look around you... if that god really answered prayers then there wouldnt be so many desperate miserable people in churches. innocent children dying, innocent xtian dying everyday by the thousands, innocent people dying by thousands of natural disasters, illnesses etc

You'd be surprised how profoundly people believe that no_nsense.

Dtruthspeaker:


You are mad for saying this and the mere fact that you insult God because of this, in The Name of The Lord, your suffering shall be worse than you have ever seen. It shall not go well with you.

Here comes those who are offended for God. lol

Did God not warn you all to turn away from evil and He Would heal the land?

Did He not warn that a time cometh when you shall call but He will not Answer?

And that the world would be plunged into evil?

After all these warnings and people did not Listen to God, yet, you came to insult God for all that you suffer.

Cursed are you and cursed shall you be. No Good thing shall come your way Only Evil, as is Written "Evil purseuth Sinners"!

So, the mere fact Nigerians pray a lot and go to places that they call church, does not mean that they are people of God.

No, they are not and God can not hear their prayers after all when they were supposed to hear Him, they did not listen to Him!

Very convenient excuse to explain away why God is more concerned about healing pimples and saving bibles from burning instead of actually, you know, doing things that are relevant and necessary.

Hermes119:
long time bro

My guy! How have you been?

"What God cannot do does not exist" is a mantra that every Nigerian is familiar with due to its overuse. It however is amazing how for such confidence in the miracle of God, Nigerians who consistently don't see evidence of this keeps peddling that narrative.

In Nigeria today, there are huge social, political, infrastructural, health, security and economic problems facing the country, the solution to which borders on miracles.

Nigerians are amongst the most religious and prayerful people in the planet yet things keeps getting worse. But testimonies are given every day on how God healed pimples, how houses was razed to the ground but the bible or Koran remain untouched.

You hear the so called miracle being nothing more than a plethora of s_illy inference of supernatural intervention in the most mundane, irrelevant and unnecessary event, it is difficult to watch; while Christians are rejoicing over a dream, m_uslims are seeing the Arabic pattern of the word 'A_llah' everywhere.

There truly seem to be nothing God can do that forces people who believe in God to desperately claw to infer miracles and even in the most subtle hint of the supernatural to keep their faith alive.

Can people not think and see how the potency of their beliefs seems to hinge on the ascription of the most trivial events that can naturally occur to be evidence of the divine? That is the lowest bar there is.

A more appropriate quote would be "What God can do, does not exist."

MaxInDHouse:
According to Genesis 1:31 it was a PERFECT world!

Is the world imperfect now?

Dtruthspeaker:
Men people are so unjust and evil.

Clearly, God created a perfect world then by the doing the will of Satan, man ruined it.

But now seeing this ruin, this evil is now speaking upside down.

If the world had a potentiality to be ruined, that in itself is an imperfection of state. Hence, God couldn't have possibly created a perfect world. If God created a perfect world, such a world would have no potentiality to be ruined. It remains unchangingly perfect.

seguno2:


Hindus and Buddhists are quite violent in their own territories. They are not so relevant to us in Nigeria, compared with Christianity and Islam.

Exactly just as Islam is not as relevant as Christianity in southern Nigeria where these atheists are mostly from.

Get it?

seguno2:


You don’t think the greater violence of Muslims count

Not necessarily, that would mean Hindus or Buddhists are just as violent because as you know they don't get shit on as much too.

Atheists who were once muslims seem to be anti-Islam more

Nairaman001:
On this “official”” day of celebration all around the world, I would like to pose a question to all the “atheists” in the house, Are y’all atheists or anti Christian?

I mean I notice that most atheists in their arguments seem to be negatively biased against Christianity and not really the whole concept of God, Allah, Buddha etc .

Note: when I say Antichristian I don’t mean Muslims, Buddhists etc, but I mean like atheists, you get?

Note: Don’t be a close minded to what I asked there is a real difference between an atheist and an anti Christian

I think the reason most atheist you interact with seem to focus chiefly on the judeochristian faith is because they once were under the judeochristian faith and Christianity has more influence around them than any other religion.

They don't need to argue against Muslim deity or Vishnu as these deities are of no consequence to their immediate sphere of influence.

The Bible is littered with instances of God showing favoritism.

In fact, the whole basis of thy judeochristian faith stems fundamentally from the idea of God's favoritism

OtemAtum:
can you elucidate please?

Here are his basic assumptions

"This is an hypothetical situation,
A man, Let's say Mr A, was able to somehow lay hold on a nuke that could destroy all humanity at a bottom, and he is determined to detonate"

This whole post was built fundamentally on the above assumption, so its answer does not lie in trying to rationalize how else the problem can be solved. The assumptions he presented only gave one option, convince the nuke man otherwise, no other.

You must answer within that given premise, anything else simply is missing the point. It is a hypothetical assumption that doesn't require you to rationalize more than the information and assumptive parameters it presents.