7lives:

Fueling stations greed.
Imagine #400 naira profit on a litre.
And na Dem dey evade tax well well.
How I wished Shango can just visit all these mad people, so that we can have some sanity in this country.

It is not fueling stations greed. Price from Dangote may be a bit lower, but when you load at the depot you will still pay NUPENG charges, truck hire fees, PPPRA charges etc.

All this adds up, at the send of the day.

Cost of hiring a truck is now high. Not all fuel stations own their own trucks.

Even the ones who do, must fuel and maintain it. All this adds to logistics costs at the end of the day.

And the same costs are added to the sales price of the fuel at the stations.

It is even becoming increasingly expensive, to run a station properly.

You need to factor in cost of diesel for the generators at the station. You cannot change prices at the pump, when you change over your power supply to gen, after DISCOs take light.

Another thing is that state govt taxes have increased. Go and find out out much LASAA, LASPA etc are charging for signboard and car parks in Lagos.

Local government taxes nkó? Those ones are constant.

Abeg, forget this APC government. As they are giving 1 drop of ease to you with one hand, they are using 2 or more hands to take away the same benefits, through the back door.

GAZZUZZ:

Great topic of discussion.

Diesel (compression ignition) conversion to CNG (spark ignition)

Full CNG conversion would involve replacing

Head cylinder
Pistons
Timing and ignition components
Introduce a distributor.

Aim to run engine on CNG . Only other fueling that can be introduced is petrol.

Is the other option petrol?

No, there is no other option. Only CNG was adopted as a mono-fuel.

Oga, you need to read my previous post with an open mind.

Every detail was covered and the whole conversion was clarified.

GAZZUZZ:


diesel engine , retrofit CNG .

Blending a mixture of intake air and natural gas , aim to bring down the amount of diesel burnt.

Same compression ignition engine used. Ecu and CNG injectors introduced to monitor performance.

When you run out of CNG , system switches back to diesel .

When you run out of diesel system shuts down

Is this what you are talking about?

No, this is not what I am talking about. After the retrofit, there is no diesel usage in the vehicle. Only Autogas CNG is used all through, because it is a mono conversion.

Diesel tank is even taken out. So nowhere to store diesel in the vehicle.

Dual-fuel conversion will mean that the vehicle uses both diesel and CNG, and can switch between both sources of fuel.

Kewtt:

I only quoted the minimum

Minimum of what?? Different vehicles use different types of conversion kits.

Kits from places like India and China are cheaper than those from Germany and Poland, for small vehicles. Oga, abeg rest.

GAZZUZZ:

No one does a mono retrofit for CNG in vehicles.

You would know that if you researched.

I have seen people who do a mono retrofit for their petrol and diesel engines, in order to convert to gas. Stop talking about what you do not know.

I have friends who work for an Autogas company in Lagos. I was even part of one of their workshops in Lagos in 2021, and we saw vehicles they converted to run on mono Autogas CNG.

The owner of the vehicles was an expatriate who was tired of their drivers stealing diesel from their large trucks, and siphoning petrol from their official cars.

Their factory was already running on natural gas as they were located close to a pipeline in Ogun state.

Kewtt:

Jarigbe said Nipco Gas Ltd obtained N25 billion (N25,000,000,000.00), Nipco Plc got N5 billion (N5,000,000,000.00),
Total of 30Billion yams

Is this fact or hearsay?? Any link to any government publication, where this can be verified?

Kewtt:

It is NOT half a million naira. It is approximately one million naira at least.

Cost depends on the type of vehicle being converted. Different types of conversion kits are used for different models of vehicles. OEM conversion kits cost, is also different from one another.

So the cost of conversion kits & labour, varies.

GAZZUZZ:
CNG to flood Lagos April .

CNG will not flood Lagos. Stop misleading people! Haba.

So only 4 stations that have been opened in far places will make flood Lagos?? Really? Or you think the readers of your page, are not educated enough to read between the lines?

Must you exaggerate and use propaganda to get your point across?

Kewtt:
Nonsense .... Anytime gazzuzz talks about CNG....ask him for the explicit conversion costs.

He will only give you the price in USD, and not in naira, so that people will not easily be able to get clarity on the costs.

There is NO component of the CNG conversion kit, that is manufactured locally.

How much do people earn? That they will spend over half a million or more to convert their vehicles?

Gazzuz is just promoting his new found business.

He is not interested in whether it is a sustainable solution or not.

I advise people always to do a dual-fuel conversion that can use both CNG and petrol, and NOT a mono-fuel conversion that uses only CNG.

Otherwise, if CNG runs out in your car and you are far from an Autogas CNG station, you will be stranded on the road.

Just rent a towing van when this happens to you....

Kewtt:

Not true relative to how much billions of naira they collected from the government.

Tell us please, how much did they collect from government?

jmoore:
It is 1 million times better to use electric cars than CNG powered ones.

One can use generator to charge electric cars. But there are no retail CNG refill stations.
There is no infrastruture for CNG in Nigeria.

That is what we have been saying since oh! There are 774 local governments in Nigeria. Less than 8 have Autogas CNG stations where motorists can refuel their cars using CNG.

Yet some folks are beating their chest about doing conversions and also making noise about how Tinubu set up pCNGi committee!

Let me laugh very well in my language.

If not for the fact that LPG costs has gone up, it is still much better to convert to Autogas LPG, since so many LPG gas skids and LPG Gas plants are all over the place, in every single state and in majority of local government areas nationwide.

GAZZUZZ:

Compression ignition and spark ignition are 2 totally different systems.

While you can lower the amount of diesel burnt by feeding a blend mix of CNG or lpg , it is still a technology I currently do not subscribe to.

A full conversion which involves , cylinder head swap, pistons, and the introduction of a spark ignition system is a more expensive but stable approach.

"It is a more expensive, but stable approach?" Stable, in what sense? For how many people? So other options are not stable?

Right now, you do not even have adequate infrastructure in-country, to retail Autogas CNG into cars and generators. How many places are close to a gas pipeline? Very few.

So people will need to depend on a virtual pipeline with mobile cascades etc, as well as just very few gas stations, in case they need to refuel.

So of what use is the total conversion if a car cannot refuel with Autogas CNG in his own neighborhood? In the entire southwest region of 5 states, only 2 Autogas CNG stations exist. Ibafo and Ikorodu. Period.

Dual-fuel systems make far more sense, because if the car runs out of gas, it can keep moving with the other fuel, whether it is petrol or diesel, until it finally gets to where it can refuel, or until new stock of CNG is obtained.

So Öga, no need for this long story. We all know how it goes. pCNGi was set up to chop money, and do very little.

There are other committees and associations, that have been driving the adoption of gas for years, using private efforts with very little government support, that have achieved much more than anything this pCNGi can ever hope to achieve.

When NIPCO started converting taxis in Benin to run on CNG before 2014, where was government? Which committee was set up to drive them?

Other bodies like NLGPA, and NGA as well as NGEP have done so much work in the gas sector. But since this government wants to create food for the boys, it had to set up pCNGi.

Una well done. Everyone is watching in 3D. Man must wack, not so?

GAZZUZZ:


The government through the PCNGI already started by converting a number vehicles in the public sector for free. It is a continuous quiet process that is not heavily publicized reason we all don't get to hear about it. Currently The army is receiving free training and free kits for a number of military vehicles via the PCNGI, gradually it will trickle down in phases as the kits arrive .


For number 2 there are 2 options. One is attaching the cylinders and reducers to a vehicle .

The other is a standalone device which I have invented but not released pending a patent .

The standalone device should become very popular very soon. You can dm on Whatsapp for more info on that .

"Conversion of cars for the public for free," is nothing more than empty propaganda. Please do not peddle this false tale.

Most of the vehicles converted so far, are just for govt ministries.

Even under Buhari, cars were converted to run on Autogas LPG for PPPRA, and NNPC subsidiaries.

Then they claimed that over a million Autogas kits were imported, which was a big fat lie!

Autogas conversion kits are expensive. They run into hundreds of thousands of naira, per vehicle. Not cheap. A few Innoson buses were also converted for Labour, which was less than 10 units.

So for government to offer free conversion to the public, it would cost multimillions of naira, which they cannot do for now.

Finally, you did not answer his question about converting diesel generator to gas. How would this be done?

To the best of my knowledge, only EGORAS in Anambra has been able to do this successfully, with minimal issues.

FreeStuffsNG:
Adegboye said she sees the deportation order from federal immigration officials as a death sentence for her family, which now includes two more children who were born in Canada.

She issued a plea for Canada to reverse the deportation so she can continue to build a life for her children and care for her patients.

Obviously, she's lying! The family is lying by raising religious persecution. They are Yoruba and in Yorubaland there's no religious persecution. The 3 religion of Christianity, Islam and Yoruba traditional Isese religion exist side by side even in every family and community. She should have been honest enough to state the main reason instead of denigrating her place.

This is what you get when you build your lives on lies. Truth will eventually catch up with you.

If you check her background now, she's probably one of those educated with tax payers money and on graduation deserted the nation for a foreign country that made zero investment in their public education before leaving Nigeria.

We have patients in Nigeria too and we need more health workers too. Please come back home with dignity, your children are watching and learning from you if you build their lives on lies. They will grow up not seeing anything wrong with lying and denigrating their origin.

God bless Nigeria for ever! Check my signature for free stuffs!

You need health workers, but you refuse to pay the ones that work in public hospitals in Naija. That is why they are always going on strike, in the medical sector.

Some of you just make empty noise.

GloriousGbola:

The Government is seriously planning on CNG. As I write this I am working on part of the design of the second of over 50 projects converting /upgrading petrol stations to autogas ie supplying lpg and cng for vehicles. Unfortunately these things take time. Design to tender to construction to handover. There is a lot of pressure and it is made worse by bizarre cheaping out by the project sponsor. A single project will probably take 9 months from contract award, if we are lucky.

The other major marketers also have their own plans. A friend had me do a quick mockup of a multi energy retail station.

A company named Greenville rolled out preliminary cng stations as far back as 2013 and seem to now be bringing them online.

We will have to hang in there

I only hope once cng comes on stream we will not see the same weird spike in price that we saw with lpg. Lpg has risen from 6k for 12.5 kg in May to 11k now. And it is not imported but sourced from nlng. At some point the govt may step in.

As for electric cars, electricity is only commercially viable for bikes and keke napep imho

A regular ev will take 8 hours to charge on a normal outlet. On a fast charging outlet 1 hour will require 30kva. 30 minutes in the range of 50kva. Izzou can do the maths. We don't have steady power yet so you are spending on diesel

A 50kva gen brand new and unfked with burns 11 litres per hour. Cost of diesel at 1200 is 13200 to charge the car in 30 minutes. That is the base cost as other costs will be factored in. So a 30 minute charge for a consumer vehicle may come to 20 or 25k or more. Now multiply that for buses. For buses it gets much harder as you have to have a central charging hub and the buses must have enough charge for a working day. And a bus may require 200kva for an hour charge.

Solar power cannot replace conventional fossil fuels. You want solar in your home, you understand immediately that it is a spartan existence. Acs, iron, kettle will immediately hammer your battery life. You keep it simple and stick to lights and electronics and new fridge / freezer. Unless you have DEEP pockets and can invest in expensive solutions. But this can't work commercially. In the places where it is used, there are govt subsidies in place.

Fast charging may be cheaper for smaller vehicles. Keke napep bikes, korope. However the the technology for these is out of China. Oyibos get apple designed in California quality from China. Nigerians on the other hand get designed in cottage industry with collaboration from dodgy hustlers quality. What I like to call showroom warranty. Works fine in the showroom but after that you are oyo.

You said you are working on "part of the design of the second of over 50 projects converting /upgrading petrol stations to autogas ie supplying lpg and cng for vehicles..."

What kind of design again?

Is it not to put LPG skids in the forecourt of petrol stations, and work out a revenue sharing agreement with such stations?

Are you building fresh petrol stations from scratch? Why do people like reinventing the wheel?

As for CNG fueling, you need to installed mini CNG cascades and skids in fuel stations. But because of size constraints since these things are large, it would be better to install them in big mega stations that have a lot of space.

It is not rocket science.

So what design work is needed again? Or is it the design to be submitted to DPR for the licenses?

Abeg, this government is paying lip service to the deployment of Autogas nationwide.

When NIPCO deployed Autogas in Benin over 15 years ago, how much design work did they do?

Till today, some if their stations trading under the name NIPCO/Greenfuels, is still dispensing Autogas CNG into taxis and buses, in Benin.

GAZZUZZ:


CNG can be used for cooking I am currently developing safe domestic solutions . Stay tuned and follow my pages for more info .

https://youtube.com/shorts/BsinUyfH0q0?si=10xfqI9fiMp5wNer

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZM6orCeoH/

Please what type of conversion kits do you use to retrofit the cars? Do you have licenses and approvals from OEMs of these conversion kits?

What about after sales support? Do you offer it?

greatness22:
...And after the AFCON, the youths goes back to being jobless.

Create jobs for the youths, not viewing center you'll tell the media that you used N450mil to set up.


“E bi pa wa” is not a political slogan, it's the reality on ground.

You sèf, you don see am. Their modus operandi is to launch propaganda and palliatives.

Things that make no sense and solve zero problems, in the long term.

Cardoso can lie!! What kind of fall will happen? Will the private refineries not buy crude at international prices? Will the materials and equipment used during the refining process, not be maintained by engineers using foreign parts and materials bought in USD?

The only thing that will be reduced is cost of international freight of crude, if all the crude is sourced locally. And cost of freight is a small percentage of overall cost. Na wa, o.

The loans taken by Dangote in USD to build that refinery have to be repaid now at a higher forex rate!

And yet, Cardoso expects cost of refined petroleum products to come down?

What brand of Sapele water are they offering him in CBN?

Armaggedon:
This one wants Igala to hate Biafra by all means.

For your info, overwhelming majority of Idoma and lower Igala are madly pro Biafra. These places would've been in the East if not for British colonial antics and anti Igbo gerrymandering that carved Igbo related groups into the north to increase North's influence over the rest of the country.

See this one. You sabi lie, shá. Which Igala? The one I know, where my relatives are from? Abi, another one inside your dreams?

Where is TSTV Office in Lagos??

Ybaby:
Let me give a lesson in inheritance.

Davido's grandfather was the creator of banana island abi na developer of banana island

He gave his kids some land that is Davido's father and Davido's father gave his own kids

https://pmnewsnigeria.com/2022/03/13/adeleke-buys-another-land-for-davido-in-banana-island/
Nigerian billionaire, Adedeji Adeleke has purchased another land for his son, Davido, in Banana Island, Lagos.

and Davido has promised to build the craziest crib for his kids

Davido says he's about to build the craziest crib ever in ...https://www.pulse.ng › Entertainment › Celebrities
— "I'm boutta build some crazy shit for the kids," he said at that time. The music star recently opened his new home in Banana Island.

This is how they are a wealthy family... working hard and passing on generational wealth. You gerrit!?

Stop eating at home - your dad can eliminate you if he gets the chance he is a bully, a greedy man and has a keen sense of entitlement with no understanding of lineage.

I like that your mum's kins men said even you cannot sell which is what my dad told me too about my inheritance - they are for the kids coming - the rent is mine sha but the asset is for the generation

Ole ni popsi eh o .... ma sa fun won

You know how to tell big lies, shá! Davido's grandfather WAS NOT the man who developed Banana Island.

Davido's grandfather was a politician who is NOT related to Chief Adebayo Adeleke who developed Banana Island.

Get your facts right. The names are similar because Adeleke is a very common Yoruba Name, borne by tons of families from different parts of Yoruba land.

nairalanda1:

The internet space was limited back then to Nigerians living overseas, and highly educated Nigerians.

Back then, most folks did not have access to the internet in this country. No home internet, and the only internet access for most was the internet cafe which cost money.

Eventually, MTN and ECONET and glo expanded internet services for all

Is that what you think, or what you know? Because you just joined Nairaland in 2023.

Those who were already here from 2005 and beyond, would not see it that way. Many of them were based in Nigeria.

And Glo, Econet, MTN etc started in early 2001. So people had internet access back then through laptops, desktops, cybercafes etc.

GLeesMODEL:
ELITE SOLAR KIOSK TO ENHANCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS


The COVID-19 pandemic has brought negative economic consequences in the form of job losses, threatened the sustainability of firms and depressed growth in GDP. Nigeria has the challenge of a large informal sector that is most vulnerable to the effects of the pandemic. Nigeria’s informal sector is also the employer of the largest number of citizens. The federal government and other stakeholders must roll out measures to provide temporary support to the informal sector. Nigeria must design and roll out measures to support targeted groups and individuals in this sector.

The need to continuously drive Nigeria's economy through support for small business may have become eminent. Recently, an innovative solar powered cubicle , known as Elite Solar kiosk is playing a key role to bridge the gap and create opportunities for SMEs, especially with the persisting challenges posed by the vicious Covid19 pandermic


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkvpR-HxU50

https://leadership.ng/covid-19elite-solar-kiosk-to-enhance-opportunities-for-small-business-owners/

How much does it cost?

What are the sizes and dimensions?

Kindly confirm....

okadbest:
These are solar powered mini kiosks that can be used for various businesses such as barber shop, grocery shop,
tailoring, agency banking, phone charging, Telco agents selling, recharge
cards and SIM registration among other things.

Built with re reinforced wood and protected with metal. It is made study and detachable for ease of movement. 

Various sizes exists and can be re designed - 
1.2m by1.2m 
1.4m by 1.6m 
1.5m by1.8m 

Varying costs depending on what solar add-ons are added.

Each diPOWER Kiosk comes at least with a Solar Panel, inverter, battery, 1 bulb and a charging multi station.

Add ons suited for barbing salon, or money banking transfer and others will make cost vary.

Please call on us to know specific cost of your desired kiosks with add-ons suited to your taste.

How much are they? And how much will a 2.5m x 3m size cost?

okadbest:
Sorry folks. We construct to specification. Ok below are just a few.

How much is the plain red one? And what size is it?

Ologbo147:
Probs you are too much I thought I was the only one that figured this out. I have noticed this too with eastern yourba especially Owo. I have played some Owo songs, I was shocked at the very ancient Edoid-like tone

Some Edo communities and Owo share a border and intermarriages have existed between Edo and Owo for centuries.

Bini/Edo incursion into Owo in the past before colonial times, is well documented and there are even folktales and songs that even bear witness to their battles and skirmishes, which recall the battles they had in the past.

So why is it so strange to see the relationship between these two places??

chukel:
most Nigerian youths are not employable. All they know is hurling insults on social media and looking for free giveaway. Very lazy lots.

How did you arrive at this conclusion? Did you do a survey or did you conduct any research into this? Kindly share the link so everyone can verify.

650k, final offer. You 'gree or you no 'gree?

No picture? How can we know it is real?

whofoolwho:
Ibos be warned! This is a grand plan to let you people know what will happen to your investment when ........pls know where to put your investment.open your eyes wella

Why are you so clueless?? Ask God for wisdom please....

Adiob200:
Hearing the news that kerosene is #800 per litre, and petrol is #200..and demand for petrol is higher than kerosene.. Why is it like that?

There is no subsidy on kerosene.
It is priced like diesel. Both products are not subsidised, but sold at the open market commercial rate.

philip0906:

You were the first person to mention anything about “feeding”. I obliged you and told you to get yours, look at you here still gnashing your teeth.

Like I said earlier, get back to me when you’re done feeding yourself.

Eéyah....you are simply getting worked up over food. It seems you cannot afford to fees yourself, because hunger is really dealing with you. Sorry, o....