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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 11:08am On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


What are their names?

And who did they gave it to?

We know Abraham by name.

We knew who he gave the tithe.

What are the names of the Jews that gave tithe in the new testament and the names of those they gave those tithes?

We are waiting

Kindly tell us Jesus lied in Matthew 23 v 23.

Thanksful is implying Jesus lied when he mentioned the scribes and Pharisees tithed.

This guy knows next to nothing. The Jews gave a portion of their tithes to the Levites, and ate the rest.

Read Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 slowly let it sink into your head.

Now please;

1. Show us 10 examples gentile Christians that tithed in the Bible.

2. Show us the book, chapter and verse where God demanded tithes from the gentiles.

3. Show us the book, chapter and verse where God demanded for money as tithes.


We are patiently waiting.

Cc: achorladey

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 11:15am On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful, did Jesus lie about the Scribes and Pharisees tithing in Matthew 23 v 23 hmmm?

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Cc: Achorladey


It's just amazing the depth of stupidity religious zealots have to reach in order to defend something that has no scriptural basis (gentiles giving monthly monetary tithes!)

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 1:03pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:
Thanksful, did Jesus lie about the Scribes and Pharisees tithing in Matthew 23 v 23 hmmm?

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Cc: Achorladey


It's just amazing the depth of stupidity religious zealots have to reach in order to defend something that has no scriptural basis (gentiles giving monthly monetary tithes!)

The veil to live by the laws set up to cover their face by their religious zealots leaders and the religious organization they already set up is the main problem.

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 1:07pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:


Kindly tell us Jesus lied in Matthew 23 v 23.

Thanksful is implying Jesus lied when he mentioned the scribes and Pharisees tithed.

This guy knows next to nothing. The Jews gave a portion of their tithes to the Levites, and ate the rest.

Read Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 slowly let it sink into your head.

Now please;

1. Show us 10 examples gentile Christians that tithed in the Bible.

2. Show us the book, chapter and verse where God demanded tithes from the gentiles.

3. Show us the book, chapter and verse where God demanded for money as tithes.


We are patiently waiting.

Cc: achorladey


Reality tells me that those questions cannot be supported using the Bible. He should appreciate the freedom the SPIRIT provides than what his religious zealots leaders and organisation are leading him into.

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 2:01pm On Apr 20, 2023
achorladey:



Reality tells me that those questions cannot be supported using the Bible. He appreciate the freedom the SPIRIT provides than what his religious zealots leaders and organisation are leading him into.

Honestly, if he had told me he was led by the Spirit to do what he does, I won't even bother engaging him. As that's between him and the Holy Spirit (goodluck to him if he lies on the Holy Spirit!)

But coming out to twist the scriptures to defend monetary tithing? That unacceptable.
That's eisegisis (imposing one's views on the scriptures) rather than exigesis (letting scripture interpret scripture - let the text speak for itself)

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 3:45pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:


Honestly, if he had told me he was led by the Spirit to do what he does, I won't even bother engaging him. As that's between him and the Holy Spirit (goodluck to him if he lies on the Holy Spirit!)

But coming out to twist the scriptures to defend monetary tithing? That unacceptable.
That's eisegisis (imposing one's views on the scriptures) rather than exigesis (letting scripture interpret scripture - let the text speak for itself)

Thanks for those cool terms EXEGESIS and EISEGESIS many refuse to learn and apply. I later learn about newspaper EXEGESIS sef.

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 3:52pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:
Thanksful, did Jesus lie about the Scribes and Pharisees tithing in Matthew 23 v 23 hmmm?

23 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former.

Cc: Achorladey


It's just amazing the depth of stupidity religious zealots have to reach in order to defend something that has no scriptural basis (gentiles giving monthly monetary tithes!)

Did the holy spirit lie about Jacob giving tithe?
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 3:57pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


Did the holy spirit lie about Jacob giving tithe?

Where did the Holy Spirit say Jacob gave tithe?

Show us the book, chapter and verse please.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 4:18pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:


Kindly tell us Jesus lied in Matthew 23 v 23.

Thanksful is implying Jesus lied when he mentioned the scribes and Pharisees tithed.

This guy knows next to nothing. The Jews gave a portion of their tithes to the Levites, and ate the rest.

Read Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29 slowly let it sink into your head.

Now please;

1. Show us 10 examples gentile Christians that tithed in the Bible.

2. Show us the book, chapter and verse where God demanded tithes from the gentiles.

3. Show us the book, chapter and verse where God demanded for money as tithes.


We are patiently waiting.

Cc: achorladey

Since you can't show me Jews that tithed in the new testament and to whom they gave the tithe to, I see you have nothing to offer after this many weeks of running around.

Let's cut the chess.

Heb 7 : 1 - 28

But I will be picking verse 8

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.


It says, here which mean on earth. Men who die receive tithes.

This is talking about the priest (the Levi).

But there he receives them, of who it is witnessed that he lives.

Who is here talking about?

This place is talking about Jesus Christ. I want you too look that the word receives. It shows Jesus is still receiving tithe. It's not stated in past tense but in present continuous tense.

The later part of that sentence says, "of who it is witnessed that he lives"

Now this is very important. I have maintained that people don't understand tithe. I said earlier that tithe is like communion.

The person "Jesus" people witnessed that he was alive again is the person who receives tithe.

The tithe is a witness of the christian faith that Jesus is alive as a priest.

Verse 17
For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Jesus as a priest for ever, does the job of a priest in heaven. One of which is to receive tithes.

A Christian who gives tithe.

Believes that Jesus is alive in heaven as his or priest
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 4:21pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:


Where did the Holy Spirit say Jacob gave tithe?

Show us the book, chapter and verse please.

Lol! So funny.

It is written, "all scripture is inspired of God".

The holy spirit said Jacob made a vow and didn't tell us he didn't keep it, but show us that Levi is a tithe from Jacob.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:13pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


Since you can't show me Jews that tithed in the new testament and to whom they gave the tithe to, I see you have nothing to offer after this many weeks of running around.

Let's cut the chess.

Heb 7 : 1 - 28

But I will be picking verse 8

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.


It says, here which mean on earth. Men who die receive tithes.

This is talking about the priest (the Levi).

But there he receives them, of who it is witnessed that he lives.

Who is here talking about?

This place is talking about Jesus Christ. I want you too look that the word receives. It shows Jesus is still receiving tithe. It's not stated in past tense but in present continuous tense.

The later part of that sentence says, "of who it is witnessed that he lives"

Now this is very important. I have maintained that people don't understand tithe. I said earlier that tithe is like communion.

The person "Jesus" people witnessed that he was alive again is the person who receives tithe.

The tithe is a witness of the christian faith that Jesus is alive as a priest.

Verse 17
For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Jesus as a priest for ever, does the job of a priest in heaven. One of which is to receive tithes.

A Christian who gives tithe.

Believes that Jesus is alive in heaven as his or priest


You were warned earlier that don't use EISEGESIS but you have to advance the laws, rules and regulations handed over to you by your TASKMASTERS and religious leaders who you follow.

One question in content and context of Hebrew 7: 1-28 was the writer talking about paying TITHE? Was the message in Hebrews 7 about the paying of TITHE?

Yes or No grin grin grin

cc: OKcornel

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:16pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


Lol! So funny.

It is written, "all scripture is inspired of God".

The holy spirit said Jacob made a vow and didn't tell us he didn't keep it, but show us that Levi is a tithe from Jacob.

The question was

Where did the Holy Spirit say Jacob gave tithe?

Your response is

The holy spirit said Jacob made a vow and didn't tell us he didn't keep it


grin grin grin

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 6:20pm On Apr 20, 2023
I purposely refuse to reply you. I can't bring myself down to your level. Check the last time I replied you.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 6:20pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


Lol! So funny.

It is written, "all scripture is inspired of God".

The holy spirit said Jacob made a vow and didn't tell us he didn't keep it, but show us that Levi is a tithe from Jacob.

Show us the book, chapter and verse where the Holy Spirit said "Jacob paid tithe"

Patiently waiting.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 6:25pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


Since you can't show me Jews that tithed in the new testament and to whom they gave the tithe to, I see you have nothing to offer after this many weeks of running around.

Let's cut the chess.

Heb 7 : 1 - 28

But I will be picking verse 8

And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.


It says, here which mean on earth. Men who die receive tithes.

This is talking about the priest (the Levi).

But there he receives them, of who it is witnessed that he lives.

Who is here talking about?

This place is talking about Jesus Christ. I want you too look that the word receives. It shows Jesus is still receiving tithe. It's not stated in past tense but in present continuous tense.

The later part of that sentence says, "of who it is witnessed that he lives"

Now this is very important. I have maintained that people don't understand tithe. I said earlier that tithe is like communion.

The person "Jesus" people witnessed that he was alive again is the person who receives tithe.

The tithe is a witness of the christian faith that Jesus is alive as a priest.

Verse 17
For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Jesus as a priest for ever, does the job of a priest in heaven. One of which is to receive tithes.

A Christian who gives tithe.

Believes that Jesus is alive in heaven as his or priest

Tithes from whom? The Jews or the gentiles?

Read the book you're quoting from. It's HEBREWS (The Israelites), not Galatians, Ephesians, Corinthians, Colossians, Phillipians, Romans (Gentile believers)

I'm still waiting for your answers to these queries;

1. Where did God request tithe from the Gentiles? Show us the book, chapter and verse please.
2. Where did God request for money as tithe? Show us the book, chapter and verse please.
3. Show us where the Apostles requested for tithes from believers.
4. Show us example gentile Christians that tithed in the scriptures.


Patiently waiting.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 6:28pm On Apr 20, 2023
I think I should personal write on tithing because of so much ignorance regarding the topic.

When the first priest appeared on earth. His first assignment was to receive tithe. It wasn't a coincidence.

God didn't bless Abraham. It was the priest of God who received tithe from Abraham that blessed him.

Search the scriptures. All God said to Abraham was.

I will bless you
I will

Genesis 14: 19 - 20

And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:30pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:
I purposely refuse to reply you. I can't bring myself down to your level. Check the last time I replied you.

grin grin grin

I purposely refuse to reply you

Thanks for letting me know grin grin.

I can't bring myself down to your level.

The reason you were told to follow the spirit grin grin The spirit even brought those not his level closer when his disciples tried to chase them away. I know my level jare and you know yours. The discussion is not about competing levels grin grin grin

Check the last time I replied you.

I will and notify you accordingly grin

April 10th, 10:12 am grin grin grin

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:30pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:
I think I should personal write on tithing because of so much ignorance regarding the topic.

When the first priest appeared on earth. His first assignment was to receive tithe. It wasn't a coincidence.

God didn't bless Abraham. It was the priest of God who received tithe from Abraham that blessed him.

Search the scriptures. All God said to Abraham was.

I will bless you
I will

Genesis 14: 19 - 20

And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:

And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

You don run from Hebrews 7 abi?
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 6:31pm On Apr 20, 2023
OkCornel:


Tithes from whom? The Jews or the gentiles?

Read the book you're quoting from. It's HEBREWS (The Israelites), not Galatians, Ephesians, Corinthians, Colossians, Phillipians, Romans (Gentile believers)

I'm still waiting for your answers to these queries;

1. Where did God request tithe from the Gentiles? Show us the book, chapter and verse please.
2. Where did God request for money as tithe? Show us the book, chapter and verse please.
3. Show us where the Apostles requested for tithes from believers.
4. Show us example gentile Christians that tithed in the scriptures.


Patiently waiting.

So now the new testament is about the Jews now not about the gentiles?

I am talking about Jesus the high priest here. That is whom that scripture is talking about.

That he is in heaven receiving tithe.

Whose tithe is he receiving?

The one that believe he is still alive or the one that believe he is dead?
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:37pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


So now the new testament is about the Jews now not about the gentiles?

I am talking about Jesus the high priest here. That is whom that scripture is talking about.

That he is in heaven receiving tithe.

Whose tithe is he receiving?

The one that believe he is still alive or the one that believe he is dead?

If not for your EISEGESIS and the need to propagate your agendas on the Bible you carry,


where in the whole of the Hebrews you quoted states Christians were paying tithes or were to pay tithe in that account. Just one verse is enough grin grin

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 6:39pm On Apr 20, 2023
God had promised Abraham blessings. He needed a human being to release that blessings as he need a human being to pay the ultimate sacrifice for human redemption.

He sent Melchizedek ahead of Abraham. The people who knew Melchizedek as priest didn't know his origin. They never saw his end because he was on a divine assignment.

God swore to Jesus to make his priesthood to be like that of Melchizedek.

What did Melchizedek priesthood accomplished?

It blessed and received tithe.

The bible said Jesus is still in the business of blessing men, women and still receiving their tithe.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 6:46pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:


So now the new testament is about the Jews now not about the gentiles?

I am talking about Jesus the high priest here. That is whom that scripture is talking about.

That he is in heaven receiving tithe.

Whose tithe is he receiving?

The one that believe he is still alive or the one that believe he is dead?

Who was the letter of HEBREWS addressed to? Gentile believers?

This guy has zero understanding of historic context.

Ask yourself why the topic of tithing never featured in letters written to gentile churches! (Romans, Corinthians, Phillipians, Colossians, Galatians, Ephesians) but a letter to the Hebrews.

THINK! God has given you a brain, use it!

Where in the scriptures did God request tithes from Gentiles? Show us.
Where in the scriptures did God request for money as tithes?
Where are the 10 examples of Gentile Christians in the Bible that tithed which you promised to show us?!
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:46pm On Apr 20, 2023
Thanksful:
God had promised Abraham blessings. He needed a human being to release that blessings as he need a human being to pay the ultimate sacrifice for human redemption.

He sent Melchizedek ahead of Abraham. The people who knew Melchizedek as priest didn't know his origin. They never saw his end because he was on a divine assignment.

God swore to Jesus to make his priesthood to be like that of Melchizedek.

What did Melchizedek priesthood accomplished?

It blessed and received tithe.

The bible said Jesus is still in the business of blessing men, women and still receiving their tithe.

Those that didn't pay the tithe will Jesus bless them or they will become poor grin grin grin grin


I want to check something as it relates to the topic of this thread should you provide answer which you won't anyway grin grin grin

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 6:47pm On Apr 20, 2023
Hebrew 8:3

For every high priest is ordained to offer gifts and sacrifices: wherefore it is of necessity that this man have somewhat also to offer.

What gift is Jesus to offer to God if not the tithes of his believers
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 6:52pm On Apr 20, 2023
Talking about the blessing.

God had promised Abraham blessings as he had to all children of God.

He needed a human to pronounce it into existence.

The priest didn't bless Abraham after tithe. He blessed Abraham before he gave him tithe.

But that blessing became activated after the Tithe.

You can see that Genesis 15: 1
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 6:56pm On Apr 20, 2023
The person beyond our level don abandon us ooo grin grin

cc: Okcornel

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:02pm On Apr 20, 2023
If you're worshiping with a group and tithe is mandatory in the group, that's what the spirit they're worshiping requires so failure to join in doing what the spirit wants will result in big trouble. There's no need quoting books once the agent of the spirit has told you what the spirit demands.
Most people feel all religions are for God once the agents are using the Bible but that's not the truth, whatever the agents tell you if you're not OK take your leave it's not by force! smiley

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 7:32am On Apr 21, 2023
Thanksful, listen to this rabbi and unlearn the fraud you call tithing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQsL9HE90o

Cc: achorladey

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Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 10:04pm On Apr 22, 2023
OkCornel:
Thanksful, listen to this rabbi and unlearn the fraud you call tithing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGQsL9HE90o

Cc: achorladey

Who is the rabbi? Nah God abi nah holy spirit?

No one can convince you against the fact that your pastor is taking your money if you see your pastor as your Jesus and your priest who is in heaven.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by OkCornel(m): 10:27pm On Apr 22, 2023
Thanksful:


Who is the rabbi? Nah God abi nah holy spirit?

No one can convince you against the fact that your pastor is taking your money if you see your pastor as your Jesus and your priest who is in heaven.

Well, stupidity is a choice.

Feel free to educate the rabbi since you know Jewish history and rabbinical literature better than him.

We are still awaiting;

1) 10 examples of gentile Christians in the bible which you promised.

2) The book, chapter and verse where God demanded tithes from the gentiles.

3) The book, chapter and verse where God demanded for money as tithes.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by achorladey: 10:40pm On Apr 22, 2023
Thanksful:


Who is the rabbi? Nah God abi nah holy spirit?

No one can convince you against the fact that your pastor is taking your money if you see your pastor as your Jesus and your priest who is in heaven.

So you can still respond and even fell into the trap you set paapaa.
Re: He That Helps The Needy And Not Paying Tithe Will Soon Become Poor,’ Bishop Oyed by Nobody: 7:40pm On Apr 30, 2023
OkCornel:


Well, stupidity is a choice.

Feel free to educate the rabbi since you know Jewish history and rabbinical literature better than him.

We are still awaiting;

1) 10 examples of gentile Christians in the bible which you promised.

2) The book, chapter and verse where God demanded tithes from the gentiles.

3) The book, chapter and verse where God demanded for money as tithes.

You haven't named two Jews that gave tithe in the new testament yet.

Jewish history is not as hidden as Nigerian history. Go and study.

Your ignorance is legendary

For a boy who doesn't know what tithe is

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