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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 9:07pm On Mar 12
okposm:
good afternoon everyone. Please I need civil servants to explain how they mark interview. I recently attended an interview on teams. After the interview, I felt I did well. However, after the mail I decided to look at the feedback. They said they expected me to have mentioned the name of tool I used for analysis, and what I was told to analyse which I did mention during the interview. However, what I found confusing was that I was scored 11 on strength and 4 on experience. However, my total score was left at 18.

Hmm, I'm not sure if they have a specific template for scoring candidates. Sometimes, they are not just interested in someone as a candidate.

I also did an interview recently, touched on everything in the job's essential criteria, and was told that I have all the experience needed for the job but was not successful at the interview.

They gave me data to analyze without a specific question to answer. I summarized the whole dataset with stats and charts, which was well commended. During feedback, he mentioned that I should have included this and that in the analysis. I told him that you and I both know that this is not what data analysis is all about. You can’t just give someone data without knowing what question we want to answer with the data and be expecting an exact answer. He was like, well, that’s true, but this is how the interview is, implying that I'm practically correct.

Just keep trying because the job market is a little bit saturated now.

Over 100 people jostling for one single position.
Have heard of this in many cases.

250jobs was advertised by HMRC, over 10000 people applied for the job.


I guess that your interview is DWP, right?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Poanan: 9:10pm On Mar 12
Hwy9:


oga, i need your help. I tried getting a travel insurance for a relative coming to the uk but the cover was shown in euros. I entered destination country as uk suprised to see what it covers in euros. please can you advise.

I was thinking getting one from 9ja should be cheaper. Please let me know how it goes.

Yes. But when I put in destination country as UK . The cover was in euros. The amount insurance cost was about 40k naira but medical cover was in euros. So i got confused let me not pay for something and then it will be that I can't use it. I was expecting to see what it covers in pounds. I was seeing things like emergency medical expenses cover 35k euros. This and that all in euros. That is why i feel uncomfortable with it. Check AXA Nigeria site u will see what i am saying.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by okposm: 9:35pm On Mar 12
Schoolhike:


Hmm, I'm not sure if they have a specific template for scoring candidates. Sometimes, they are not just interested in someone as a candidate.

I also did an interview recently, touched on everything in the job's essential criteria, and was told that I have all the experience needed for the job but was not successful at the interview.

They gave me data to analyze without a specific question to answer. I summarized the whole dataset with stats and charts, which was well commended. During feedback, he mentioned that I should have included this and that in the analysis. I told him that you and I both know that this is not what data analysis is all about. You can’t just give someone data without knowing what question we want to answer with the data and be expecting an exact answer. He was like, well, that’s true, but this is how the interview is, implying that I'm practically correct.

Just keep trying because the job market is a little bit saturated now.

Over 100 people jostling for one single position.
Have heard of this in many cases.

250jobs was advertised by HMRC, over 10000 people applied for the job.


I guess that your interview is DWP, right?

This is a bit discouraging cos how does 11+4 equals 18 according to my total score in the civil service job site when they are not INEC. This is not logical. it means after grading, score was tampered with and they forgot to chnage the total or only an individual was involved in grading. cos it amazed how it passed all quality checks. I interviewed with HMRC.

The other one I did with ofgem, the way the lady acted was like I was profiled. I used my passport as ID and she asked me to take it a bit away from the screen so she could see and screamed "that is a Nigerian passport" and asked me what type of visa I was holding and when it expires. That they do give sponsorship but that it is not guaranteed. I failed that one no feedback was given and was told if i wanted feedback i should send a mail.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by deleson: 9:59pm On Mar 12
hustla:



Congrats bro!

May God make you bigger and widen your coast beyond your heart's desire

Na these kain things I like dey see and hear for this forum and outside, No be care work this and that

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by dustydee: 10:53pm On Mar 12
Poanan:


Yes. But when I put in destination country as UK . The cover was in euros. The amount insurance cost was about 40k naira but medical cover was in euros. So i got confused let me not pay for something and then it will be that I can't use it. I was expecting to see what it covers in pounds. I was seeing things like emergency medical expenses cover 35k euros. This and that all in euros. That is why i feel uncomfortable with it. Check AXA Nigeria site u will see what i am saying.
That's fine. It's the value of the cover of the insurance. When I did mine many years ago, it was in euros
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 11:01pm On Mar 12
Travel for Grandma's burial? Not even mother or father?

My pal did his Father's burial in absentia 3 weeks ago.

Don't give village people a chance

Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Warriorprince(m): 11:07pm On Mar 12
ehizario2012:
Travel for Grandma's burial? Not even mother or father?

My pal did his Father's burial in absentia 3 weeks ago.

Don't give village people a chance

This story no clear jare......

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 11:15pm On Mar 12
Warriorprince:


This story no clear jare......

Oberclearness dey worry the story sef... Wetin nor first clear for there?
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Samguine: 1:11am On Mar 13
Poanan:

anyone is okay. i checked AXA

I have used AXA before. The quote was in Euros. Post Office and Virgin insurance companies quote in pounds

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Samguine: 1:18am On Mar 13
Poanan:


Yes. But when I put in destination country as UK . The cover was in euros. The amount insurance cost was about 40k naira but medical cover was in euros. So i got confused let me not pay for something and then it will be that I can't use it. I was expecting to see what it covers in pounds. I was seeing things like emergency medical expenses cover 35k euros. This and that all in euros. That is why i feel uncomfortable with it. Check AXA Nigeria site u will see what i am saying.

But AXA Mansard travel insurance for Nigeria is quoted in Naira. About 23k Naira
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Viruses: 1:30am On Mar 13
ehizario2012:


Oberclearness dey worry the story sef... Wetin nor first clear for there?

If they were in UK before travelling back, it means they have used their CoS, they are now BRP holders. Therefore the chatgpt that generated this post no know book. If within the 10 days the employer have terminated their employment, they have 90 days to get another sponsorship so the chatgpt no still know book because their BRP will be valid.

Your pal is not a standard, he did what best suits him. This family could have planned their holiday to align with the burial period (even though the story is false).

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by missjekyll: 1:38am On Mar 13
ehizario2012:
Travel for Grandma's burial? Not even mother or father?

My pal did his Father's burial in absentia 3 weeks ago.

Don't give village people a chance

Withdrawn on what grounds? Don't they give 1 month for you to find another sponsor. I call bull on this, no offence to you .

I ve always been able to come and go as I please.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by solveabode(m): 1:44am On Mar 13
Good day to you all.
Please any tips on how to secure a German visa appointment date?
I have been trying the Tls London to no avail and I have a programme in Berlin in 1st week of June.

Please what can I do to get a date?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Zahra29: 2:25am On Mar 13
Viruses:


If they were in UK before travelling back, it means they have used their CoS, they are now BRP holders. Therefore the chatgpt that generated this post no know book. If within the 10 days the employer have terminated their employment, they have 90 days to get another sponsorship so the chatgpt no still know book because their BRP will be valid.

Your pal is not a standard, he did what best suits him. This family could have planned their holiday to align with the burial period (even though the story is false).


The curtailment period is 60 days to find a new sponsor and this applies only if you are in the UK and have formally been served notice.

When a sponsor licence expires or is revoked it will automatically curtail any individual that is the main visa holder or dependent on the licence if that individual is abroad. The curtailment is deemed served and no notice is required for those overseas. While your checks with the BRP may show they remain valid it may show an entirely different set of circumstances at the internal information systems available at the border.

Most legal practitioners caution that if you are already outside the UK or travel outside the UK, regardless of a formal notice of curtailment, your visa will be automatically voided by default and you will be refused entry as the sponsor license is no longer valid. This is standard practice in the US I believe.

It's a grey area as the home office specifically mentions first time travellers and not those already working in the UK, and it is down to the discretion of the border official. They could offer Temporary Admission for instance but that will be based on their view of the circumstances.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:29am On Mar 13
hustla:
@jedisco

.....

I know there will be cries about shortages within 1 yr though.

Make we dey observe


There are many caveats but its difficult to say how things would pan out.

Though the new rules might be duly unjust to incoming care workers, but from a UK perspective, the government seems to have clinched it as it unduly benefits the UK economy.

There is now a limitless supply of tax-paying cheap care labour who have no access to public funds and no dependents. Folks coming in thru this pathway are pretty stuck with limited mobility as not many roles would pay the 38k to sponsor family. With time, it'd tend to be young single folks coming over which is what the economy wants as they have a lifetime to work. These folks wouldn't be able to bring their mates from home so expect more single ladies and men loitering. The downside is that folks keen on migrating would rather just pay for a care visa than face the uncertainty of masters route. Ultimately, locals would start complaining on how immigrants in the UK are not as high achieving as elsewhere while forgetting the bottlenecks they face. Another is that healthcare exposes one to the entitlement of the British populace. With time, dem too go sabi.

Many masters students OTOH are pretty much shafted as a good number came with family and jobs paying 38k are not very easy to come by. For many, it's either they go into care (meaning part of the family returns home) or they start looking elsewhere e.g Canada

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:39am On Mar 13
Ultimately, despite all the brouhaha and preaching, asides any major upheaval, it seems it's those who rather than go for masters used part of that money to source a care visa that would come out better off.

Yes a few might be burnt and stranded, some others might have their COS revoked but many more have simmered thru into more dependable sponsors and counting 1-2 yrs. Masters folks OTOH would be gearing up to face reality

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by jedisco(m): 3:48am On Mar 13
Goodenoch:


This has nothing to do with Nigerian immigrants, and you should react very strongly to anyone who attempts to make it look like it does.

What's the responsibility of the community of Nigerians in the UK with what this one man did? Is there not a huge amount of domestic violence in the UK by all sorts of people from all countries?

I'm all for taking responsibility to fix up as a community where necessary but this one man and his madness is his personal problem and no justification for anyone to give Nigerians a bad name.

Thanks for this.

It's thesame focus about how the media shapes our subconscious that I alluded to while back which ultimately erodes our self-esteem
Why are we not making posts of the overwhelming majority of Nigerians that are not beating their wives... Are those not a positive influence?

Of all the atrocities the British empire commited worldwide, I dont see everyday Brits walking around with a sense of guilt.



ehizario2012:


He is Nigerian, that's a fact that cannot be denied. His action has not added value to us, and we must condemn it....

Why do you feel the need to condemn the misdemeanor of every Nigerian in the UK?

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Viruses: 3:50am On Mar 13
Zahra29:



The curtailment period is 60 days to find a new sponsor and this applies only if you are in the UK and have formally been served notice.

When a sponsor licence expires or is revoked it will automatically curtail any individual that is the main visa holder or dependent on the licence if that individual is abroad. The curtailment is deemed served and no notice is required for those overseas. While your checks with the BRP may show they remain valid it may show an entirely different set of circumstances at the internal information systems available at the border.

Most legal practitioners caution that if you are already outside the UK or travel outside the UK, regardless of a formal notice of curtailment, your visa will be automatically voided by default and you will be refused entry as the sponsor license is no longer valid. This is standard practice in the US I believe.

It's a grey area as the home office specifically mentions first time travellers and not those already working in the UK, and it is down to the discretion of the border official. They could offer Temporary Admission for instance but that will be based on their view of the circumstances.







Point noted but the original story is still fake because they would not be travelling with CoS and a used CoS cannot be revoked.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 6:34am On Mar 13
Zahra29:



The curtailment period is 60 days to find a new sponsor and this applies only if you are in the UK and have formally been served notice.

When a sponsor licence expires or is revoked it will automatically curtail any individual that is the main visa holder or dependent on the licence if that individual is abroad. The curtailment is deemed served and no notice is required for those overseas. While your checks with the BRP may show they remain valid it may show an entirely different set of circumstances at the internal information systems available at the border.

Most legal practitioners caution that if you are already outside the UK or travel outside the UK, regardless of a formal notice of curtailment, your visa will be automatically voided by default and you will be refused entry as the sponsor license is no longer valid. This is standard practice in the US I believe.

It's a grey area as the home office specifically mentions first time travellers and not those already working in the UK, and it is down to the discretion of the border official. They could offer Temporary Admission for instance but that will be based on their view of the circumstances.








Even though your response lacks any emotions as usual, you've stated the fact. Once the border officials can't verify the sponsor on the UK licensed sponsors website, then it's entry denial most likely. Best advice is to check sponsor status before travelling and reduce gallivanting as much as possible if you're on a CoS. Things change very quickly.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 6:38am On Mar 13
Viruses:

Point noted but the original story is still fake because they would not be travelling with CoS and a used CoS cannot be revoked.

Fake story? When the sponsors license was revoked and clearly stated on the UK licensed sponsors website?? Just don't gamble.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 6:40am On Mar 13
okposm:


This is a bit discouraging cos how does 11+4 equals 18 according to my total score in the civil service job site when they are not INEC. This is not logical. it means after grading, score was tampered with and they forgot to chnage the total or only an individual was involved in grading. cos it amazed how it passed all quality checks. I interviewed with HMRC.

The other one I did with ofgem, the way the lady acted was like I was profiled. I used my passport as ID and she asked me to take it a bit away from the screen so she could see and screamed "that is a Nigerian passport" and asked me what type of visa I was holding and when it expires. That they do give sponsorship but that it is not guaranteed. I failed that one no feedback was given and was told if i wanted feedback i should send a mail.

Ah, I didn't understand what you meant initially; that's unfortunate. Perhaps they forgot to include the score because they might have also overlooked the other criteria. For DWP, I think it's 3 or 4 criteria (I can't remember if it's 3 or 4).

Hmm, most of the time, in situations like this, I don't assume what's on people's minds, even if it seems obvious from their facial expressions. I wouldn't assume until it's explicitly stated. I just think maybe that's just how the person is because, in most cases, assuming would weigh me down, and I wouldn't be able to proceed or move on, I just clear my mind since it’s not stated

On the other hand, my personal stance has been that if I dedicate my time to writing SOPs and attending interviews, you must definitely give feedback. I will pursue them until they provide me with feedback. You can't just waste my time like that.

I heard from a colleague at Ofgem, told me that his permanent contract had an end date that coincided with his visa expiration date, suggesting that their sponsorship might be role-specific. Also maybe people frequently ask for sponsorship.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ehizario2012: 6:40am On Mar 13
jedisco:


Thanks for this.

It's thesame focus about how the media shapes our subconscious that I alluded to while back which ultimately erodes our self-esteem
Why are we not making posts of the overwhelming majority of Nigerians that are not beating their wives... Are those not a positive influence?

Of all the atrocities the British empire commited worldwide, I dont see everyday Brits walking around with a sense of guilt.





Why do you feel the need to condemn the misdemeanor of every Nigerian in the UK?

As long as the adjective "Nigerian" keeps qualifying the individuals... Other nationals including Indians etc have their own vices too, but my focus is not on them.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 7:10am On Mar 13
jedisco:

Many masters students OTOH are pretty much shafted as a good number came with family and jobs paying 38k are not very easy to come by. For many, it's either they go into care (meaning part of the family returns home) or they start looking elsewhere e.g Canada


Spot on, The crafted policy looks like a win-win, the economy gets its fill without tipping the public fund scales. Folks are being boxed into a corner, packed up their lives and families with dreams of better prospects, only to find the goalposts have moved.

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by giselle237: 7:24am On Mar 13
Poanan:
Yes. But when I put in destination country as UK . The cover was in euros. The amount insurance cost was about 40k naira but medical cover was in euros. So i got confused let me not pay for something and then it will be that I can't use it. I was expecting to see what it covers in pounds. I was seeing things like emergency medical expenses cover 35k euros. This and that all in euros. That is why i feel uncomfortable with it. Check AXA Nigeria site u will see what i am saying.
Any particular reason you buying travel insurance for UK though? It is not needed for standard visitor visa.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 7:29am On Mar 13
Viruses:

Point noted but the original story is still fake because they would not be travelling with CoS and a used CoS cannot be revoked.

I guess it’s not fake.

I know of someone that the wife wasn’t allowed to apply for visa because the company’s license the husband works for got canceled/revoked.

Still possible in this scenario I guess, as Zahra’s mentioned,

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Schoolhike: 7:34am On Mar 13
This reminds me, there was an argument about a Nigerian nurse who has spent 15 years in the UK still being addressed as Nigerian-born. I guess if the situation were flipped, say, a national of another country does something bad, would it be okay to address a white-skinned person as Nigerian even after spending many years or after granting the person a citizenship? Lol, this just crossed my mind.
Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 8:07am On Mar 13
jedisco:



Many masters students OTOH are pretty much shafted as a good number came with family and jobs paying 38k are not very easy to come by. For many, it's either they go into care (meaning part of the family returns home) or they start looking elsewhere e.g Canada

Will be interesting to see in the next few months. I have searched and searched and this is the only country boxing immigrants into living a life on minimum wage. The effects in the next 7 - 10 years will be insane as most migrants will be stuck at the lower end of society and representation at the upper ends will be further limited (that is where I want to see fellow Nigerians)

The good thing though is that the £38K thing does not affect those who have just graduated but I see a sizable number of Nigerian students leaving the UK (a lot have left already or are planning to leave) as most of the policies are downright sinister and meant to restrict your upwards mobility.

That is exactly why I am always against the care thing or staying too long in it, as I see it as a carefully crafted way to push you into being lower class all your life, which will likely affect your kids too unless careful planning is put in place. Long hours away from family, low pay, and interactions with mostly low-class white people who are all out to drag you to their level, eventually it gets to you and your kids by extension.

I expect things to free up a bit within 1 yr and changes to be made, maybe a bit more stability smiley

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 8:08am On Mar 13
Schoolhike:
This reminds me, there was an argument about a Nigerian nurse who has spent 15 years in the UK still being addressed as Nigerian-born. I guess if the situation were flipped, say, a national of another country does something bad, would it be okay to address a white-skinned person as Nigerian even after spending many years or after granting the person a citizenship? Lol, this just crossed my mind.


Nobel laureate - British

Driller caught and sentenced to 23 years - Nigerian born British

The game is the game wink

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by ukay2: 8:22am On Mar 13
hustla:


Will be interesting to see in the next few months. I have searched and searched and this is the only country boxing immigrants into living a life on minimum wage. The effects in the next 7 - 10 years will be insane as most migrants will be stuck at the lower end of society and representation at the upper ends will be further limited (that is where I want to see fellow Nigerians)

The good thing though is that the £38K thing does not affect those who have just graduated but I see a sizable number of Nigerian students leaving the UK (a lot have left already or are planning to leave) as most of the policies are downright sinister and meant to restrict your upwards mobility.

That is exactly why I am always against the care thing or staying too long in it, as I see it as a carefully crafted way to push you into being lower class all your life, which will likely affect your kids too unless careful planning is put in place. Long hours away from family, low pay, and interactions with mostly low-class white people who are all out to drag you to their level, eventually it gets to you and your kids by extension.

I expect things to free up a bit within 1 yr and changes to be made, maybe a bit more stability smiley

I like your thinking and mindset.... Well done

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 8:28am On Mar 13
ukay2:


I like your thinking and mindset.... Well done


Been doing it (support) for 2 years now, I see the big picture

wink

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by Lexusgs430: 9:08am On Mar 13
hustla:


Will be interesting to see in the next few months. I have searched and searched and this is the only country boxing immigrants into living a life on minimum wage. The effects in the next 7 - 10 years will be insane as most migrants will be stuck at the lower end of society and representation at the upper ends will be further limited (that is where I want to see fellow Nigerians)

The good thing though is that the £38K thing does not affect those who have just graduated but I see a sizable number of Nigerian students leaving the UK (a lot have left already or are planning to leave) as most of the policies are downright sinister and meant to restrict your upwards mobility.

That is exactly why I am always against the care thing or staying too long in it, as I see it as a carefully crafted way to push you into being lower class all your life, which will likely affect your kids too unless careful planning is put in place. Long hours away from family, low pay, and interactions with mostly low-class white people who are all out to drag you to their level, eventually it gets to you and your kids by extension.

I expect things to free up a bit within 1 yr and changes to be made, maybe a bit more stability smiley


Why are you always thinking about the money......... What happened to the love and caring for the vulnerable, in our society........😜😂

Remember, money is not everything.........😁

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Re: Living In The Uk-life Of An Immigrant (part 3) by hustla(m): 9:13am On Mar 13
Lexusgs430:



Why are you always thinking about the money......... What happened to the love and caring for the vulnerable, in our society........😜😂

Remember, money is not everything.........😁


By all means, care for the vulnerable, but it should be done out of love (Rita Dominic spoke about doing this recently) and not as a last resort or because the government makes policies to deliberately edge every Tom, Dick, and Harry towards caring for them.

I did not just mention money; I mentioned other factors that will affect the family and upward mobility in the future.

I am certain that 99% of Nigerians, if given the global talent visa or ILR from day 1, would not opt for care (I AM NOT SAYING CARE IS NOT GOOD OOOOO FOR THE CARE BRIGADE AND ARMY BEFORE UNA ATTACK ME)

smiley

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