The same two state solution they rejected 76 years ago is now what they are begging for,you claim jews are you abrahamic siblings but you denied them their right to statehood in their ancestral land now they have almost all the land,you were offered Judea and Samaria (west bank) a territory historically and bibilically known to be an Israelite territory yet you were not satisfied and wanted it all from Jerusalem to tel aviv now you have none its too late.

Distorted history story

Why should Palestines settle for crumbs in their own land?

Moon worshippers chose vowlence over peace

helinues:
Distorted history story

Why should Palestines settle for crumbs in their own land?

Their own land You are the person propagating distorted history.

helinues:
Distorted history story

Why should Palestines settle for crumbs in their own land?

The land they took from the Jews or which land is theirs?

chiagozien:
You support Palestine freedom but against Biafra freedom.




Typical Yoruba Muslim.

You want Biafra freedom but against Palestine freedom.

Bookhub:
The same two state solution they rejected 76 years ago is now what they are begging for,you claim jews are you abrahamic siblings but you denied them their right to statehood in their ancestral land now they have almost all the land,you were offered Judea and Samaria (west bank) a territory historically and bibilically known to be an Israelite territory yet you were not satisfied and wanted it all from Jerusalem to tel aviv now you have none its too late.

Not true and I'll tell you why.

Palestinian people have been wrongly but deliberately accused of rejecting the two-state-solutiin (2SS). This is a lie. A pure, blatant lie repeatedly told to mislead the public. The devil in every deal is in the details...

The only Israeli PM who showed commitment to the 2SS was Yitzhak Rabin based on the 1993 Oslo Accord, and it was on that commitment that he got assassinated publicly by Yigal Amir, a jewish extremist in 1995.

The camp David Summit in the year 2000 came fairly close to creating a 2SS during Ehud Barak. It came crashing down when Barak warned the Americans that he could not accept giving the Palestinians more than a purely symbolic sovereignty over any part of East Jerusalem. In total, Israel demanded that Palestine's territory in East Jerusalem be reduced to eight sections including six small enclaves. Palestinians objected to the lack of sovereignty and to the right of Israel to keep Jewish neighbourhoods that it built over the Green Line in East Jerusalem.

The Israel also wanted to set up radar stations inside the Palestinian state, and be allowed to use its airspace. Israel also wanted the right to deploy troops on Palestinian territory in the event of an emergency, and the stationing of an international force in the Jordan Valley. Palestinian authorities would maintain control of border crossings under temporary Israeli observation. Israel would maintain a permanent security presence along the Palestinian-Jordanian border.

Israel also demanded that the Palestinian state be demilitarized with the exception of its paramilitary security forces, that it would not make alliances without Israeli approval or allow the introduction of foreign forces west of the Jordan River.

One of Israel's strongest demands was that Arafat declare the conflict over, and make no further demands. Israel also wanted water resources in the West Bank to be shared by both sides and remain under Israeli management. Israeli control of water resources in the new (almost) Palestinian state, along with de facto Israeli control over borders and the total demilitarisation of the Palestinian state basically guarantees that Palestine would be an Israeli state.

Robert Malley, part of the Clinton administration and present at the summit, wrote that Arafat was told that Israel would not only retain sovereignty over some Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem, but Haram Al Sharif too, and Arafat was also asked to accept a 9-to-1 ratio in land swaps.

Shlomo Ben-Ami, the then Israel's Minister of Foreign Relations who participated in the talks stated on Democracy now in 2006 that "Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well.

The Palestinians compromised quite a bit. They started by asking for a state based on pre 1967 borders. The Israelis rejected that, so they asked for borders based on 1967. The Israelis also rejected that, so they asked for complete control over the West Bank and Gaza. The Israelis rejected that. And the same Palestinians are unjustly accused by people of rejecting the 2SS. (As recent as last week, Netanyahu publicly and boldly reiterated the Israel stance that the Palestinians shouldn't have a state, after Biden called for a 2SS).

These and more are all documented by even the Israeli media such as the Haretz and by many Israeli authors such as Uri Avnery, Dan Cohen, and Ilan Pappe, among others.

helinues:
Distorted history story

Why should Palestines settle for crumbs in their own land?

How is it their own land? They are settlers that settled thousands of years after the Israelis were ejected from the same region.

Is niger delta that has never lifted arms against Nigeria any better than Palestine

FiftyFifty:


Not true and I'll tell you why.

Palestinian people have been wrongly but deliberately accused of rejecting the two-state-solutiin (2SS). This is a lie. A pure, blatant lie repeatedly told to mislead the public. The devil in every deal is in the details...



Israel also demanded that the Palestinian state be demilitarized with the exception of its paramilitary security forces, that it would not make alliances without Israeli approval or allow the introduction of foreign forces west of the Jordan River.

One of Israel's strongest demands was that Arafat declare the conflict over, and make no further demands. Israel also wanted water resources in the West Bank to be shared by both sides and remain under Israeli management. Israeli control of water resources in the new (almost) Palestinian state, along with de facto Israeli control over borders and the total demilitarisation of the Palestinian state basically guarantees that Palestine would be an Israeli state.

Robert Malley, part of the Clinton administration and present at the summit, wrote that Arafat was told that Israel would not only retain sovereignty over some Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem, but Haram Al Sharif too, and Arafat was also asked to accept a 9-to-1 ratio in land swaps.

Shlomo Ben-Ami, the then Israel's Minister of Foreign Relations who participated in the talks stated on Democracy now in 2006 that "Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well.

The Palestinians compromised quite a bit. They started by asking for a state based on pre 1967 borders. The Israelis rejected that, so they asked for borders based on 1967. The Israelis also rejected that, so they asked for complete control over the West Bank and Gaza. The Israelis rejected that. And the same Palestinians are unjustly accused by people of rejecting the 2SS. (As recent as last week, Netanyahu publicly and boldly reiterated the Israel stance that the Palestinians shouldn't have a state, after Biden called for a 2SS).

These and more are all documented by even the Israeli media such as the Haretz and by many Israeli authors such as Uri Avnery, Dan Cohen, and Ilan Pappe, among others.

So the history of the two-state solution started with Yitzak Rabin according to you? I like the way you guys lie to propagate your religion. Who would have a nation and suicide bombers and not take the sort of precaution Israel is taking? Palestinian desire for an independed state is simply a ploy by Muslims to have a lauchpad to attack and annihilate israel just like they did last October. 4 wars and dozens of uprisings and you expect israel not to take precautions?

FiftyFifty:


Not true and I'll tell you why.

Palestinian people have been wrongly but deliberately accused of rejecting the two-state-solutiin (2SS). This is a lie. A pure, blatant lie repeatedly told to mislead the public. The devil in every deal is in the details...

The only Israeli PM who showed commitment to the 2SS was Yitzhak Rabin based on the 1993 Oslo Accord, and it was on that commitment that he got assassinated publicly by Yigal Amir, a jewish extremist in 1995.

The camp David Summit in the year 2000 came fairly close to creating a 2SS during Ehud Barak. It came crashing down when Barak warned the Americans that he could not accept giving the Palestinians more than a purely symbolic sovereignty over any part of East Jerusalem. In total, Israel demanded that Palestine's territory in East Jerusalem be reduced to eight sections including six small enclaves. Palestinians objected to the lack of sovereignty and to the right of Israel to keep Jewish neighbourhoods that it built over the Green Line in East Jerusalem.

The Israel also wanted to set up radar stations inside the Palestinian state, and be allowed to use its airspace. Israel also wanted the right to deploy troops on Palestinian territory in the event of an emergency, and the stationing of an international force in the Jordan Valley. Palestinian authorities would maintain control of border crossings under temporary Israeli observation. Israel would maintain a permanent security presence along the Palestinian-Jordanian border.

Israel also demanded that the Palestinian state be demilitarized with the exception of its paramilitary security forces, that it would not make alliances without Israeli approval or allow the introduction of foreign forces west of the Jordan River.

One of Israel's strongest demands was that Arafat declare the conflict over, and make no further demands. Israel also wanted water resources in the West Bank to be shared by both sides and remain under Israeli management. Israeli control of water resources in the new (almost) Palestinian state, along with de facto Israeli control over borders and the total demilitarisation of the Palestinian state basically guarantees that Palestine would be an Israeli state.

Robert Malley, part of the Clinton administration and present at the summit, wrote that Arafat was told that Israel would not only retain sovereignty over some Arab neighbourhoods of Jerusalem, but Haram Al Sharif too, and Arafat was also asked to accept a 9-to-1 ratio in land swaps.

Shlomo Ben-Ami, the then Israel's Minister of Foreign Relations who participated in the talks stated on Democracy now in 2006 that "Camp David was not the missed opportunity for the Palestinians, and if I were a Palestinian I would have rejected Camp David, as well.

The Palestinians compromised quite a bit. They started by asking for a state based on pre 1967 borders. The Israelis rejected that, so they asked for borders based on 1967. The Israelis also rejected that, so they asked for complete control over the West Bank and Gaza. The Israelis rejected that. And the same Palestinians are unjustly accused by people of rejecting the 2SS. (As recent as last week, Netanyahu publicly and boldly reiterated the Israel stance that the Palestinians shouldn't have a state, after Biden called for a 2SS).

These and more are all documented by even the Israeli media such as the Haretz and by many Israeli authors such as Uri Avnery, Dan Cohen, and Ilan Pappe, among others.

Brilliant Man.

makemoneywbsite:


How is it their own land? They are settlers that settled thousands of years after the Israelis were ejected from the same region.

West Bank, Gaza should be made two state solution? For what?

Reasonable number of those who have either been defending Israel or Palestine are religious people. You people should make your research outside what you used to believe about the Israel Palestine long time story.

Do you know how many generations of Palestine who have lived in IDP just because the Israel drove them out from their own land?

makemoneywbsite:


So the history of the two-state solution started with Yitzak Rabin according to you? I like the way you guys lie to propagate your religion. Who would have a nation and suicide bombers and not take the sort of precaution Israel is taking? Palestinian desire for an independed state is simply a ploy by Muslims to have a lauchpad to attack and annihilate israel just like they did last October. 4 wars and dozens of uprisings and you expect israel not to take precautions?

Please find who can lend you small common sense.

makemoneywbsite:


How is it their own land? They are settlers that settled thousands of years after the Israelis were ejected from the same region.

Like initially said, Please find who can lend you small common sense.

Barywhyte:



Their own land You are the person propagating distorted history.

otipoju:


The land they took from the Jews or which land is theirs?

The thread below should help

https://www.nairaland.com/8040147/real-estate-god-distributing-lands

makemoneywbsite:


So the history of the two-state solution started with Yitzak Rabin according to you? I like the way you guys lie to propagate your religion. Who would have a nation and suicide bombers and not take the sort of precaution Israel is taking? Palestinian desire for an independed state is simply a ploy by Muslims to have a lauchpad to attack and annihilate israel just like they did last October. 4 wars and dozens of uprisings and you expect israel not to take precautions?

Why are you sounding so aggressive?

The history of Palestine didn't start with Rabin, it started long before Abraham whom the Jews claimed to have descended from migrated from Ur and later Haran all in Mesopotamia (today's Iraq) and settled there. King David would later conquer Jerusalem. Conquer from who? You may ask- the Palestinians. Check your Bible. Today's Jews are migrants from Europe who settled there due to the persecution from the western Christian countries such as France, Germany, Russia, and others. We all know where the Jews migrated from but no one has told us where the Palestinians migrated from. Ask an Israeli the tomb of his immediate grandparents and he'll take you to Poland, Germany, or Russia. Ask a Palestinian the tomb of his 30th grandparents and he'll take you there in Palestine. And you're still saying that is not their land.

FiftyFifty:


Why are you sounding so aggressive?

The history of Palestine didn't start with Rabin, it started long before Abraham whom the Jews claimed to have descended from migrated from Ur and later Haran all in Mesopotamia (today's Iraq) and settled there. King David would later conquer Jerusalem. Conquer from who? You may ask- the Palestinians. Check your Bible. Today's Jews are migrants from Europe who settled there due to the persecution from the western Christian countries such as France, Germany, Russia, and others. We all know where the Jews migrated from but no one has told us where the Palestinians migrated from. Ask an Israeli the tomb of his immediate grandparents and he'll take you to Poland, Germany, or Russia. Ask a Palestinian the tomb of his 30th grandparents and he'll take you there in Palestine. And you're still saying that is not there land.

There's nothing you can do about the status of Palestinians. It's the consequesnce of having a religion that teaches you to kill all Christaians and Jews wherever you find them. Jews are no longer too weak for Muslims to kill at will.

blacknp:
Please find who can lend you small common sense.

makemoneywbsite:


So the history of the two-state solution started with Yitzak Rabin according to you? I like the way you guys lie to propagate your religion. Who would have a nation and suicide bombers and not take the sort of precaution Israel is taking? Palestinian desire for an independed state is simply a ploy by Muslims to have a lauchpad to attack and annihilate israel just like they did last October. 4 wars and dozens of uprisings and you expect israel not to take precautions?

I have small sense to lend. The guys was saying that Yitzak Rabin Wanted to accept the proposed 2SS but he was killed for supporting the agenda.

makemoneywbsite:


There's nothing you can do about the status of Palestinians. It's the consequesnce of having a religion that teaches you to kill all Christaians and Jews wherever you find them. Jews are no longer too weak for Muslims to kill at will.

Ironically it's the Christians that persecuted if not exterminated the Jews, not the Muslims. Heraclius killed and destroyed their temple for killing his God. What Hitler did to them need no revisiting here. The pogrom was also well documented. The Qur'an just like the Bible provides for peace and war time, and if the two are to be considered together, the Bible is more violent than the Qur'an. It's the Christians that waged the crusade, it's th Christians that colonised the world and exterminated many tribes in the process, it's the Critaians that institutionalized slavery, it's also Christianity that gave the world the likes of Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, and Bush, among others. I can go on.

FiftyFifty:


Why are you sounding so aggressive?

The history of Palestine didn't start with Rabin, it started long before Abraham whom the Jews claimed to have descended from migrated from Ur and later Haran all in Mesopotamia (today's Iraq) and settled there. King David would later conquer Jerusalem. Conquer from who? You may ask- the Palestinians. Check your Bible. Today's Jews are migrants from Europe who settled there due to the persecution from the western Christian countries such as France, Germany, Russia, and others. We all know where the Jews migrated from but no one has told us where the Palestinians migrated from. Ask an Israeli the tomb of his immediate grandparents and he'll take you to Poland, Germany, or Russia. Ask a Palestinian the tomb of his 30th grandparents and he'll take you there in Palestine. And you're still saying that is not there land.

That is the history you chose to acquaint your self with. Talking about the 20th century history. And it's the one you are familiar with.

HisXLNC1:

That is the history you chose to acquaint your self with. Talking about the 20th century history. And it's the one you are familiar with.

So, Abraham and King David are 20th century history? Stop making a carricature of your empty self publicly and brazenly. If you must contribute to a discussion in a public forum your IQ should be at least average.

O boy, e be like say this matter na long thing and e get plenty layers wey we fit yarn about. First, history dey show us say na true, the two-state solution don dey on the table for long, but no be just about accepting or rejecting proposals. E dey important to remember say negotiations and peace talks dey complex and e involve plenty give and take from both sides.

Na so, the talk about land and right to statehood dey very sensitive and e touch deep historical, cultural, and religious lines wey no easy to just brush aside. Both sides get valid claims and grievances wey dey root deep into history wey no one fit just wave away overnight.

Plus, to say one side choose violence no dey paint the full picture of the struggle and the years of tension wey don dey build up. Na the whole community, international peacemakers, and leaders from both sides need to really come together with open mind and heart for there to be lasting peace. Na dialogue and understanding, not blame, go pave way for better future for both peoples.

FiftyFifty:


So, Abraham and King David are 20th century history? Stop making a carricature of your empty self publicly and brazenly. If you must contribute to a discussion in a public forum your IQ should be at least average.

I can deduce from your ranting that you derive gratification from insulting people who you consider way more intelligent than your self, but I won't stoop so low as to have a verbal exchange with a person of subnormal intelligence.

HisXLNC1:

I can deduce from your ranting that you derive gratification from insulting people who you consider way more intelligent than your self, but I won't stoop so low as to have a verbal exchange with a person of subnormal intelligence.

An empty vessel... Try harder!

FiftyFifty:


Ironically it's the Christians that persecuted if not exterminated the Jews, not the Muslims. Heraclius killed and destroyed their temple for killing his God. What Hitler did to them need no revisiting here. The pogrom was also well documented. The Qur'an just like the Bible provides for peace and war time, and if the two are to be considered together, the Bible is more violent than the Qur'an. It's the Christians that waged the crusade, it's th Christians that colonised the world and exterminated many tribes in the process, it's the Critaians that institutionalized slavery, it's also Christianity that gave the world the likes of Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, and Bush, among others. I can go on.

Also read up on the Arab slave trade for broader knowledge. BTW some gulf states are still codedly into this. The information is available online.

delpee:


Also read up on the Arab slave trade for broader knowledge. BTW some gulf states are still codedly into this. The information is available online.

Of all the issues I raised that is the only thing you are in contention with? Interesting. Well, compare the institutionalization of slavery in the Christian west and that of the Muslim east and tell us your discovery.

FiftyFifty:


Of all the issues I raised that is the only thing you are in contention with? Interesting. Well, compare the institutionalization of slavery in the Christian west and that of the Muslim east and tell us your discovery.

E be like say the conversation don shift enter deep matter about history and the way different parts of the world handle things like slavery. When you talk about the Arab slave trade and how some gulf states still dey move codedly, e dey open eye for the kind things wey dey happen wey plenty people no dey see on top surface.

The part wey you mention about comparing slavery for Christian West and Muslim East, e show say history complex and the matter no just black and white. E good make we dey open to learn about these things, understand how history shape our present, and the kind role different societies and religions play for this kind thing.

Na true say focusing on just one aspect of the whole conversation fit miss the broader points wey you dey try make. E important make we look the full picture, understand say issues like slavery don get deep roots and e don affect different cultures and societies in different ways.

This kind dialogue na the type wey fit help us grow, learn from the past, and maybe find ways to do better moving forward. E go good make we keep the conversation going, share knowledge, and understand say our world history rich and sometimes complicated pass as we fit dey think.

So you can no longer defend your lies but resulted to emotional blackmail?

makemoneywbsite:


There's nothing you can do about the status of Palestinians. It's the consequesnce of having a religion that teaches you to kill all Christaians and Jews wherever you find them. Jews are no longer too weak for Muslims to kill at will.

FiftyFifty:


An empty vessel... Try harder!

funny thing is..you and the guy are arguing with the informations you got online or through books. You guys were definitely not there. So the other guy might be right and same as urself. The israeli/palestine argument is endless.

helinues:


You want Biafra freedom but against Palestine freedom.

Who say I am against Palestine freedom.

I am not a hypocrite like you.


Two state solution for Palestinians and Israel.


Two state solution for Biafra and Nigeria.



What do say about two state solution in Nigeria?