BananaBender:


Christianity did play a role in the emancipation of women.

But not as much as feminism.
With the washed-up christianity, it was like one step forward, two steps backward. And those letters of Paul were one show of horror, ought to be locked up in a pit of hell. I'm sure he was the one James and John advised the children of God not to listen to.

TV01:

It's nothing - have I had to resist to bloodshed? They are mere miscreants, slightly irritable. If my master was persecuted, how much more a mere disciple like me?

The exact right word "toting" - anyone can tote a gun, only a few can actually handle it correctly, let alone shoot straight - they are few and far between on the board.

They simply cannot touch Mrs TV01 - not in pedigree, heritage, character, demeanor, graciousness or beauty. My delightful wife epitomises all that deep down they aspire to be, but even deeper down realise they can never attain to.

How can an admixture of desperate and ageing singles, bitter and lonely divorcees, plain-faced lesbians (yes, I know !)low brow, low rent, low class and low bred, damaged & limping, treadless purveyors of slut-ho doctrines even stand

I spare them for the most part, because that's what she would exhort me to do. Did I mention righteous

As for my kids? I'll wait till I see theirs. Chances are their eggs will remain frozen instead of fertilised

I shall contine to speak the truth and stand for the best interest of strong families and a flourishing society. Afterall, it's the family section no?


TV

I don't aspire to be a trophy wife.

TV01:

No, it's not the truth. It's the mindless cant of feminists and rebellious women


"Role model" - More gifs please...

You don't have to be a Christian to have Christ as a role model - but that probably explains a lot.
Christ without the cross, makes about as much sense as a saviour without salvation - but like I said...your choice.


TV

Such stupidity! Where did I say such?
At your age, you should know that salvation and works are both requirements for a christian. Aint suprised thou.

Shirley07:

But not as much as feminism.
With the washed-up christianity, it was like one step forward, two steps backward. And those letters of Paul were one show of horror, ought to be locked up in a pit of hell. I'm sure he was the one James and John advised the children of God not to listen to.

Yep, I guess you could say that.

If you're talking about I Corinthians 11, I would say you have to read it in the cultural context of that time. Paul isn't as much of a sexist as you might think.

"..ought to be locked up in a pit of hell."
I feel that way too, some chapters could definitely be omitted from the bible.

Shirley07:

Did Christ say children and daddy are one?
It's a wonder how you claimed to be the head when your intelligence isn't up to a pinch of salt because if it was, you would understand the sentence 'Love comes with submission'. In other words, it means you can't love without submitting. However, you can submit without any ounce of love. The earlier you realize you're such a dunce, the better.
Also, if that brain of yours can't grasp what I meant by every christians is required to have Christ as their role model, then that brain is a waste of space already because I never said only christians have Christ as their role model like you were insinuating. However, all christians must be like Christ because christian itself means to have a christ-like nature. It's a waste of time conversing with you anyway.
And let me repeat it to you, I imbibe Christ's doctrine and yeah, Christ was a feminist. There are many things he did in the bible that showed he was one. For example, he didn't condemn the adulterous woman that was brought to him because he realized the hypocrisy of the men that brough her, afterall she didn't commit the adultery with herself yet the man who was with her wasn't brought forward by the hypocrital men. No wonder Christ asked them to cast stones if they are without sins.
Another is talking with a samaritan woman which was forbidden according to the jewish law which finds it degrading for a man to converse with a woman let alone, a samaritan.
There's also Mary madgalene, whom the disciples had issues with and labelled her as wasteful yet had no qualms associating and eating merringly with Zacchaeus, the publican. Anyway, we're all aware of how Christ shut his disciples down.
Not to also forget the two Lazarus' sisters, Martha and Mary. According to the scriptures, Mary was being reprimanded by Martha for learning under Jesus' feet instead of her to be in the kitchen but Jesus shut Martha up. And according to the jews in those days, anyone that learned from a rabbi is expected to be a teacher and Jesus obviously aware of this, had no qualms teaching Mary, the way he did with his disciples.
And the greatest is telling the hypocritical pharisee that husband and wife are one flesh, which means no one has the right to treat the other the way he/she likes but to treat each other as one body, just like he is one with God and the Holy Spirit. So, Christ was a feminist and by his grace, I'm one. I repeat Feminism brought about women emancipation and you can shove that into your ass.
That said, if you can't see where Paul addressed christian slave masters in ephe 6:9 to lessen their threatning on their slaves, then that eyes of yours is better off being shot because it's useless. Like I said earlier, I don't blame you because if you were a slave, you won't be here dribbling out saliva to drive a point. What am I even saying? you're better off being a slave because that primitive brain of yours reason like one.
Moreover, there are many things Paul said in the bible that were contradictory to Christ's teaching. For example, Christ said anyone that call his brother a fool is deem for hell but Paul didn't heed to that warning. Christ also said we shouldn't swear nor boast but Paul had no qualms doing such.
Whatever, carry go with your paul's doctrine but I'm for Christ, a feminist!

You are not for Christ,i don't see anything Christlike in you,and saying Christ is a Feminist is crap and a lie which I believe you know too.
Maybe you should dig up the word feminist,Jesus Christ was and is not a feminist!
The examples you gave are your own interpretation, the woman accuseed of adultery,d samaritan woman and Lazarus cousin,none of them showed that Christ was a Feminist,i won't be surprised if you say Christ was married...smh!

Mintayo:

You are not for Christ,i don't see anything Christlike in you,and saying Christ is a Feminist is crap and a lie which I believe you know too.
Maybe you should dig up the word feminist,Jesus Christ was and is not a feminist!
The examples you gave are your own interpretation, the woman accuseed of adultery,d samaritan woman and Lazarus cousin,none of them showed that Christ was a Feminist,i won't be surprised if you say Christ was married...smh!

Define feminism.

Mintayo:

You are not for Christ,i don't see anything Christlike in you,and saying Christ is a Feminist is crap and a lie which I believe you know too.
Maybe you should dig up the word feminist,Jesus Christ was and is not a feminist!
The examples you gave are your own interpretation, the woman accuseed of adultery,d samaritan woman and Lazarus cousin,none of them showed that Christ was a Feminist,i won't be surprised if you say Christ was married...smh!

Why don't you refute it with solid facts instead of blabbing like a psycho.

Shirley07:

Why don't you refute it with solid facts instead of blabbing like a psycho.

Shirley Bassey, how dare you call Jesus a feminist? He never picked a beau, apart from being passionate about the plights of sinful women. Stop the blasphemy!

Chimanmandumb Adichie done raise a lot of blasphemous chics with her idi.otic we're all feminists tripe!

BananaBender:


Define feminism.

The belief and aim that women should have the same rights and opportunities as men; the struggle to achieve this aim(Oxford Dictionary,6th edition).
Jesus did not come to struggle for feminism,none of the examples above showed that he did! Jesus came to show us the way to the Father, Jesus was not some 'jobless men or women' carrying placards for women to be on the same boat with men!

Shirley07:

Why don't you refute it with solid facts instead of blabbing like a psycho.

i don't time for someone who claimed to be christlike and yet do not show it,Jesus wouldn't call someone a psycho!
Stop being used by the devil,who i believe is the authur of lies,Jesus was never a feminist,stop the heresy!

SirShymex:


Shirley Bassey, how dare you call Jesus a feminist? He never picked a beau, apart from being passionate about the plights of sinful women. Stop the blasphemy!

Chimanmandumb Adichie done raise a lot of blasphemous chics with her idi.otic we're all feminists tripe!

i am telling you!

BananaBender:


Yep, I guess you could say that.

If you're talking about I Corinthians 11, I would say you have to read it in the cultural context of that time. Paul isn't as much of a sexist as you might think.

"..ought to be locked up in a pit of hell."
I feel that way too, some chapters could definitely be omitted from the bible.

I read that chapter just now and I cringe at the statement 'Be ye followers of me... Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them unto you.
He asked people to follow him, not Christ. No wonder James said in his letters that 'Be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation'- James 3:1.
How am I even sure Paul saw Christ? He was his own witness by the way, the disciples didn't even have any revelation about it.

Mintayo:

i don't time for someone who claimed to be christlike and yet do not show it,Jesus wouldn't call someone a psycho!
Stop being used by the devil,who i believe is the authur of lies,Jesus was never a feminist,stop the heresy!

Of course he won't because he's a loving and patient lord. However, I don't have the patience for people like you.
And until you back up your claim, it's you who speaks heresy.

SirShymex:


Shirley Bassey, how dare you call Jesus a feminist? He never picked a beau, apart from being passionate about the plights of sinful women. Stop the blasphemy!

Chimanmandumb Adichie done raise a lot of blasphemous chics with her idi.otic we're all feminists tripe!

He is. Whatever he expected of a man, he also expected such thing from a woman. He's not double standard/two faced lord and his word is the ultimate, not Paul.

Shirley07:

He is. Whatever he expected of a man, he also expected such thing from a woman. He's not double standard/two faced lord and his word is the ultimate, not Paul.

And what's the correlation between that and feminazism?

Oh, he was so much of a feminist, yet he never had a female disciple, no?

Shirley07:

Of course he won't because he's a loving and patient lord. However, I don't have the patience for people like you.
And until you back up your claim, it's you who speaks heresy.

smh...check out the meaning of feminism and align it with Christ's ministry and be cleared from ur confusion!
Smh again...

SirShymex:


And what's the correlation between that and feminazism?

Oh, he was so much of a feminist, yet he never had a female disciple, no?

What do you think would have happened with a woman or two in the midst of the disciples in a lonely wilderness, where Christ often lodge? You need to use your brain at times...
Nevertheless, Mary madgalene, his mother and other women were among his followers and were found with him while he was teaching.

Mintayo:

smh...check out the meaning of feminism and align it with Christ's ministry and be cleared from ur confusion!
Smh again...

Feminism is the advocacy of women equal rights with men and I didn't see Christ do otherwise.

Shirley07:

What do you think would have happen with a woman or two in the midst of the disciples in a lonely wilderness where Christ often lodge? You need to use your brain at times...
Nevertheless, Mary madgalene, his mother and other women were among his followers and were always found with him while he was teaching.

I'll ignore the bit that I crossed.

So, how about tell me what would've happened if a woman or two were "in the midst" of the disciples? I wasn't born then, so I'm not in a position to answer that. However, I do know priests and nuns in the Roman Catholic Church operate together without any problem whatsoever.

Also, why do you feminists always claim everything? When you're not involved in incessant biitching about the most trivial things and being unnecessarily belligerent, you're busy claiming everything that has absolutely nothing to do with your ideology that looks more like politics, than anything to be taken seriously?

If not for the civil rights movement, and how what they achieved opened a leeway, for women worldwide to move up a bit - I honestly don't think your non-achieving feminist theories will be relevant today.

SirShymex:


I'll ignore the bit that I crossed.

So, how about tell me what would've happened if a woman or two were "in the midst" of the disciples? I wasn't born then, so I'm not in a position to answer that. However, I do know priests and nuns in the Roman Catholic Church operate together without any problem whatsoever.

Also, why do you feminists always claim everything? When you're not involved in incessant biitching about the most trivial things and being unnecessarily belligerent, you're busy claiming everything that has absolutely nothing to do with your ideology that looks more like politics, than anything to be taken seriously?

If not for the civil right movements, and how what they achieved opened a leeway, for women worldwide to move up a bit - I honestly don't think your non-achieving feminist theories will be relevant today.

Because you haven't heard of fornication in the missionary where priests and nuns sleeps with one another?
And if you don't want to engage your brain, let me help you.
The disciples were babies at the beginning who needed to be nurtured, so putting a woman or two which could cause distraction at both ends isn't a wise thing to do.
Moreover, If there's anyone claiming everything out there, it's you and your fellow bigots.

Shirley07:

Because you haven't heard of fornication in the missionary where priests and nuns sleeps with one another?
And if you don't want to engage your brain, let me help you.
The disciples were babies at the beginning who needed to be nurtured, so putting a woman or two which could cause distraction at both ends isn't a wise thing to do.
Moreover, If there's anyone claiming everything out there, it's you and your fellow bigots.

Babies in what aspect? Babies in holiness/religion, or by age? Er, let me dig into my frozen knowledge of theology. I think Jesus got baptised at age 30, and he didn't start his ministry until after that. And he selected grown men as his disciples. So, I don't understand what was babyish about them. Be more explicit with your posts, Shirley Bassey. I'm not a mind-reader.

And have you got any proofs that Catholic Priest and Nuns sh.ag one another? I cited the Roman Catholic Church for a reason because I know whatever you're alluding is more or less a norm in pentecostal Churches - not the Catholic Church. A typical Catholic Priest would rather sleep with a young boy than a female...so make sure you understand what you're talking about.

Well, I'm not a bigot, I just put folks in check - my service to humanity. Still waiting for the day you lot will claim that Lucifer and the fallen angels were also feminists.

SirShymex:


Babies in what aspect? Babies in holiness/religion, or by age? Er, let me dig into frozen knowledge of theology. I think Jesus got baptised at age 30, and he didn't start his ministry until after that. And he selected grown men as his disciples. So, I don't understand what was babyish about them. Be more expletive with your posts, Shirley Bassey. I'm not a mind-reader.

And have you got any proofs that Catholic Priest and Nuns sh.ag one another? I cited the Roman Catholic Church for a reason because I know whatever you're alluding is more or less a norm in pentecostal Churches - not the Catholic Church. A typical Catholic Priest would rather sleep with a young boy than a female...so make sure you understand what you're talking about.

Well, I'm not a bigot, I just put folks in check - my service to humanity. Still waiting for the day you lot will claim that Lucifer and the fallen angels were also feminists.

I mean babies in righteousness and this showed in the case of Peter who lied to deny Christ, Judas becoming a thief and eventually betrayed Christ, John becoming greedy and fighting for position in the kingdom e.t.c. No wonder Christ said he will send the comforter to lead them in the right path because by strength, no man shall prevail.
And let me tell you, Immorality is quite rampant among these catholic fathers and sisters out there. I attended a catholic school and I was a witness to such thing. Infact, I have little respect for them.
On lucifer being a feminist, he's not one because he's a selfish bastard, just like the chauvnist and sexists.

Mintayo:

Jesus wouldn't call someone a psycho!

Jesus wouldn't be on nairaland.

swaggzo:



Jesus wouldn't be on nairaland.

Jesus is everywhere dude*omnipresent* stop siding a wrong perspective it aint cool... If u want to fight 4 female freedom fyn but dont join heresy and freedom fight 2geda.

Mat 5:32 Jesus spoke to d man but nowadays women initiates 75% of divorces and u can't tell me all of them is as a result of fornication.

Mintayo:

The belief and aim that women should have the same rights and opportunities as men; the struggle to achieve this aim(Oxford Dictionary,6th edition).
Jesus did not come to struggle for feminism,none of the examples above showed that he did! Jesus came to show us the way to the Father, Jesus was not some 'jobless men or women' carrying placards for women to be on the same boat with men!

You don't have to "struggle for feminism" to be considered a feminist.

According to your definition, a feminist is one who believes men and women should have the same rights and opportunities as men. Jesus Christ definitely did not discriminate between genders and he believes women and men to be equal.

The only gender distinctions present in the Bible have to do with the culture of that time. There is no mention of spiritual gifts or salvation being different for men and women.

@SirShymexx and shirley07: Jesus had female disciples, lol Luke 8, Act 1:13-14, Luke 24: 13 to 33

swaggzo:



Jesus wouldn't be on nairaland.

smh...

BananaBender:
You don't have to "struggle for feminism" to be considered a feminist.
According to your definition, a feminist is one who believes men and women should have the same rights and opportunities as men. Jesus Christ definitely did not discriminate between genders and he believes women and men to be equal.
The only gender distinctions present in the Bible have to do with the culture of that time. There is no mention of spiritual gifts or salvation being different for men and women.
@SirShymexx and shirley07: Jesus had female disciples, lol Luke 8, Act 1:13-14, Luke 24: 13 to 33

Feminism is a word that was coined here on earth, its a "struggle" that was created here on earth,it has nothing to do with God's kingdom. And the truth is,as long as we are here on earth men and women will never be placed on the equality scale!
There is nothing about Jesus message that talks about feminism,Jesus messages has nothing to do with feminism. Trying to rope him into feminism is way outta it.
Jesus didnt come to the earth to to tell people that "men and women" are equal(this is my stand). His message centres on God's love, mercy and forgiveness(in the case of the woman caught in adultery).

Mutaino7:
Jesus is everywhere dude*omnipresent* stop siding a wrong perspective it aint cool... If u want to fight 4 female freedom fyn but dont join heresy and freedom fight 2geda.

thank you. I just couldnt reply him, i can see how ignorant he is.
#this is my last post on this thread!

Mintayo:

Feminism is a word that was coined here on earth, its a "struggle" that was created here on earth,it has nothing to do with God's kingdom. And the truth is,as long as we are here on earth men and women will never be placed on the equality scale!
There is nothing about Jesus message that talks about feminism,Jesus messages has nothing to do with feminism. Trying to rope him into feminism is way outta it.
Jesus didnt come to the earth to to tell people that "men and women" are equal(this is my stand). His message centres on God's love, mercy and forgiveness(in the case of the woman caught in adultery).

You are very ignorant about the scriptures, you need to go back and do an educative reading on the bible you live by. Who cares if the word is 'feminism' or 'maninism', who cares??

That is why I asked you to define feminism. Stop looking at the letters that make up feminism and start looking at the message that feminism advocates.

Jesus is a passive feminist.

BananaBender:


You are very ignorant about the scriptures, you need to go back and do an educative reading on the bible you live by. Who cares if the word is 'feminism' or 'maninism', who cares??

That is why I asked you to define feminism. Stop looking at the letters that make up feminism and start looking at the message that feminism advocates.

Jesus is a passive feminist.

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