cheruv:

see I'd be polite by not asking whether anything is wrong upstairs neither would I give a flying fvck about how good you're in geography.
all those groups you mentioned are in delta and rivers states..unless you yourself carved them up into Imo !!
as per Abia,that name sounds Igbo to me...itu mbauzo which means itu in diaspora.
brush up on your geography bro..NL isn't a place to yarn shiyt!!

You have refused to seek knowledge and write out of ignorance. The language spoken in many parts of Ohaji area of Imo State is Ikwerre language. Egbema in Imo State also speaks same Egbema with the part carved into Rivers State. Oguta speaks Ukwuani/Aboh and parts of Ngor-Okpala speak Etche. Itu Mbon Uzo is not Igbo but an Ibibioid language.


http://books.google.nl/books?id=9c_HAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=itu+mbuzo+people&source=bl&ots=QWgUNhWcRX&sig=N8YZpQA_32Y0YB5V-wXc5Gj6bHo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jLFFVNb7I8muPMG4gOgM&redir_esc=y

Read that link

Location. The Ibibio are located to the south and southeast of the Igbo, in southeastern Nigeria. This includes the former Calabar Province (the Itu Mbuzo subgroup is in the Bende Division), Owerri Province, and certain villages of the Obong. The Eastern Ibibio, or Ika, have attached their village groups to the Ndokki Igbo of Owerri.

http://www.everyculture.com/Africa-Middle-East/Ibibio-Orientation.html

Now when you come down to Aba area there exists several "Mgboko" villages that speak Ngwa and are Ngwa today. Try to find out the role of Ibibio in Mgboko formation. In fact Mgboko is another name for Ibibioid people.

http://www.ethnologue.com/language/itm/view/***EDITION***

abagoro:



Only Imo State is a complete Igbo State by language. Abia has an Ibibio speaking group known as "Itu mbuzon". Even Imo State's complete Igbo status could be questioned if Ukwuani, Etche, Egbema and Ikwerre are considered as distinct languages.

Please, is it itumbuzor that i know to igbo or is it another(itu mbuzon)

Abagworo:


You have refused to seek knowledge and write out of ignorance. The language spoken in many parts of Ohaji area of Imo State is Ikwerre language. Egbema in Imo State also speaks same Egbema with the part carved into Rivers State. Oguta speaks Ukwuani/Aboh and parts of Ngor-Okpala speak Etche. Itu Mbon Uzo is not Igbo but an Ibibioid language.


http://books.google.nl/books?id=9c_HAAAAQBAJ&pg=PA64&lpg=PA64&dq=itu+mbuzo+people&source=bl&ots=QWgUNhWcRX&sig=N8YZpQA_32Y0YB5V-wXc5Gj6bHo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=jLFFVNb7I8muPMG4gOgM&redir_esc=y

Read that link



http://www.everyculture.com/Africa-Middle-East/Ibibio-Orientation.html

Now when you come down to Aba area there exists several "Mgboko" villages that speak Ngwa and are Ngwa today. Try to find out the role of Ibibio in Mgboko formation. In fact Mgboko is another name for Ibibioid people.

http://www.ethnologue.com/language/itm/view/***EDITION***

Well i'm from Ngwa and the place you are speaking of are three community, the are mgboko umuanunu - origin-Nvosi,mgboko amairi-origin- Ntigha,mboko itu ukpa-origin-Nsulu, so help explean the akwaibom/croos rever side of it.

letu:
Well i'm from Ngwa and the place you are speaking of are three community, the are mgboko umuanunu - origin-Nvosi,mgboko amairi-origin- Ntigha,mboko itu ukpa-origin-Nsulu, so help explean the akwaibom/croos rever side of it.

thanks...
the rate peeps spill shiyt on NL is alarming

letu:
Well i'm from Ngwa and the place you are speaking of are three community, the are mgboko umuanunu - origin-Nvosi,mgboko amairi-origin- Ntigha,mboko itu ukpa-origin-Nsulu, so help explean the akwaibom/croos rever side of it.

Dont you as an Ngwa man know that during "igo ofo" Ibibio is included alongside Ohuhu?

letu:
Please, is it itumbuzor that i know to igbo or is it another(itu mbuzon)

Yes the place they have a destitute home run by a European lady.

abagoro:



Only Imo State is a complete Igbo State by language. Abia has an Ibibio speaking group known as "Itu mbuzon". Even Imo State's complete Igbo status could be questioned if Ukwuani, Etche, Egbema and Ikwerre are considered as distinct languages.

Gbam!! Yet Anambra people always claim to be the origin of Igbos, however, as this thread clearly shows they (Ndi Anambra) are of mixed ancestry comprising Igala, Benin and Igbo. Imo State - as aptly described - is the Heartland of Igbos - 100%!

adusim:


Gbam!! Yet Anambra people always claim to be the origin of Igbos, however, as this thread clearly shows they (Ndi Anambra) are of mixed ancestry comprising Igala, Benin and Igbo. Imo State - as aptly described - is the Heartland of Igbos - 100%!

after intermarring with Abia,Ebonyi,Anambra you are still calling Imo 100 % igbo forgeting that uraata did not end in imo, there is also uraata in abia state, the marriage thing between imo state and others has been going on many many years ago, pre -colonia, during colonia and after, upto this year they are still intermarring so you see you Imolits are not 100% Igbo (by blood) .

letu:
after intermarring with Abia,Ebonyi,Anambra you are still calling Imo 100 % igbo forgeting that uraata did not end in imo, there is also uraata in abia state, the marriage thing between imo state and others has been going on many many years ago, pre -colonia, during colonia and after, upto this year they are still intermarring so you see you Imolits are not 100% Igbo (by blood) .

He committed a fallacy by authoritstively claiming blood purity for Imo State. In my side we have Ijaw, Igala and Benin ancestry too. The point I raised which he based his comments on is that Imo is the only State that is indigeneously 100% Igbo speaking. The reason is because the languages surrounding us are Igbo based like Ukwuani, Ikwerre and Etche on the Rivers and Delta side while the rest of our surrounding States are Igbo.

abagoro:


He committed a fallacy by authoritstively claiming blood purity for Imo State. In my side we have Ijaw, Igala and Benin ancestry too. The point I raised which he based his comments on is that Imo is the only State that is indigeneously 100% Igbo speaking. The reason is because the languages surrounding us are Igbo based like Ukwuani, Ikwerre and Etche on the Rivers and Delta side while the rest of our surrounding States are Igbo.

Not a fallacy, my Ugwuta brother. We are 100% Igbo. There are no other languages spoken in Imo, which is quite unlike Anambra - the so called home of the Igbos!

abagoro:


He committed a fallacy by authoritstively claiming blood purity for Imo State. In my side we have Ijaw, Igala and Benin ancestry too. The point I raised which he based his comments on is that Imo is the only State that is indigeneously 100% Igbo speaking. The reason is because the languages surrounding us are Igbo based like Ukwuani, Ikwerre and Etche on the Rivers and Delta side while the rest of our surrounding States are Igbo.

Lol,this 100% and 50% purity stuff is funny. I think it's time to let go of it and just be 'Igbo'. As for me, am from Abia and i'm 100% igbo. Lol

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Klinee:
The Igala in Anambra comprises of many towns;NZAM(headqauter and also the largest town in Anambra west, also the largest oil deposit in Anambra state), INNOMA, OWELLE,UKWALA, ODEKPE,IGBEDOR, IGBOKEYI,ODE, ALLAH and ONUGWA. We lies at the river Niger and omambala coast. Located in Anambra west L.G.A. We have 98% of oil deposit in anambra state. Predominantly farmers,fishing, we are the food basket of nation. Our language is gradually going into extintion. We speak Igala but most our young ones today speak Igbo more than our language. I dont know if they are feeling shy to speak the language, i remember meeting one of my town person at onitsha, i greeted him in Igala he answered me in Igbo ,it goes like this" ME: John kayi dee? JOHN: nnaa! Udo di,ME: kabe enale? JOHN: nnaa! Ka munwa fu madu ebaa." I think the government of Anambra state is not doing well to Igala language just as they do to Igbo language. I know that we are minority language in Anambra with about 5% of the population. It dosnt mean that we shouldnt be value. The government only recognise and promote Igbo language, where igbo language is being taught in every basic and post primary schools in the state. I remember in my primary school days in village where the teachers(IBOS) normally constrain us not to speak Igala in forecorner of school,is either we speak Igbo or English. In the government media companies; Abs 1 & 2 radio, Abs awka tv, Abs onitsha tv, purity radio, Nta awka tv, Nta onitsha tv and many other private radio and tv stations in Anambra. Out of all these media companies only one station allow Igala language that is Abs 2. And the programme takes 10mins only in a day with just two occurance in a week. We have two languages in Anambra; Igbo and Igala. The government need to help and promote our language. I think inferiority complex is affecting our young ones due to the fact that the language is not being promoted to people of Anambra. If we are conversing in our language maybe in any of the major cities in anambra, the igbos around normally refer us as foreigner in the state because many never know that we are full blooded Anambrian. Imagine commissioner of information,tourism & culture(now former) Hon. Maja Umeh saying in a live interveiw that he did not know that igala is in anambra. We have also had discrimination mostly people from anambra central&south,enugu,abia,imo claiming that we are not anambrian. I want to use this medium to appeal to government of anambra state. If it will be possible to appoint two or three igala indigene as commissioner or any appointive position. Secondly to charge the medias to employ igalas to enable them create a programme where the language will be desseminate to people.

I support the recognision of Igala lang. in Anambra state...
Many Anambrans doesn't know about this....

Macelliot:

I support the recognision of Igala lang. in Anambra state...
Many Anambrans doesn't know about this....

Many Anambras dont

soonest:
Many Anambras dont

Not that they don't, but Many doesn't know...

:olike seriosly :olike seriosly i never knew igalas are in anambra state hmmm dis is serios

Nobody:

Hitler have spoken.
All hail the Fuhrer!
Let us segregate them. They are not Anambra enough. Not even Igbo what a shame.
Maybe you can build a n apartheid wall around them like the one in West Bank to keep them out of the mainstream Anambra (o ye from the tribe of Judah)
Maybe we adopt the FINAL SOLUTION and exterminate them so that "no trace of your cultural existance would be found."

Hahahaha...!! Very funny. I don't know why major tribes are always so dismissive of the minorities. Totally unfair.

@Cheruv, wey you dey?? Bia, come and read this thread.

@LastProphet : what do you think? Have you gone through this thread?

Revolva:
true brother ..na so one yeye ankpa man dey tell me say i be edo...wtf...we igalas are very funny sometimes..because we are facing south of the state....dont mind dem they r just saying this to scare the elite of ibaji not to be in head of politics....Igals is Igala..dont let no bodey tell u that i any tells you... confront them ....

True look bro they r not Igbos..they r Igalas but like to give them selves Igbo names..due to the dominating factor n success of Igbos..so southern Igalas always like to name their children at least an igbo name that was before the civil war...after the war many dropped their igbo names and started bearing their native igala names..

Hehehe.... I like your spirit, jare!

Don't allow anybody to call you what you are not. Maintain your uniqueness!

bigfrancis21:
Ordinarily, one wouldn't know. This is because they live close to the Anambra-Kogi border, around the Omambala river and River Niger confluence. They are bilingual in both Igala and Igbo. They make up about 2% of Anambra's population.

Hmmn.... small world! Are you sure they are just 2%? Someone on this thread said it was more like 5% of the population of Anambra state.
Just wondering.

HisMajesty1:
I studied Mass Commucation in Kogi state university. I can say I almost spent my four years there educating fellow students and lecturers alike that there are igalas in Anambra state and I'm even one. Most of them there do not even know except elderly people from idah and ibaji axis. I also had to learn their igala dialect there which is 80% a far cry from what we speak and understand especially for a Lagos born and bred like me. I'm very sure we will get more recognition in Anambra soonest as a paramount ruler of all the igala speaking communities have recently been appointed in the person of Igwe Pius Omachonu, being an influential man in the political circus over there.

Great!! I hope so, too.

Klinee:
We have also had discrimination mostly people from anambra central&south,enugu,abia,imo claiming that we are not anambrian. I want to use this medium to appeal to government of anambra state. If it will be possible to appoint two or three igala indigene as commissioner or any appointive position. Secondly to charge the medias to employ igalas to enable them create a programme where the language will be desseminate to people.

Would it be possible to get prominent Igala people from Anambra state and beyond to sponsor a programme on Igala culture and language in the media?? Just asking. If airtime for such programmes are paid for, then the media stations would have no choice but to air it. Money talks, and bull.sh'it walks, they say.

Please go the extra mile to preserve your language and identity, as much as you can!

Klinee:
How do u even reason? Tell person to go back to his home when he is in his home. Atturu!

Abeg, help me tell am!

blaqoracle:
ldid i hear the igbo say the igala should go back to kogi? imagine you people that cried your soul out when fashola repatriated your destitute brothers telling others to go baco to their state .

Hehehe...hahaha...LWKMD!!

You are wicked! Chai!

All you needed to do was to just explain to the guy, that the Igala in Anambra state are already at home! Their ancestral homes were located within the borders of Anambra state, by the silly people that partitioned the country and drew geographical borders across people's homes without any respect for cultural or linguistic affinity or consanguinity. So which home are they going back to, again? Did they keep any separate homes in Kogi? Chai. I weak o!

laudate:


Hehehe.... I like your spirit, jare!

Don't allow anybody to call you what you are not. Maintain your uniqueness!



Hmmn.... small world! Are you sure they are just 2%? Someone on this thread said it was more like 5% of the population of Anambra state.
Just wondering.

Am sure they r not recognize it's like 2percent o....cos they speak igala and they r located in the north part of anambra close to kogi n river niger

laudate:


Hahahaha...!! Very funny. I don't know why major tribes are always so dismissive of the minorities. Totally unfair.

@Cheruv, wey you dey?? Bia, come and read this thread.

@LastProphet : what do you think? Have you gone through this thread?

actually my bros it is said by many historians that plenty ibos have igala roots especially anambra, i have heard it before.

abagoro:


He committed a fallacy by authoritstively claiming blood purity for Imo State. In my side we have Ijaw, Igala and Benin ancestry too. The point I raised which he based his comments on is that Imo is the only State that is indigeneously 100% Igbo speaking. The reason is because the languages surrounding us are Igbo based like Ukwuani, Ikwerre and Etche on the Rivers and Delta side while the rest of our surrounding States are Igbo.

Hmmn... how interesting. So there are Igbo communities with Ijaw, Igala and Benin ancestry. Bros, thanks for the confirmation. May you live long.

Where is Cheruv that was telling me that the Igbo were the forbears of these groups??

maureensylvia:
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adusim:


Gbam!! Yet Anambra people always claim to be the origin of Igbos, however, as this thread clearly shows they (Ndi Anambra) are of mixed ancestry comprising Igala, Benin and Igbo. Imo State - as aptly described - is the Heartland of Igbos - 100%!

In Anambra, it appears to be true that they have mixed ancestry.

The inhabitants of Ogbaru towns such as the Akilis and Aboh migrated from Benin Empire. Those of Oko, Odekpe and Ossomala were descendants of Igala people from Nupe and Jukun empires of Northern Nigeria.

Most inhabitants of many other Ogbaru towns like Amiyi, Umuzu, Umuodu, Atani, Umunankwo, Ogwu-Aniocha originated from Igbo hinterland. Some also had a mix of people from the ancient Benin Kingdom.

It is noteworthy, that some of the towns that whose inhabitants were predominantly from Benin or the Igbo heartland also have some families that have Igala ancestry or bloodline in them—Ohita, Obeagwe Umueze Igala, and Atani. Oko,The towns of Odekpe and Ossomala continue to uniquely maintain their Igala cultural lineage in comparison with other towns. http://ogbaru.org/about-us/

laudate:


In Anambra, it appears to be true that they have mixed ancestry.

In honesty, some of these so-called 'migration' stories are half-truths and were cooked up only as recently. We Africans love to cook up stories and live by superstitions. Only DNA testing will determine correctly where whom actually migrated from.

Almost every village wants to make up some story how they migrated from some glorious place in the past, and then put it up on the internet and the falsity starts spreading from there.

bigfrancis21:


In honesty, some of these so-called 'migration' stories are half-truths and were cooked up only as recently. We Africans love to cook up stories and live by superstitions. Only DNA testing will determine correctly where whom actually migrated from.

Almost every village wants to make up some story how they migrated from some glorious place in the past, and then put it up on the internet and the falsity starts spreading from there.

Hmmn... I beg to differ. The truth is that everyone migrated from somewhere. Either because they were fleeing from marauders, or in a bid to escape conquest, or simply because of trading links, agricultural activities, nomadic wanderings or just to enhance business prospects.

A large number of scholars, anthropologists and historians, have actually found evidence to support some of the migration patterns, that were mentioned in the oral history of many African communities. The Ossomala community in Anambra, is a good example of an Igbo community with strong Igala influence. I used to wonder why this was the case, but now I understand better.

In the past, many of these findings were published in books and hardcover form. But some are now being published online. As long as there is concrete evidence to support a migration theory, am ready to accept it. Afterall, human beings did not just grow from the ground did they?

Nonsense! Igala ancestry, yet Igbos at no time had an empire, never colonized any non Igbo group as to force Igbo language on them, yet we have a supposedly Igala and Bini people speaking Igbo today as a first language.

Now this is the rational explanation. We all knew that Igala and Bini had strong Kingdoms, they invaded these Igbo communities with no monarchy but traditional Igbo republicans, these Bini and Igala invaders organized the hitherto aboriginal Igbo groups of those lands into kingdoms, made themselves kings, but because the natives were originally Igbo speaking and are in majority, these new invaders were forced to become Igbo speaking to relate with the people, and they introduced few Igala and Edo words into the original Igbo sentences of the aborigines.

These new invaders who became kings gained the respect of the people, and soon the people started citing the places of origins of those invaders as the origin of the entire community.

The second scenario is that the people migrated as an already Igbo speaking group living in Bini to their current locations when things fell apart for them in Bini.

Ezechima, Akalaka and Esumai fall into this category.

adeitoro:



but that is what he spoke to Mr John in their conversation.
Personally, I know Igalas don't speak Igbo, even I do listen to there programs in ABS radio2 Onitsha. I even know a Catholic priest from Anambra Igala thats speaks Igbo fluently, you can only know that he is not Igbo from his surname "Jemigbola"
Just that what he wrote in their conversation is Igbo unless the tone varies, then it is not Igbo.

Jemigbola is a Yoruba name, not Igala.. Nice thread, I hope the south west people can see this and learn somethings cos to them, we have only 3tribes in Nigeria.. South west people are so tribalistic and resistant to getting informed.. To them, the world starts and ends in Lagos and Ibadan..

flightz:
Jemigbola is a Yoruba name, not Igala.. Nice thread, I hope the south west people can see this and learn somethings cos to them, we have only 3tribes in Nigeria.. South west people are so tribalistic and resistant to getting informed.. To them, the world starts and ends in Lagos and Ibadan..

Igala is a Yoruboid language, so expect to see a few Igala names that look Yoruba. The Catholic priest he is talking about is probably Fr Hyacinth Jemigbola, an Anambra Igala from Igbedor, in Anambra West, LGA.