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Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 4:19pm On Nov 07, 2014
No,I don't
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 4:20pm On Nov 07, 2014
No,I don't
RedBenson:


Did you understand my point of quoting you?
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by gunners160(m): 4:21pm On Nov 07, 2014
Coolboyz:
Pls fellow nairalanders, how marketable is the course NUTRITION AND DIETICS?
nutrition nd dietics is a nyc course o o o
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 4:40pm On Nov 07, 2014
phinerd:

No,I don't

I fit wisper into your ears?
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by twaintoy(f): 4:44pm On Nov 07, 2014
I studied mass comm but got IT blood in my veins. Professional courses all da way.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 4:50pm On Nov 07, 2014
Whisper make I hear grin
RedBenson:


I fit wisper into your ears?
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Coolboyz: 4:54pm On Nov 07, 2014
gunners160:
nutrition nd dietics is a nyc course o o o
That doesn't answer my question sir/ma.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by gracile(f): 5:13pm On Nov 07, 2014
good evening sir, i need ur advice on this; ok medicine had always been my dream course buh due to some factors like that, I ended studying biochemistry even fell in love with it. I'm in my finals now currently writing my project, then my dad comes up with this idea that i should go for a second degree in medicine ofcourse he knows someone who would help and he's ready to sponsor, buh I'm thinking it's better i go for my masters... I really dont know which is better, can u help?
*modified * i also need y'alls view on this
thanks in advance...
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 5:26pm On Nov 07, 2014
Jarus:


Yes, he went for Msc in an electronic course in the UK after his first degree in Physics. He had first class in physics from Ife in 2005, a year my senior.

He got job with Chevron.

Unfortunately, he was the Chevron guy that kidnapped and later killed late last year https://www.nairaland.com/1203632/oluwatoyin-akanbi-missing-please


I know him very well as he was a friend. He and his closest pal, same class in ife both got jobs in chevron before toyin even went for his Msc in reservoir evaluation at HWU on his study leave.
The close pal graduated with 2.1 and still works for chevron till date. Those are just two out of many. I have lost count of Ife physics graduates working in Mobil unlimited, total exploration, chevron, Schlumberger e.t.c with first degree, no masters. There are lots of them in telcos too.
Most of the ones abroad are also working for different engineering firms.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Sijioke(m): 5:31pm On Nov 07, 2014
Jarus:
I wrote this for 10MinutesWith, a UK-based career and education platform.

http://www.10minuteswith.com/blog/does-undergraduate-course-study-really-matter

As an African blogger with focus on education and career mentoring, one common question I get from student readers from time to time is, “How marketable is my course of study?” This is surprising given the fact that a student is expected to know the marketability of his course of study before opting for it in the first place. But anyone that is familiar with the educational system of African countries, especially Nigeria, will know that many students are more bothered about getting admission into University than the relevance of the course of study that they are pursuing.

It is common in Nigeria for a student to apply for a certain course, say Economics, but due to the inability to meet the cut-off score for admission into the chosen department, he is offered admission to study a less competitive course, say Sociology. The implication of this is that someone that has primary interest in one course will find himself being forced, so to speak, to study another course because that was the course “given” to him by the University he applied to.

Although a few undergraduates will stand their ground and do not mind spending another year at home to retake the entrance examinations, many students take the offered courses because they are not confident that they will get admitted into their desired department even after retaking the entrance examination. The latter set of students are the ones that come to the internet to ask for the marketability of the courses of study offered to them.

But does course of study at undergraduate level really matter? The truth is, except for highly specialised professions like Medicine, Engineering et cetera, you can become almost anything without having your first degree in that line. Even for Engineering, many postgraduate schools allow you to do your Masters in engineering courses with a related Science first degree.

In some cases, you don’t even need a second degree in a specific career line before you become a professional in that industry, all you need to do is to gather practical experience or run some courses in the desired field.

The current president of the World Bank, Jim Yong Kim, is my favorite example. The Korean-American studied Medicine at Harvard Medical School for his first degree. He now heads a Financial Institution. There are many top investment bankers that studied courses that are far off from Finance or Banking. Even Christine Lagarde, the current Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), another financial and economic institution, studied, not economics, not Finance, but Law, for her first degree. She is now a Finance guru.

A good number of the best accountants around the world studied Economics. In fact, I don’t usually advise my mentees to study Accounting. All you need to do to become an Accountant is to write relevant accounting professional examinations like that of the Association of Chartered Certified Accountants (ACCA), Institute of Chartered Accountants of England and Wales (ICAEW) or other recognised accounting professional exams of the local country. I have friends who studied courses as far off as Agriculture but are now working as Accountants because they wrote and passed the qualifying exams of a relevant accounting body.

First degree, most times, is just to broaden the student’s horizon, to improve his cognitive processes. It hardly determines what one goes on to be in life. This is why I normally advise young students to make the best of whatever courses they are studying and not to be demotivated by their inability to get the course of their desired study.
Op,Is it good to confront a pastor on a course of study?
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 5:37pm On Nov 07, 2014
phinerd:


Whisper make I hear grin

Ok, but promise me say u no go tell person.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 5:42pm On Nov 07, 2014
rioemmanuel:
Mr jarus,nice article up there.
Let me also use this medium to ask you this question that has been disturbing me for some time now.
Career wise,which do you think is the best,computer science or elect engineering.
Go for elect. It's more specialized. With a degree in elect,you can get your IT certifications and you are good to go.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 5:49pm On Nov 07, 2014
Coolboyz:
Pls fellow nairalanders, how marketable is the course NUTRITION AND DIETICS?
Very marketable in developed countries. They work as dietitians in Hospitals and Clinics.

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Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 5:52pm On Nov 07, 2014
freshdude:
My kid bro wanted to study medicine but ended up finding himself in biochemistry. And to be honest with you, I don't want him to study BCM cause is not really marketable in Nigeria. I prefer Engineering. I have been persuading him to do change of course to Engineering. I guess I will leave him to finish with BCM and switch to Engineering for masters.
It would be very hard for a Biochem to study masters in Engineering. Easy for physical sciences like Physics, maths, chemistry and Geology but not biological sciences.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 6:03pm On Nov 07, 2014
FrancisTony:


Have you asked yourself if engineering really marketable in Nigeria?

Well, not all Engineers attended a University education, with Civil, Petroleum and Chemical Engineering being an exception.

By the way, he wanted Medicine and ended up in BCM and you want him to switch to Engineering which is entirely different from Medicine and BCM. Can he cope? Hmm
All engineers attended university, except you are referring to Technologist, technicians and trades people. In fact petroleum engineering is one of the least specialized courses in Engineering. e.g a geologist, physicist or civil engineer can work as a petroleum engineer but surely not the other way round.
Jerry24kay:
I always like seeing this .
IMO I think there sud be Technical college where Practical things can be done.
For instance Some university will only give out theories and not show d student what It entails ..I studied Comp.sci but all I knw abt computer I didn't learn it from my sch ..dts hw bad it is .
If there were Technical colleges like before the issue of Entrepreneurship would be more easier ..
Yes, that's why we have polytechnics and school of technical education. But everyone wants to go to Uni cos their parents wants them to attend one instead of following their passion.
Fkhalifa:
I don't get why everybody seem to be ending up in the banking sector in spite their course of study?
Well, that's one of the highest employers of labour in Nigeria. Engineers do not enjoy working in banks or other non engineering roles but there aren't much choices in Nigeria.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by rioemmanuel(m): 6:06pm On Nov 07, 2014
saxywale:

Go for elect. It's more specialized. With a degree in elect,you can get your IT certifications and you are good to go.
Thank you sir,I am grateful
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 6:07pm On Nov 07, 2014
rioemmanuel:
Thank you sir,I am grateful
UWC sir.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Jamzig1(m): 6:15pm On Nov 07, 2014
@Saxywale, sir what post exactly do the physicists u said graduated from ife work as in chevron and the rest u mentioned?
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Jarus(m): 6:26pm On Nov 07, 2014
saxywale:

I know him very well as he was a friend. He and his closest pal, same class in ife both got jobs in chevron before toyin even went for his Msc in reservoir evaluation at HWU on his study leave.
The close pal graduated with 2.1 and still works for chevron till date. Those are just two out of many. I have lost count of Ife physics graduates working in Mobil unlimited, total exploration, chevron, Schlumberger e.t.c with first degree, no masters. There are lots of them in telcos too.
Most of the ones abroad are also working for different engineering firms.

That is my point. And some people are wailing for being "given" physics.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 6:55pm On Nov 07, 2014
saxywale:

I know him very well as he was a friend. He and his closest pal, same class in ife both got jobs in chevron before toyin even went for his Msc in reservoir evaluation at HWU on his study leave.
The close pal graduated with 2.1 and still works for chevron till date. Those are just two out of many. I have lost count of Ife physics graduates working in Mobil unlimited, total exploration, chevron, Schlumberger e.t.c with first degree, no masters. There are lots of them in telcos too.
Most of the ones abroad are also working for different engineering firms.

be like say na only ppeople wey attended ife de work for chevron nd shell. Hw bout other uni's like A.B.U
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Jarus(m): 8:01pm On Nov 07, 2014
papiforreal:


be like say na only ppeople wey attended ife de work for chevron nd shell. Hw bout other uni's like A.B.U

No, every recognized university has representative in these IOCs. Maybe the first generation uni's have more presence.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 8:06pm On Nov 07, 2014
Jarus:


That is my point. And some people are wailing for being "given" physics.
Exactly bro. The most important thing is to finish well. Most of the guys with physics degree have 1st class and 2.1. Just a few with 2.2 made it into the o&g industry.

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Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 8:08pm On Nov 07, 2014
Jarus:


No, every recognized university has representative in these IOCs. Maybe the first generation uni's have more presence.
True. If one visits the Geology and applied geophysics dept of OAU. One's jaw would drop. Their alumni are doing wonders in terms of funding that department.
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Phemmy99(m): 9:51pm On Nov 07, 2014
gracile:
good evening sir, i need ur advice on this; ok medicine had always been my dream course buh due to some factors like that, I ended studying biochemistry even fell in love with it. I'm in my finals now currently writing my project, then my dad comes up with this idea that i should go for a second degree in medicine ofcourse he knows someone who would help and he's ready to sponsor, buh I'm thinking it's better i go for my masters... I really dont know which is better, can u help?
*modified * i also need y'alls view on this
thanks in advance...
Follow your heart!
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Jamzig1(m): 10:04pm On Nov 07, 2014
@Jarus,Xfire,Saxywale,Iamtheprincipal...After my Bsc.Physics which 1 is advisable to go for?:
1. Direct Msc. in Applied geophysics
2. PGD Elect/Elect engineering then Msc. Elect/Elect engineering
anticipating your responses sir(s)
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by shakol91(m): 10:21pm On Nov 07, 2014
Abuklaw:
you can check online or survey you environment for credible centers to train for the aforementioned courses. You can start one after the other.
alright thanks. Please which one is best suitable for accounting/management student
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by cristweeezy(m): 10:30pm On Nov 07, 2014
Could remember the time my friends and I used to laugh @ people studying sociology. We were into engineering courses. Most of them are now through,based on the fact it was a 4-year course and ours was 5. And besides,most of my friends now have extras. Little did we know then that sociology was a little bit stressful unlike engineering. Had I known I opted for a social science course
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Nobody: 11:14pm On Nov 07, 2014
Jamzig1:
@Jarus,Xfire,Saxywale,Iamtheprincipal...After my Bsc.Physics which 1 is advisable to go for?:
1. Direct Msc. in Applied geophysics
2. PGD Elect/Elect engineering then Msc. Elect/Elect engineering
anticipating your responses sir(s)
To be honest, that is hard to say because Physics is very broad. You don't need a PGDIP in elect/electronics. You would be offered straight admission to the Msc if you graduate with atleast a 2.2. You might even develop other interest apart from those two listed. e.g One of friend(a physics graduate) is a chartered account working with one of the big firms. One of my Oga back at Uni infact gained employment after graduation as a business analyst with (One of the Big 4), after 2 years, he moved to telco(one of the 4 in Nigeria). Now he works with Mobil unlimited as an exploration geophysicist. I called him Oga because I haven't in my life met someone as brilliant has that guy. He is a genius.

Another Physics graduate I know is working as a medical Physicist in one of the FMC's. I have another senior working as an instrumentation engineer in one of the Subsea engineering coy. One of my Junior is working as a welding Engineer/NDT in one of the biggest fabrication firms for the Oil and Gas industry. I don't want to mention the companies on here as the guy is on Nairaland. Another is working as a Materials and metallurgical engineering in one of the in the UK.

Yours truly worked as a Credit Analyst(UK and Nigeria), Transportation Engineer(UK). Now I am trying to get into the quality Engineering/welding/NDT sector here in Canada. That is how flexible a physics degree is. The career option you have with a physics degree is numerous, that is why they call Physics, the ''Bedrock of Engineering''. I move with the need of whichever country I find myself. Now my background in Physics is what made me so flexible.

What I can advise is that get in first, by the time you get to your 3rd or 4th year, then you can start thinking of specializing. But remember to finish strong. It would give you a better chance in the competitive job market.

My 2 cents. wink

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Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Jamzig1(m): 11:53pm On Nov 07, 2014
^^^^
Wow! i am very impressed with what i am seeing. Knowing what people that passed through the field are achieving/have achieved gives me inspiration to do more. Thanks a lot for the insight...by the way are u sure i don't need a pgdip b4 msc.elect/elect cos most universites requirements i have checked said d opposite..Thanks again
Re: Does Undergraduate Course Of Study Really Matter? by Giitheon(m): 11:55pm On Nov 07, 2014
Pls i want 2 kw......wats d main diffrnce, in terms of proffessionalism wit an engineer wit n Hnd nd one wit a bsc??....jst wnt 2 hv a vry clear undastnding.

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