joshkc:
buh for sure, 9ja hav d highest numba of military personals in Africa

yes,we have over 200,000 military personnel.we have the largest military force on this continent.

Henry120:

I've been doing this sh1t for years, I remember posting this photo back in 2012.

imagine.we've just got to remind these people who the boss is,even if it takes posting "sh1t" all the time.LOL.

MikeCZAR:
Training is more important than combat experience.


I'll deploy your tactics against you Naija boy.

Mumu talk.


Combat experience is the very best training an infantry man can receive.

MikeCZAR:
Carried on a truck.

It is un-operational.

Do you wanna see SA missile armed T-72 again?

I'll burn you Naija boy, You've been warned.

I'm sure the supposed T-72 can also fly.

Operational Nigerian T-72B.

MikeCZAR:
Send them to Zimbabwe for real special forces training.

whats this ebola czar saying?.unlike you guys who require botswana's help in eliminating ordinary rhino poaching,a task that your vaunted SANDF cant do,our military personnels receive the best trainings in all fields of combat.we can overrun your neighbouring{SADC} countries in weeks,subsequently come knocking on pretoria's door and pissing on the calabash stadium at the same time.

Patchesagain:


No, the Chally was penetrated by its own reactive armor. Caused by a one in a million shot. Fired by the most advanced RPG there is. And all that happened is that the driver lost a toe. Again, you are talking about something you know nothing about.

Meanwhile, when a BMP-2 gets hit by an old RPG-7

And yes, it is safe to say that not many rebel groups in the world have acess to top-of-the-line Russian RPG's

You personally old the most advanced RPG to Afghanistan terrorists?

The Challenger tank was hit by an RPG and the fact remains that it was penetrated. Simple.

The armour on the Badger IFV five times weaker than the armour of Challenger MBT that was penetrated by RPG.

Poland's Rosomak IFV in your own source was hit by an ordinary HE RPG-7 not Armour Piercing RPG or HEAT RPG-7 that penetrates even Main Battle Tanks that have 100mm solid steel armour. Does your Badger have the armour equal to a tank ? No !

Then according to your own source the Rosomak IFV was not the ordinary version, it was the special version with upgraded armour built to resist RPG. The report also says that an RPG was fired directly on the Rosomak IFV frontal armour which is always the thickest armour on any IFV.

"In early 2008 a Polish Rosomak serving in Afghanistan (the version with upgraded armor) was attacked by Taliban rebels. The vehicle was hit by two RPG-7 rockets. In June 2008 a Rosomak was attacked by Taliban and was hit in its frontal armor with a RPG. The armour was not penetrated."


Old RPG-7 HEAT shell is built to penetrate over 500mm thick armour of steel, so even if Badger IFV has double the armour of Ratel, with 40mm thickness all round, the RPG-7 HEAT will slice through the Badger like a hot knife cuts through butter.

"The RPG-7 can fire a variety of warheads for anti-armor (HEAT, PG-Protivotankovaya Granata) or anti-personnel (HE, OG-Oskolochnaya Granata) purposes, usually fitting with an impact (PIBD) and a 4.5 second fuze. Armor penetration is warhead dependent and ranges from 300mm to 600mm of RHA armour; one warhead, the PG-7VR, is a 'tandem charge' device, used to defeat reactive armor with a single shot. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPG-7


Badger will die roasted by one single shot from an old generation anti-armour RPG-7 !

Better go write your final will on how your property will be shared among your family and close relatives. Fool !
.

agaugust:


Mbombe is not important, it has ONLY ONE SINGLE potential small buyer . Lol
.

Mbombe is Revolutional. Its the first MRAP without the traditional V-hull.. it's one of the few RPG-7 resistance IFVs on earth.

Patchesagain:


You said it was protected against 23mm, implying that it was completely protected from the Ratel.

In actual fact it is only protected against 7.62 with limited 23mm protection.

In future, chose your words wisely

In future, use your head wisely.

When people quote vehicle armour millimeters for you in summary, they only mention frontal armour, unless the person wants to write long story about six different armour thicknesses around the same vehicle on different parts.

Learn to use your head, a website posted BMP-2 summary below and all that was mentioned in the summary is 33mm armour

You Domingo Block-Head
.

...

.....

mzilakazi:
@Henry-SA has more than $3trillion of mineral reserves in today's money more than what Nigerias 39 bn barrels of oil in reserve can make. SA is the world richest country in mineral reserves, the world's number one. That makes SA many a times richer than Nigeria.

Nigeria has more than oil, we also have gas and condensates as our second and third type of hydrocarbon. We also have many solid minerals in top world rankings, like Bitumen, Limestone, etc.

I proved it on this forum last year, Nigeria is the richest country in Africa by natural resources, second is Congo DRC.

Patchesagain:


NATO was afraid of the Shilka in the 1970's

How many JDAM's did the Shilka stop in Iraq (twice) or Yugoslavia or Libya?

Clown, CRAM ammunition was invented specifically to engage such bombs... and you think an old Shilka can do it?

Shilka is not a threat to the Gripen, Shilka is not a threat to anything modern except attack helicopters.

NATO has air to surface missiles to defeat the Shilka, but South Africa has NONE !

A high speed 1,500 km/hr air to surface missiles is as fast as a jet fighter and hard for a Shilka to shoot down, but a snail slow speed 85 km/hr South African Gripen guided bomb is a simple target practice for a Shilka radar and 4-barrel guns to tear into pieces !

ANC and SANDF-SAAF were stupiid enough to buy 26 Gripen jets and could not think of removing one Gripen from the shopping list and use the saved $50 million to buy BVR missiles and Maverick air to surface missiles. Nation of plum headed Olodos

Henry120:


Again looking at your Gripen cockpit, how does this jet conduct the so called ISTAR?

Gripen does no real ISTAR, it does Recce, that is what NATO officially declared they did, and not alone, only 37% of the Recce was done by Gripen jets from Sweden. Real capable NATO Recce aircraft did the major Recce work in Libya, other aircraft did 63%.

Gripen jet is fake ISTAR....LOL !

Patchesagain:
[size=14pt]Hey auugubgugug... when you gunna post your uniform and weapon?

lol... i cant wait

(apparently accountants working for PMC's wear uniforms and are issued pistols)[/size]

[size=14pt]Every modern army in this world has accountants, and PMCs use them too. Anywhere money is present to be accounted for, you find accountants.

Btwn, in the American military, graduates of accounting and all other fields are commissioned as combatant officers after relevant training, your first degree is not barrier, and few people have BSc military science, American General Colin Powel has BSc Geology and Masters Degree Business administration and he is armoured corp combatant officer.

America will accept any type of BSc into military service.

Then why are you obsessed about my photo, my red zone camo uniform and my gun ?

I will post it when you post your source for ATR-42 radar range !
. [/size]

Patchesagain:


Is there a two seat gripen?

J
O
K
E
R

Two seat Gripen is trainer version NOT special ISTAR version, the extra cockpit console is an instrument panel for student-instructor training interface, I have entered jet fighter trainer cockpit before and had a look dude !
.

Patchesagain:


The ones that Recce Pods are designed to operate at

Exactly what NATO said, Gripens do ONLY Recce NOT any ISTAR...Proved by you, thanks Patrick my boy !
.

Patchesagain:


America upgraded the armor on the brad so it cannot cross rivers... so they have no amphib... what difference does it make?

America has other amphibious vehicles and they are rapidly building new ones to catch up with Russia.

SANDF has ZERO amphibious capability, you are stuck to dray land combat only, SANDF will drown when it faces water terrain
.

Patchesagain:


Also, you are right, Badger does not have 100mm of solid steel. It has composite armor

Welcome to the 21st century

Welcome to the TRUTH century, Badger has NO composite armour, all it has is common steel that RPG-7 will tear into pieces. Liar, you Liar !

"The Badger is made in all-welded steel armour which provides a protection against firing of small arms and shell splinters."

http://www.armyrecognition.com/south_africa_african_army_wheeled_armoured_vehicle/badger_denel_8x8_armoured_infantry_fighting_vehicle_technical_data_sheet_specifications_pictures_.html
.

MikeCZAR:
Send them to Zimbabwe for real special forces training.

Nigeria trained Zimbabwean military officers in our academy.

agaugust:


[size=16pt]

Quote a NATO source, it was a NATO operation. South African source will say SANDF killed 1,000 Seleka rebels with no photo of single dead Seleka rebel available in this world from that battle in Bangui.

Nation of liars.

Your source clearly says Gripen did NO single ISTAR in Libya, Swedish Gripen did far less than half of ONLY basic and simple RECONNAISSANCE, the ISTA is missing, only the R was done by the poorly rated and incapable Gripen jets

Your source also revealed that loiter time of Gripen in Recce role is less than the 1 hour I expected, Gripen can only fly 40 minutes in patrol recconnaisance role....one of the worst patrol endurance aircraft in the world

Lol, now it's clear NATO was doing real ISTAR in Libya using American ISTAR aircraft .

Lol , no ISTAR aircraft in South Africa o ! SAAF is obsolete o !

.
[/size]

Why are you behaving like an ape?

The source is pretty clear

How do you calculate 1 hour loiter time?

Why is loiter time relevant?

Henry120:


But you can clearly see a Nigerian soldier, how is that it isn't in service?

You're saying, it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, feeds like a duck, but somehow, it isn't a duck?

No,

The question is not where it is a duck

But WHERE the duck is

A small picture of a T-72 (of unknown model type) on a transport on a road in a topography and biome that could literally be on any of the worlds continents

Henry120:


You've been unable to disapprove nothing.

That's a Nigerian army T-72B in Adamawa state, N.E Nigeria.

In this case, it's actually a duck.

And this is a South African Merkava in the Karoo, Southern South Africa

Henry120:


Nigerian army T-72B in the field. #pictorial evidence.

no proof that it is Nigerian

agaugust:


Mbombe is not important, it has ONLY ONE SINGLE potential small buyer . Lol
.

Thats one more buyer than the Igiri

Henry120:


Mumu talk.


Combat experience is the very best training an infantry man can receive.

No it is not.

If it was soldiers from Afghanistan, Somalia, Mali and Congo would be the best in the world.

Again, as Gulf War 1 showed, combat experience is useless when your foe is better motivated, trained and organized.

This has been common knowledge since ROMAN TIMES.... the saying:

Their drills are bloodless battles and their battles are bloody drills

agaugust:


America has other amphibious vehicles and they are rapidly building new ones to catch up with Russia.

SANDF has ZERO amphibious capability, you are stuck to dray land combat only, SANDF will drown when it faces water terrain
.

So, is that a problem? Ethiopia does not have a navy, so does that count negatively to them? SA has engineer corps who can build a bridge in just matter of minutes. Capability that Nigeria does not have.

agaugust:


You mean the Soweto made AHRLAC toy planes that American amateurs manufacture at home in their car garages ?
.

Wanna provide facts?

agaugust:


You mean the Soweto made AHRLAC toy planes that American amateurs manufacture at home in their car garages ?
.

Wanna provide facts?

EVarn:
yes,we have over 200,000 military personnel.we have the largest military force on this continent.

Actually Egypt has the largest.

Henry120:


Mumu talk.


Combat experience is the very best training an infantry man can receive.

No, Training is more important than combat experience.

Remember "In the military you're told what to do".

Henry120:


I'm sure the supposed T-72 can also fly.

Operational Nigerian T-72B.

Do you wanna see the missile armed T-72?

Do you wanna see South Africa's missile armed BMP-2?

EVarn:
whats this ebola czar saying?.unlike you guys who require botswana's help in eliminating ordinary rhino poaching,a task that your vaunted SANDF cant do,our military personnels receive the best trainings in all fields of combat.we can overrun your neighbouring{SADC} countries in weeks,subsequently come knocking on pretoria's door and pissing on the calabash stadium at the same time.

Angola can stop you in your trails before we can even get involved.

You failed to stop the rebels in Mali.

West Africa is the worst region in Africa led by the supposed giant.

Rhino poaching isn't a military threat. Around less than 1000 rangers guard an area almost the size of Israel.

Again Nigerian soldiers aren't that well trained.