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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Nobody: 12:00am On Dec 14, 2014
Jesus is the way

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by SeverusSnape(m): 12:02am On Dec 14, 2014
Now that's a question I've asked both my Muslim and Christian friends, The Christians claim theirs is "the way, the truth and the light", Muslims claim the same thing, I believe the Hindus, Buddhists, Sikhs, Shintos etc believe the same thing,the question is this....Those that doesn't share the same religious beliefs with you, what is their fate?...are they damned
Those were the questions I asked myself before I took my stand of being irreligious. Furthermore, If I had been born into a Buddhist home, I probably would have been a monk, It's not something we have a liberty to choose from the start, we're just born into it.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Ucheosefoh(m): 12:03am On Dec 14, 2014
Op God bless you infact let me focus on Christianity the rate we abuse each other denominations is worrisome sometimes I wonder if it is not the same God and Jesus Christ we worship. I keep telling my friends that we were all born into this denominations with their doctrines and bibles compose to suit each denominational doctrines and passed to us, we only read or hear about the origin and were not there when it started why abusing and fighting eachother like our lives depended on it. I use to tell them that no church is the best that Christianity is in the heart and everybody should worship God in their own way and understanding God judge us by our individual characters not by the church we attend. I hate religious arguments because of this and I hate to castigate other denominations because inasmuch as you think all your doctrines are right somebody will come one day to prove you wrong. Catholics pray rosary and call upon Mary for divine interventions, other churches don't believe in it, Jehova witnesses believe that their is no heaven rather paradise which is earth that Christ will rule with the righteous ones after the judgment till eternity they also don't believe in Christmas and Easter celebrations that other churches do. Sabbath believes in old testament. Jehova witnesses calls God jehova, Sabbath calls God Yahwe, the chosen calls God, God of chosen. Confusion everywhere with different denominations calming to be the best and only true church. I believe God knows who worship him with righteousness and I also believe everybody should believe what they want to believe and leave others to believe on their own on the last day we will know who is right or wrong.
Last note: I am not a church goer just a free thinker even due I was born and raise a Catholic I don't mind to attend any church I feel like if in case I want to attend church.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Chinaka2014(m): 12:08am On Dec 14, 2014
[quote author=Microtee post=28786892]We shall know the truth and it shall set us free[/quote
how and who will tell us the truth hence nobody believe his brother.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by aminusanti(m): 12:10am On Dec 14, 2014
shdemidemi:
We must first admit in our heart that creation and our being is beyond what an imperfect man can put together. After scaling the hurdle of consciousness of a supernatural being, our next inquisition should be narrowed to who he is and how he can be known.

Every religion of the world touch a bit of the supernatural being. We must discern what religion esteem the creature to the religion that points us to the creator.

The next hurdle should be the religion that best describes man and the one that best describe God in His fullness. This might demand a lot of interest, study and willingness to learn.

Very True smiley
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Slitz(f): 12:11am On Dec 14, 2014
malvisguy212:
muhammed claim the truth descend on him in the cave of hira, dose this mean all the pass prophet were living in lies? The quran say muhammed is the first muslim.
How did u arrive at the conclusion that the past Prophets could have been living in lies when I stated clearly that they all preached the same message and that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) only brought the message from God which is a confirmation of what came before. None of the Prophets ever ordered that you worship other than the Creator, they all preached the message of submission to the Creator. and Islam is derived from the root word of Submission and peace!

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Slitz(f): 12:18am On Dec 14, 2014
Weah96:


How do you know that Jesus is not the Lord who created you? That's the whole point of the thread.
I do not think the deviation of Christianity has gotten so bad that it is now believed that Jesus(peace be upon him) is the Creator. If he was , then he probably prayed to himself abi? and prostrated to himself right? and cried to himself right? and was a Prophet to himself right?. He was only a noble messenger, respected in this world and the afterlife. An honored slave!

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Idrismusty97(m): 12:21am On Dec 14, 2014
undecided

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Weah96: 12:22am On Dec 14, 2014
Slitz:
I do not think the deviation of Christianity has gotten so bad that it is now believed that Jesus(peace be upon him) is the Creator. If he was , then he probably prayed to himself abi? and prostrated to himself right? and cried to himself right? and was a Prophet to himself right?. He was only a noble messenger, respected in this world and the afterlife. An honored slave!

Christians believe that Jesus is God. The point of this thread is to figure out why you disagree, when you and a Christian will agree on almost everything else not related to religion.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Nobody: 12:24am On Dec 14, 2014
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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Nobody: 12:30am On Dec 14, 2014
McSterling:
This is an honest question that believers do not like to ask themselves. You are a Christian or Muslim simply because your parents were, and thus indoctrinated you with it. Some of you overzealous Christians would have been terrorists by now, had you been raised in a Muslim home.
Dear, why do people keep posting the above as if they have never heard of Christians who converted to Islam in adult or vise versa or better still children abroad who had no religious upbringing and yet claimed to find God in one religion or the other. True, in reality indoctrination is very capable of making one believe in something nonexistent but until the said thing can be proved to to be nonexistent you cannot site indoctrination as the reasons (out of many possible reasons) why one believes in the said thing.

BTW
Why is it that many atheist come here and create threads questioning others believes and not theirs. Faining ignorance whereas they know exactly what they are doing.It's easier asking questions than answering one. Many will never stand up to question their lack of believe but would rather question others believe and watch theirs perceived failings then use that to further justify their lack of believe. This one one of the reasons why I have resisted all temptation to post in such threads until know.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Charz3(m): 12:36am On Dec 14, 2014
The simple truth is that if indeed there is God; he/she doesn't give a hoot of which religion we claim to belong.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Nobody: 12:40am On Dec 14, 2014
frosbel:
Lets be honest, we are all born into a culture , religion and tradition. We are a product of these factors plus the additional factor of parental upbringing.

Considering that there are over 50 world religions including the main ones , i.e Islam and Christianity each with a plethora of denominations or sects , especially in Christianity with over 40,000 sects and still growing, how can one be 100% confident that his/her religion and sect is the right one ??

Mr A is a Muslim and can swear with his life that Islam is the one and true religion and without this no one can be saved, Mr B is a Christian who believes that anyone who does not believe in Jesus is forever lost. But they were born into these religions and were tutored from kindergarten that they ONLY worship the true GOD.

Furthermore at a high level , the Sunnis believe the Shiites are hell bound and vice versa, Deeperlife believe they have the right doctrines but so do Christ embassy and redeemed.

We have so many doctrines, teachings, beliefs etc , but HOW DOES MAN FILTER THROUGH ALL THIS CONFUSION TO KNOW WHICH IS THE RIGHT WAY ?

Knowing that 40% of the worlds population will never agree with Islam or Christianity or may not even have heard about them, how can we be so sure that we are right and they are wrong and we are saved but they are damned. What is the premise for your conclusion ?

Please help me here.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Krucifax(m): 12:42am On Dec 14, 2014
Mr Poster do you see how this thread exposes the weak mindedness and inability of some humans to carry out functional logical thought. It is not only a function of being black or African. The world population I believe is full of a majority of the types of people commenting. They fear to reason beyond their perceived boundaries. There is nothing you can do to change or stimulate thought in them. It's not just religion it's also in politics. The sad fact of life is that many humans are sheep and have an inborn desire to be led. To have peace and make sense of the world sheep need to be told what to do. It's the only way they can find meaning. The majority of sheep will conveniently ignore the question and regurgitate their childhood indoctrinations. They are mentally incapable of thinking outside the box. This is the nature of some humans

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Truckpusher(m): 12:43am On Dec 14, 2014
plaetton:
Lol.
Since all them cannot be right , it is then likely that all of them are wrong.

But seriously, the explanation is right there in your face.
Beliefs are mere mental constructs. Different minds, different personalities, different cultures , all have different mental constructs.

What happens once in a while is that some dominant and charismatic individuals either persuade others or bamboozle others to follow and adopt his(usually male) own mental constructs for some time, until the another rises to start the cycle again.
That's how we ended up with countless religions and countless sects and denominations.
You've not answered his question but anyway let me take you from there.

Don't you think it is better to allow people to live with their mental constructs rather than exchange it for a society with a dead conscience and no fear of retribution from higher beings like God? In as much as I have consistently said that religion alone contributes more and has killed more people than it has ever saved it is still a necessary tool to control the conscience of men to an extent.

Have you noticed the attitude of a child raised by ardent atheists ,how do they relate with kids that are raised by a religious people?
I bet you that if you open your eyes to what a society we would end up with without religion ,you will begin to appreciate how religion has helped mankind to make sense of his existence and usefulness even as it continuously make us too dumb.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by cegxie(m): 12:44am On Dec 14, 2014
True worship (religion) is of the heart.. Chritian or muslim. If your heart is not right before God and before man, even if you call fire down from heaven, you are deceiving yourself. So no matter your place of worship, the machinations of your heart is what determines who you are and what you are.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Slitz(f): 12:46am On Dec 14, 2014
Weah96:


Christians believe that Jesus is God. The point of this thread is to figure out why you disagree, when you and a Christian will agree on almost everything else not related to religion.
I believe I have answered the question u asked about why I think Jesus Christ was not the Creator. We must understand something about Haqq(Truth) and that is that it is universal. The messengers where not sent to confuse us, they came with a plain message, not a mathematical theory that is devoid of logic( sorry if that sounds too harsh) I have no better words to describe it. But how can someone tell me that God has a son, who is also God and then died!!! Subhanallah! God died!!! and that he came to wash their sins away and YET they would account for all their deeds! how can I agree to an ideology that does not make any sense. A son that Abraham (The friend of God) never knew about, Adam never knew about, Job never knew about. An ideology with so much controversy that even some christian sects have affirmed CANNOT be true. An ideology that has no evidence in the earlier scriptures! when I have seen a clip of an ancient bible discovered by some people(not Muslims) in Jerusalem (not sure of the exact city) and contained NO claim by Jesus (pbuh) that he is God but rather addressed himself as the servant of God! How then can I possibly accept such?

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Weah96: 12:47am On Dec 14, 2014
Truckpusher:
You've not answered his question but anyway let me take you from there.

Don't you think it is better to allow people to live with their mental constructs rather than exchange it for a society with a dead conscience and no fear of retribution from higher beings like God? In as much as I have consistently said that religion alone contributes more and has killed more people than it has ever saved it is still a necessary tool to control the conscience of men to an extent.

Have you noticed the attitude of a child raised by ardent atheists ,how do they relate with kids that are raised by a religious people?
I bet you that if you open your eyes to what a society we would end up with without religion ,you will begin to appreciate how religion has helped mankind to make sense of his existence and usefulness even as it continuously make us too dumb.

The truth is always better than lies, my brother. And very often, it's painful to acknowledge too.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Nobody: 12:49am On Dec 14, 2014
Would you believe in what you believe in, if you were the only one that belived in it?

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by cold(m): 12:49am On Dec 14, 2014
This is the sum of all gods & religions...All religions are false, founded upon fables and mythologies. All gods are man made,reason why they take on all the attributes of man;savage,brutish and irksome. Simple as.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Truckpusher(m): 12:51am On Dec 14, 2014
Weah96:


The truth is always better than lies, my brother. And very often, it's painful to acknowledge too.
I don't get it - enlighten me a little please.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by denigma2(m): 12:56am On Dec 14, 2014
The reality is that in order to answer the question, of which religion is the right one, we've got to think for ourselves based on available information.
We've got to think from the known to the unknown
If per adventure I find myself inside a moving train or a bus, which kind of questions would I ask myself? Why am I here? Where is this train going to? Where am I coming from? Who placed me here? What is expected of me?...
Everyone other thing would be insignificant until I find answers to these questions.
Unfortunately, we've all taken these life defining questions for granted. If we spend our entire lives seeking the reasons, essence and source of our existence, it would be worthwhile.
We end up depending on others for answers. Lets ask ourselves. Can we depend on another stranger's description when locating a new place. Then why depend on others for answers to these questions. It will be unacceptable if we agree with others' opinions on these hook, line and sinker without thinking through them thoroughly.
Read the Quran, Bible, Torah e.t.c and ask yourself some important questions:
Can Jesus be God?
After death what next?
Who is my Creator?
Why did He create me?

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by malvisguy212: 12:57am On Dec 14, 2014
Slitz:
How did u arrive at the conclusion that the past Prophets could have been living in lies when I stated clearly that they all preached the same message and that Prophet Muhammad (SAW) only brought the message from God which is a confirmation of what came before. None of the Prophets ever ordered that you worship other than the Creator, they all preached the message of submission to the Creator. and Islam is derived from the root word of Submission and peace!
muhammed was in the cave of hira when the truth descend on him, meaning a new chapter of truth has just began,a new religion. Why the truth did not descend on other prophet? Could this mean the main reason islam get their religion creed (I believe in allah and muhammed is his only messenger?) Can you differentiate the truth other prophet were living in and the truth that descend on muhammed? Their are a lot of evidence that show the quran was spiritually manipulated by satan.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Slitz(f): 1:01am On Dec 14, 2014
malvisguy212:
muhammed was in the cave of hira when the truth descend on him, meaning a new chapter of truth has just began,a new religion. Why the truth did not descend on other prophet? Could this mean the main reason islam get their religion creed (I believe in allah and muhammed is his only messenger?) Can you differentiate the truth other prophet were living in and the truth that descend on muhammed? Their are a lot of evidence that show the quran was spiritually manipulated by satan.
Guy , I have read many of your posts and I must confess you are mostly illogical in your arguments. whatever rocks your boat, follow it! "Thumma ka lla sa ya'alamun(Verily, you would come to know!)"

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by malvisguy212: 1:03am On Dec 14, 2014
denigma2:
The reality is that in order to answer the question, of which religion is the right one, we've got to think for ourselves based on available information.
We've got to think from the known to the unknown
If per adventure I find myself inside a moving train or a bus, which kind of questions would I ask myself? Why am I here? Where is this train going to? Where am I coming from? Who placed me here? What is expected of me?...
Everyone other thing would be insignificant until I find answers to these questions.
Unfortunately, we've all taken these life defining questions for granted. If we spend our entire lives seeking the reasons, essence and source of our existence, it would be worthwhile.
We end up depending on others for answers. Lets ask ourselves. Can we depend on another stranger's description when locating a new place. Then why depend on others for answers to these questions. It will be unacceptable if we agree with others' opinions on these hook, line and sinker without thinking through them thoroughly.
Read the Quran, Bible, Torah e.t.c and ask yourself some important questions:
Can Jesus be God?
After death what next?
Who is my Creator?
Why did He create me?
to know which religion lead to the true God, read here https://www.nairaland.com/1999485/all-religions-lead-god-one. You will be enlighten.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by phemmyflexxy(m): 1:03am On Dec 14, 2014
The true religion or let me say your religion is the right one, if its doctrines are CLEAR, LOGICAL, UNIVERSAL AND CONSISTENT. CHECK EVERY ARTICLE OF YOUR FAITH IF THEY MEET THIS CRITERIA.....SIMPLE..... EXCEPT IF YOUR GOD IS A CONFUSIONIST....
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by malvisguy212: 1:07am On Dec 14, 2014
Slitz:
Guy , I have read many of your posts and I must confess you are mostly illogical in your arguments. whatever rocks your boat, follow it! "Thumma ka lla sa ya'alamun(Verily, you would come to know!)"
thank you for your time. I dint just follow my faith with blind faith, I have seen jesus, on many occasion he saved me , sometimes he appeared as a lamb and sometimes as a shinning light.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Sheenor: 1:16am On Dec 14, 2014
radiance26:
This topic is baseless,instead of preaching one love across all religions and denominations,u'r asking which is best? What answer do u expect to get?

At times, its very important one digest a qųęşţįoŋ first before he/she comment.....The Op did not ask which one of the religion or denominations is the best, but ask how do/did you know this or that religion or denominations is the best and accepted by God.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Weah96: 1:21am On Dec 14, 2014
malvisguy212:
thank you for your time. I dint just follow my faith with blind faith, I have seen jesus, on many occasion he saved me , sometimes he appeared as a lamb and sometimes as a shinning light.

I have seen many lambs. I've also seen bright lights. How did you know that the lamb was Jesus? I'm asking because we may have seen the same lamb. Did the lamb talk to you in English or your native language?

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Sheenor: 1:24am On Dec 14, 2014
Dreambeat:
@ Op,Christianity is not a religion,its a way of life.

How will you say christianity is not a religion but rather a way of life without you backing it up...its a way of life to you and others, okay fine....how then...no vex oh, mie just want to know ni Ooº°°ºoo...because i grew up knowing it as a religion....so explain to me how it suddenly become a way of life recently.

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Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by zionzoe(m): 1:31am On Dec 14, 2014
Monoethism........it exsisted even b4 10AD........dat guy just hijacked itin 600AD
MzNelly:
There's only one God.
Only one true religion.
Re: How Do You Know Your Religion Or Denomination Is The Right One by Mathewa(m): 1:37am On Dec 14, 2014

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