patches689:


"da evil white man hate nigeria [because: reason] but luv da cameroon [because: reason]"

yeah... totally

I never expected you to understand. You don't understand what is at stake and what has been ongoing. Do some research for a change.

BTW, the British Army has just set up the 77 Brigade for this kind of warfare on social media etc.

andrewza:


No any sniper can hit a target at 1000m. It is not some mighty obstical.

Snipers do miss target. They are not 100% perfect human beings.

bidexiii:

I DONT THINK THESE IS A DRONE ...... A DRONE WITH ROTARY BLADES INFRONT

Blades at the back, compare missile head position.

MikeCZAR:
Even if that was true.

It would again show how weak the Nigerian state is.

No, the opposite. We in the know are just laughing and ignoring it, hence it is intensifying. They tried the same during the Niger Delta crisis and it didn't work either.

andrewza:



I never said it was not a good shot. Just not a world record sniper shot.

World record includes 1,250m kill.....1,000m is close, with a weaker rifle !

agaugust:


Snipers do miss target. They are not 100% perfect human beings.

Where did I say they hit all the time. I could hit a target at 1km. But not has often has a sniper.

patches689:


did you actually watch the video?

Yes, even surprised the Type 056 did not fire any missile in the video....all crappy video evidence. Am gonna take ya down later today

agaugust:


World record includes 1,250m kill.....1,000m is close, with a weaker rifle !

It not a world record. Just a shot that is listed.

rka1:


No, the opposite. We in the know are just laughing and ignoring it, hence it is intensifying. They tried the same during the Niger Delta crisis and it didn't work either.

It shows Nigeria is weak.

Wars aren't won through kinetic action only.

If Cameroon decided to capture more of your land, they'd supported by everyone.

agaugust:


World record includes 1,250m kill.....1,000m is close, with a weaker rifle !

what 1KM?

Lying to us again?

patches689:


15 years between Veitnam and Iraq 1
21 years between Angolan war and now

Wow - such a big difference.

UNITA numbers peaked at 65,000 in 1990 (2 years after we left) and we spread over a vast area. We engaged in the South where UNITA presence was weakest and we did all the conventional fighting, not to mention that FNLA effectively ceased to exist by 1976 and operated on the opposite side of the country. MPLA + Cuba + Russia ammounted to 200 000 men.

We consistently defeated them with only 4000 men - this is confirmed by you.

Only 32 Battalion was composed of foreigners - Recce's were a South African unit.

O, so now you admit combat experience is not everything? Sophisticated weapons and training are what makes a military powerful?? Congratulations on another magnificent contradiction!!

And again, show us a major war America has fought alone in the last 100 years.

America can fight alone, sit down 1,000 km away and use cruise missiles to wipe out an army like SANDF.

Can South Africa do that?

USA goes to war to help where other existing armies were failing like Korea, Vietnam. USA goes to war with UN mandate, reason they don't fight alone. No country ever dares to challenge USA alone.

SANDF fought alone once and lost to Seleka teenagers in 13 hours
.

MikeCZAR:
It shows Nigeria is weak.

Wars aren't won through kinetic action only.

If Cameroon decided to capture more of your land, they'd supported by everyone.

No, Nigeria won't crumble and give in. Let Cameroon try it and they will see for themselves what will happen. There will be no consideration for collateral damage then.

rka1:


No, Nigeria won't crumble and give in. Let Cameroon try it and they will see for themselves what will happen. There will be no consideration for collateral damage then.

Your army units simply melt quickly under pressure.

If you faced an enemy with heavy weapons within 2 weeks you'd be defending Abuja, while crying for help.

agaugust:


America can fight alone, sit down 1,000 km away and use cruise missiles to wipe out an army like SANDF.

Can South Africa do that?

USA goes to war to help where other existing armies were failing like Korea, Vietnam. USA goes to war with UN mandate, reason they don't fight alone. No country ever dares to challenge USA alone.

SANDF fought alone once and lost to Seleka teenagers in 13 hours
.

13 hours!!!

Seleka failing to break SA lines defended by few soldiers.

patches689:


The project started in 2007

The first production begins later this year - first vehicles roll off the line at the beginning of next year

So it will have taken 9 years to design, upgrade and build the best IFV in Africa. (you arent very good at math are you??)

Badger project started in 1997....actually 18 years ago....

"May 26/13: Investigation? South Africa’s Times Live, “Military deal probe ‘waste of time'”:

“The public protector is believed to be investigating the 16-year delay in the project. Hoefyster was launched in 1997 locally and opened to international tenders in 2003. The vehicles are to arrive from next year, the last in 2023.”

The contract was issued in 2007. Defence Secretary Sam Gulube responds that he’s worried about the budget being insufficient."

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Your maths is too poor for South Koreans to employ you in Hyundai tech
.

andrewza:


Proof the badger is garbage.

We have 5 pre producstion models.

By 2020 we should have enough for 2 battalions.

You too prove the BTR-4 is not very modern as you claim.

SANDF has NO single Badger in service, you have DENEL test lab models.

By 2020 you will have nothing, no money, I just posted that above, cash problem delayed Badger for 18 years
.

agaugust:


Badger project started in 1997....actually 18 years ago....

"May 26/13: Investigation? South Africa’s Times Live, “Military deal probe ‘waste of time'”:

“The public protector is believed to be investigating the 16-year delay in the project. Hoefyster was launched in 1997 locally and opened to international tenders in 2003. The vehicles are to arrive from next year, the last in 2023.”

The contract was issued in 2007. Defence Secretary Sam Gulube responds that he’s worried about the budget being insufficient."

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Your maths is too poor for South Koreans to employ you in Hyundai tech
.

The project and vechile are 2 difrent Things.

patches689:


It enters service in large numbers next year

It is allready in service right now.

Show me factory proof that large numbers of Bagder is being made as we speak.

Also show me one single Badger with SANDF troops, NOT DENEL marketing show for traded fair display
.

agaugust:


Badger project started in 1997....actually 18 years ago....

"May 26/13: Investigation? South Africa’s Times Live, “Military deal probe ‘waste of time'”:

“The public protector is believed to be investigating the 16-year delay in the project. Hoefyster was launched in 1997 locally and opened to international tenders in 2003. The vehicles are to arrive from next year, the last in 2023.”

The contract was issued in 2007. Defence Secretary Sam Gulube responds that he’s worried about the budget being insufficient."

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/denel-patria-building-south-africas-next-ifv-03317/

Your maths is too poor for South Koreans to employ you in Hyundai tech
.

The project.

Not development of the system.

Many vehicles were offered.

Like the GBADS project it was started many years ago, but the Umkhonto IR ER missile is still developed.

patches689:


Thing about precision weapons is that they are percise

How many bombs has NATO and the Arab states dropped on ISIS? How many civilians have they killed?

Clown

ISIS is in open desert lands, Boko Haram is inside Gwoza town with civilians.

Clown.
.

agaugust:


Show me factory proof that large numbers of Bagder is being made as we speak.

Also show me one single Badger with SANDF troops, NOT DENEL marketing show for traded fair display
.

the vehicles are developed for the army, with army funding.

They belong to the army.

Part of SA arsenal.

agaugust:


ISIS is in open desert lands, Boko Haram is inside Gwoza town with civilians.

Clown.
.

M23 was inside towns.

MikeCZAR:
Your army units simply melt quickly under pressure.

If you faced an enemy with heavy weapons within 2 weeks you'd be defending Abuja, while crying for help.

So you think. How comp BH were pushed from Abuja all the way to the NE and they can't even move any further? A full scale war would entail heavy arsenal being brought out which can't be used in this kind of warfare, not to talk of the new equipment coming in in their hundreds. Like I said, there will be no concerns then for collateral damage.

We all know some of the reasons why some units have been overwhelmed, i.e. moles, locals betraying info, traitors etc. Good thing is, they are being weeded out.

Just watch in the coming week or 2 what will happen.

agaugust:


You too prove the BTR-4 is not very modern as you claim.

SANDF has NO single Badger in service, you have DENEL test lab models.

By 2020 you will have nothing, no money, I just posted that above, cash problem delayed Badger for 18 years
.

It is a BTR with a western lay out. That is it.

They Have R licence plates. That means those denel models belong to the SANDF.

Cash problems delayed every major weapon system ever. No one rushes out build a new AFV with out insureing it is fully tested and ready.

patches689:


Yes it can.

This is why we chose a modular vehicle.

Bagder is NOT amphibious....ask your SANDF navy man @andrewza, it will sink to bottom of lake Chad, watching BTR-4 swim across
.

patches689:


No, tanks dont get armor replaced

How do army engineers repair damaged tank armour ? My voodoo magic?
.

andrewza:


You got arround 6 to 7. Since the bulk went to the Ukrainian national guard.
About 40.

Citation needed
.

rka1:


So you think. How comp BH were pushed from Abuja all the way to the NE and they can't even move any further? A full scale war would entail heavy arsenal being brought out which can't be used in this kind of warfare, not to talk of the new equipment coming in in their hundreds. Like I said, there will be no concerns then for collateral damage.

We all know some of the reasons why some units have been overwhelmed, i.e. moles, locals betraying info, traitors etc. Good thing is, they are being weeded out.

Just watch in the coming week or 2 what will happen.

You've brought your entire arsenal against BH, but during open engagements your army units crumble easily.

Even if your army was to launch an operation to capture a certain town, BH will pull back and capture another one like after. the capture of Kundunga.

Your military has heavy feet.

agaugust:


How do army engineers repair damaged tank armour ? My voodoo magic?
.

they don't.

agaugust:


Bagder is NOT amphibious....ask your SANDF navy man @andrewza, it will sink to bottom of lake Chad, watching BTR-4 swim across
.

Are your logiscal vehicles amphibious to, no they not. Have fun running out of fuel, food and ammo.

MikeCZAR:
you're a complete foo..l.

And no tanks don't.

How did Oliphant tank transform from RHA to Composite armour?

Tanks armour gets upgraded from RHA to ERA and composite....fool
.

agaugust:


How did Oliphant tank transform from RHA to Composite armour?

Tanks armour gets upgraded from RHA to ERA and composite....fool
.

Your point?

Do you know what's rust?