jerrymej:
I don't believe in superstition!
I only believed that what ever happens in this life has been set exact right from day one.

think again bro the spiritual control the physical 100% efficiency
my 10000 cowries contribution

josnig1980:
sir juju is real. i can cast a spell too thanks

DAT great can you cast a spell on me to know what is going on in Jonas mind or to know what is happening to barrak Obama administration
or the simplest spell is this give me ten sure games for 1960bet am don't know how to play it but will start today
oya spell time and also use your spell to tell me the name of my great grand grand father mother because I want to fill my form4

Yes...don't underate the powers of the spiritual world...at the same time don't overestimate it.

KoloOyinbo:
Why is it only in the developing world where the standard of education and more importantly the provision of education for all is less than the developed world that such stupid belief in superstition like juju, magic and charms is so prevalent. Yes there is still a belief in this rubbish in the rest of the world but only among the lesser educated and mentally defective.

Of course such rubbish is nonsense! Unless the 'victim' is stupid enough to believe in it. That is why a superstitious fool will be affected by a 'curse' while the educated laugh it off! I have asked many of the idiots who post here to curse me but of course as an Oyinbo they are quite powerless against me.

If folks think I am being a little harsh on believers I do realise it is not fully their fault as they mostly have lacked the education to think properly and also are easily influenced by the less developed aspects of their culture. So I try not to be too 'down' on them (they have enough problems anyway) but really, respect must be earned. Would you give a job as an engineer, teacher, doctor or indeed any responsible position to anyone who believed in MAGIC??

so you don't believe in magic am laughing at you in French bro are you a xtian,Muslim or traditionalist all religion I repeat all religion have an element or reference to magic period

Tymax:

I still don't know why GT never blow. That guy get voice die.

FYI HE FOLLOWED HIS MUM ADVISE TO GO TO SCHOOL AND QUITE MUSIC FOR THE TIME BEEN
WRONG ADVICE WITH DUE RESPECT TO HER

KoloOyinbo:


Well I don't want to turn this into a debate on the difference between superstition (which I do NOT believe in) and Religion (I DO believe in God). Lets simply say that all this curse rubbish is nonsense for the uneducated and weak minded. It does NOT work on unbelievers, it does not work under testable laboratory conditions (like things that are true do) in fact it does NOT work at all!

Some people do their children a disservice by encouraging a belief in something that only belongs among primitive savages. How would or even could we trust someone so gullible that believes in this nonsense with any real responsibility?

.Tarot, Qabalah, Alchemy, Astrology are they from Africa bro magic exit since 1113bc

obiak4:

so you don't believe in magic am laughing at you in French bro are you a xtian,Muslim or traditionalist all religion I repeat all religion have an element or reference to magic period

I mentioned in several of my posts that there is a difference in a belief in superstition and a belief in religion.

Now anyone stupid or primitive enough to believe in MAGIC would not be intelligent enough to comprehend the difference.

Lets just face it, MAGIC does not work simply because it does not exist.

obiak4:

.Tarot, Qabalah, Alchemy, Astrology are they from Africa bro magic exit since 1113bc

All these nonsense things do not work and are not real.

Alchemy (at least as we understand it historically) was from Medieval Europe. Qabalah from middle eastern Hebrew. Have not though much about the geographical origin of astrology but the tarot is quite laughable so not even worth knowing about.

I'm not sure about the point here. I did refer earlier to stupid superstitions of non African origin as well as those of African origin. My own point is that the developed world (despite a MINORITY of uneducated and mental defectives) does not believe in these ideas any more. Africa should rely more on its educated citizens and less on the Babalwo and witch doctor. One will lead Africa forward to take its rightful place in the world while the other will try to drag it backwards to primitive ignorance and savagery (but will thankfully FAIL).

obiak4:

think again bro the spiritual control the physical 100% efficiency
my 10000 cowries contribution

What ever occurrence in life I believe it's God that signed it. No life can be taken unaware before God! He knows better, human cause might only reflect on you if you aren't faithful to God. And if it happened then believe it that it has been sign from day one even before you existence.

obiak4:
FYI HE FOLLOWED HIS MUM ADVISE TO GO TO SCHOOL AND QUITE MUSIC FOR THE TIME BEEN
WRONG ADVICE WITH DUE RESPECT TO HER

I hope he changes his idihot name when he's back. But he will be surprised that plenty wannabes have taken his spot. Obviously they are following him and his mother so witchcraft his real

Bro, go despoil Ijebu, Ondo or Ibadan girl and run away.

Just to have a first hand experience.

I don't know myself if I believe this or not.

While one part is telling me there's nothing like witchcraft and that it's all a twisted myth of ridiculous naive claims, another part is saying otherwise.

Personally, I don't have any experience with it and I don't know of people who conduct or are victims of it. But I've heard of It. A lot and a lot.

MymothersKeeper:

I hope he changes his idihot name when he's back. But he will be surprised that plenty wannabes have taken his spot. Obviously they are following him and his mother so witchcraft his real

OK oooo boom boom boom are you a practical brom sister?
just asking

KoloOyinbo:


All these nonsense things do not work and are not real.

Alchemy (at least as we understand it historically) was from Medieval Europe. Qabalah from middle eastern Hebrew. Have not though much about the geographical origin of astrology but the tarot is quite laughable so not even worth knowing about.

I'm not sure about the point here. I did refer earlier to stupid superstitions of non African origin as well as those of African origin. My own point is that the developed world (despite a MINORITY of uneducated and mental defectives) does not believe in these ideas any more. Africa should rely more on its educated citizens and less on the Babalwo and witch doctor. One will lead Africa forward to take its rightful place in the world while the other will try to drag it backwards to primitive ignorance and savagery (but will thankfully FAIL).

guess I have to throw sublime insult at you no hard feelings sha smh so because you don't believe in it therefore it does not exit? EMPEROR NEO I HAIL THEE
here in my kitchen in sambisa forest we call people like you
EDUCATED ILLITERATE
my 10000 cowries advice if you don't have information about something listen or read and learn or better still make research and you can go a little further by consulting people that are more know-led-able.

zboyd:
Do you think that some people can curse or bewitch others?

Do you believe bewitching or curses only have power over those who believe that it can affect them?

Or...do you think such things aren't real and nothing more than superstitious fears?

....Op, do you think that some people can bless others?
Or.....do you think such things aren't real and nothing more than superstitious beliefs?

An experience will convience you

obiak4:

guess I have to throw sublime insult at you no hard feelings sha smh so because you don't believe in it therefore it does not exit? EMPEROR NEO I HAIL THEE
here in my kitchen in sambisa forest we call people like you
EDUCATED ILLITERATE
my 10000 cowries advice if you don't have information about something listen or read and learn or better still make research and you can go a little further by consulting people that are more know-led-able.

I don't think some MAGIC believing forest dweller is in any position to address me on Knowledge, Education, Literacy or indeed Research. Although a international consultant now, this is actually my second career. For the first 20 years I was a physicist so I understand research.

Now you are welcome to confine your 'research' to the magics and juju in your sambisa forest.

I am aware that cowries were one of the first West African currencies so it is quite ironic that you speak of them to illustrate how you are still living in the darkness and ignorance of the middle ages or earlier!

Go-tell-it-on-the-mountain YES!

DoTheNeedful:
I dont believe...many of us (Africans) are :
1. Lazy and consequently blame curse or juju for our predicaments . What many of us consider as hard-work is not a proper definition of hard-work.
2. Excuse givers. We dont take responsiblity. There is no curse or jazz that stand in the way of a man of purpose. To borrow the words of Shakespeare: "The fault is not in our stars but in ourselves....".

In summary,people should take responsibility, stop laying about and forget about curses. We are a people that prefer praying in religious settings when we should be adding values to our lives

Wish it was that simple and straightforward. When the denizens of the Netherworld are after you, no amount of positive thinking, dis-belief, hardwork, motivation or prejudice can set you free. In three words; You Are F@#ked!

Only an alternate power MAY set you free.

[quote author=oloworulz post=30850361]Wot u dnt bliv in cant kill u. Am talking 4rm experience[/quote

That's one of the most inane and infantile statement I've heard this year! Maybe what came after you (nd I doubt if any did) was a "fore-runner". A John the Baptist to the Christ that was to come. But, fortunately for you it was aborted for a plethora of circumstancial reasons, BUT, know this; it was never because of your lack of belief.

Does your lack of belief in the dangers of stepping into an inferno prevent you getting "barbecued" by the flames OR does your lack of belief in the venom of the Black Mamba save you from dying in minutes after being bitten by it? Newsflash: The power of the Occult is more real than the raging fire of an active volcano and more deadly than the bite of a million vipers.

Disregard this at your own peril.

4C2215131:

Wish it was that simple and straightforward. When the denizens of the Netherworld are after you, no amount of positive thinking, dis-belief, hardwork, motivation or prejudice can set you free. In three words; You Are F@#ked!
Only an alternate power MAY set you free.

Isn't it funny these so called denizens only go after the gullible, uneducated primitives? They never seem to get educated people. Hummm. Might that tell us something?

By the way I am a seventh son of a seventh son and will put the evil eye on anyone daring to contradict me! (LOL )

zboyd:
Do you think that some people can curse or bewitch others?

Do you believe bewitching or curses only have power over those who believe that it can affect them?

Or...do you think such things aren't real and nothing more than superstitious fears?

. Wahs na d difference between you and an oyinbo

quart:
The bewitchment is simply the act of casting supposed spell on another person. My response to your question is in the affirmative. But I tell you there is a power greater than demonic powers. I like to let you know that evil persons can carve an image to represent someone; also curse the image. Demons are invoked to perfect these evil pronouncement.

The only way out is in Jesus Christ ( The Word of God).

1. Give to life to Christ absolutely.
2. Attend church services. Involve yourself in Church activities.
3. Be ready to sanctify yourself with the word of God.(read it , Chew it, meditate it, sleep it, SAY it )
4. Do not get discouraged.(Satan's wicked weapon, it can be potent if you allow it)
5. Be prayerFULLLL (In the toilet, room, while eating, sleeping, dancing etc). Isolate yourself at certain times to prayer. Jesus did same
5. Know that there is time for everything. God can not allow evil to continue forever for his children.
6. You must be ready to chnage your attitude to conform with God's word. No anger, envy, sexual perversion, etc

Thess verses, Rev. 20 vs 10 and 2 Peter 2 vs 4 , are very potent. Say it loudly after praises and worshiping God during your midnight prayers (12am -2am).

Deliverance is very essential.

Word!

KoloOyinbo:
Why is it only in the developing world where the standard of education and more importantly the provision of education for all is less than the developed world that such stupid belief in superstition like juju, magic and charms is so prevalent. Yes there is still a belief in this rubbish in the rest of the world but only among the lesser educated and mentally defective.

Of course such rubbish is nonsense! Unless the 'victim' is stupid enough to believe in it. That is why a superstitious fool will be affected by a 'curse' while the educated laugh it off! I have asked many of the idiots who post here to curse me but of course as an Oyinbo they are quite powerless against me.

If folks think I am being a little harsh on believers I do realise it is not fully their fault as they mostly have lacked the education to think properly and also are easily influenced by the less developed aspects of their culture. So I try not to be too 'down' on them (they have enough problems anyway) but really, respect must be earned. Would you give a job as an engineer, teacher, doctor or indeed any responsible position to anyone who believed in MAGIC??

Newsflash: Your so called Oyinbo are far more superstitous than you think. Where do you think all the occult lodges originated from? Edo State? Yeah...didn't think so.

4C2215131:


Newsflash: Your so called Oyinbo are far more superstitous than you think. Where do you think all the occult lodges originated from? Edo State? Yeah...didn't think so.

My 'so called' oyinbo? I AM an oyinbo! And all cultures and ethnic groups have their weak minded and superstitious fools. There are just a lot less of them in the developing world because of better education and the fact that some cultures have advanced further than others in throwing out this rubbish nonsense or leaving it to the more pitiful elements in their society.

Not sure which occult lodges you are referring to but don't see the relevance as they are all nonsense anyway.

As for 'didn't think so', you are right - you didn't think!

KoloOyinbo:


My 'so called' oyinbo? I AM an oyinbo! And all cultures and ethnic groups have their weak minded and superstitious fools. There are just a lot less of them in the developing world because of better education and the fact that some cultures have advanced further than others in throwing out this rubbish nonsense or leaving it to the more pitiful elements in their society.

Not sure which occult lodges you are referring to but don't see the relevance as they are all nonsense anyway.

As for 'didn't think so', you are right - you didn't think!

I'll ignore your veiled insult to my reasoning faculty but will remind you of one thing; most of the greatest minds that walked our earth and still do are occultist of one form or another. Do a research like someone suggested and you'd be the better for it. It takes one to know one.

4C2215131:


I'll ignore your veiled insult to my reasoning faculty but will remind you of one thing; most of the greatest minds that walked our earth and still do are occultist of one form or another. Do a research like someone suggested and you'd be the better for it. It takes one to know one.

The great minds are responsible for our REJECTION of such nonsense today. Please feel free to remain in ignorance and superstition while the rest of the world progresses without you. OR you could perhaps get a proper education and try to make something of yourself.

Well evil curse do exist,,,,
But one funny scenario of it all is those who place curse on other human being don't live a profitable life!!!(Pls quote me wrong if I err)

And that is why the supreme power GOD advices us to leave vengeance to him and let the law of repercussion take effect.
So when ever someone do u wrong forgive him/her,,but if u take d law into ur hands by "cursing" then u also trap urself into everlasting bondage too. As long as the person u cursed keep suffering,,u too suffers along
Dis is what d juju priest of Voodoo priest will never tell someone when they come seek evil power for revenge..

Life is a mystery!!!!

steppin:
Yes, it's possible. It's even in the Bible.

AND I QUOTE; ''DEUTETONOMY18VAS 10 AND NUMS 23 VAS 23.'' READ AND BE WISE.

[quote author=4C2215131 post=30865767][/quote]my brother. U don't have faith. Stop comparing spiritual tins with physical tins

4C2215131:


Wish it was that simple and straightforward. When the denizens of the Netherworld are after you, no amount of positive thinking, dis-belief, hardwork, motivation or prejudice can set you free. In three words; You Are F@#ked!

Only an alternate power MAY set you free.

Okay. That is your opinion and I understand you being an African and the way we were brought up.
Are those curses limited to Africa alone? Most of the time,we suffer from the mentality that somebody is after us than any curse.

Try to be hard-working.
Try to take responsibilities
Realize that in this life good and bad happens due to stochastic reasons.
Forget that somebody is after you
AND
You will realize that life can be beautiful and those people that you think are "after you" are busy trying to make ends meet too