barcanista:
First, the PIB is a Parliamentary bill and not a Presidential fiat. 2/3rd members of Parliament need to pass it and then transmit it to the President for him to sign it into law. Musa Yaradua sent the bill to NASS in 2007(or 2008), the NASS members have been acting funny and tribalising issues. The Minister of Petroleum has on several occasions stated the FG's readiness to implement the bill/law, but till date it hasn't been passed. I throw one question at you... What has APC legislators done with respect to the bill? What should the President do when it hasn't got to his desk? What is his own sin here?

Btw check my first reply

He promised to get the PIB passed, he knew it required 2/3 before made that promise. He has started with the confab too, does he not need the Senate for that?

Clerverly:


Stale lines! How does he plan to get National Confab report implemented without recourse to the same NASS, he blames for his inability to get the PIB working?

So why are you trying to blame the President for the failure of NASS with respect to PIB? Is he a legislator? You can only blame him when he refused to sign it into law.

As for the Confab Report, that isn't a problem because NASS was part of the Confab. A formal passage of it by the NASS or a Referrendum by the people of Nigeria is enough to get the Report implemented. This is no rocket science

Clerverly:


Stale lines! How does he plan to get National Confab report implemented without recourse to the same NASS, he blames for his inability to get the PIB working?

God bless you, help me ask o

Bmark:
lesson is that you dont campaign with such projects such as national conference or pib , you campaign base on visible performance,barca you need to still give us your intelligent views of the past i expect you to be above the tanoids on nl these days

God bless you brother, how do we trust a man who campaigns on something "beyond his capacity " lets say he made a judgement error in 2011, doing these same thing again is pure deceit.

Obiagelli:


How will he implement the confab report if couldn't get the PIB passed, how exactly?

The FOI bill had been passed for months by the national assembly and was waiting for presidential approval (I stand to be corrected)

Please don't bring fashola to this debate, how many criminals have the FOI put into jail. Let's stay on point

The FOI was passed on May 28. It was transmitted to the President on May 29, the President signed it May 30 all 2011. I don't know where you get your "months".

As for the Fashola and FOI, Fash is a governor and is answerable to the people of Lagos. We must scruitinize all of them. You can't expect selective scrutiny.

As for PIB what the President meant was he will sign it just like he did foi if it get to his table.

As for the Confab

barcanista:
So why are you trying to blame the President for the failure of NASS with respect to PIB? Is he a legislator? You can only blame him when he refused to sign it into law.
As for the Confab Report, that isn't a problem because NASS was part of the Confab. A formal passage of it by the NASS or a Referrendum by the people of Nigeria is enough to get the Report implemented. This is no rocket science

Obiagelli:

God bless you, help me ask o

Ngwa obiagelli, since the PIB bill could not be endorsed by 2/3 of the house, what do you suggest Jonathan should do?

Or what other means will you proffer if buhari were to be in Jonathan's shoe?

Obiagelli:

He promised to get the PIB passed, he knew it required 2/3 before made that promise. He has started with the confab too, does he not need the Senate for that?

When GMB said he will implement true federalism, do yu think he will do that via executive order? Sometimes I wonder you people basis of criticism

Dakuku Peterside and Tambuwal are main road block to the PIB. When both men decide to bring the bill to the floor, the full house will pass it.

barcanista:
The FOI was passed on May 28. It was transmitted to the President on May 29, the President signed it May 30 all 2011. I don't know where you get your "months".

As for the Fashola and FOI, Fash is a governor and is answerable to the people of Lagos. We must scruitinize all of them. You can't expect selective scrutiny.

As for PIB what the President meant was he will sign it just like he did foi if it get to his table.

As for the Confab

I see you like to choose what to respond too, in my post, i said i stand to be corrected,

If you still want to do the fashola thing, you should tell us how many people the FOI has led to jail in the last 4yrs.

Please don't tell us what the president meant, he said the bill will be passed. Same lie he is selling to us with the confab.

Will he give us the National Assembly excuse in 2019? As if he didn't know they exist

customized13:
Ngwa obiagelli, since the PIB bill could not be endorsed by 2/3 of the house, what do you suggest Jonathan should do?

Or what other means will you proffer if buhari were to be in Jonathan's shoe?

My brother, these APC people tire me sef o

Obiagelli:

God bless you brother, how do we trust a man who campaigns on something "beyond his capacity " lets say he made a judgement error in 2011, doing these same thing again is pure deceit.

you apc guys need to blow this thing up with much publicity and falana's reaction,,,it exposed the fraud of the conference yoruba thieves

barcanista:
So why are you trying to blame the President for the failure of NASS with respect to PIB? Is he a legislator? You can only blame him when he refused to sign it into law.

As for the Confab Report, that isn't a problem because NASS was part of the Confab. A formal passage of it by the NASS or a Referrendum by the people of Nigeria is enough to get the Report implemented. This is no rocket science

Stop twisting words here! There is no two ways of getting the Confab report working without the NASS! If he cannot get it right with PIB, he can NEVER get it right with the Confab also.

So what Obiagelli is saying in essence is, for jonathan to stop fooling people with promises he knows deep inside, he has no will or power to fulfill!!!

customized13:
Ngwa obiagelli, since the PIB bill could not be endorsed by 2/3 of the house, what do you suggest Jonathan should do?

Or what other means will you proffer if buhari were to be in Jonathan's shoe?

So how will he get the confab report he is promising today done?

barcanista:
My brother, these APC people tire me sef o

How will the president implement the confab report?

barcanista:
My brother, these APC people tire me sef o

Maybe she thinks Jonathan is also the senate president.

Obiagelli:

I will rather see and feel transformation than believe lies

Barcanista saw it n left, but your blinded by hatred and subscribing to fake change

barcanista:
When GMB said he will implement true federalism, do yu think he will do that via executive order? Sometimes I wonder you people basis of criticism

Now you want to shift the goal post, for Gmb, its left to be seen. Gej has proven he can't get the National Assembly to jack other than corrupt activities. He knows how to get this same assembly to pass his poor budget.

Obamacare is active , that's what leaders do, they don't whine

barcanista:
When GMB said he will implement true federalism, do yu think he will do that via executive order? Sometimes I wonder you people basis of criticism

That is different between the two leaders(GMB and GEJ)! Just like Obama who always displays political sagacity and sincerity in getting some of his policies scale through the congress while jonathan always depend on bribe and coercion which has seen him collide with the NASS on many fronts!

Moral Lesson: so it is with PIB, so it will be with the Confab report!

atlwireles:
Dakuku Peterside and Tambuwal are main road block to the PIB. When both men decide to bring the bill to the floor, the full house will pass it.

SMH.

Obiagelli:


I see you like to choose what to respond too, in my post, i said i stand to be corrected,

If you still want to do the fashola thing, you should tell us how many people the FOI has led to jail in the last 4yrs.

Please don't tell us what the president meant, he said the bill will be passed. Same lie he is selling to us with the confab.

Will he give us the National Assembly excuse in 2019? As if he didn't know they exist

A President that signed FOI into law is not praised by you. A Governor that vowed not to release documents and invoices to residents and taxpayers(Fashola) you praise him. You don't know that it will be almost impossible to perpetrate wanton stealing at the Federal level without being nabbed? Thanks to the FOI. You and I can petition the President or any officer to demand certain explanation, thanks to the foi. The money allocated to the President's Office can be knwn even without the President telling us, thanks to the FOI. You can know what consultants earn and contractors agreement with the FG, thanks to the FOI.

What do we have at Lagos State level? We only get to hear what we are told and are forced to "live with it". Abeg no go there.

Bmark:
you apc guys need to blow this thing up with much publicity and falana's reaction,,,it exposed the fraud of the conference yoruba thieves

Gbam.

Obiagelli:


So how will he get the confab report he is promising today done?

you are yet to answer my question.

What other means do you (an APCist) suugest will get the PIB bill passed, since 2/3 of the house didn't endorse?

The answer to your question is simply to vote PDP at every level, if PDP can get the majority in the upper and lower house, then the confab report will be treated.

Answer my question please.

Obiagelli:

SMH.

Stop SMH you have none.

Clerverly:


Stop twisting words here! There is no two ways of getting the Confab report working without the NASS! If he cannot get it right with PIB, he can NEVER get it right with the Confab also.

So what Obiagelli is saying in essence is, for jonathan to stop fooling people with promises he knows deep inside, he has no will or power to fulfill!!!

Plain and simple.

dgr8truth:


Na you open thread, na you be FTC! Is that not greed. This is exactly what APC will do if they won the presidency, loot our common wealth out of greed.

It's becoming obvious, as well as sadden that some anti-GEJs does not know that we have three arms of govt, with distinct functions, and is so painful they display this narrow mindedness and lack of the known in the open. Is it GEJ that will pass PIB into law? Or was the PIB passed and he refused to sign it into law?

Is not surprising, if the apc projected presidential candidate lacks the basic understanding of democracy, and a certificate a testing to his knowledge, then the followers must be...

My vote is for the person that appreciates democracy and respects it binding laws.

#GEJtill2019.

Fantastically written!


God Bless you

barcanista:
A President that signed FOI into law is not praised by you. A Governor that vowed not to release documents and invoices to residents and taxpayers(Fashola) you praise him. You don't know that it will be almost impossible to perpetrate wanton stealing at the Federal level without being nabbed? Thanks to the FOI. You and I can petition the President or any officer to demand certain explanation, thanks to the foi. The money allocated to the President's Office can be knwn even without the President telling us, thanks to the FOI. You can know what consultants earn and contractors agreement with the FG, thanks to the FOI.

What do we have at Lagos State level? We only get to hear what we are told and are forced to "live with it". Abeg no go there.

Can we move away from this derail tactics?

Clerverly:


Stop twisting words here! There is no two ways of getting the Confab report working without the NASS! If he cannot get it right with PIB, he can NEVER get it right with the Confab also.

So what Obiagelli is saying in essence is, for jonathan to stop fooling people with promises he knows deep inside, he has no will or power to fulfill!!!

Obiagelli has no point. The role of the President is to sign bills into law. He doesn't participate in bills reading neither does he have powers to vote for or against a bill. The PIB is an executive bill, tell your people to pass it and see whether or not Mr President will sign it like he did FOI.

As for the Confab, the NASS won't go through their loooong process, because there will be no need for that since everyone was involved. The President only need to get their formal endorsement and implement it...

Or there be a referandum... He can exploit any option!

ochejoseph:


Fantastically written!


God Bless you

Joe, how does jonathan plans to implement the confab report??

customized13:
you are yet to answer my question.

What other means do you (an APCist) suugest will get the PIB bill passed, since 2/3 of the house didn't endorse?

The answer to your question is simply to vote PDP at every level, if PDP can get the majority in the upper and lower house, then the confab report will be treated.

Answer my question please.

Is this a joke? Even though i hate comparison, is the UK or US assembly made up of one political party?

ochejoseph:


Fantastically written!


God Bless you

I thought you will explain this confab puzzle to us

Obiagelli:


Is this a joke? Even though i hate comparison, is the UK or US assembly made up of one political party?

I never said the house will be made up of one political party, but PDP should have the majority.

Now answer my question, or are you clueless?