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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:35pm On Feb 27, 2015
OLADD:


Every aspirant to any political office always tie their campaign to one selling point or the other and that's the norm the world over. Is it not ironic that Buhari is still going about using corruption as his campaign gimmick having hinged the reason for his coup in 1983 on same corruption?
And buhari has remained president since then. Abeg make better contribution
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:36pm On Feb 27, 2015
Obiagelli:
Barcanista

Sen. Udoma
Udo Udoma heads the task force as Chairman. Other
members of the eight-man body are Sen. Tunde Ogbeha,
Sen. Emmanuel Agboti, Sen. M. T. Liman, Hon. Chibudom
Nwuche, Hon. Abdullahi Gumel, Hon. Habeeb Fashinro; and
Comrade Peter Esele, President, Trade Union Congress.

www.nnpcgroup.com/PublicRelations/NNPCinthenews/tabid/92/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/342/FG-inaugurates-Special-Task-Force-on-PIB.aspx


This is as far back as January 2012, so don't tell us the Senate had no inputs
What is your point?
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:37pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
My brother, me sef tire o. Instead of them to tell their party men in the house to expedite action on the bill, they are blaming someone that had no vote in parliamentary decision. Nothing we no go see for naija. Next them go blame PEJ for the failure of Fashola to implement FOI

Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:39pm On Feb 27, 2015
PhockPhockMan:
I thought you're wise and knowledgeable, now I know I'm wrong. Do you know the president’s effort in making sure the bill is passed, yet the enemies of progress in the house of Representatives led by tambuwal stalled it.
That was one of the reasons he insisted on Mulikat Akande as Speaker in order to have smooth sail.
In this case you're telling me that Buhari's plan to fight corruption is an effort in futility since he knows that he can't do it without judicial.
During Jonathan rally in lagos, he asked the Yoruba to vote PDP lawmakers for smooth sailing of the bill.
So, he's not deceiving anybody.

Please please please, i am all about results here, i am not sympathetic to what gej has tried to do, i want results. I judge a man by results expecially when he is making more promise promises.

Gej know there is a Senate house before he started making empty promises. BUHARI's case is left to be seen if he has done his home work.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Firefire(m): 7:39pm On Feb 27, 2015
Jonathan where is the PIB ?
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by PhockPhockMan: 7:42pm On Feb 27, 2015
Clerverly:
I have said it, and I will continue to say it...MY MOTHER is a crook!
wetin she do you?
gringringrin
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by deeptechcool(m): 7:42pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
My brother, me sef tire o. Instead of them to tell their party men in the house to expedite action on the bill, they are blaming someone that had no vote in parliamentary decision. Nothing we no go see for naija. Next them go blame PEJ for the failure of Fashola to implement FOI

Nigerians are wiser now. How c you believe someone who cannot lobby the house to get the PIB passed? His promises are as empty as vegetations in the sahara desert.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Ngwakwe: 7:45pm On Feb 27, 2015
deeptechcool:




The question is, why is GEJ campaigning with something beyond his absolute control? Is GEJ now 'Mr Speaker' you put up there?

He is correct to use it as a campaign promise for the fact that both bills are executive bills and he is not only sponsoring the bill but also lobbying to get them passed.

The question is, between Jonathan and Buhari, in whose interest is it to get the bill passed?

National Confab is the brainchild of President Jonathan hence the Yoruba Statesmen can believe him than Buhari who never see it as a major talking point.

Cc Obiagelli
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:47pm On Feb 27, 2015
customized13:
bros, you don see am na?

APC style, always playing the blame game without proffering solutions.
I believe i answered your question with the US/UK example.
Obamacare for instance

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by VolvoS60(m): 7:48pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
A President that signed FOI into law is not praised by you. A Governor that vowed not to release documents and invoices to residents and taxpayers(Fashola) you praise him. You don't know that it will be almost impossible to perpetrate wanton stealing at the Federal level without being nabbed? Thanks to the FOI. You and I can petition the President or any officer to demand certain explanation, thanks to the foi. The money allocated to the President's Office can be knwn even without the President telling us, thanks to the FOI. You can know what consultants earn and contractors agreement with the FG, thanks to the FOI.

What do we have at Lagos State level? We only get to hear what we are told and are forced to "live with it". Abeg no go there.

^^^^
Some good points here. Even though the FOI in practice is far from perfect it shows some progress has been made at the federal level. Not nearly enough but some. Which is far more than I can say for the LASG. I wonder if the cognitive dissonance being exhibited by Mr. Fashola allows him to sleep at night. angry angry

How can any APC hatchet man explain how an APC federal legislator can push a bill like the FOI for 8+ years, (in the face of strong opposition from a deceitful, venal and crooked OBJ administration angry) only for the same party to ignore the same bill at the state level. Do these people think we are all blind? angry angry

It will be a big shame if the APC wins the next gubernatorial election in Lagos state. That would simply prove that voters in Lagos are still simple minded and have still not learnt their lesson.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:50pm On Feb 27, 2015
Obiagelli:


Do you understand the word lobby? How was Obamacare passed?
It is like you don't understand the main objection to this bill. The Northern legislators are againt the The Petroleum Host Communities Fund (PHCF). This is part of the provision of the Bill that will provide for the economic, social and infrastructural development of communities within the petroleum-producing areas. The fund will be filled through a monthly 10 per cent net profit tax from every upstream producing company. The legislators from states that is outside these areas specifically the north are saying that it is unacceptable "after giving them 13%" derivative.

Other opposition to be PIB include the enormous power it will grant the Petroleum Minister, some even trabnsferred their personal beef with Dizani Madekwe. Abeg, the Presido can only do as he could, he can't force them.
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by agabaI23(m): 7:50pm On Feb 27, 2015
Who is holding the PIB? is it not your APC-centric house of reps? GEJ has done everything he would do on PID. It is lying with APC. The last time Madueke answered question on that she said, it is with the house. They should pass it right now.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:51pm On Feb 27, 2015
Ngwakwe:


He is correct to use it as a campaign slogan for the fact that both bills are executive bills and he is not only sponsoring the bill but also lobbying to get them passed.

The question is, between Jonathan and Buhari, in whose interest is it to get the bill passed?

National Confab is the brainchild of President Jonathan hence the Yoruba Statesmen can believe him than Buhari who never see it as a major talking point.

Cc Obiagelli

He can campaign with the bill but not by telling us he will get it passed when the PIB he promised is still hanging. Of all the pro gej's i think you understand the essence of this thread better.

He has to get the PIB passed before making more promises. That's the honourable thing to do.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by patrickmuf(m): 7:51pm On Feb 27, 2015
VolvoS60:


^^^^
The bolded part of your post got my attention.

Perhaps you should have used the word 'lot' instead of the word 'little. I marvel at how GEJ could whip the party faithful into line when it came to endorsing his candidacy and ensuring he ran unopposed at last year's party primaries. Yet GEJ cannot muster support for a life changing bill like the PIB despite a party majority in both Houses. Private interests trumping national interests? undecided


Perhaps you can educate me on any far reaching executive sponsored bill that has been passed into law in the past 4 to 6 years? And please do not mention the FOI bill. Although I give GEJ some credit for signing that bill (compare his speedy assent to the pig headed obstinacy of OBJ - a man who clearly wanted total freedom to run his corrupt and fraudulent government without any external scrutiny undecided), it should not be forgotten that the FOI bill was sponsored by an opposition lawmaker. (I must digress at this point and state my complete revulsion and disgust at APC governors who have refused to sponsor or assent to FOI bills at the state level. Is this not the meaning of hypocrisy and confusion? undecided).

As things stand, I am not aware of any 'signature' legislation (as Mr. Soludo would put it) that the GEJ administration can boast of. Without any groundbreaking legislation passed then what platform will the so-called 'institution building' (which we have heard so much about) rest on?

If GEJ isn't re-elected next month then what exactly will we say his legacy is?
God bless you bro...
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by deeptechcool(m): 7:53pm On Feb 27, 2015
Ngwakwe:


He is correct to use it as a campaign slogan for the fact that both bills are executive bills and he is not only sponsoring the bill but also lobbying to get them passed.

The question is, between Jonathan and Buhari, in whose interest is it to get the bill passed?

National Confab is the brainchild of President Jonathan hence the Yoruba Statesmen can believe him than Buhari who never see it as a major talking point.

Cc Obiagelli



Are you admitting that he has failed in his bid to get the bill passed after five good years? If the PIB bill can be stalled for that long, how many years w it take him again to lobby the house in passing the CONFAB report? I believe that is utmost deceit by the CinC.

As for Buhari, you can definitely seek for his opinion on the issue (FOI has been passed). I'm not here as his spokesperson

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:54pm On Feb 27, 2015
VolvoS60:


^^^^
Some good points here. Even though the FOI in practice is far from perfect it shows some progress has been made at the federal level. Not nearly enough but some. Which is far more than I can say for the LASG. I wonder if the cognitive dissonance being exhibited by Mr. Fashola allows him to sleep at night. angry angry

How can any APC hatchet man explain how an APC federal legislator can push a bill like the FOI for 8+ years, (in the face of strong opposition from a deceitful, venal and crooked OBJ administration angry) only for the same party to ignore the same bill at the state level. Do these people think we are all blind? angry angry

It will be a big shame if the APC wins the next gubernatorial election in Lagos state. That would simply prove that voters in Lagos are still simple minded and have still not learnt their lesson.
You see one of my problem with APC, they won't won't to put their houses in order but they are telling us what "they will do" when they have not done anything democratic at state level.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:56pm On Feb 27, 2015
agabaI23:
Who is holding the PIB? is it not your APC-centric house of reps? GEJ has done everything he would do on PID. It is lying with APC. The last time Madueke answered question on that she said, it is with the house. They should pass it right now.
bros, the poster you quoted is pro-PDP. Lol...
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:56pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
It is like you don't understand the main objection to this bill. The Northern legislators are againt the The Petroleum Host Communities Fund (PHCF). This is part of the provision of the Bill that will provide for the economic, social and infrastructural development of communities within the petroleum-producing areas. The fund will be filled through a monthly 10 per cent net profit tax from every upstream producing company. The legislators from states that is outside these areas specifically the north are saying that it is unacceptable "after giving them 13%" derivative.

Other opposition to be PIB include the enormous power it will grant the Petroleum Minister, some even trabnsferred their personal beef with Dizani Madekwe. Abeg, the Presido can only do as he could, he can't force them.

I know the bill brother, all these Northern whatever you are mentioning are just excuses. Are these not the same people running gej's campaign in the North?

How many members did the pdp hold in both Houses pre Apc?

Didn't these same people endorse gej without primaries, is the northern elders forum not campaigning for him today?

How did gej achieve all that?

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by PassingShot(m): 7:56pm On Feb 27, 2015
APC needs to really crumble this pack of lies on the confab report through massive sensitization. People must know that GEJ cannot deliver on it as he has failed before with the PIB.

The FOI bill, even though passed and signed into law has been used selectively. Or why has NOI/GEJ refused to make the pwc report on nnpc fraud public. Not even has it been submitted to the NASS despite repeated calls to do so.

GEJ is a fraud I swear.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by patrickmuf(m): 7:57pm On Feb 27, 2015
This thread is not about FOI, please let's talk PIB...
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 7:57pm On Feb 27, 2015
So Buhari is a better lobbyist than Jonathan? Lol
deeptechcool:

Nigerians are wiser now. How c you believe someone who cannot lobby the house to get the PIB passed? His promises are as empty as vegetations in the sahara desert.
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:00pm On Feb 27, 2015
agabaI23:
Who is holding the PIB? is it not your APC-centric house of reps? GEJ has done everything he would do on PID. It is lying with APC. The last time Madueke answered question on that she said, it is with the house. They should pass it right now.
Was there Apc before 2014? Didn't the pdp control the house of assembly?

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:03pm On Feb 27, 2015
Barcanista, have the FOI bill given us gej's asset declaration form?

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by deeptechcool(m): 8:05pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
So Buhari is a better lobbyist than Jonathan? Lol


Has Buhari head Nigeria as a democrat? You can do better.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:07pm On Feb 27, 2015
Obiagelli:


I know the bill brother, all these Northern whatever you are mentioning are just excuses. Are these not the same people running gej's campaign in the North?

How many members did the pdp hold in both Houses pre Apc?

Didn't these same people endorse gej without primaries, is the northern elders forum not campaigning for him today?

How did gej achieve all that?
My Dear, you see the problem is complex. It isn't a problem of Jonathan but the NASS. The Petroleum Minister has been fighting tooth and nail for the passage of the Bill but what can she do with a renegade House?
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Here2BustnScrew: 8:08pm On Feb 27, 2015
Obiagelli:

I will rather see and feel transformation than believe lies
the transformation is on going.. you can see it and also feel it...
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:09pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
My Dear, you see the problem is complex. It isn't a problem of Jonathan but the NASS. The Petroleum Minister has been fighting tooth and nail for the passage of the Bill but what can she do with a renegade House?

All i see is a failed promise and an unrepentant president

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:11pm On Feb 27, 2015
Obiagelli:
Barcanista, have the FOI bill given us gej's asset declaration form?
First, The President does not need to tell you his private resources, the law permits him to declate to the Code of Conduct Bureau(CCB). With the FOI, you can petition the CCB to provide you such document or you petition the President(in this case it becomes his prerogative).

I am sure the CCB will respond to you if you do by invoking the FOI. It is not by shouting on Social network or the media.
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:11pm On Feb 27, 2015
Here2BustnScrew:

the transformation is on going.. you can see it and also feel it...
That we will put to test on election day

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Ngwakwe: 8:11pm On Feb 27, 2015
Obiagelli:


He can campaign with the bill but not by telling us he will get it passed when the PIB he promised is still hanging. Of all the pro gej's i think you understand the essence of this thread better.

He has to get the PIB passed before making more promises. That's the honourable thing to do.

It seems you have a different meaning for the word campaign.

Putting the bill forward as executive bill and lobbying for the passage is all he needs to do to prove his sincerity while allowing democratic process to have its way..

Remember, my definition of opposition in Nigeria has nothing to do with party affiliation but regional interest except for APC South-west politicians who oppose their regional interest to punish the President while PDP Northerners will never relent in opposing a bill based on ethno-religious interest.

This is politics made in Nigeria.
Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:13pm On Feb 27, 2015
barcanista:
First, The President does not need to tell you his private resources, the law permits him to declate to the Code of Conduct Bureau(CCB). With the FOI, you can petition the CCB to provide you such document or you petition the President(in this case it becomes his prerogative).

I am sure the CCB will respond to you if you do by invoking the FOI. It is not by shouting on Social network or the media.

Very funny. Prerogative of someone who doesn't give a damn.

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Re: Gej Campaigned With PIB In 2011, Today He Is Campaigning On The Confab Report by Nobody: 8:16pm On Feb 27, 2015
Ngwakwe:


It seems you have a different meaning for the word campaign.

Putting the bill forward as executive bill and lobbying for the passage is all he needs to do to prove his sincerity while allowing democratic process to have its way..

Remember, my definition of opposition in Nigeria has nothing to do with party affiliation but regional interest except for APC South-west politicians who oppose their regional interest to punish the President while PDP Northerners will never relent in opposing a bill based on ethno-religious interest.

This is politics made in Nigeria.

Politics made in Nigeria hopefully will CHANGE for the better very soon. Results not sincerity defines a government (in my opinion)

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