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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by jaybee3(m): 8:32am On Mar 14, 2015
breadandbutter:



Ok. undecided but remember i warned you people undecided
Oga, please stop trolling on a serious thread like this. I take God beg you!
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by justi4jesu(f): 8:33am On Mar 14, 2015
Wisdom is profitable to direct, please use the fund wisely
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by esere826: 9:05am On Mar 14, 2015
britiko:


So how do u recognize the Anonymous donors suggestions?
Anonymous donors should not be recognized
they forsook this privilege when they chose to become anonymous -maybe for spiritual/humility reasons.
They'll definitely understand.
Because someone didn't contribute cash doesn't mean he/ she can't make a sensible suggestion as to how to handle d funds.
too many cooks spoil the broth
it is difficult for those who have no investment in something to make a sensible and acceptable suggestion regarding that thing.
I am sure you must have noticed the low level suggestions from none-givers here.

So this is the way it should work
the givers would read all you non-givers suggestions
then weed out the unsensible ones and use it to make a sensible decision
Tehn then implements
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by blood1(f): 9:32am On Mar 14, 2015
OPTION 3 please, with strong emphasis on relocating and empowering the mum, IF SHE'S COMFORTABLE WITH IT. The enviroment I saw those people in was soooo NOT OKAY!
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Seun(m): 9:49am On Mar 14, 2015
The money should be used to help other people. It was donated for the purpose of saving lives and not to restock shops. This is wrong IMHO.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by eluquenson(m): 10:16am On Mar 14, 2015
Seun:
The money should be used to help other people. It was donated for the purpose of saving lives and not to restock shops. This is wrong IMHO.
Really?
I guess the family of DJDOLA have been informed of certain amount available, anyway TEHN should seek a redress on this or better still go ahead with people's opinion.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Nobody: 10:17am On Mar 14, 2015
breadandbutter:



Ok. undecided but remember i warned you people undecided
so what will happen,if the mosque is not build?
Ogbeni gerrit and park well.

Comedian fit you,you're needed in joke section.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by bayplus: 10:26am On Mar 14, 2015
Aftre reading through all the options and suggestions.

I am of the opinion that the entire money be reserved for the next nairalander with life-threatening disease as long as it can be adequately verified to be genuine.

I am a donor, though anonymous but like others, what went through my mind while I was making the donation was "Here is an opportunity to [b][/b]SAVE A LIFE,

Now that Djola has passed on (regrettably though), may his soul rest in peace.

I think the wise thing is to look for the next possible life we can save.

Health challenges are part of human existence since Adam & Eve,

A visit to any general hospital in nigeria will show you how people die needlessly over mostly avoidable death.

I will be more than happy to donate more in future if it is to SAVE A LIFE

The impression given to donors was to join in saving a life not in providing financial assistance to indigent families.

Some of us will be encouraged or discouraged to donate for similar noble project in future, depending on how this issue is resolved.

It is the responsibility of the children (especially the first born) to take care of their mother, the amount in view cannot solve all the mother's problem. If ever some people a strongly convinced that the mother should ger some money, at best, N100k should be given to her discreetly to avoid the prying eyes of first born.

Finally, I suggest we keep the donations going and keep helping more people in dire need of finance for only life threatening illness or we can use, MTN foundation approach, not necessarily for the same machine.

Currentlly donated brain scanning machine called CCT scanner or so at Lagos Island General Hospital, they however charge minimally to maintain the equipment and to further use the proceeds to buy more medical equipments.

This way, rather than spend raw donations on medical bills, income generated by these equipments may not be enough but will
reduce pressure on donors if properly mannaged.

For instance, in the MTN FOUNDATION CCT Scanner, you don't pay cash to anyone, you pay to the first bank account dedicated for the machine's proceeds.

Sentiments and emotions can derail the true objective of this laudable goal, which is strictly and unambiguously to
[b][/b]SaVE A LIFE OR LIVES as the cas may be

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Nobody: 10:39am On Mar 14, 2015
For me
Tehn needs to be schooled on how NGO operates
You dont have to involve the whole donors when decisions are being made.
Just gets some competent hands to make decisions while you communicate decision to the general donors


If all cash was expended on saving dj and probably empowering him after he recovered
Will we be talking about the situation in his family, improving their lives and all that?

Money was raised by tehn onbehalf of dj
Now his gone
Empower just one individual in the family
And let them countinue their hustle

I work for an ngo that takes up medical issues like this
When we lose a patient
We empower just one person in the family and focus on other cases.
The family has no say as to how money should be spent

Tehn has an already recommended option
Go ahead with it
Then let the donors know that this is what you have been doing with their money.
You dont have to involve all at this stage.
My50kobo#

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by sinizia: 10:46am On Mar 14, 2015
I understand those that said the money should be used only to help another verified Nairalander. I share that sentiments too, after all the money donated was for DJ's health not his family's problem. But let's put others things into consideration.

DJ's mother had spent huge chunk of her money into treating DJ and it'd have dwindled her income. And DJ's mom would've been DJ's main concern in the outcome of his death.

So what I think should be done is to stock up her shop, or give her a definite amount of money to invest in her business (let her choose the better option that suits her), nothing else. if at all we can go further to help her, one year rent only (added to the shop money) should suffice. After that, we dust our hands and move on. How they fend after that is not our business. We're here to save a life not finance a family. This is my humble submission.

P.S: ignore that Breadandbutter troll please. He's not worth quoting. Thanks.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by sinizia: 10:50am On Mar 14, 2015
chidyhels:
For me
Tehn needs to be schooled on how NGO operates
You dont have to involve the whole donors when decisions are being made.
Just gets some competent hands to make decisions while you communicate decision to the general donors


If all cash was expended on saving dj and probably empowering him after he recovered
Will we be talking about the situation in his family, improving their lives and all that?

Money was raised by tehn onbehalf of dj
Now his gone
Empower just one individual in the family
And let them countinue their hustle

I work for an ngo that takes up medical issues like this
When we lose a patient
We empower just one person in the family and focus on other cases.
The family has no say as to how money should be spent

Tehn has an already recommended option
Go ahead with it
Then let the donors know that this is what you have been doing with their money.
You dont have to involve all at this stage.
My50kobo#

I disagree with the embolden. If TeHN doesn't involve us the members, this stuff won't end well. I remember the earlier fisticuffs on this thread earlier this year was because TeHN didn't keep the threadmates updated. We contributed to this cause and keeping us out of the decision-making process will yield catastrophic consequence and accusations.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by joelenesleek(f): 10:56am On Mar 14, 2015
breadandbutter:



His religion is the one and only religion God recognizes so we should encourage building a mosque on his behalf undecided
stop the sarcasm, this is a serious issue.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by joelenesleek(f): 10:58am On Mar 14, 2015
Idowuogbo:

Ewo!! shocked shocked are you serious? E b like say them go book bed space for this one o...Hian!
lmao. Maybe we should donate more to build paradise and buy more virgins undecided

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by britiko: 11:01am On Mar 14, 2015
[quote author=esere826 post=31602758] Anonymous donors should not be recognized
they forsook this privilege when they chose to become anonymous -maybe for spiritual/humility reasons.
They'll definitely understand.
too many cooks spoil the broth
it is difficult for those who have no investment in something to make a sensible and acceptable suggestion regarding that thing.
I am sure you must have noticed the low level suggestions from none-givers here.

So this is the way it should work
the givers would read all you non-givers suggestions
then weed out the unsensible ones and use it to make a sensible decision
Tehn then implements


[/quote
your analogy is quack.
Tehn, needed suggestions, that's why the question was thrown to d house. Its none of your
Business whether someone contributed or not.
Cos you av funds doesn't make you smarter than
Your counterpart that has nothing today.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by jaybee3(m): 11:05am On Mar 14, 2015
chidyhels:
For me
Tehn needs to be schooled on how NGO operates
You dont have to involve the whole donors when decisions are being made.
Just gets some competent hands to make decisions while you communicate decision to the general donors


If all cash was expended on saving dj and probably empowering him after he recovered
Will we be talking about the situation in his family, improving their lives and all that?

Money was raised by tehn onbehalf of dj
Now his gone
Empower just one individual in the family
And let them countinue their hustle

I work for an ngo that takes up medical issues like this
When we lose a patient
We empower just one person in the family and focus on other cases.
The family has no say as to how money should be spent

Tehn has an already recommended option
Go ahead with it
Then let the donors know that this is what you have been doing with their money.
You dont have to involve all at this stage.
My50kobo#
TeHN's mandate at the start of tge project was to get DJ back to his feet.
Unfortunately the mandate has changed due to the unfortunate circumstances hence the need to seek approval on way forward.

PS: TeHN's modus operandi has always been to utilise all funds donated for the specific projects except in rare end of year charity flight cases where we've had to roll balances over to subsequent years.

We are also in the process of legalising the group's activities so as to further increase our transparency
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by joelenesleek(f): 11:10am On Mar 14, 2015
olu4life:

Oga park well, na u go buy land? Or u think to construct a building is beans? Pls leave religion out of it. If it was on a religion platform he used, do u think we will all be here?!
even if It's a plastic or toy mosque Nairalanders won't fall for or agree to any religious scam.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by egopersonified(f): 11:25am On Mar 14, 2015
MUM ooooo . Anyone who wants to go and build in Cotonou can do that himself. Please bear in mind that if her accommodation is changed, would she be able to pay herself after the 2-3 years elapse? So let's consider that, if she has to move, and the fact that assuming it's a three bedroom flat, other family members would want to move in.

Putting money into her current business is also reasonable. Establishing another might not be successful in the long run.

Balance funds can be used for saving another life.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by akinsadeez(m): 11:30am On Mar 14, 2015
sinizia:


I disagree with the embolden. If TeHN doesn't involve us the members, this stuff won't end well. I remember the earlier fisticuffs on this thread earlier this year was because TeHN didn't keep the threadmates updated. We contributed to this cause and keeping us out of the decision-making process will yield catastrophic consequence and accusations.


At the same time, Tehn would never get a consensus decision immediately they are involving everyone. Different people with different ideas. This is what makes their decision making to be so prolonged. There is a big difference between keeping people updated and involving people. In my own opinion, Tehn should always keep people updated but coming to thread to ask for suggestions every single time isn't it for me.
Whenever I donate to causes like this, I don't retain any sense of entitlement over the money. Immediately d money has left my pocket, it is no longer in my capacity to say how it should be spent. That is why it is a willing donation and not buying of shares in a company. The idea that those who contributed should come and determine what to do with the money just doesn't seem right to me. It's as if we are saying that by donating they have bought shares and are now entitled to vote in the company.
I would prefer that the tehn guys should take a firm decision whichever way and update us. No matter the decision they take they can't please everybody anyway.




**I am not attacking anybody. This is just my opinion**

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by pickabeau1: 12:11pm On Mar 14, 2015
Akinsadeez

Yet you r aware that when some people attack tehn when decisions are made seemingly without any consideration from the people
I used seeming because all decisions are well thought out yet our integrity as called into question by some here

If an option had been provided to the house to roll over some or all of the balance for another project, some people will accuse tehn of diverting money

We considered carefully the ramifications of each option before tabling to the house.

If your preferences is for tehn to roll over the funds to another case..state it

Seun the administrator has stated his.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by akinsadeez(m): 12:44pm On Mar 14, 2015
pickabeau1:
Akinsadeez

Yet you r aware that when some people attack tehn when decisions are made seemingly without any consideration from the people
I used seeming because all decisions are well thought out yet our integrity as called into question by some here

Yes, I remember the time you guys were seriously under fire and I disagree with those people. I don't think you guys should consult us everytime you are to take decisions. putting tehn in charge implies that we have trust in your ability to take effective decisions. You should update us regularly though on the decisions you have taken and the current state of affairs.


If an option had been provided to the house to roll over some or all of the balance for another project, some people will accuse tehn of diverting money

That's d point. No matter which option you take there will still be disgruntled people. If you use the money for another project some people will say they donated specifically for Djdola's case. If you use the balance to set up d mom, some will still say they didn't donate their money for d family. Asking for our preference will not change that. It is inevitable.



We considered carefully the ramifications of each option before tabling to the house.

If your preferences is for tehn to roll over the funds to another case..state it

Seun the administrator has stated his.


I don't have a preference. I trust you guys to sit down, consider the issue from all angles and pick the best option. Whichever option you guys go for will not stop me from donating if another case comes up and I am willing and able to donate. You guys are doing a great job btw.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Nobody: 12:47pm On Mar 14, 2015
Jarus:


If TEHN had made up their mind, why did they come here for options with an express statement that "the consensus here will be implemented". So if the options are counted next week Friday and an option prevails, you mean TEHN will act contrary?

Let's be fair.

Lols @ Mr Jarus. You should have gotten a hint of what am saying by implication. Ok... Lets assume that Nairalanders vote that the whole money be used to buy land for the family, are you telling me that TEHN will go ahead and buy the land? If I hear! All the same, I know that they are just following protocol to avoid people feeling left out even though they contributed. We all know that Number 3 is the best option if implemented properly. Time is not on anybody's side. Whatever is being done, let it bw done ASAP and close that chapter... Simple.

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by donem: 12:56pm On Mar 14, 2015
I go for option 3.
N.B: pls suggestions from crafty individuals here, who where in position to help by donating but didnt aren't welcomed here.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by pickabeau1: 12:58pm On Mar 14, 2015
akinsadeez:


Yes, I remember the time you guys were seriously under fire and I disagree with those people. I don't think you guys should consult us everytime you are to take decisions. putting tehn in charge implies that we have trust in your ability to take effective decisions. You should update us regularly though on the decisions you have taken and the current state of affairs.



That's d point. No matter which option you take there will still be disgruntled people. If you use the money for another project some people will say they donated specifically for Djdola's case. If you use the balance to set up d mom, some will still say they didn't donate their money for d family. Asking for our preference will not change that. It is inevitable.




I don't have a preference. I trust you guys to sit down, consider the issue from all angles and pick the best option. Whichever option you guys go for will not stop me from donating if another case comes up and I am willing and able to donate. You guys are doing a great job btw.


Thanks for your confidence
Trusting tehn was the norm before but this case experienced a level of second guessing, rancor and bickering I had not seen personally even to the extent cab fare for transportation was queried

We had to forego the stipends for case workers in this case because of this same animosity.

We had discussions on what to do but being conscious of the issues means the approach was to table before the people lest another series of controversies start.

Bear with us and thanks for your trust

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by jaybee3(m): 1:24pm On Mar 14, 2015
exxell:


Ok... Lets assume that Nairalanders vote that the whole money be used to buy land for the family, are you telling me that TEHN will go ahead and buy the land?


Yes we would have gone ahead and rubber stamped that option even though we have reservations about it.
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Nobody: 1:25pm On Mar 14, 2015
sinizia:
I understand those that said the money should be used only to help another verified Nairalander. I share that sentiments too, after all the money donated was for DJ's health not his family's problem. But let's put others things into consideration.

DJ's mother had spent huge chunk of her money into treating DJ and it'd have dwindled her income. And DJ's mom would've been DJ's main concern in the outcome of his death.

So what I think should be done is to stock up her shop, or give her a definite amount of money to invest in her business (let her choose the better option that suits her), nothing else. if at all we can go further to help her, one year rent only (added to the shop money) should suffice. After that, we dust our hands and move on. How they fend after that is not our business. We're here to save a life not finance a family. This is my humble submission.

P.S: ignore that Breadandbutter troll please. He's not worth quoting. Thanks.


You called me a troll for stating my opinion You need to be flogged publicly
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Jarus(m): 2:07pm On Mar 14, 2015
exxell:


Lols @ Mr Jarus. You should have gotten a hint of what am saying by implication. Ok... Lets assume that Nairalanders vote that the whole money be used to buy land for the family, are you telling me that TEHN will go ahead and buy the land? If I hear! All the same, I know that they are just following protocol to avoid people feeling left out even though they contributed. We all know that Number 3 is the best option if implemented properly. Time is not on anybody's side. Whatever is being done, let it bw done ASAP and close that chapter... Simple.












Yes, if all Nairalanders vote for land, it will be implemented

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by esere826: 2:22pm On Mar 14, 2015
britiko:
your analogy is quack.
Tehn, needed suggestions, that's why the question was thrown to d house. Its none of your
Business whether someone contributed or not.
Cos you av funds doesn't make you smarter than
Your counterpart that has nothing today

the way you know folks that are definitely poor -which is not a bad thing
and who have a poverty mindset -now that's the bad thing
is the way they react to issues
they rant with statement like this: "is it because you have a new car?"

You'd notice that this sounds like your statement up there ^^

Sorry, I shouldn't be speaking with you today
perhaps, tomorrow when your material or mental state has been upped would be a better time

..i doubt you'd be able to understand what I just wrote
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by biggal: 3:08pm On Mar 14, 2015
Pls who is this djdola I hv been hearing about him. Pls can someone pls tell me about him. Plsssss no joke.tanx
Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Nobody: 4:22pm On Mar 14, 2015
My last statement for now will just be a restatement to Tehns
Whatever you decide to do,remember that you must also do it for the next case

If you relocate,restock or buy a store and fill it with goods,you must do same for the next case
The simple way to end this is give the mom a sum of money as a gift from the group to her and cut this lose
And remember that in another case,you must do same.
Keep it simple

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Re: RIP DJDOLA- We Will Miss You by Fhemmmy: 4:28pm On Mar 14, 2015
babyosisi:
My last statement for now will just be a restatement to Tehns
Whatever you decide to do,remember that you must also do it for the next case

If you relocate,restock or buy a store and fill it with goods,you must do same for the next case
The simple way to end this is give the mom a sum of money as a gift from the group to her and cut this lose
And remember that in another case,you must do same.
Keep it simple

I dont agree with this at all, different cases require different approach. ... so next case happen and afterwards there left only 100k, would they have to relocate and do all that, or imagine all monies was spent, would they have to raise funds to do all that?

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