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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by superstar1(m): 10:33am On Mar 18, 2015
sunayo:


Like I said, even Tinubu is not this confident. Accord, SDP, Labour all queuing behind GEJ in south west. All Buhari has in SW is APC. Pls bookmark this post and quote me after 28th of March. GEJ will win South West.

I repeat you do not understand the politics of SW. The mere fact that Osinbajo is from SW against a candidacy of GEJ/Sambo will nullify all those you mentioned.

You expect SW not to vote for their own or what?

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Nobody: 10:39am On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


Fantasy at its best. The people of SW are gullible they wont vote their own but will vote a man that spent 5 yrs,he is yet to show significant development in their zone. But GEJ will win SS because of being son of the soil regardless of performance.
i dey laugh ooooo.
28th is around the corner, we would see. Your Oyo analysis is total crap, i would not argue with you because you are not from the region and you dont understand the dynamics of Oyo politics. (Imagine you saying Ajimobi is not a grass root mobilzer).

They believe we don't have a mind of our own. The president has unlimited cash to throw around, he can buy any public figure he could get but he can't fool anyone out here and no b@stard politician can dictate who yoruba will vote for.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by 1wolex85: 10:42am On Mar 18, 2015
barcanista:
I don't know whether you read my piece or you jumped to conclusion. For a start, I said Ogbomoso is under the grip of Akala, Akala is an unapologetic GEJ supporter and has publicly endorsed Jonathan for President www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/south-west-leaders-endorse-jonathan/ he never liked APC and will never work for them. Same for Ibadan AP and Ladoja.

Let me refresh your mind on 2011, there was major crack within the PDP. Some stayed with Akala, some went with Ladoja to Accord, while few anti-Akala led by Folarin remained in PDP but openly worked against Akala. Most of the anti-Akala openly worked with AC.N. Accord was so unpopular but rode on Ladoja's goodwill. At the end Oyo state AC N vote was 420,167, PDP 386, 480, ACCORD 275,151. OYo AC also won 2 Senate with Akala's PDP winning 1 Senate. Today, 60% of the chieftains includiong all 2 Senators are now with Accord. In the State Parliament even APC members went to Accord or LP. Accord, PDP, SDP and LP may have their disagreement when it comes to local politics, they are ALL working for Jonathan's Presidency. I have given you public endorsements. For the Guber election, it is between AP and LP...APC is out of contention.

For Ekiti, you all still whine and won't come to terms with the reality. You claimed Obj rigged 2003 for PDP Gov, this is typical of opposition.

For Ondo State, I have showed you how GEJ and Oke have been reconciled but you kept calling Agagu. Agagu that couldn't win his reelection and Agagu that couldn't deliever Ondo to Oke in 2012. Well, we know that the "few" Agagu loyalists are splitted, some with Oke, others are moving to APC but they can't even outnumber Mimiko. Beside, Both Oke and Mimiko are core Jonathanians. Whether you like it or not, Oke and Mimiko are united as long as Ondo South is concerned.

For Lagos State, you don't expect me from arguing bedroom talk, but the PDP is united for the first time since 2006. All groups are core pro-Janathan(Koro and George groups).

Let me remind you that the case of Ogun has been dealt repeatedly, I can't be repeating myself.

In summary, as long as the Presidential poll is concerned, AP/Ladoja, LP/Akala, SDP/Makinde, AD, Afenifere, and PDP are signed up for Jonathan in Oyo State.

SDP/Osoba/Odunsi, PDP/GNI/OGD, LP, AD are working for GEJ in Ogun State.

Fayose/PdP and his team plus others are workin in Ekiti state

Mimiko, LP, Oke and others are working in Ondo

Koro, George, Adams, Fasheun, and ors are working for GEJ in Lagos

Omisore controls in Osun(this is where APC have hope).


Remember what happened in 2003 when AD leaders thought the split of Afenifere won't affect them, it cost them the Govership in all 6 states except Lagos.

I am still amazed how anyone thinks Osoba will work for GEJ/PDP! This makes no sense to anybody that knows Ogun politics. Osoba decamping is purely local politics, the worst he can do is to be indifferent to the presidential polls but he wont work for PDP.

In Lagos, if you call koro and george, i agree, but fasheun and adams? guy, haba! these ones hae no political influence whatsoever. the upn fasheun is trying to revive cant even win councillorship with fasheun's influence or rather lack of it in his own ward. Even Bode George has won his polling booth on lagos island only a few times (i think its even once,2011 presidential elections). When you talk about grassroot mobilisation, only koro has got it going on in pdp, maybe aero in alimosho also.
I dont know much about the rest of the states but please just drop the afenifere nonsense, name one of them that has won any election since 1999, just one!, anyway na next week, we can come back to this thread then.
I just saw something you wrote about ogun state, that Amosun won with Osoba structure! I laugh in spanish. Go back to the 2007 elections, DD direct riding on Aremo's structure came a distant 3rd, SIA brought a totally unknown party in the SW (ANPP) and came second (some still believe he won that election, there were so may irregularities that the appeal court even ordered a retrial by the election tribunal before daniel finally won at the appeal court at the second time of asking). Guy, you dey really underrate Amosun o!

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Scatterboss(m): 10:46am On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


You make me laugh with your analysis of SW politics. I never said Obj is a determinate factor but a stabilising factor for PDP in the south West. Apart from Fayose non of the people you stated would have an in root into the politics of SW without the input of Obj 2003 rigging machine.
How can you take out the military and security backing given to Pa Adedibu in 2003 and 2007 to deliver Oyo state to PDP. Adedibu was in APP 1999 and Ladoja invited him to PDP to help him dislodge Yekini Adeojo to win the Primaries. Akala was the Chairman of Ogbomosho North LG and the only APP LG chairman in Oyo state. His loyalty to Adedibu granted him the ticket, he was not a popular candidate but because of AD picked their deputy from Oke-ogun while PDP went for Akala (even when the populace of ogbomosho preferred Oloyede or Olorede from Ogbomosho south to Akala) and the voting strength of Ogbomosho is more than Oke-ogun.
You nailed your knowledge of Oyo politics by saying Ajimobi is not a mobilizer. Ajimobi was a senator 1999 - 2003 where he fell out with AD and joined APP. He contested against Akala in 2007 under ANPP and came second defeating even Lam Adesina led AD. For ACN to win 2011 election, Tinubu had to persuade Lam Adesina to accept Ajimobi into ACN. PDP banking on Ladoja is the worst thing any serious politician can do to itself. I like the way you accepted that PDP has not say in OYO politics but banking on endorsement from other political parties. Remember, it involves Local and National election. If you believe that regardless of the performance of Ameachi in rivers state he cannot win Rivers for GMB how come you can believe GEJ winning OYO state.
You said i gave Ogbomosho to APC, what structure do PDP/AP have in Ogbomosho compared to LP and APC. The Soun's son is contesting for HOR and is like a son-in-law to Akala. Do you think Akala would work for PDP in your wildest dream.
Ogun state is the funniest of all, OGD won the election of 2003 with the major financier by Senator Ibikunle Amosun and the political trickery of Obj over Osoba. ACN would not win the 2011 election if they did not produce Amosun. There was no strong candidate after the death of Dipo Dina. Tinubu negotiated with Osoba by telling him to give the governorship ticket to Amosun while he produce the deputy governor, senators and HOR members. Amosun agreed and after the 2011 election Amosun decided to amend the loopsided political structure. This did not go down well with Osoba. Osoba is strong no doubt about it but how do he come in terms with senate and HOR election that hold same day with Presidential. How do you tend to convince Ogun people to vote against their own while you expect GEJ to win out rightly in Bayelsa. You are the funniest analyst i have ever come across. I can bet it if GEJ gets 20% of the vote in that state OGD is a wonderful politician.
Ondo state, you got it wrong. Olushola Oke runs with the support and machinery of Late Agagu. That machinery have dissolved into APC. Without Agagu faction with Olushola, he can not win any thing at Ondo south.

I will conclude with your comment that you just scramble for documents online thinking that will translate to vote. We all know the strength of individuals in their society. PDP might make significant impact in local election but the presidency, it is a forgotten issue.

God bless you for that bold. Its unbelievable that someone can say OGD is a grassroot mobilizer in Ogun state, a man that was rubbished even in his acclaimed area of Sagamu( He is not even from Ogun state but Isoko, Delta state). OGD's case is like that of Bode George, people see him as a rogue and cultist. Do you know the number of lives wasted from 2003-2010 by cultist in all corners of Ogun state? Is it the Iyeru squad Vs OPC squad, or the Alhaji Pepsi, Burial ground OPC squad backed by Amosun and that of the OGD where there was massive exchange of bullets during the tribunal case of Amosun Vs OGD. More reason Amosun revenged by destroying all little legacies of OGD when he won the election, he chased all his tout away from Ogun and ridicule OGD, or the destroying of Abraham Tabernacle Church where OGD's Dad was buried and he was advised to exhume his Dad corpse. Those that talk about Ogun politics knows nothing about it and i just laugh when they believe Daniel or Ijebu-Igbo Kashamu will give them victory.

You are on point with the Osoba Vs Amosun issue, Osoba was just a greedy old man that want to have everything for him self alone. Even if Amosun contest under the platform of APGA in 2011, he is going to win. He introduced OGD to Obasanjo and they trashed Osoba in 2003 with Obj backing, how can Osoba and OGD work together? Lmaooooo. Osoba is only strong in Abeokuta, they will all fail together with Odunsi. Also, Osinbajo is the son of the soil and also backed by the Awolowos and Ijebu, yet they said he will lose. Too many ignorant kid on nairaland, Ogun state politics is local and very secretive.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by 1wolex85: 10:53am On Mar 18, 2015
Scatterboss:


God bless you for that bold. Its unbelievable that someone can say OGD is a grassroot mobilizer in Ogun state, a man that was rubbished even in his acclaimed area of Sagamu( He is not even from Ogun state but Isoko, Delta state). OGD's case is like that of Bode George, people see him as a rogue and cultist. Do you know the number of lives wasted from 2003-2010 by cultist in all corners of Ogun state? Is it the Iyeru squad Vs OPC squad, or the Alhaji Pepsi, Burial ground OPC squad backed by Amosun and that of the OGD where there was massive exchange of bullets during the tribunal case of Amosun Vs OGD. More reason Amosun revenged by destroying all little legacies of OGD when he won the election, he chased all his tout away from Ogun and ridicule OGD, or the destroying of Abraham Tabernacle Church where OGD's Dad was buried and he was advised to exhume his Dad corpse. Those that talk about Ogun politics knows nothing about it and i just laugh when they believe Daniel or Ijebu-Igbo Kashamu will give them victory.

You are on point with the Osoba Vs Amosun issue, Osoba was just a greedy old man that want to have everything for him self alone. Even if Amosun contest under the platform of APGA in 2011, he is going to win. He introduced OGD to Obasanjo and they trashed Osoba in 2003 with Obj backing, how can Osoba and OGD work together? Lmaooooo. Osoba is only strong in Abeokuta, they will all fail together with Odunsi. Also, Osinbajo is the son of the soil and also backed by the Awolowos and Ijebu, yet they said he will lose. Too many ignorant kid on nairaland, Ogun state politics is local and very secretive.
God bless you! Barcanista should stick to what he knows. I lived in Abk for several years and left in 2010, so i am aware of what is happening there. There was no way in hell ogd would have beaten amosun in 2007 if he wasnt the incumbent. The guy just dey underrate amosun sha.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Scatterboss(m): 10:54am On Mar 18, 2015
1wolex85:


I am still amazed how anyone thinks Osoba will work for GEJ/PDP! This makes no sense to anybody that knows Ogun politics. Osoba decamping is purely local politics, the worst he can do is to be indifferent to the presidential polls but he wont work for PDP.

In Lagos, if you call koro and george, i agree, but fasheun and adams? guy, haba! these ones hae no political influence whatsoever. the upn fasheun is trying to revive can even win councillorship with fasheun's influence or rather lack of it in his own ward. Even Bode George has won his polling booth on lagos island only a few times (i think its even once,2011 presidential elections). When you talk about grassroot mobilisation, only koro has got it going on in pdp, maybe aero in alimosho also.
I dont know much about the rest of the states but please just drop the afenifere nonsense, name one of them that has won any election since 1999, just one!, anyway na next week, we can come back to this thread then.
I just saw something you wrote about ogun state, that Amosun won with Osoba structure! I laugh in spanish. Go back to the 2007 elections, DD direct riding on Aremo's structure came a distant 3rd, SIA brought a totally unknown party in the SW (ANPP) and came second (some still believe he won that election, there were so may irregularities that the appeal court even ordered a retrial by the election tribunal before daniel finally won at the appeal court at the second time of asking). Guy, you dey really underrate Amosun o!



God bless you. No need to argue anymore, there judgement is based on newspaper rumour and endorsement. On one hand, they said the SS is on lockdown cos GEJ is there son, but Ogun state cant be like that when Osinbajo is also the son of the soil. HEheheheheheheheh

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Ayoakinkahunsi(m): 10:58am On Mar 18, 2015
Forget that election in some south west states will be rigged
look at the % of pvc collection it is diff from other region dont think is a coincident the brother tree silence dont mistake it for cluelessness
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Scatterboss(m): 11:00am On Mar 18, 2015
1wolex85:

God bless you! Barcanista should stick to what he knows. I lived in Abk for several years and left in 2010, so i am aware of what is happening there. There was no way in hell ogd would have beaten amosun in 2007 if he wasnt the incumbent. The guy just they underrate amosun sha.

Bros, Dont mind them. I dont argue with people that back there argument with newspaper rumour. I dont know how GNI( A man that destroyed Gateway Holdings during the time of OGD), and a known OGD protege will defeat Amosun. Ibikunle Amosun is not a talker, and always operate silently. The Ogun 2007 election was rigged and everyone knows, it was a clear rigging and that was why the case dragged for a long time. There was a video of ballot snatching by Ozogula stadium boys, and other video evidence so it was so obvious. They underrate Amosun cos he is always silent, it will clear in there eyes cheesy cheesy cheesy

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by MichaelSokoto(m): 11:01am On Mar 18, 2015
torkaka:
. . . . . . . . .why are you guys wasting your time with south west analysis? . . . . . . . . . . . .the south west is a sealed issue . . . . . . . . . . . . . .the only redemption for GEJ is award pipeline contracts to all south west indigenes, maybe then he might garner up to 30% of the votes grin grin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .the koko now is the other swing region 'north central' . . . . . . . . . . .Plateau, Nassarawa, Benue, Niger, Kogi & Kwara . . . . . . . . . .of the six states, goody boy is only sure of Plateau State . . . . . . . . . .otouke sure pass cheesy
Abi oo!
Make Jona relocate some pipes to n NC so as to enable him award contract to d militias there grin

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by ojaydedon(m): 11:07am On Mar 18, 2015
torkaka:
. . . . . . . . .why are you guys wasting your time with south west analysis? . . . . . . . . . . . .the south west is a sealed issue . . . . . . . . . . . . . .the only redemption for GEJ is award pipeline contracts to all south west indigenes, maybe then he might garner up to 30% of the votes grin grin . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .the koko now is the other swing region 'north central' . . . . . . . . . . .Plateau, Nassarawa, Benue, Niger, Kogi & Kwara . . . . . . . . . .of the six states, goody boy is only sure of Plateau State . . . . . . . . . .otouke sure pass cheesy

middle belt is sealed for goodluck my bro..

Dont be deceived.. Its just the southwest that was the problem for gej.. But now its not any more..
Name 1 heavy weight APC promoter in the middle belt Lol..

Bros.. March 29th go shock u oh..
People in the middle belt knw who they want already.. They are not confused.. They are not also brainwashed..

Many of the states face fulani attacks and u expect them to vote who the fulanis herds men are supportin?

March 28 is close.. Just make sure u vote.. But dont regret it later..

Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by 1wolex85: 11:08am On Mar 18, 2015
Scatterboss:


Bros, Dont mind them. I dont argue with people that back there argument with newspaper rumour. I dont know how GNI( A man that destroyed Gateway Holdings during the time of OGD), and a known OGD protege will defeat Amosun. Ibikunle Amosun is not a talker, and always operate silently. The Ogun 2007 election was rigged and everyone knows, it was a clear rigging and that was why the case dragged for a long time. There was a video of ballot snatching by Ozogula stadium boys, and other video evidence so it was so obvious. They underrate Amosun cos he is always silent, it will clear in there eyes cheesy cheesy cheesy
Yes o! Ozogula, Olopade , commissioner for sports, that guy use mapoly boys no be small. Short man.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Blackfire(m): 11:09am On Mar 18, 2015
the clueless one is winning oyo state, am putting my land in ologuneru and honda pilot as bet,.any apc member here?
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Nobody: 11:14am On Mar 18, 2015
ojaydedon:


middle belt is sealed for goodluck my bro..

Dont be deceived.. Its just the southwest that was the problem for gej.. But now its not any more..
Name 1 heavy weight APC promoter in the middle belt Lol..

Bros.. March 29th go shock u oh..
People in the middle belt knw who they want already.. They are not confused.. They are not also brainwashed..

Many of the states face fulani attacks and u expect them to vote who the fulanis herds men are supportin?

March 28 is close.. Just make sure u vote.. But dont regret it later..


. . . . . . . . . . .Fulani attacks abi? take Benue for example two of the three senate seats are with APC, the electorates don't want to hear the names Goodluck and Suswam . . . . . . . . . . . . . .wherever the PDP governorship candidate goes campaigning, he is reminded to tell his boss to come pay their 6 months salary before he can talk to them . . . . . . . . . . . .middle belt ko? abi waist belt? . . . . . . . . .March 28th don dey show cool cool

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Scatterboss(m): 11:28am On Mar 18, 2015
1wolex85:

Yes o! Ozogula, Olopade , commissioner for sports, that guy use mapoly boys no be small. Short man.

Yea, Bukola Olopade. He assembled Bucaneers, Eiye and Aiye together and they all work for him. Meanwhile, Osinbajo is in the ticket, and you cant expect them to vote for a Bayelsa man over there son.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by PassingShot(m): 11:29am On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


Fantasy at its best. The people of SW are gullible they wont vote their own but will vote a man that spent 5 yrs,he is yet to show significant development in their zone. But GEJ will win SS because of being son of the soil regardless of performance.
i dey laugh ooooo.
28th is around the corner, we would see. Your Oyo analysis is total crap, i would not argue with you because you are not from the region and you dont understand the dynamics of Oyo politics. (Imagine you saying Ajimobi is not a grass root mobilzer).

Fantasy it is indeed!
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by PassingShot(m): 11:30am On Mar 18, 2015
Blackfire:
the clueless one is winning oyo state, am putting my land in ologuneru and honda pilot as bet,.any apc member here?


How much is the worth of that land? I'll give you the money if Jonathan wins without magomago.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by ojaydedon(m): 11:38am On Mar 18, 2015
torkaka:


. . . . . . . . . . .Fulani attacks abi? take Benue for example two of the three senate seats are with APC, the electorates don't want to hear the names Goodluck and Suswam . . . . . . . . . . . . . .wherever the PDP governorship candidate goes campaigning, he is reminded to tell his boss to come pay their 6 months salary before he can talk to them . . . . . . . . . . . .middle belt ko? abi waist belt? . . . . . . . . .March 28th don dey show cool cool

u will be surprised
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Energito11: 11:42am On Mar 18, 2015
schrondinger:
you don't know about grassroot politics in southwest. as for ondo, I live in akure, take it or leave it. It pdp is divided in ondo state and mimiko is trying every thing to sell jona to people going from sch to sch and people no longer take him serious, apc have atleast 50% as for now in ondo, ask anybody
GEJ go win and e go clear for your eye.meanwhile
GEJ till 2019.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by GeneralBosco: 11:46am On Mar 18, 2015
ojaydedon:


u will be surprised
Bros I was in Benue state for three weeks in January. To be sincere Na you go surprise with the outcome.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by ojaydedon(m): 11:50am On Mar 18, 2015
GeneralBosco:

Bros I was in Benue state for three weeks in January. To be sincere Na you go surprise with the outcome.

you shuld hav gone within this period to know whatsup.. Na 10days remain na..

ThE result go shock una
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Olaolufred(m): 11:52am On Mar 18, 2015
AS IT IS TODAY,

EVERY NIGERIANS HAD ENDORSED, OR PURPORTEDLY ENDORSED JONA.

BUT MY GREATEST SURPRISE IS THAT THE MAN SO LOVED AND MASSIVELY ENDORSED BY HIS PEOPLE IS AFRAID OF CARD READER.

AT LEAST MARILYN OGAR(SSS SPOKESPERSON) HAD ALLEGED THAT APC IS CLOWNING PVC.

CARD READERS WILL TRUNCATE THE USE OF CLOWNED PVCS.

I THINK NIGERIAN MASSES WILL VOTE FOR JONATHAN FOLLOWING HIS MASSIVE ENDORSEMENTS.

SO, JONAH SHOULD NOT BE SCARED OF CARD READERS.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by orimsamsam(m): 12:03pm On Mar 18, 2015
let the protection seeker continue to fool himself

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Controlled(f): 12:06pm On Mar 18, 2015
superstar1:
GEJ is forgetting the influence of the middle class in SW election. They are knowledgeable and technological savvy. You will never see them at any political rally but they are very conscious politically. They will not demand dollars or naira, they only appraise the contestants objectively. They vote silently and ensure their votes are counted through monitoring online, devices and social media.

No king or politician has any control over their votes. They are independent minded and not gullible to anybody's propaganda.

How popular is GEJ in that particular group.

The only politician that realised that on time is Fashola and no wonder, he is popular beyond measures.

10 orijin for my head......great post n spot on....this demographic is actually d most influential in d sw..... not obas n opc or afenifere....... pdp is dead on arrival here.... grin grin

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by stronger: 12:08pm On Mar 18, 2015
1wolex85:

God bless you! Barcanista should stick to what he knows. I lived in Abk for several years and left in 2010, so i am aware of what is happening there. There was no way in hell ogd would have beaten amosun in 2007 if he wasnt the incumbent. The guy just they underrate amosun sha.

Mehn guys Scatterboss Dvanguard

No need to argue again. We are talking in-depth yoruba politics, he is posting newspaper links. grin grin grin

GEJ FAILED the S/S completely and he ADMITTED it himself, promising to do better, yet the S/S will vote for him because HE IS OUR SON. If barcanista agrees to that, how can he then claim Osibanjo factor will be useless. . . hehehehehehe
If we can admit that Amaechi's fantastic achievements and grassroot acceptability will still not translate to a Buhari Win in rivers then how can GEJ win in Ogun state? LOL!!

Abeg e don do. No need to argue. Let's just wait. 10 more days to CHANGE!!

SAI BUHARI!!

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 12:13pm On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:
GEJ to win South West is a very difficult task but politics is a game which requires major and minor players. Lots of factors are against GEJ winning SW.
There are two major schools of thoughts in the South West;
1. The regional champions who believe they need to grow from their performance in the region to national politics. (The Progressives led by Tinubu)
2. The national champions who believe they can muscle they national spread on the regional SW politics. (The Conservatives led by Obj).
The two minority schools of thoughts in the SW;
1. The disgruntled or out of favour champions that falls out due to power play in their respective states in the progressive camp. (Progressive fallout – SDP and Afenifere)
2. The selected few that due to their closeness to the President and the fallout of their seeking relevance by taking order from Ota while they can do that with their closeness to the Presidency. (Conservative fallout)
South West politics is very dynamic; lots of factors determine their voting pattern. Local election cannot be used as a yardstick to decide their voting pattern. Most times their votes are determined by the value and quality of the candidate in the National Politics.
Factors SW consider when choosing candidate nationally based on history of their voting pattern since 1999 – 2011.
1. Perceived victim of victimization by the particular group/zone of people against a candidate. (for example yar’adua’s cabal against GEJ 2010).
2. National policies like fuel subsidy. (Fuel price in SW region is most times within the regulated price because of the understanding of its sensitivity of the policy to them).
3. They are most times less concerned about the National Politics as long as their local champion delivers on their said promises. (If one of their local champions is involved then they tend to partake).
4. They check the performance of the candidates based on the current reality on ground and pinch their tent with the one that will defend their interest most.
5. Political leaders are respected based on the perspective of the area within the regions they control. Political leader must have contributed meaningful to the area or state he belongs to, he must be seen to be humble and not abusive and must be seen to have a sense of direction.

GEJ lost the battle for SW by committing the worst blunder by allowing two major gladiators in a region to fight him. (Obj & Tinubu). Tinubu relevance in SW politics started 2003 when he was the only governor to survive the tactical blunder committed by his party members (AD) and Afenifere. Since then he had made his in root to the hearts of SW by producing Governors of impeccable characters and known for excellence in their professional field before joining politics. These are some of the factors that affect PDP in some of the state elections. Tinubu has been successful even in the face of defeat in Ondo and Ekiti election. Ondo Election was not about Tinubu but the exemplary performance of the governor Mimiko against an unknown Akeredolu (a legal luminary), it was a political blunder while that of Ekiti state is a politics that I don’t understand but the popularity of Fayose cannot be overlooked regardless of his thug like character. (Might be linked to the dissatisfaction of the civil servants against fayemi’s policy).
Obasanjo might not be relevant in the local politics of SW but he has always been the stabilizing factor in the SW conservative party. He single handed ensured the relevance of PDP in SW with finance and political position giving to his lieutenants. His inability to show significant development in the SW has not made him accepted as the Leader of Yoruba’s after being the President of Nigeria and them voting en-mass for him 2003. He has been a major source of success of PDP in the SW.

State by state analysis will be presumed on five factors namely;
1. Performance
2. Political structure
3. Political gladiators
4. Perspective of the ordinary SW.
5. Ethnicity/religion

EKITI;
Ekiti state will be a very tight race. The charisma and the do-or-die attitude of the Governor will play a major role, either positive or negative march 28 will decide. The incumbent will have a lot on his way because he still enjoys the goodwill of his people based on his flawless victory in his election. The negative aspect of it is that fayose have not been able to manage his success within his party rank. The state primaries have caused lot of problem between him and some of the gladiators that helped him during his election. Like Senator Arise and Senator Gbenga Aluko etc. He runs the state PDP like his personal property. He calls the shot which can go well for him or work against him. The opposition in the state have succeeded in painting him in bad light among the elite which has a minimal impact in local politics but heavy impact in National politics. The APC succeeded in mending fence with their arch rival LP candidate, he is back into their fold. The perspective of an average Yoruba man politically still believes in the school of thoughts of Awolowo, which Tinubu’s group have clung to over time. If APC follows Awolowo's ideology is a discussing for another day.
Finally, since 2011 politically the SW have been marginalised from National politics and no meaning full development in Ekiti from the Federal Govt., and there is this noise of ‘na our son make he dey there’ wont they want their fellow ethnic person be there too.

VERDICT:
Fayose is loved as a person but his ability to convince his people to vote GEJ is another task to see his doggedness against all odds.
If he succeeds PDP 55% while APC 45%, but if he fails PDP 35% APC 65%.

ONDO;

Ondo State is a state that the governor has lost his goodwill from the people due to lots of labour issue. The movement of from LP to PDP has weakling his political strength. The people he met in PDP moved to APC and some of the aggrieved members of his former LP who could not get recognition based on the movement from LP to PDP fell out and joined APC. Formerly the politics of Ondo state is shared along senatorial zones. Ondo North is the strong base of APC led by Boroface and co, Ondo Central is the strong base of LP led by the Gov himself Mimiko while Ondo South is led by late Agagu camp PDP. The current fall out has made APC strong in two senatorial zones while PDP Ondo Central.
Mimiko is the all in all today in Ondo PDP, while APC has leaders in every zone of the strength of Mimiko (but not as strong as mimiko). Their combination would defeat the campaign strategy of mimiko in National politics which can be impossible in Local politics. The problem with PDP in SW will be on what performance bases he will campaign. If he as a Governor campaigned based on his achievement in his state what will he campaign with as the president’s achievement in Ondo state.
The love his people had for him 2012 is lost which will play also a major role in his ability to convince the electorate. Our son syndrome will also play a major role.
The perspective of GEJ in this area is very poor. Forget the endorsement of falae and afenifere, Falae has never won any election he sponsored since 2003 in Akure. He is respected but that has never transcended to votes.

VERDICT;
PDP 30% APC 70%

OSUN ;

This is a no go area for PDP. Sen. Omisore is the only political gladiator in PDP. Omisore will have to slug it out with the Governor and the interest of the God father of APC VP Osinbanjo town. The other senatorial zone is a complete no go area for PDP.
Osun state is a complete lock down area for APC. Lots of factors favour APC. Discussing this state is a waste of energy.

VERDICT;
PDP 20% APC 80%

OYO;

This is a state that parades lots of gladiators in different zones of the state. But PDP have played lots of bad politics earlier which back fired against them. This a state that is Muslim dominated and religion sometimes plays a factor in their choice of candidature. PDP also played the card of APC frustrating the interest of Yoruba’s by blocking the emergency of their daughter Mulikat as Speaker of the House. Today, APC chose a Yoruba man as VP which is higher and have significant importance than speaker. I don’t know how PDP will convince them to vote GEJ when they have a fellow ethnic nationality in a higher position. (They can’t still understand the advantage of Bankole to SW when he was Speaker).
Oyo State is classified into 4 zones. Ibadan, Oyo town, Ogbomosho, Oke-ogun and they are led by different gladiators. Ibadan is a strong hold of Ladoja and the incumbent Gov Ajumobi with voting power of 60 – 40% respectively. The most interesting thing is that Ibadan determines one-third of the voting strength with 11 LG. Ladoja will never canvass for PDP or APC because he knows their success in Presidential election will affect his chances. His bosom friend that led to his fallout with Obj is now a leader in APC (Atiku). The PDP Gov candidate Teslim is a nobody and carries no weight compared to the earlier two candidates in Ibadan. Therefore it is a clean a battle for APC in Ibadan.
Oyo town is locked down for APC because of the cordial relationship between the Oba and the Incumbent gov. This is the only town in SW that the Oba has lots of influence in the election in his domain. His son is a candidate of APC contesting for Fed. Rep.
Ogbomosho is another big town in SW and Oyo state. The big fish in this town is Alao Akala. His fallout with PDP is a big blow and will do anything to ensure that PDP does not win Presidential and Senatorial election because of his ambition to become the governor. The next strong gladiator to him is Hon. Buhari (APC) who is contesting for senate. He is not a match for Akala but he can climb on Akala’s grand stand against PDP senatorial candidate from Oke-ogun and his gubernatorial ambition.
Oke-ogun is a battle ground between PDP and APC. The deputy governor is from oke ogun while the incumbent senator is also from Oke ogun. Oke ogun have always been a APC enclave until Senator Agboola Hosea broke the jinx. Winning local election is different from national election, especially when the perspective of the PDP Presidential candidate in these areas is very poor.
Religion and ethnicity will play a major role.

VERDICT;
PDP 30% APC 70%

OGUN;

There is little to talk about here because, a son of the soil is involved. He is not just a son of the soil but a renowned professional religiously and excellent in his career. The fallout of Osoba from APC cannot deem the chance in the presidential race (it might in guber) because Osoba cannot work alongside with Gbenga Daniel. SDP National might adopt GEJ but Osoba will never because 2003 election mistake is still fresh in his memory.

VERDICT;
PDP 20% APC 80%

LAGOS;

History as always showed that candidate that Tinubu supports have always won the Presidential Election in Lagos state since 1999. Obj won Lagos in 2003 because AD did not field any Presidential Candidate. 2007 PDP lost Lagos state to Atiku because of Tinubu’s influence.
Tinubu strength in Lagos state can only be matched by Late Engr. Funsho Williams. Who understand the workings of Yoruba politics by not attempting to join the PDP at the National (he might get contracts but ensured he did not meddle into National Politics). He played his politics within Lagos and has the grassroot structure like Tinubu. He and Tinubu were contemporaries in AD 1998 before he left for PDP. Since his demise PDP Lagos has not been able to muscle such grass root structure again. The structure merged with Tinubu in 2007.
PDP needs to up their game which is already late. The fuel subsidy protest has painted the Fed government in bad light. The inability of the FG to bring the cabals, fraudsters to justice and the promised refinery is a big minus. This state is the commercial heart of the nation. Propaganda can’t fly to an extent because they feel the effect of government policies faster than any state in the federation. The state is blessed with different people all over the country because of his economic advantage which is perceived to be the hard work of the ruling party APC. Most of the eligible voters are knowledgeable, they are vast in one aspect or the other and well informed.

VERDICT;
PDP 30% APC 70%.

CONCLUSION;
Personally I don’t see PDP winning SW because of lots of factors that cannot be discussed at once. GEJ does not have a well trusted, respected Elder from Yoruba Land that some people will listen to across the 6 states in his team. No matter how u view it, Yoruba’s look up to some people because of their achievement in Life and success. Allowing Tinubu and OBj to work against him in the SW is the worst that can happen to a person.

Buhari/Osinbajo will win SW vote’s landslide.



@barcanista, @Gbawe
I may not know much about others state but in Osun state I am

Apc might carry the day but pop won't get less than 40%
U believe Apc will ekiti bcuz of primaries
Do u know hw the primaries went down here in Osun for Apc?

I laugh when you said local politics don't play part in national politics

Take it or leave it
Gej will get d numbers of vote he needed
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 12:23pm On Mar 18, 2015
DVanguard:


Fantasy at its best. The people of SW are gullible they wont vote their own but will vote a man that spent 5 yrs,he is yet to show significant development in their zone. But GEJ will win SS because of being son of the soil regardless of performance.
i dey laugh ooooo.
28th is around the corner, we would see. Your Oyo analysis is total crap, i would not argue with you because you are not from the region and you dont understand the dynamics of Oyo politics. (Imagine you saying Ajimobi is not a grass root mobilzer).
Show me what bubu did in North and u believe he be voted for

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 12:27pm On Mar 18, 2015
You people just don't know what's up.

If someone as very inconsequential as me would be getting close to 1000 votes for GEJ in Oyo state, Just imagine the number of votes his numerous big players will get.

PDP has a lot foot soldiers in the southwest that can influence other people (maybe through past good deeds and some other means), I can't say same about the APC and Buhari.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by HzRF(m): 12:34pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:
You people just don't know what's up.

If someone as very inconsequential as me would be getting close to 1000 votes for GEJ in Oyo state, Just imagine the number of votes his numerous big players will get.

PDP has a lot foot soldiers in the southwest that can influence other people (maybe through past good deeds and some other means), I can't say same about the APC and Buhari.
Thanks a lot Bro
Until my uncle got into core politics in Osun I never knw how things are

In Ede Bello face a delete and other top 5 politicians He lost Ede by 3k+
Omisore cleared ife, even in Apc stronghold pdp still got votes
Many are learners they don't know politics is more Dan noise
That's why many will shout it was rigged on 28th

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 12:42pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

Thanks a lot Bro
Until my uncle got into core politics in Osun I never knw how things are

In Ede Bello face a delete and other top 5 politicians He lost Ede by 3k+
Omisore cleared ife, even in Apc stronghold pdp still got votes
Many are learners they don't know politics is more Dan noise
That's why many will shout it was rigged on 28th

They just don't get it, confirmed GEJ votes will be shepherded into their respective ballot boxes.

I have learned from the PDP why it is good to empower lots of party members/supporters, you stand to reap the benefits in times like this.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 12:46pm On Mar 18, 2015
HzRF:

I may not know much about others state but in Osun state I am

Apc might carry the day but pop won't get less than 40%
U believe Apc will ekiti bcuz of primaries
Do u know hw the primaries went down here in Osun for Apc?

I laugh when you said local politics don't play part in national politics

Take it or leave it
Gej will get d numbers of vote he needed

It seems you know what went down in the APC primaries in Osun.

What can you say about the senatorial contest between Fadahunsi of PDP (Ilesha) and Jide Omoworare of APC (ile Ife) considering the fact that those are two of largest voting blocs in Osun state. Who do you think will carry the day?

I have my opinion already, I just want to see if I can get a different view.
Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by atlwireles: 12:47pm On Mar 18, 2015
Bayswater:


They just don't get it, confirmed GEJ votes will be shepherded into their respective ballot boxes.

I have learned from the PDP why it is good to empower lots of party members/supporters, you stand to reap the benefits in times like this[b].



At the end of the day all politics is local.

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Re: Gej Cannot Win South West (personal Opinion) @barcanista by Bayswater: 12:55pm On Mar 18, 2015
atlwireles:



At the end of the day all politics is local.

Yes, bro. There are too many power blocs in the PDP, that actually caused the frictions the party has witnessed in the past.

It is to a great advantage that these power blocs are working desperately for a common cause which is to return GEJ for a second term.

You can barely count 10 powerful APC politicians in any southwestern state but in the PDP you can conveniently count 10 in every local government. That will greatly count in a tight election like this.

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