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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:24pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:

Come on! Hazard has come in leaps and bounds since Mata left Chelsea.

his growth is rather slow. mata won chelsea player of the year in his debut season in england & then repeated the same feat a season later when hazard arrived. it's a shame mourinho loves sweaty players more. guardiola wouldn't have preferred oscar to mata.


Check out who is leading the stats for creation of the highest goal scoring chances in England and amongst the best in Europe this season. http://www.goal.com/en-us/news/1956/europe/2015/01/03/7618202/who-is-the-most-creative-player-in-europe-this-season

Hazard is a world best material, Mata is a top level footballer.


Here is last season stat http://talksport.com/football/shock-stats-top-six-most-creative-players-premier-league-14022881673?p=5

it seems you don't understand your stats - hazard plays a lot of minutes. he's the modern day lampard. he has only missed 34 minutes of football in 30 league games - that must be a record for any outfield forward player on the planet.

when you play more, you get a better chance to offer more. key passes, creating chances, scoring or assisting. how's that difficult to grab? player A scores 10 goals in 10 matches. player B scores 7 goals in 5 matches......you want to convince me player A is more creative than player B? cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 5:29pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


his growth is rather slow. mata won chelsea player of the year in his debut season in england & then repeated the same feat a season later when hazard arrived. it's a shame mourinho loves sweaty players more. guardiola wouldn't have preferred oscar to mata.



it seems you don't understand your stats - hazard plays a lot of minutes. he's the modern day lampard. he has only missed 34 minutes of football in 30 league games - that must be a record for any outfield forward player on the planet.

when you play more, you get a better chance to offer more. key passes, creating chances, scoring or assisting. how's that difficult to grab? player A scores 10 goals in 10 matches. player B scores 7 goals in 5 matches......you want to convince me player A is more creative than player B? cheesy

Staying fit and playing more matches is what makes a great player, it's part of the package, in addition to techniques, speed, strength and stamina.

Admit it, Hazard is the complete package, it wouldn't hurt to admit it, he mustn't play for Man U for you to admit it.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 5:31pm On Apr 05, 2015
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 5:45pm On Apr 05, 2015
You Are Welcome.

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:47pm On Apr 05, 2015
Keky:
Eden Hazard, Santi Cazorla, David Silva? The best playmaker

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2916442/Eden-Hazard-Santi-Cazorla-David-Silva-Stewart-Downing-Sportsmail-reveal-best-playmaker-Premier-League.html

Pazienza and Coogar You Are Welcome.

this keky wears daftness on his skin like tattoo. how does that link of yours show a true picture when it didn't take time spent on the pitch into consideration. as at january, hazard had 1,400 league minutes over mata & silva. goals scored via penalties were also included in the stats, mata & silva don't score from penalties.

you are as daft as the author of that article.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Keky(m): 5:50pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


this keky wears daftness on his skin like tattoo. how does that link of yours show a true picture when it didn't take time spent on the pitch into consideration. as at january, hazard had 1,400 league minutes over mata & silva. goals scored via penalties were also included in the stats, mata & silva don't score from penalties.

you are as daft as the author of that article.
Thank You Very Much.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:51pm On Apr 05, 2015
Keky:
Thank You Very Much.

argue with facts.....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 5:51pm On Apr 05, 2015
Keky:
Eden Hazard, Santi Cazorla, David Silva? The best playmaker

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2916442/Eden-Hazard-Santi-Cazorla-David-Silva-Stewart-Downing-Sportsmail-reveal-best-playmaker-Premier-League.html

Pazienza and Coogar You Are Welcome.


Thank you. Mr Coogar sabi argue die. He reminds me of an old time Nairalander called Kobojunkie, you can never win against them.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 5:54pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:

Thank you. Mr Coogar sabi argue die. He reminds me of an old time Nairalander called Kobojunkie, you can never win against them.

so that link also convinces you that hazard is more creative than juan mata? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pazienza(m): 5:57pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


so that link also convinces you that hazard is more creative than juan mata? grin

Omo, you don win, abeg. I no argue again. *grins*
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 6:00pm On Apr 05, 2015
pazienza:


Omo, you don win, abeg. I no argue again.

i always win.
considering the fact that hazard has played more minutes, has scored from awoof penalties, his goals/assists are still way less than mata's overall.

abeg, khaki no be leather. running around & dribbling into blind alleys have nothing to do with creativity. mata & silva are the best creators in this league by a distance & the stat i posted was compiled last week.

QED!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 6:57pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


Don't you think his big name will create this fear factor if he starts?

Actual performance on the pitch is more important than "big name", if not we should be starting Falcao and RVP in every match.
Continue with this winning line up until Di Maria either steps up in consistency or someone loses form.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SailorXY: 7:00pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


My great grand mother has a better chance of resurrecting
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you mean Eden Owolabi Festus Anamelechi Hazard has no chance @ the balon d'Or
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 7:04pm On Apr 05, 2015
afrodoc2:

Actual performance on the pitch is more important than "big name", if not we should be starting Falcao and RVP in every match.
Continue with this winning line up until Di Maria either steps up in consistency or someone loses form.

di maria should start on the bench against city. i agree with you here.....di maria & falcao have not fully adapted to what is required in the so called big games in england.

besides, we are enjoying a consistency that chelsea have had all season with their ever-present players. if it ain't broken, why fix ish? the chemistry between the triangle of blind, young & fellaini has been superb. valencia, mata & herrera are also killing it on the right channel.

LVG's philosophy has finally come into fruition. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 7:04pm On Apr 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
E sha no reach 9. No Epl team ll stand by and watch u put 9 goals past them. United ve beaten Birmingham 7-0 and there's the famous 8-2. And Arsenal did concede 6 twice last season and 5 in another but 9 is just too much

See? You've mentioned that arsenal conceded 8,6,5 on 3 occasions now. How is it any different from what goes on in la liga? It can happen anywhere
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by barackohandso(m): 7:09pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


My great grand mother has a better chance of resurrecting

Lwkmd grin
Na so you hate hazard reach?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by folba(m): 7:32pm On Apr 05, 2015
lekkie073:
if u have tubemate on ur mobile device, use ur to search for the matches u want to download. I have loads of manutd highlights but mist are from beinsports...
Tanx bro
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by chrisley024(m): 8:25pm On Apr 05, 2015
Well, I've vowed not to talk Rooney issue with you.
elampiro:


Do you people hope or look for excuse to tear Rooney apart? How can you say he was shyte. Coming from chrisley who would praise RVP after scoring a goal even if he had been poor over several games, and even if he was the worst player in the game he finally scored.

I don't understand why some players attract bad comments here in the slightest opportunity. Rooney' movements have been praise worthy even when he is not on the ball. Yesterday when he was dropped into attacking midfield behind Falcao, he did not put any foot wrong.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:29pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


hazard was at chelsea when mata won their player of the season.


That was Hazard first season in Chelsea na,
His undoubtedly their most important player now.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:30pm On Apr 05, 2015
AdeLaNa1:
Juan Mata:
Real Madrid B: 39 Apps, 10 Goals
Valencia: 174 Apps, 46 Goals
Chelsea: 135 Apps, 33 Goals
United: 42 Apps, 14 Goals

Spain: 34 Apps, 10 Goals






Santi Cazorla:
Villarreal: 66 Apps, 7 Goals
Recreativo: 34 Apps, 5 Goals
Villarreal: 162 Apps, 26 Goals
Málaga: 42 Apps, 9 Goals
Arsenal: 136 Apps, 27 Goals

Spain: 69 Apps, 11 Goals




The above stats dont even take into consideration Assists, Individual honours, U16, U20 etc.
so wat is the beef.....am sure even the above stats of mata can be better than iniesta's, but that wont make him a better player than iniesta or cazorla.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 8:31pm On Apr 05, 2015
afrodoc2:


Actual performance on the pitch is more important than "big name", if not we should be starting Falcao and RVP in every match.
Continue with this winning line up until Di Maria either steps up in consistency or someone loses form.

Yeah you right
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by raumdeuter: 8:34pm On Apr 05, 2015
barackohandso:


Lwkmd grin
Na so you hate hazard reach?

Hazard needs to kill Messi, Ronaldo, Bale, Neymar, Suarez, Robben Sanchez Reus before he can be nominated for Ballon D or

Hazard still dey drag dribble with Bellarabi, Firmino and Mikiraryan
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 8:35pm On Apr 05, 2015
SIRcumalot:

That was Hazard first season in Chelsea na,
His undoubtedly their most important player now.

how did mata win it in his first season at chelsea abi na inside stamford bridge dem born mata? grin

all you hazard fans can make excuses, eh? grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 8:37pm On Apr 05, 2015
barackohandso:


Lwkmd grin
Na so you hate hazard reach?

Lol, na chelsea fans make me hate am, na so one dey follow me drag say hazard dey top 10 for ballon d'or, say na the best dribbler for the world, I dey ask am for goals and assists he dey tell me dribble

Chelsea fans are so dull, chai!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:39pm On Apr 05, 2015
barackohandso:


See? You've mentioned that arsenal conceded 8,6,5 on 3 occasions now. How is it any different from what goes on in la liga? It can happen anywhere
E reach 9? Haba. Wen no be say the players no dey collect salary sad Well is only Arsenal dat they can beat anyhow lai dat grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:40pm On Apr 05, 2015
jodeer:
so wat is the beef.....am sure even the above stats of mata can be better than iniesta's, but that wont make him a better player than iniesta or cazorla.
Issok
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:46pm On Apr 05, 2015
dopeJemi:


Lol, na chelsea fans make me hate am, na so one dey follow me drag say hazard dey top 10 for ballon d'or, say na the best dribbler for the world, I dey ask am for goals and assists he dey tell me dribble

Chelsea fans are so dull, chai!
Lool. Arsenal fans are worse. They'll manage to win one match and then they'll start comparing their whole team with the whole world.
That was how one was ranting on twitter dat Giroud was better than Rooney. At dat point i almost started crying out of pity for his stupidity sad
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 8:47pm On Apr 05, 2015
coogar:


how did mata win it in his first season at chelsea abi na inside stamford bridge dem born mata? grin

all you hazard fans can make excuses, eh? grin
Am not shooting down Mata achievement to make Hazard look good it just not very common for player to be dominant immediately.
Still,only you will take Mata before hazard.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by dopeJemi: 8:51pm On Apr 05, 2015
SailorXY:
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you mean Eden Owolabi Festus Anamelechi Hazard has no chance @ the balon d'Or

No be for this world wey I dey
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 8:53pm On Apr 05, 2015
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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by ChristineC: 8:59pm On Apr 05, 2015
It actually surprises that Arsenal fans cough on Manchester United's thread embarassed
Is this not the same team that has as much trophies as the likes of Portsmouth in about 9 years cry
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by coogar: 9:01pm On Apr 05, 2015
SIRcumalot:

Am not shooting down Mata achievement to make Hazard look good it just not very common for player to be dominant immediately.

what about the 2nd season? did hazard win chelsea's player of the season last year? will he win it this year(3rd season) with costa, cesc & courtois as contenders?


Still,only you will take Mata before hazard.

i would have david silva & mata over hazard every day of the week. eden hazard is a highlight player who contributes far less than his headless chicken runs.

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