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Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 12:55am On Apr 14, 2015 |
tuffgongjo:Asinwin! You no see list abi na guinea-worm dey your eye? When ninjas were listing him behind Messi and Ronaldo una no talk. When I say he is not among top 20 una say I be hater. FOH dicksj93: I don't need to check for zilch! Hazard has done nothing to lay any claim to be one of the top 20 players in the world. If not for EPL hype how can a player that has not performed in any international competition for club and country be running for Balon D'or? In 3 years of Champions League football Hazard has only scored 2 goals from open play. FACT Hazard is good but massively OVERRATED. FACT |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 6:37am On Apr 14, 2015 |
A40:Fact? U cudnt find out d meanin of d three words ah gave u and u usin FACT?(a word u dnt knw wah it means).. |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by Nobody: 8:34am On Apr 14, 2015 |
A40: This is laughable. Firstly, you have to state the criterion/criteria you're using to churn out these names. You don't just drop the names of your favourite players and expect me to take you serious. Secondly, you don't expect me to take you serious when your list of the current top players in the world excludes FIFA and UEFA best XI starters like Sergio Ramos, Thiago Silva and Lahm. Thirdly, you don't expect me to take you serious when your list fails to identify the best players in their respective positions. David Alaba is unarguably the best left-back in the world, what a Joker like Boateng who isn't even the best in his position is doing in the list ahead of the Austrian is beyond me. Diego Costa have been better than Lewandowski on both the domestic and European scenes for the past two seasons, why is he not on the list? What have Griezmann and Reus done or achieved to make your list? If you're looking at current form then Memphis Depay, Harry Kane, Lacazette has to make the list of current top players. How on earth would a shrewd pundit consider Pogba ahead of Kroos and Modric in a listing of this sort? So my oga, this list is inconclusive, is bereft of objectivity and smears of bias. Get your stats right, Hazard isn't about flicks and dribbles, the lad backs up his skills exhibition with numbers. The Belgian grabbed 20 ligue 1 goals and 15 assists in his last season with Lille. Notched up 15 goals last season with Chelsea, which saw him finish as the second best player in England behind Suarez. This season, he has found the net 17 times and has provided 10 assists in all competitions. Hazard is hardly a forward, this is what you lot fail to realise. The lad plays primarily as an attacking midfielder and spends most of his minutes outside the box, so why would a shrewd pundit expect goals and goals from him? The likes of Silva, Ribery, Nasri, Ozil, Carzola, Di Maria etc are also attacking midfielders, please tell what are their stats saying compared to Eden's? You keep saying that we are the ones comparing him to Ronaldo and Messi, but then, that's a half-baked truth. The media, players and pundits across the globe are the ones mostly drawing up this comparison. Check up Hazard's wikipedia page to see what managers and players have got to say about him. Eden is an amazing footballer to watch and he deserves every accolade coming his way, just don't take it personal. 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by Krasid(m): 12:05pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
Ariani:Saying Hazard is the 3rd best player in the world is taking things a bit too far.Top 10 in the world would have been arguable but reasonable. |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 12:35pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
[quote author=Delaw135 post=32690475][/quote]This is the definition of OPINION |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 3:42pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
This is the definition of OPINION A40: |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 4:07pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
A40:THIS IS HATE!!!! If diz players were chelsea players n are praised by fans and hazard plays for another team,u will easily rate him above em all....bros talk tru |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 4:57pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
dicksj93:You dey craze! I have seen kids in creches that spell better than you yet you have the liver to tell me I don't understand the meaning of Facts dicksj93:Hate? It seems you are inebriated! Every single player I listed there has been better than Hazard! These are players that have dominated their league and did well in Europe unlike your local champion Hazard |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 5:59pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
AirborneLacer:Whether you choose to take me serious or not is the very least of my concern. I have listed these players based on their performances not just in domestic competitions but in Europe as well. Diego 'no goal no assists in the Champions League' Costa better than Lewandowski? Yes in La La Land maybe Thiago Silva has not been outstanding and you are relying on past rep. Ramos and Lahm would have made the list easily but they have suffered lengthy injuries this season Alaba no longer plays LB at Bayern these days since Bernat arrived. I would also have put him on my list but left him out so they don't say I'm biased towards Bayern If you are not aware of Boa-TANK's dominance at his position this year then you have not been paying attention. He is the most important player in our backline. A well-known fact in any Bayern forum atm AirborneLacer:Like I said my list is not based on local displays alone. I can't put Lacazette, Depay and Kane on my list because of goals they scored against Guingamp, Twente Enschede and QPR. I can make an exception for Kane but sorry the others don't cut it Its not even about who I left out its about me telling you there are a truckload of players better than Hazard. So the more players you add you are essentially doing my work for me AirborneLacer:Pogba has definitely outplayed Kroos and Modric this season. Kroos has been invisible since the New Year Modric has been out for a large chunk of the season. You are the one name dropping. I watch these leagues every week AirborneLacer:That is your opinion and you are entitled to it. Hazard is not among the top 20 players in the world as far as I am concerned. Shikena AirborneLacer:Ligue 1 was an inferior league at the time. So that is not saying much. If you take out the penalties from Hazard's 17 goals I wonder what we would have left Of all these numbers you are reeling out the only one that stands out to me is 3 years in the Champions League only 5 goals. Only 2 goals from OPEN PLAY for the so-called best player after Messi and Ronaldo this is too POOR AirborneLacer:Hazard is a forward primarily a LWF so leave this your story for tortoise. Pretty much every modern forward spends the majority of their minutes outside the box so this is not saying much tbh Nasri and Carzola? Please how are they elite Oezil, Ribery would always provide more assists than Hazard even in their sleep. Plus they are proven in International competition unlike Hazard! They are also not the designated penalty takers of their team. To put it into perspective Hazard has scored 60% of his goals from the penalty spot! Assuming he was not his side's designated kicker he would have scored 2 goals in 3 years of UCL football AirborneLacer:Its one thing to compare afterall Stanley Okoro and Marko Marin were also labeled the next Messi its another thing to pronounce megedefegede like Hazard is the 3rd best player after Messi and Ronaldo which I have only seen on NL. That is utter bollocks AirborneLacer:I have never said Hazard is not a good player. My point is he is Overrated and lacks the resume to compete with the absolute elite in the game |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 10:26pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
A40:ur degree of ignorance equals no measure really...read up doze bolded words n realize u need lessons from a creche pupil. It hurts to witness kids actin up on faceless forums just cus d tink its easy to get free or cheap internet dz days...well,mr daft,if u rili tink u know wat FACT means,am calling u out to bet ur money and i'l prove it to u dah hazard is beta dan a whole lot of players u named up dia...its a challenge ...dnt cum up wit an excuse to back out.......ur money against mine...maybe dah way u can shut d 4uck up... |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by Shadowbean(m): 10:38pm On Apr 14, 2015 |
The real spelling for ozil is deuntsch Oezil. Same way Gotze is goetze |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 12:31am On Apr 15, 2015 |
dicksj93:How does one explain this kind of illiteracy? You must be cursed it seems as it is only an asiwere that can understand this prattle you just typed. You type like a Bariga olosho How can you prove Hazard is better? Better yet how can a stark illiterate like you challenge me to anything? Go and use your decimals to enrol for night classes you blathering idiöt |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 12:34am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Shadowbean:Don't mind the asinwin. He is about as articulate as the Tasmanian devil |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by homesteady(m): 3:57am On Apr 15, 2015 |
They both play the same wing, just that Chelsea fans give the excuse that - Hazard plays more like an attacking midfielder! Story for the gods! They are both wingers and they both cut from the left to the right like the median nerve! One scores more goals and is always a goal threat whenever he is with the ball, while the other ------- ermmm...... he just dribbles and dribbles! Besides Brazil used the same formation Chelsea uses, and Neymar played exactly the same wing as Hazard, and yet oh yet, Neymar was one of the best players in the worldcup! while hazard was the worst! But on a serious note, they are both good players, but Neymar offers better services! He can unsettle a defence in split seconds, while it takes Hazard forever! Hazard is just a ball clinger! Against a side with top defense, Neymar is more valuable than Hazard - using PSG and Atletico Madrid games as an example, Hazard was shiit against this two sides, but Neymar was superhuman against them! Thanks! 4 Likes |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 7:15am On Apr 15, 2015 |
A40:keep bitin urself,diickhead..u understood wah ah typed n u replied em...which makes u dah only ASIWERE dah can understand wah i type. And stop questionin me,Akamu...bet me,if i prove him bera dan some people u v gat up dia,I WIN....tryna teach ur confused brain wah fact means n make sure it costs u...so wen next u cum on a faceless forum as diz to cal names n express ur biased opinions den u wil realize u can stil get hurt.Bet me if u r sure of dah list |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 7:41am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Shadowbean:ozil? Hmm..ah dnt knw abt dah...onli knw its written wit two dots on d "o" |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by M14A1: 8:14am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Nigerians and mediocrity, of all the mad soccer players on earth atm, someone is rating hazard 3rd best in the world |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 9:27am On Apr 15, 2015 |
M14A1:hommie,hazard is gud, not 3rd maybe not fourth maybe not beta dan neymar maybe....buh dah guy listing all doze players above him lyk ryt now? Mehn,dah represents a higher mediocrity level dan rating hazard 3rd best |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by Destiny4fame(m): 11:10am On Apr 15, 2015 |
Dis is getting hotter oooo.....dnt U guys tink we kud get beta stats abt dis topic if moved to front page? |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by Delaw135: 11:53am On Apr 15, 2015 |
homesteady:if u are judging hazard base on this ,u need to consider how chelsea plays as a team when faced better opponets,chelsea always play defensive game against better team and wait for counter attack to penetrate. do you think neymar will perform better in this condition? even he has once criticised this game plan undet mourinho. |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by homesteady(m): 5:32pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
Delaw135:Neymar will still fare better than how hazard is faring! Neymar is a better counter-attack player than Hazard! Neymar has more flare! |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 7:18pm On Apr 15, 2015 |
dicksj93:You need deliverance from the legion of demons dancing sekem in your head. Sergio Ignoramus You cannot even spell the simplest of words but you want to teach someone English. Anyone reading your post can tell you did not have up to 2 years of basic education. That I choose to reply you doesn't make you any less of a lunatic afterall during your stay in Aro it was sane people that administered your treatment See this empty barrel you want to bet? Loool! Have you eaten today? Nwanne abeg comot for my circumference you reek of poverty! Both physical and mental |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by oprajo(m): 12:58am On Apr 16, 2015 |
in football when you want to compare players there are criteria we use. saying a player is better than another player simply because he played well in world cup isn't enough . The best players are chosen based on the present form and season. if it is based on past tense then the best player will always be pele or Maradona. The criteria we should use are 1) statistics most people think the only stats in football are goals and assists. there are other stats such as successful dribbles, shots , chances created e.t.c 2) ability there are different abilities and abilities can be seen in statistics 3) form 1 Like |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 6:48am On Apr 16, 2015 |
A40:maturity is rili a no no for dz being......!!!dnt expect me to cum on hia n trade words witcha over nafin...u dnt reek of poverty...huh?nwanne weputa nu ego...mpama(bring money cum bet) n stop provin u v gat a feminine brain in a masculine body |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 6:51am On Apr 16, 2015 |
oprajo:dats wah sum ppl fail to understand.... D fact dah song might have more premier league goals dan makelele n d both player in same position doesnt make song beta dan makelele... |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by homesteady(m): 6:58am On Apr 16, 2015 |
who watched Neymar yesterday? |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by Greatihex(m): 4:09pm On Apr 16, 2015 |
A40:voting that is done wt sentiments. Imagine Argentina coach saying that he wl always vote for messi evry yr. |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 4:54pm On Apr 16, 2015 |
dicksj93:My friend shut your sewer trap of a mouth. If you are so desperate for money better go and grab a gat and stop being a nuisance out here. Illiterate |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 10:45pm On Apr 16, 2015 |
A40:up next...hazard 4 PFA player of d year award ...how do u lyk dah,hater? |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by A40(m): 11:21pm On Apr 16, 2015 |
dicksj93:He's a local champion we all know that Efulefu |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by dicksj93: 7:18am On Apr 17, 2015 |
A40:Thomas Mueller Manuel Neuer Neymar Karim Benzema Robert Lewandowski Marco Reus Kevin De Bruyne Mario Goetze Jerome Boa-TANK Antoine Griezmann Paul Pogba Sergio Aguero Javi Mascherano Alexis Sanchez Wake me up wen dz ones become local champions 2 Likes |
Re: Eden Hazard And Neymar Jnr...who Is Better? by ClintonNzedimma(m): 9:51am On Apr 17, 2015 |
dicksj93:keep justifying mediocrity, for your info, no english team is in the champions league. |
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