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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 5:37pm On Apr 14, 2015
Of course parts of the bible is sexist and parts of it encourage violence.
Parts of it encourage inhuman treatment to others because they don't believe in the God of the Israelites
But is that christ's teaching?
No.

Any Christian who thinks the whole bible is a guide for a true Christian life will do things that can't let him/her sleep at night.


babygirlfl:


I personally think the bible is sexist and places the man higher than the woman but I totally understand what you mean and I am open to learn more from you.

Yes people use any part of the bible to suit and justify their wrong doings and define what is sin and what is not and yes sometimes I wonder if we all read the same bible with some peoples bible supporting a man who cheats. It's so acceptable that a christian defined adultery as a woman cheating and not a man cheating. I was so surprised that day.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 5:38pm On Apr 14, 2015
BABE3:


all his 12 disciples were men though. Coincidence? grin
jesus had female disciples/apostles.
I don't want to go into all that.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 5:39pm On Apr 14, 2015
TV01:


No, I absolutely care about children being the father of 2 lovely ones. No one is shutting anyone up. State the case for legitimising homosexuality, normalising it, and embedding it into the culture. There is simply no case. I will rebutt any case you try to make point for point- with no fuss. Keep calling me a closet gay or secret pedo all you want cool.

Dude stop equating homosexuality with pedophilia, it's tiring. Child abuse is, I think we can agree on, wrong. Regardless of who does it to children.

Legitimising homosexuality? Let me see. For one, most of the civilized world respecting human rights moved on. Homosexuality isn't harming anyone, and legitimizing it doesn't really increase sexual abuse cases because plain, abusers aren't by majority homosexuals.

And in fact, I wasn't calling you either of these. I was just saying it's a thing each should consider on their own when being so strongly against at least one of those issues (homosexuality, the pedophilia is I think we can agree a different basket of fruits.)

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by coogar: 5:45pm On Apr 14, 2015
BlackLeopard:

Dude stop equating homosexuality with pedophilia, it's tiring. Child abuse is, I think we can agree on, wrong. Regardless of who does it to children.

pedophilia & homoerötica are all subsets of sex deviance. colour it how you like, homosexuality is a sexual deviance. this is why heterosex folks are called straight & the other types deviate from the normal type of sex.


Legitimising homosexuality? Let me see. For one, most of the civilized world respecting human rights moved on. Homosexuality isn't harming anyone, and legitimizing it doesn't really increase sexual abuse cases because plain, abusers aren't by majority homosexuals.

at a point in human history, the entire civilised world legitimised....

•slavery
•colonial rule
•capital punishment
•corporal punishment
etc.

just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. homosexuality harms everyone....it has the highest risk of spreading the incurable HIV infection.


And in fact, I wasn't calling you either of these. I was just saying it's a thing each should consider on their own when being so strongly against at least one of those issues (homosexuality, the pedophilia is I think we can agree a different basket of fruits.)

both homosexuality & pedophilia are wrong.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by crackhaus: 5:47pm On Apr 14, 2015
Vickybee:

grin
grin
grin

Makes me remember a thread where Crackhaus was supporting an adulterous grandpa and got 9likes from his ilks. grin
LOL.. easy now princess.

I simply didn't see what the fuss was about if a grandpa still wants to get his freak on.
Would it be better I judged him and ended up breaking the 'judge not' commandment? grin

You need to understand that feminism and Christianity are like two parallel lines, never the twain shall meet... - especially when it comes to marriage and leadership.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Pdizzle(m): 5:49pm On Apr 14, 2015
cococandy:
jesus had female disciples/apostles.
I don't want to go into all that.

Jesus had female disciples/apostles, please go into it. And meanwhile explain 1st Cor. 14:34

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BABE3: 5:50pm On Apr 14, 2015
cococandy:
jesus had female disciples/apostles.
I don't want to go into all that.

please do. In that same bible? cheesy I'm not talking about the ones that came after his death.

I'm talking about hand-picked disciples. The ones he chose himself.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by bukatyne(f): 5:50pm On Apr 14, 2015
BABE3:


can you address the 12 MALE disciples situation? grin why Mathew and Markk? Why not a Vickybee and Bukatyne?

and you do realize the creation of woman was an afterthought? "It's not cool for a man to be alone, let's make someome that looks like him out of his rib". cheesy

if God was a feminist he would have created adam and eve in the same second.


I know it's hard for a modern day Christian to accept the fact that God and jesus are sexist. So you try your best possible to manipulate and twist facts until you're comfortable with your lies.

The hierarchy in the bible from genesis to revelation is
--MAN
--woman
-- animals

even in.marraige
- jesus
-husband
-wife
-kids

Em let's cut the rude remarks.

Jesus had 12 male disciples and a number of female ones like Mary, Susannah, Johanna etc. Some married.

Jesus was a single male and common sense dictated that his close allies were male So as not to ruin his testimony. We would not want rumors of immorality amongst the disciples.

Mary was not So close with Jesus yet There are schools of thought that Mary was Jesus' wife.

The hierarchy is only in marriage. In non-martial relationships, people were related to accordingly or through a mediator (priest).

Eve was not an afterthought. Read Gen 1:26-28.

Eve was formed from Adam's ribs to show the symbolic oneness marriage brings.

Adam called Eve 'woman' because she is the bone of his bone and the flesh of his flesh. Not because she was beneath him.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by TV01(m): 5:52pm On Apr 14, 2015
cococandy:
Of course parts of the bible is sexist and parts of it encourage violence.
Parts of it encourage inhuman treatment to others because rescripthey don't believe in the God of the Israelites
But is that christ's teaching?
No.

Any Christian who thinks the whole bible is a guide for a true Christian life will do things that can't let him/her sleep at night.
Precisely right and well stated.

However, some parts that are prescriptive jar with some feminist notions. Headship in the home and church for one. Things like abortion for a second.

Equal opportunities and access for all - parking the above/obvious exceptions - is certainly agreed upon, but to call that feminism is a stretch, as that is not about women, but about all.

And in most countries there is little, if any, structural discrimination against women.


TV

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by bukatyne(f): 5:53pm On Apr 14, 2015
pickabeau1:


Can you share what you learned?
What does headship mean in marriage Christian wise

My post you quoted was What I learnt.
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by lezz(m): 5:54pm On Apr 14, 2015
5minsmadness:

This is rhema right here. I never thought of it like that before. This is very deep.
It is very deep and worrisome. This is actually satan's first attempt at usurping authority and giving power to women. His short term goal is to distrupt the family unit. When wives become insurbodinate to their husbands, children lose all sense of discipline and the family unit breaks down.

The long term goal is to distrupt human society and promote no sense of hierrarchy, loyalty, authority and order. So he seeks the financial and economic empowerment of women to make them independent of thier husbands amd the children follow eventually.

It is why feminist loby for control and not equality. they wamt to occupy the top and at the same time deny the representation of the lower spectrum of society where men alsp dominate.

It has been observed that most teen pregnancy occurs in single mother -daughter relationship.

also when a wife disrespects the husband, the children also disrespect her leading into the chaos and breakdown of the family unit which eventually spills into the larger society.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 5:54pm On Apr 14, 2015
At the risk of being redundant and saying something that must have been said a million time over again,
Feminists do not care and are not concerned about who's wearing the pant in another's relationship.

Making it about domestic squabbles very much belittles the whole ideology in my opinion.
And that is because with or without feminism, because humans aren't the same and temperaments differ, you will always have couples where the male is the passive partner or the female is the aggressive partner even when she claims to be non-feminist.

pickabeau1:


Can you school your fellow feminazis on this that bring bible to justify feminism? undecided

That people commit adultery and profess to be Christians is not the issue here

We are talking about the equality vs the concept of male headship in marriage

cococandy
Treating others as you want to be treated is a divine principle but still does not negate headship in marriage

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by coogar: 5:55pm On Apr 14, 2015
BABE3:

don't mind these people trying to paint jesus as a feminist. grin every single man then was sexist. It wasn't a sin or crime. The woman's place was in the kitchen. That was the modus operandi.

Jesus never fought for their rights throughout. a woman couldn't even go to the temple during her menstrual flow. she's deemed unclean. a woman couldn't teach or preach the scriptures. her role then was to breed & groom kids.


Jesus was NOT a feminist! I read somewhere that jesus is the unchangeable changer. So therefore, the feminist wave didn't affect jesus or God. He still isn't a feminist! cheesy He's still very much sexist.

how can Jesus be a feminist when He's not a flaming hypocrite? one must be hypocritical & 2-faced to be a feminist. feminism condemns men who choose how their women should live.

so who gave feminists the right to choose how fellow women should live? some women don't want to be equal to their men. they like the role of being 2nd in command and they want their husband to rule them absolutely.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BlackLeopard(m): 5:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:


pedophilia & homoerötica are all subsets of sex deviance. colour it how you like, homosexuality is a sexual deviance. this is why heterosex folks are called straight & the other types deviate from the normal type of sex.

Actually, the sacred geometry, that of a DNA, is double helix. Straight is a line of heartbeat when a person dies wink
This is whole just language and not telling anything about normalcy, and when you break it down deeper to biology, it wouldn't even work.

coogar:


just because something is legal doesn't mean it's right. homosexuality harms everyone....it has the highest risk of spreading the incurable HIV infection.
And just because something is not legal doesn't mean it should be, only that people didn't move to that stage of understanding, yet. And you're wrong, because HIV broke out greatly due to infidelous straight people and also medical negligence of straight medical community while treating their patients. If we want to get technical. Gay communities are rather aware of the risks, and the reputation you're citing, and are rather paranoid about their health, last I knew. So the risk of spreading diseases is decreased. Who bleeps around are straights.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by crackhaus: 5:56pm On Apr 14, 2015
Shollypopzz:


@highlighted: When you get that specific, I can't be sure. Especially when I am not even certain God exists. What I do know, is that the bible and the Christian religion preaches sexism........
But I also give recognize that Christianity played a role in the liberation of women.

Actually, there is a new breed of Christians. The ones that consider themselves the logical Christian. They believe logic and faith can be intertwined, they believe in Evolution, they consider stories like the Noah's ark, and Adam and Eve to be fake.

Me?? I believe nothing. I am open to everything, I am pretty much indecisive when it comes to spirituality.
Logic and faith are two words that should not be used in the same sentence.

You're not certain God exists?
So what are you certain of?

Don't be indecisive when it comes to spirituality, humans are innately spiritual beings. wink

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 5:57pm On Apr 14, 2015
TV01:

Precisely right and well stated.

However, some parts that are prescriptive jar with some feminist notions. Headship in the home and church for one. Things like abortion for a second.

Equal opportunities and access for all - parking the above/obvious exceptions - is certainly agreed upon, but to call that feminism is a stretch, as that is not about women, but about all.

And in most countries there is little, if any, structural discrimination against women.



TV
@bold, all thanks to feminists.

Even little is too bad And the few remaining countries where women are still in chains will keep breathing the air of feminism blowing their way until they are liberated. grin

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by crackhaus: 5:59pm On Apr 14, 2015
5minsmadness:

Bro, I duff my hat. Excellent post.
Thanks man.
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BABE3: 5:59pm On Apr 14, 2015
bukatyne:


Em let's cut the rude remarks.

Jesus had 12 male disciples and a number of female ones like Mary, Susannah, Johanna etc. Some married.

Jesus was a single male and common sense dictated that his close allies were male So as not to ruin his testimony. We would not want rumors of immorality amongst the disciples.

Mary was not So close with Jesus yet There are schools of thought that Mary was Jesus' wife.

The hierarchy is only in marriage . In non-martial relationships, people were related to accordingly or through a mediator (priest).

Eve was not an afterthought. Read Gen 1:26-28.

Eve was formed from Adam's ribs to show the symbolic oneness marriage brings.

Adam called Eve 'woman' because she is the bone of his bone and the flesh of his flesh. Not because she was beneath him.

it's not only johanna.. Beyoncé nko? grin

We'll take this debate to the religion section later. Too many points to dissect.

My question is short and sweet, even in marraige, why did he make man the head??
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Stillfire: 6:00pm On Apr 14, 2015
What's the argument again? Someone should fill me in? cool I keep on seeing Jesus, Jesus (in Igbo accent) everywhere. cool

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by bukatyne(f): 6:02pm On Apr 14, 2015
@babygirlfl,

The Bible is not sexist. It took me years to get to This point too.

I could cope more with sexist men than a sexist God. I mean the men met it (can't fault them), But the person that actually put me There and then claims to love me?

Tuah!

Read and studied and put everything in context.

P.S.: I do not use KJV though. I use NLT.
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BABE3: 6:02pm On Apr 14, 2015
Stillfire:
What's the argument again? Someone should fill me in? cool I keep on seeing Jesus, Jesus (in Igbo accent) everywhere. cool

is/was jesus a feminist ? grin
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 6:03pm On Apr 14, 2015
Stillfire:
What's the argument again? Someone should fill me in? cool I keep on seeing Jesus, Jesus (in Igbo accent) everywhere. cool
grin grin

Women are not happy. That's the argument

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by bukatyne(f): 6:03pm On Apr 14, 2015
BABE3:


it's not only johanna.. Beyoncé nko? grin

We'll take this debate to the religion section later. Too many points to dissect.

My question is short and sweet, even in marraige, why did he make man the head??

When you are ready, give me a mention.
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by coogar: 6:03pm On Apr 14, 2015
BlackLeopard:

Actually, the sacred geometry, that of a DNA, is double helix. Straight is a line of heartbeat when a person dies winkThis is whole just language and not telling anything about normalcy, and when you break it down deeper to biology, it wouldn't even work.

this is pure baloney!
i am talking about sexuality here, not the geometry of the DNA.


And just because something is not legal doesn't mean it should be, only that people didn't move to that stage of understanding, yet.

using the technical term consent as a crutch to justify homosexuality is highly flawed. i have given you an incest scenario where 2 siblings of adult age consented to have protected sex. is that moral?


And you're wrong, because HIV broke out greatly due to infidelous straight people and also medical negligence of straight medical community while treating their patience. If we want to get technical. Gay communities are rather aware of the risks, and the reputation you're citing, and are rather paranoid about their health, last I knew. So the risk of spreading diseases is decreased. Who bleeps around are straights.

gay communities are aware of the risks but then why should we assume all of them are law abiding. faggöts have an uncanny ability to be violent. the top 6 serial killers in the USA are faggòts......now in the case of rapë, condoms don't even come into play - they are the major reason HIV has spread to every continent on the planet.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by bukatyne(f): 6:04pm On Apr 14, 2015
cococandy:
grin grin

Women are not happy. That's the argument

Because they are climbing the corporate ladder. Add that cheesy
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BABE3: 6:05pm On Apr 14, 2015
bukatyne:


When you are ready, give me a mention.

I dey ready for this bit.

Why did he make man the head in marraige? If God or jesus isn't sexist, why is there a head in marraige and why is he a man?
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by pickabeau1: 6:06pm On Apr 14, 2015
cococandy:
At the risk of being redundant and saying something that must have been said a million time over again,
Feminists do not care and are not concerned about who's wearing the pant in another's relationship.
Making it about domestic squabbles very much belittles the whole ideology in my opinion.
And that is because with or without feminism, because humans aren't the same and temperaments differ, you will always have couples where the male is the passive partner or the female is the aggressive partner even when she claims to be non-feminist.

And as much as you really say
The domestic arena is actually the genesis of the issue and that is why it always goes there

In the US as you know, sharing of domestic duties especially where the female is working is still on the front burner
Decisions on whether to keep a child or abort emanate from the home
Decisions on a woman to stay at home or enter the workforce are real issues - home issues

Saying that feminism is divorced of the domestic arena is actually not seeing the full picture

The fact you say you say it over and over does not make it less of an issue.



bukatyne:


My post you quoted was What I learnt.
In your post? grin
I saw nothing of the sort
If you don't want to explain,,, no need to speak cryptically
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by pickabeau1: 6:09pm On Apr 14, 2015
lezz:
It is very deep and worrisome. This is actually satan's first attempt at usurping authority and giving power to women. His short term goal is to distrupt the family unit. When wives become insurbodinate to their husbands, children lose all sense of discipline and the family unit breaks down.

The long term goal is to distrupt human society and promote no sense of hierrarchy, loyalty, authority and order. So he seeks the financial and economic empowerment of women to make them independent of thier husbands amd the children follow eventually.

It is why feminist loby for control and not equality. they wamt to occupy the top and at the same time deny the representation of the lower spectrum of society where men alsp dominate.

It has been observed that most teen pregnancy occurs in single mother -daughter relationship.

also when a wife disrespects the husband, the children also disrespect her leading into the chaos and breakdown of the family unit which eventually spills into the larger society.

Simple script

Destroy the home.. Destroy the nation

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by Stillfire: 6:10pm On Apr 14, 2015
BABE3:


is/was jesus a feminist ? grin

Jesus was for equal opportunity. He told us to treat ourselves as one, love your neighbor as yourself, no be equality be that? kiss, so yes He was and is a feminist. tongue grin

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 6:10pm On Apr 14, 2015
bukatyne:


Because they are climbing the corporate ladder. Add that cheesy
yea. We are unhappy because we now have opportunities to further careers as against being in the kitchen and labor room which is what makes a real woman truly happy grin
Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by cococandy(f): 6:11pm On Apr 14, 2015
pickabeau1:


Simple script

Destroy the home.. Destroy the nation
conspiracy theorist.

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Re: Why The Modern Woman Is Sad by BABE3: 6:11pm On Apr 14, 2015
coogar:


Jesus never fought for their rights throughout. a woman couldn't even go to the temple during her menstrual flow. she's deemed unclean. a woman couldn't teach or preach the scriptures. her role then was to breed & groom kids.



how can Jesus be a feminist when He's not a flaming hypocrite? one must be hypocritical & 2-faced to be a feminist. feminism condemns men who choose how their women should live.

so who gave feminists the right to choose how fellow women should live? some women don't want to be equal to their men. they like the role of being 2nd in command and they want their husband to rule them absolutely.


Abi o? Not once in the bible did jesus, peter and paul carry placards to demonstrate. grin
If jesus was not okay with the gender status quo then, won't he have said or done something---- something miraculous? grin
not once did jesus say the woman's place is not in the kitchen. lipsrsealed

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