cococandy:
Ok there are moral and ceremonial laws in the bible.

I specifically referenced the OT

cococandy:

What's immoral about a woman teaching in the church? We agree it is one the ceremonial laws that's based on culture.

It may happen contextually, but it's men that should generally lead - and no, we don't agree, not least because it's in the NT

cococandy:

Thank you.

You are always welcome. We once discussed and I suggested you read and get to know the bible for yourself. Be that because you want to understand it or engage in debate about it's content. Reverb.

cococandy:

You just helped me make my point.

You didn't actually make one.

cococandy:

As for your other points, at the risk of sounding like I'm insulting you, I will say that is naive. No offense.

None taken


@BlackLeopard, your pathetic, plaintive, whiney, mewling - and as someone mentioned "insincere" - post was noted. I like to respond as far as possible, but you don't desrve a whole post for that


TV

Vickybee:
How was David rebellious? Everyone can be forgiven if he/she repent just like Mary Magadalene who was loved by Jesus and she with other women saw the open tomb first.

Churches are referred as SHE.
Jerusalem was referred as SHE.

I guess God is a misandry? Mtcheew

Lol... keep calm and don't be so angry, you wouldn't want wrinkles messing up your pretty face.

So what has churches or Jerusalem being referred to as SHE, got to do with this?

You must have missed Elementary English classes, and I'm now sure you might actually be really dumb or just pretending to be for sake of dragging this because you can't accept being tutored.
So you're telling me you don't know that the pronoun 'she' can be used to refer to non-living entities huh?
I'm ashamed for you, truly and genuinely...


David was a rebel, unless you don't know what a rebel is...that he was forgiven countless times after being rebellious does not make him any less of a rebel, get it?

This thread ehn?

Ewuro4:
This thread ehn?

As in en?

TV01:

If you can't take the heat or haven't the appetite for the fight, simply bounce (Shollypopz does that so well ). Pick your battles - count the cost as the bible would say. All you've done is introduce rancour into the thread - Todays lesson.

LMAO, just saw this post. The irony!

Am back!
I see you guys are still at it
Wait make I go catch-up

Shollypopzz:


Bwahahahahahahahaha! What do you call a r*etard that is convinced he has a brain?? Your parents wouldn't happen to be siblings, would they?

The terrifying power of the human sex drive is horrifically demonstrated by the fact that someone was willing to father you. If you were any more stupid, we'd have to water you twice a week. It's unbelievable that a mistake of nature like you is being seen on a social network displaying excessive amounts of compounding 1diocy and deterring stup1dity.

I am yet to see a dreg of the society like you, with stupidity so enormous, it will wake a dead man up. It must be inherent. Stupidity lives and breeds in you, you unreservedly pathetic LUNATIC. How am I to know you weren't aware of your lunacy? You are so undeniably stup1d, your stup1dity is exceeded only by your obnoxiousness.
Your dumb utterance, speaks loudly of a larger psychological dysfunction of your state of psychiatry. I know it sucks being you, but there's hope for deluded sycophant like you. Don't take that pill yet, that will hit you to oblivion and reduce the burden of which you are to both living and non-living things.
You know what?? I change my mind! There is a tree tirelessly producing oxygen for you, I believe you owe that tree an apology by chocking on your own stupidity.

You expect me to waste my intellect countering the myopic pieces of dog sh1t you called an opinion?? I am dumbfounded, letting your kind live should be a medical malpractice.
LUNATICS like u deserve to be chopped off, cremated, and ur ashes used for rituals. I wonder why the the puke-drooling, giggling beasts that sired you didn't just kill you. What a pure dim-wit!

Thanks for taking the bait.

but you should't speak to someone this disrespectfully, especially when i could well be YOUR FATHER, considering your mother's social history:

you are a daughter of a thousand fathers, yes i had to stay in line for my turn .

that is why you're a half-breed dog always in primitive heat. when you aren't spreadin your legs, you're self-loathing, sqealing like tormented pig.

My male dog would be considered unclean if it were to come within 6 cubic feet of you.

you are inferior to it in breeding

and by training. your unresolved gender identity crisis has morphed you intovnature's reject. your conception is a waste of energy and your mother's infectious vagiïnaà secretions.

you should climb into your coffin,
posterity wont remember you,

society wont blink,

your family wont notice
the world would just be better off with one less she-man.

English is sexist.
Rubbish!
Mary was revered.
Mary Magdalene was revered.
Sarah was revered.
Queen Esther was revered.
Apollo and Priscilla were revered.





I'm still a feminist.

Why do some of these useless men mention vägina while having a bout with a female.
Boring line and it goes to show how many infectious ones you have smelt.

lezz:
Thanks for taking the bait.

but you should't speak to someone this disrespectfully, especially when i could well be YOUR FATHER, considering your mother's social history:

you are a daughter of a thousand fathers, yes i had to stay in line for my turn .

that is why you're a half-breed dog always in primitive heat. when you aren't spreadin your legs, you're self-loathing, sqealing like tormented pig.

My male dog would be considered unclean if it were to come within 6 cubic feet of you.

you are inferior to it in breeding
and by training. your unresolved gender identity crisis, you are nature's reject. the very infectious vagiïnaä secretion

The fact that your long a*ss post was suppose to be a bait is only proving my point

See, it's not rocket science that you're dense, a nincompoop and more clueless than a termite in need of a brain transplant. Your IQ level is clearly lower than your shoe size, you green-nostrilled, old-pot-bellied-flap- mouthed-door mat!

Do you really think you could insult me with that one lonely brain cell of yours?? Is it my fault you are operating with a Pentium 0 in a windows 8 world?? How dare you be offended that you would be mistaken for a lunatic after writing something so insane?

You are not even half as smart as the fools I have clowned on here, I am your God. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. A living emptiness, a meaningless void and a boggish drooling half-twit that will die from his own foolishness.
A repulsive and offensive nonentity like you attempting to sound intelligent is beyond the 7 wonders of the world. Dolts and unproductive cankerworms like u deserve to be tied to a stake and burnt alive. You are a curse on mother nature, a malformity, a void and blank object with no usefulness other than to serve as entertainment and mockery to a discerning few.

I would say you're a disgrace to humanity but you're not even a human, your birth certificate is a letter of apology from the abortion clinic. I need to trace your bloodline and terminate all siblings and cousins in order to cleanse the world of your polluted genes.
Are you that delusional to think your ill-thought out shit droppings were to be considered smart??

You can't convince me that you're sane, so stop trying.

Chillisauce:
Wow, FrancisTony and blackleopard. Who are you guys

Yall sure you are Nigerians

I dontbelieve.

And who are YOU, if you can't tell two colors together? Green and white aren't that difficult. Maybe you need help with that, and think about what you're going to say before you say it while your eyes are getting a fix, because there was still no addressing any point of what I said about biology. Which still wasn't my opinions about things, but opinions based in several sciences. As opposed to uneducated interpretations of religions people here pull and their own similarly well informed so called 'opinions'.

BlackLeopard:


And who are YOU, if you can't tell two colors together? Green and white aren't that difficult. Maybe you need help with that, and think about what you're going to say before you say it while your eyes are getting a fix, because there was still no addressing any point of what I said about biology. Which still wasn't my opinions about things, but opinions based in several sciences. As opposed to uneducated interpretations of religions people here pull and their own similarly well informed so called 'opinions'.

Please edit your post, she meant that as a compliment.

Shollypopzz:


Please edit your post, she meant that as a compliment.

A-okay and thank you for letting me know, I entirely missed that point. I will get the glasses for closer reading I suggested to her for myself then, seems I'm in need of them.

Don't tend to edit posts, once said word stays, but here's apology to @Chillisauce for misreading you.

BlackLeopard:

A-okay and thank you for letting me know, I entirely missed that point. I will get the glasses for closer reading I suggested to her for myself then, seems I'm in need of them.

Don't tend to edit posts, once said word stays, but here's apology to @Chillisauce for misreading you.

you are so daft.....

^^
Fight just dey hungry this one.
Frustrated men

coogar:


and the christian women who have no access do such or who are poor to afford such should do what?

When did you start caring about women? Fraudulent sympathy is all I smell here.

this isn't a curse placed by a witchdoctor or a herbalist. it's a divine curse by God for the consequences of the disobedience in heaven. the sins of thy father shall be revisited on thy 7th generation.

Huh, even Cain negotiated with God on his punishment, how much more today that we have Jesus Christ. We are in a dispensation of grace, mercy, forgiveness and repentance, and we are NO MORE responsible for the sins of our fathers. Coogar better go back to bible class.

God's original plan isn't an option.
even virgin mary nearly died in bethlehem while giving birth to christ. she screamed & grunted cos she had to serve the punishment placed on women by God.

The original plan stands firm in this discussion and it is an option. God has given us choices and I choose to return to the original plan of God!

Vickybee:
^^
Fight just dey hungry this one.
Frustrated men

thunder fire your weave on!
aproka!

Stillfire:

When did you start caring about women? Fraudulent sympathy is all I smell here.

sister sara is a woman & i care a lot for her.

Huh, even Cain negotiated with God on his punishment, how much more today that we have Jesus Christ. We are in a dispensation of grace, mercy, forgiveness and repentance, and we are NO MORE responsible for the sins of our fathers. Coogar better go back to bible class.

cain the vagabond negotiated what?
the only good deal we are getting is the promise of paradise. the suffering during childbirth on earth remains constant for every woman. there's no escaping it!

The original plan stands firm in this discussion and it is an option. God has given us choices and I choose to return to the original plan of God!

you are still choosing to return?
when you have finally chosen to return...get pregnant & go to the village. when it's time for you to deliver, record a video of yourself and let's see how easy it is for you to pussssssh!

A-okay and thank you for letting me know, I entirely missed that point. I will get the glasses for closer reading I suggested to her for myself then, seems I'm in need of them.
Don't tend to edit posts, once said word stays,
but here's apology to @Chilli sauce for misreading
you.

Oh heavens, I just can't...



I honestly can't!

5minsmadness:

Even in heaven there is heirarchy.
God is not equal with his angels. he comes first and His Word is Law.
Then there are the cherubim and seraphim, higher angels that stand in the holy of holies
then there are the principalities and powers in high places
then we have arch angels, guardian angels, messenger angels, etc.

Heirarchy.

Preach to the public you mean, right? Not in the church.

Rubbish! In your spare time, go and shoot those female pastors running churches for daring to preach, you hear.
The need for superiority in you men is a devilish attitude that christianity needs to deal with.
If God's original intention was to create hierarchy on earth, why then did He make this a curse to the woman

Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.

Stillfire:


Rubbish! In your spare time, go and shoot those female pastors running churches for daring to preach, you hear.
The need for superiority in you men is a devilish attitude that christianity needs to deal with.
If God's original intention was to create hierarchy on earth, why then did He make this a curse to the woman

Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.

so you actually agree God cursed the woman to serve her husband? at no point was this curse removed by Jesus. even mary went through excruciating pangs of pain in a donkey stable. her screams was heard by the 3 wise men from the middle east. that was how they were able to locate her.

coogar:


thunder fire your weave on!
aproka!



sister sara is a woman & i care a lot for her.



cain the vagabond negotiated what?
the only good deal we are getting is the promise of paradise. the suffering during childbirth on earth remains constant for every woman. there's no escaping it!



you are still choosing to return?
when you have finally chosen to return...get pregnant & go to the village. when it's time for you to deliver, record a video of yourself and let's see how easy it is for you to pussssssh!

God also gave humans the wisdom to make life easy for us through modern technology. It has made it possible that what we want to eat is just a click away, all of us don't have to do the farming and tilling of soil, going by the curses to the man. So also modern technology have provided me with epidural and anesthetics. Yeah, I will indeed send you a video where I will be lounging and sipping cocktails while giving birth. Curse has been liftedddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boohoo.

coogar:


so you actually agree God cursed the woman to serve her husband? at no point was this curse removed by Jesus. even mary went through excruciating pangs of pain in a donkey stable. her screams was heard by the 3 wise men from the middle east. that was how they were able to locate her.

So you agree there was NO hierarchy in the garden prior to the curse? Because to curse someone means to take away privileges.
That means the husband was NOT SUPPOSED TO RULE OVER THE WOMAN! Bulls eye!

BlackLeopard:


A-okay and thank you for letting me know, I entirely missed that point. I will get the glasses for closer reading I suggested to her for myself then, seems I'm in need of them.

Don't tend to edit posts, once said word stays, but here's apology to @Chillisauce for misreading you.

Chillisauce, no vex.

BTW, rabid spider monkeys deserve no response

@Vickybee: I'm still very much around; just decided to cool down

Stillfire:

God also gave humans the wisdom to make life easy for us through modern technology. It has made it possible that what we want to eat is just a click away, all of us don't have to do the farming and tilling of soil, going by the curses to the man.

the tilling of the soil is a figurative speech - we all must work to eat. people are out there doing 9-5. it's the equivalent of tilling the soil.

however, the labour pain is as real as it gets.
500,000 women die in nigeria every year as a result of pregnancy complications according to
WHO. surely, no curse has been lifted.

So also modern technology have provided me with epidural and anesthetics. Yeah, I will indeed send you a video where I will be lounging and sipping cocktails while giving birth. Curse has been liftedddddddddddddddddddddddddddd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Boohoo.

sipping cocktails?
the only thing you would be sipping is oxygen gas to reduce the pains. you dunno what you are dealing with.

Stillfire:

So you agree there was NO hierarchy in the garden prior to the curse? Because to curse someone means to take away privileges.
That means the husband was NOT SUPPOSED TO RULE OVER THE WOMAN! Bulls eye!

possibly....
however, one could argue adam would always be superior as he was made from sand while eve was made from adam. they did not come from the same source.

there are too many things that weren't in God's plan. we are not supposed to wear clothes too.....that curse still remains. Jesus only managed to bargain paradise for us. he couldn't remove the original curse, no one can.

until the curse, a man only needed to reach for the fruits and eat. after the curse, he must till the soil to eat. if the curse had been truly removed, why is everyone still working their assës off to pay bills? shouldn't there be manna falling freely somewhere for christians?

coogar:


thunder fire your weave on!
aproka!

this is golden

coogar:

the tilling of the soil is a figurative speech - we all must work to eat. people are out there doing 9-5. it's the equivalent of tilling the soil.
however, the labour pain is as real as it gets.
500,000 women die in nigeria every year as a result of pregnancy complications according to
WHO. surely, no curse has been lifted.
sipping cocktails?
the only thing you would be sipping is oxygen gas to reduce the pains. you dunno what you are dealing with.

For a man, you seem to know more about pregnancy pains. Seems you have given birth before to know, rotflmao!
Yes we all must work to eat, but you cannot compare the way we work now to how it was in the past. Most of us don't do any strenuous activity, we live a more sedentary lifestyle that is why you all get fat. In the past only emperors were fat, today over 1 billion people are fat. So indeed this curse is almost irrelevant.

Stillfire:

For a man, you seem to know more about pregnancy pains. Seems you have given birth before to know, rotflmao!

i am fully-aware of the things around me.

Yes we all must work to eat, but you cannot compare the way we work now to how it was in the past. Most of us don't do any strenuous activity, we live a more sedentary lifestyle that is why you all get fat.

it's the same!
i can even argue it's worse now. office work has turned some people into relics. people jump off high rise buildings everyday cos they cannot deal with the stress these days

In the past only emperors were fat, today over 1 billion people are fat. So indeed this curse is almost irrelevant.

the foods are no longer fresh.
everything is now processed - this builds up fats and stuff & thus obesity. nothing to do with your theory.

coogar:


possibly....
however, one could argue adam would always be superior as he was made from sand while eve was made from adam. they did not come from the same source.

there are too many things that weren't in God's plan. we are not supposed to wear clothes too.....that curse still remains. Jesus only managed to bargain paradise for us. he couldn't remove the original curse, no one can.

until the curse, a man only needed to reach for the fruits and eat. after the curse, he must till the soil to eat. if the curse had been truly removed, why is everyone still working their assës off to pay bills? shouldn't there be manna falling freely somewhere for christians?

Lol, possibly, hahaha.
Superiority is now a thing of who was made from sand and who wasn't?

coogar:


i am fully-aware of the things around me.



it's the same!
i can even argue it's worse now. office work has turned some people into relics. people jump off high rise buildings everyday cos they cannot deal with the stress these days



the foods are no longer fresh.
everything is now processed - this builds up fats and stuff & thus obesity. nothing to do with your theory.

It has everything to do with my theory. When was the last time you went to plant yam?

hahn:


I agree with this. Most times I watch my wife do home chores and honestly its not easy. From sweeping to washing plates, cooking, cleaning, washing clothes etc, women really need men to assist in the house. If we really are stronger than women as we claim then we should be able to handle having a job and still assist with the home chores. I believe the main problem is most guys aren't taught how to take care of themselves. I've lived and squatted with a lot of dudes and most guys can barely cook, clean or take care of the house. Its always war trying to figure out who'll take the responsibility of cleaning or washing plates.

Women should also endeavour to teach their sons how to do basic home chores. If every man is able to do that, it will be easeir to become involved in the house chores during marriage

Here's a man full of logic and wisdom!

Stillfire:

Lol, possibly, hahaha.
Superiority is now a thing of who was made from sand and who wasn't?

not necessarily....
it's just to buttress my point that there's no equality between the two. the source is different for the male & the female.

2 different things cannot be equal.
now that we have established adam wasn't equal to eve then we should analyse which of them was superior to the other....agreed?

Stillfire:

It has everything to do with my theory. When was the last time you went to plant yam?

there are hundreds of millions of christians in villages all over the world who still plant yams to make a living. what have you gotta say to that?

Stillfire:


Rubbish! In your spare time, go and shoot those female pastors running churches for daring to preach, you hear.
The need for superiority in you men is a devilish attitude that christianity needs to deal with.
If God's original intention was to create hierarchy on earth, why then did He make this a curse to the woman

Your desire will be for your husband,
and he will rule over you.

I prefer the NLT version:
Then he said to the woman, "I will sharpen the pain of your pregnancy, and in pain you will give birth. And you will desire to control your husband, but he will rule over you."

Fighting for equality can be a depressing sport at times. No matter how many women advance to positions of power, and in spite of all those progressive action movies out there to prove that scantily-clad blondes can karate chop and headbutt just as well as the men, it is still much pretty obvious that the female is the gentler and more fragile of the species.

The need for superiority in you men is a devilish attitude that christianity needs to deal with.

And all i see in this statement is overwhelming jealously for the male species. "the need for superiority"? loooool! My dear, it is your need to not appear inferior that makes you see any man that approaches you as a threat. Truth be told, you will only settle down when you outgrow this insecure attitude.


Twist it anyhow you want, God (Omnipotent, Omniscient) created Eve as an afterthought. It might sting, but there it is. And creation has not rested since.