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Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by jobsat34(m): 4:31pm On Apr 17, 2015
Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Tinubu will attend Buhari Inauguration.... anoda prophesy by moi... grin grin grin grin
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by ddddon(m): 4:37pm On Apr 17, 2015
vivaciousvivi:
torkaka your style of writing is extremely admirable.
A far cry from most of the juvenile and elementary trash I see often on Nairaland.

Personally, I still believe that prophets, priests, MOGs or whatever they are called should stick to their divine calling : which for me remains to win souls for Christ and display acts of charity no matter the situation. Dabbling into politics, no matter how flimsy should not be encouraged at all.
And why if I may ask, is this "craze for predictions" suddenly common place? What is the real motive? Politics isn't new in our land, so how come MOGs were not "predicting" since the 1980s - which was the era when politics in Nigeria slowly became a show of shame.
Questions, Questions...............
my dear totkaka is not the author of this work. the author is my mentor Femi Adesina MD of Sun. he is such a blessed and talented writer.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by wordcat(m): 4:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
Pavore9:
Can Rev Father Ejike Mbaka of the Adoration Ministry, Enugu, rise and take a bow. cool cool cool cool


No. They are all doing try and error.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by MarieSucre(f): 4:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
uncle005:
I know you are a man, please edit your profile, thank you sir.
The oestrogen in my body begs to differ. And would it make sense for me to put a naked male model as dp?
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Emmaowolabia(m): 4:44pm On Apr 17, 2015
Men of tumbom tumbom, God is not an author of confusion, he didnta speak to them. This is obvious in most of their statements, many of them using conditional words like if, even etc. God is d same yesterday, today and forever. He hasn't change but prophets has change from hearing from God to hearing by analysing events happening within.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Pavore9: 4:45pm On Apr 17, 2015
wordcat:



No. They are all doing try and error.

l respect your opinion while l stick to my conviction. smiley
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by richardoz(m): 4:49pm On Apr 17, 2015
some of them didn't hear anything from God; They were just doing permutation and guestimation! I started taking these prophecies with a pinch of salt or even disbelieving them since one prophet said babangida would win the 2007 presidential election!
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by funkyfrevy(f): 4:49pm On Apr 17, 2015
juniormusa:
Pls what is the use of summary
Reading is fundamental.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by DesChyko: 4:52pm On Apr 17, 2015
The writer of this article is deluded for calling Rev Fr Mbaka a supporter of any politician at all!
We, Catholics, insists that he goes over the dos and don'ts of Catholicism, realise he shouldn't meddle in electoral campaigns especially directly. Let him and other priests trying to tread this path realize that they are not bigger than the Church and her rules and must stick to it or they can use the exit.
As a faith suffering so many slanders and trials already, the last thing we need is a political-inspired division.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Olufemiolaolu(m): 4:54pm On Apr 17, 2015
Fake Prophecy from d pit of hell. Deuteronomy 18:20 But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by August17(m): 4:56pm On Apr 17, 2015
They shifted the election and they did not shift their prophesy...
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by slap1(m): 4:58pm On Apr 17, 2015
I see Femi Adesina going to Aso Rock, his support for GMB has been unequivocal.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by KoloOyinbo(m): 5:03pm On Apr 17, 2015
MarieSucre:
Prophecies these days are akin to the Texas Sharper Shooter Fallacy. Fire off random shots in the dark, switch on the light and paint bulls eye around the spots where your bullet hit, then do a victory dance on your detractors face. Taaaaaaah! If my eyes have not seen it, my hands have not felt it, my ears will refuse to hear it neither will my tongue transmitt it.

*modified*

I prophecy that I shall marry Chris Hemsworth.

Oh I just LOVE this analogy.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by funmi4love(f): 5:09pm On Apr 17, 2015
Dats y i like daddy E A ADEBOYE is better to kip quiet dan saying false prophecies
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Donchkus(m): 5:12pm On Apr 17, 2015
Am afraid of dem....look well bf u say....l guess dey HV myopia.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Nobody: 5:17pm On Apr 17, 2015
Personally, I think all these pastors should stop mixing God's ministry with politics. Religion should be separate from government and politics.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Nobody: 5:17pm On Apr 17, 2015
AdeniyiA:

by. IMPACT OGBEIDE

I feel disappointed in some of my 'brethren' who are going about to run down some men of God because in their opinion, "their prophecies" didn't come to pass. I beg to say you are wrong! I suggest you study the book of Jonah again.[b] God reserves the exclusive right to change His mind about a prophetic word when the people change their ways, [/b]and He can do this without consulting the prophet. Does this make the prophet false? NO! It only shows that God is sovereign. And to thee, dear man of God who might be going through what Jonah went through and you are thinking of how to get back your reputation before the people. You need not bother. No serious minister has a reputation to protect; we only have our characters to uphold. Some times in this work, God will lead you to say or do some things that are contrary to popular opinion, and this will greatly dent your reputation. But with the consistency of your character and the passage of time, you definitely will be vindicated.

I stand today to salute the great men of God who dared to step into their prophetic offices and are courageous enough to declare some 'dangerous' prophecies even when they know that God can change His mind at any time and leave them at the mercy of ferocious critics who will not bother about the several hundreds of prophecies that have been fulfilled (see Jonah's previous fulfilled prophecy in 2nd kings 14:25),
https://www.nairaland.com/2234272/election-prophecies-jonah-not-false

Did the people of Nigeria change their ways?

Was there any mass movement of repentance among Nigerians from their sins? Especially those that are of the house of God?

Abeg.....we Christians made a mistake. Now is the time we stopped using prophecy wrongly...and repented and became connected to God again. Nigerian Christianity is full of wrong. We are not like the people of Nineveh in Jonah's time.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Kay25(m): 5:17pm On Apr 17, 2015
holyboss:
if I hear



next is my signature..
the fact that a prophecy failed does not mean they are not prophet..many things are involved in prophecy
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by shegerun: 5:21pm On Apr 17, 2015
What about TB Joshua? Can someone remind me of his predictions concerning the 2015 elections.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by oyetunder(m): 5:24pm On Apr 17, 2015
In what ways are these predictions actually edifying the Body of Christ-the Church. God has not sent anybody to go and be 'predicting' or as predictors!b! God servants are to prophesy unto the edification of the body of Christ. What has God told them about the challenges facing the church in form of occultic invasion and ritualists on the altars? This is an age where 'prophets' are busy predicting world cup results, European league winners, plane crashes and the imminent deaths of rich men!!! All these are efforts to attract money bags... We need those who can tell us the mind of God as regards the deep salvation, holiness, simplicity, holy blessings, fear of God, holy living, and heaven.
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by adeniyitheprof(m): 5:25pm On Apr 17, 2015
Wuuworld:
For the much I know,non of these men prophecy openly except REV FR EJIKE MBAKA......he went to the extent of releasing the tape of the message to show dt he is very much sure of what he is saying, despite putting his dear life at Risk.......Prophets of old like Elijah, don't give their prophecies behind d pulpit,they make it known to everybody.....If the World today can have 10 people like MBAKA,I bet we gonna witness HEAVEN ON EARTH..
NEVER AGAIN WILL PROPHETS OF BAAL SPEAK TO THE AFFAIRS OF NIGERIA
GOD BLESS NIGERIA

To be honest, I did not hear the Rev's name from anyone (even Igbo friends) or newspaper nor know him anywhere before the video came out. It was the video that made me and many out there to know little about him.

My brother, Rev. Mbaka did not prophesy based on my close study of His message via the video.

I am not against him in anyway but there is a sharp dichotomy between a PREDICTION and a PROPHECY.

There is nowhere in the video even while on the pulpit that he said "Thus saith the Lord......" or "The Lord told me that....."

Not every word or statement from the mouths of pastors are directly from God. Some words may be their opinions, warnings, viewpoints, and predictions based on what is going on presently.

Rev. Mbaka did warn the congregation that should they vote for Jonathan, things like insecurity, corruption and bad economy will escalate the more.

Many did say he spoke like a political activist on that day and not like a prophet.

Remember that he was merely preaching; there was nowhere he said that the Lord told me that Jonathan will lose the election but he categorically listed out, with much emphasis, the reasons (which He wanted his members to reason along) why Jonathan SHOULD NOT be voted again. (Note the words "SHOULD NOT"wink

That was why many of his critics did say that he was merely campaigning against Jonathan but not giving prophecies from God against Jonathan as per the election.

My brother, this is just an insight of my answer I gave someone who attacked the Reverend.
The person said the same Rev. Mbaka prophesied that a Governor will not win an election but the Governor won and that Rev. Mbaka then prophesied Jonathan's election loss with precision. He then asked: Are Rev. Mbaka's prophecies based on guesswork?

The person made these statements while I was trying to differentiate between a PROPHECY (which must come to pass and it is from God, speaking His mind) and a PREDICTION (which may/may not occur just like football match prediction and it is from man because God never predicts)
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by blackpriest0911: 5:30pm On Apr 17, 2015
Prophet ekong ituen,general overseer of christ deliverance ministry,lagos predicted the failure of jona in 2015,check yesterday Sun newspaper
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Idrismusty97(m): 5:31pm On Apr 17, 2015

Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by cyberuzo(m): 5:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
adeniyitheprof:


To be honest, I did not hear the Rev's name from anyone (even Igbo friends) or newspaper nor know him anywhere before the video came out. It was the video that made me and many out there to know little about him.

My brother, Rev. Mbaka did not prophesy based on my close study of His message via the video.

I am not against him in anyway but there is a sharp dichotomy between a PREDICTION and a PROPHECY.

There is nowhere in the video even while on the pulpit that he said "Thus saith the Lord......" or "The Lord told me that....."


Dude, go through the message again. He mentioned The phrase " this is from the Oracle of the Holy Spirit" about 7 times
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by JJBROS(m): 5:39pm On Apr 17, 2015
Rev father mbaka I salute u sir. More anointing!!!
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Omotayor123(f): 5:59pm On Apr 17, 2015
Story for d gods!

well,
Wetin concern me?
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by djkirkoo2(m): 6:02pm On Apr 17, 2015
Pavore9:
Can Rev Father Ejike Mbaka of the Adoration Ministry, Enugu, rise and take a bow. cool cool cool cool
D same Mbaka who prophesied victory for GEJ wen mama peace visited his ministry? Abi Dem fence ur sense? cheesy
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Pavore9: 6:08pm On Apr 17, 2015
djkirkoo2:
D same Mbaka who prophesied victory for GEJ wen mama peace visited his ministry? Abi Dem fence ur sense? cheesy

'Before then, Father Mbaka had been an ardent Jonathan supporter. He had said good things about the President and his aspirations for 2015, but obviously, he spoke like a man that he was. When the Spirit of God chose to speak through him, even the Catholic priest had no choice. He became like clay in the hands of the potter: yielded and still. Today, we have a true prophet to the nations in Father Mbaka.'

l think that answers the question. cheesy
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by highmood(m): 6:20pm On Apr 17, 2015
Wow! What a nice piece. But what about the African Major Prophet-prophet Benjamin Samson Mustapha. The G.O Resurrection Praise Ministry, satellite town. He also predicted for GEJ as well as for Jimi Agbaje that they will win. He boldly said that. But for now, I can't help myself but keep wondering?
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by Igwezeugo(m): 6:20pm On Apr 17, 2015
torkaka:
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=115033

Can Rev Father Ejike Mbaka of the Adoration Ministry, Enugu, rise and take a bow? When many other prophets went the way of Balaam, making predictions for filthy lucre and falling over themselves to foretell a second term in office for President Goodluck Jonathan, Father Mbaka trod an unbeaten and unpopular path. At the risk of his life, he said Gen Muhammadu Buhari of the All Progressives Congress (APC) would win the 2015 presidential election.

Before then, Father Mbaka had been an ardent Jonathan supporter. He had said good things about the President and his aspirations for 2015, but obviously, he spoke like a man that he was. When the Spirit of God chose to speak through him, even the Catholic priest had no choice. He became like clay in the hands of the potter: yielded and still. Today, we have a true prophet to the nations in Father Mbaka.

Also, can Prophet Joseph Kehinde Oladipupo of Faith and Victory Church, Akure, Ondo State, stand up and be recognized? In March this year, he had predicted a Buhari victory, saying: “Jonathan will lose hands down. If he wins the election, then God didn’t send me as His servant… He told me while interceding for Nigeria that Jonathan is not the next president. Gen. Muhammadu Buhari will win the presidential election, and he will rule this country democratically.”

How about Ibadan, Oyo State based prophet, Wale Olagunju of The Seed of God Chapel? Garland him, please. This was what he said early this year: “Buhari is the next president of Nigeria… His votes will supersede the votes Abiola got in 1993. Jonathan’s days as President of Nigeria are numbered.” Word for word, the prophecy came to pass. M.K.O. Abiola won over eight million votes in 1993, Buhari has now won over 15 million, to become our President-elect. Prophet Olagunju, you have every reason to walk tall, and rejoice, even boast, in the Lord your God. Yes, how else is a true prophet known? The Good Book says when a man prophesies, and what he says comes to pass, then know that the man has been sent by God. But when a man says, “Thus says the Lord,” when the Lord has not spoken, such man is setting himself up for shame and disgrace.

However, we only started this piece with a digression. We are not talking today about men (and possibly women) who saw the future correctly, but those who really did not see anything, or saw partly through a glass, and could not properly decipher the message they got. A caveat, however: our intention is not to mock or deride anybody. The purpose is simple. We want to establish that only God has the final say in the affairs of men, and no man can pontifically declare what will happen in future, to the exclusion of the divine powers. God is the ultimate. He has the final say at any given time, and He has not ceded that authority to man. Repeat: Not to any man, whether he’s a prophet, diviner or futurologist. Jehovah has the final say.

You can’t mention top three prophets in the country before his name pops up. Primate Theophilus Oluwasaanu Olabayo is Founder of Evangelical Church of Yahweh, based in Lagos. He has name and reputation in the rank of top seers in Nigeria. But in respect of 2015 elections, he hit the crossbar, not once, but twice. Olabayo, an ardent follower of the soccer game, failed to find the back of the net on who wins the presidential race, and who becomes Lagos State governor. Hear the man: “God has revealed to me that if at all there is going to be presidential election, it will be inconclusive just like the June 12 (1993 election) that we had during the time of the late Chief M.K.O. Abiola.”

Well, the elections held. And despite the potentially disruptive antics of Elder Godsday Orubebe during the announcement of the results, the process was not truncated, so the election was not rendered inconclusive. Primate Olabayo missed it. He hit the crossbar.

And on Lagos State governor, hear the prophet: “Jimi Agbaje will have more support of the people, and this is what will cause uproar in some circles if at all there is going to be election. Jimi Agbaje will have the upper hand because the candidate that should have won the election for APC was not given the chance to be presented as the party’s governorship candidate in Lagos. APC should have presented Ganiyu Solomon, he was God’s anointed candidate.”

Well, Solomon lost at the party primaries, but like a great sportsman, he threw his weight behind Akinwunmi Ambode. He campaigned for him vigorously. And the latter is governor-elect today. Agbaje did not win, and Olabayo hit the crossbar again.

Another Grade A prophet is Primate Babatunde Elijah Ayodele, Founder of the INRI Evangelical Spiritual Church, Oke-Afa, Isolo, Lagos. Ayodele looks into the seeds of time, and can tell you which one will grow, and which will not. The man is also given to much philanthropy, a thing I admire highly about him. But what is his report card on 2015 elections? Let’s listen to the man, since the Good Book says: “by your words, ye shall be justified, and by your words, ye shall be condemned.”

Hear Ayodele: “Kaduna is going to be very bloody. PDP may take Kaduna, but it’s going to be by narrow margin. Yobe, Gombe, Benue, Delta, Akwa Ibom, all those states will be won by PDP.”

April 11 has come and gone. Mercifully, Kaduna was not bloody, and PDP did not take the state, APC did. Again, it was not by narrow margin. Rather Nasir El-Rufai beat Ramalan Yero by a landslide. The incumbent became so punch drunk that he threw in the towel from his corner, and congratulated his opponent before the entire results were released. He needed to save himself from further blows to the solar plexus.

Yet again, PDP did not win Yobe and Benue as Primate Ayodele predicted. Dear prophet, what happened? I can hear the ball hit the crossbar with a loud bang, followed by a ricochet, and bouncing back into the field of play.

Hear Ayodele on the presidential race, talking about Jonathan: “This election is a lesson for him and there are still lessons for him to learn if he now gets it back. He still needs a lot of prayers. But in the midst of all these ups and downs, he may still have a very slim chance of winning the election. I don’t see any landslide victory at all between him and Buhari. At the end of the day, PDP will win the federal, but the party will crash after the elections.”

PDP will win the federal. Really? The last time I checked, the party lost by about 2.5 million votes, and is currently in disarray, winning only seven out of 26 state governorship seats so far declared from last weekend’s election.

Primate Ayodele owes us explanations on Lagos, particularly. He had said the APC would lose, if it fielded Ambode. And when confronted later on that prediction, he hinged everything on God. “Let the Lord justify His words for He exalts His words above His name,” the prophet declared. Now that Ambode has won Lagos, did God change His mind? Over to you, Primate!

Prophet Joshua Iginla. He’s a big tree in the forest of prophets. He sees great things, many of which have come to pass. But on who will be president from May 29, this year, he missed it big time. Loud bang! The crossbar shook, and almost fell.

“I am not a politician nor belong to any political party. I am just speaking God’s mind,” Iginla had declared in a January 2015 interview. “The person sitting on the seat might not be perfect but he will retain the seat. It’s not guesswork… President Jonathan will win, but he has to pray about his health and so many political blows.”

President Jonathan will win, said Iginla. But the man did not win. So, what says the prophet now?

During the ground breaking ceremony of the 80,000-seater City of Wonder tabernacle of his Champions Royal Assembly in Abuja last December, Iginla had again affirmed: “The President should pray very well because he will win the election but will suffer political blows that he might live to nurse for the rest of his life. I saw political blows, which entail you might be in power but nursing political injuries that refused to heal.”

Brother Joshuaaa! What happened? We’re all ears.

He’s not very long on the national scene, but Apostle Joshua Suleman has shot himself into reckoning in a very short time. There are many predictions he made that have come to pass, but since we’re talking of only those that hit the crossbar today, let’s consider these ones from the Auchi, Edo State based prophet.

“Presidential ticket will split APC.” No, it did not. It even rather united the party. “Jonathan will manipulate second term. He may rig himself to power, but will not complete the tenure the tenure.” No, Jonathan did not even get a second term. “APC will claim victory in 2015 but the court will give it to Jonathan.” APC is not claiming government, rather it has been declared victor at the polls. “Oyo and Ogun state governors, I don’t see them coming back. If they can pray hard, mercy may smile at them, but I see them go home.” Well, the two governors are home – in their respective government houses.

Nobody can tell me that Archbishop John Obiokeke of God Pentecostal Mission Churches Worldwide does not see things. He sees. One day in 2006, he had visited us at The Sun Newspapers. After the courtesy visit, he began to reel out prophecies concerning some of us that hosted him. Most of them have come to pass. He even named one of our staff that was not in the reception team. He said we should tell him to be careful about his health. Sadly, that one died not long after. So, Obiokeke sees.

But on 2015 election, he saw amiss, and has hit the crossbar again, just as he did in 2007, when he said former military ruler, Ibrahim Babangida, would be president. In January, this year, Obiokeke had declared: “God is saying that there is no vacancy in Aso Rock. For reasons best known to Him, Jonathan, even though will rig, is still going to be the President… The election is going to be tight, but Jonathan will return.”

Smack, on the crossbar. Somebody, please find me the prophet’s phone number. He owes us an explanation.

Dr Success Ibeakanma, Senior Pastor of Royal Choice Ministries, Lagos: “In the presidential election of 2015, APC will try but PDP will win.” Verdict? Crossbar.

Rev. Saviour Efe Awusi, Founder and General Overseer of God’s Divine Favour Evangelical Church, Okota, Lagos: “Thus says the Lord. By my mercy, President Jonathan would surely win this year’s (February 14) presidential election. And all those who are against him shall be put to shame.” Verdict? Crossbar, with the upright shaking vigorously!

Pastor Dr Emeka Agwu, Organizer/Host, Diaspora Prayers for Dr Jonathan’s Victory, is also the General Overseer of Voice of Evangelism International, Houston, Texas, USA. Magisterially, he had declared before the elections: “They want Jonathan resigned or changed, but God has given Jonathan the 2015 election key of victory.” True? The key we see Jonathan holding is that of his home in Otuoke, Bayelsa State. Verdict? Dr Agwu hit the crossbar. And a miss is as good as a mile.

Let me end this piece with the way I always end my interventions on prophecies that miss, which I do at the beginning of every New Year:

“No man has the final say over anything. Only God does. Times and seasons are in His hands. Prophecies are for our edification, for our encouragement and blessing. But God never reveals everything to finite man. If He reveals everything, then He would not be God again. No wonder the Good Book says the things that are revealed are for men, while the ones that are hidden are for God. If God has hidden something in His superior knowledge, why should I go and poke my nose into it, trying to sniff it out? ‘He that pries into every cloud shall be struck by thunderbolt,’ so goes the saying. So, I take the things God has revealed, and respect His decision on the ones He keeps to Himself – lest I hit the crossbar.”
thank U, no one is perfect! U hail Mbaka bt d year 2003,he prophesis dt Dr Chimaroke Nnamani will nt smell d seat of Governor for second time,
He go ahead said dt if he tries it he will die in dt seat
Wat happen?
Did d prophesy come to pass
Did Chimaroke died as a Governor of Enugu state?
He even went to serve as a senator for years and come bk for his campaining
Mr femi tell me did Ejike Mbaka croosbar?
Re: 2015 Polls: Prophecies That Hit The Crossbar - Femi Adesina (the SUN) by csfrost: 6:40pm On Apr 17, 2015
torkaka:
http://sunnewsonline.com/new/?p=115033

Can Rev Father Ejike Mbaka of the Adoration Ministry, Enugu, rise and take a bow? When many other prophets went the way of Balaam, making predictions for filthy lucre and falling over themselves to foretell a second term in office for President Goodluck Jonathan, Father Mbaka trod an unbeaten and unpopular path. At the risk of his life, he said Gen Muhammadu Buhari of the All Progressives Congress (APC) would win the 2015 presidential election.

Before then, Father Mbaka had been an ardent Jonathan supporter. He had said good things about the President and his aspirations for 2015, but obviously, he spoke like a man that he was. When the Spirit of God chose to speak through him, even the Catholic priest had no choice. He became like clay in the hands of the potter: yielded and still. Today, we have a true prophet to the nations in Father Mbaka.

Also, can Prophet Joseph Kehinde Oladipupo of Faith and Victory Church, Akure, Ondo State, stand up and be recognized? In March this year, he had predicted a Buhari victory, saying: “Jonathan will lose hands down. If he wins the election, then God didn’t send me as His servant… He told me while interceding for Nigeria that Jonathan is not the next president. Gen. Muhammadu Buhari will win the presidential election, and he will rule this country democratically.”

How about Ibadan, Oyo State based prophet, Wale Olagunju of The Seed of God Chapel? Garland him, please. This was what he said early this year: “Buhari is the next president of Nigeria… His votes will supersede the votes Abiola got in 1993. Jonathan’s days as President of Nigeria are numbered.” Word for word, the prophecy came to pass. M.K.O. Abiola won over eight million votes in 1993, Buhari has now won over 15 million, to become our President-elect. Prophet Olagunju, you have every reason to walk tall, and rejoice, even boast, in the Lord your God. Yes, how else is a true prophet known? The Good Book says when a man prophesies, and what he says comes to pass, then know that the man has been sent by God. But when a man says, “Thus says the Lord,” when the Lord has not spoken, such man is setting himself up for shame and disgrace.

However, we only started this piece with a digression. We are not talking today about men (and possibly women) who saw the future correctly, but those who really did not see anything, or saw partly through a glass, and could not properly decipher the message they got. A caveat, however: our intention is not to mock or deride anybody. The purpose is simple. We want to establish that only God has the final say in the affairs of men, and no man can pontifically declare what will happen in future, to the exclusion of the divine powers. God is the ultimate. He has the final say at any given time, and He has not ceded that authority to man. Repeat: Not to any man, whether he’s a prophet, diviner or futurologist. Jehovah has the final say.

You can’t mention top three prophets in the country before his name pops up. Primate Theophilus Oluwasaanu Olabayo is Founder of Evangelical Church of Yahweh, based in Lagos. He has name and reputation in the rank of top seers in Nigeria. But in respect of 2015 elections, he hit the crossbar, not once, but twice. Olabayo, an ardent follower of the soccer game, failed to find the back of the net on who wins the presidential race, and who becomes Lagos State governor. Hear the man: “God has revealed to me that if at all there is going to be presidential election, it will be inconclusive just like the June 12 (1993 election) that we had during the time of the late Chief M.K.O. Abiola.”

Well, the elections held. And despite the potentially disruptive antics of Elder Godsday Orubebe during the announcement of the results, the process was not truncated, so the election was not rendered inconclusive. Primate Olabayo missed it. He hit the crossbar.

And on Lagos State governor, hear the prophet: “Jimi Agbaje will have more support of the people, and this is what will cause uproar in some circles if at all there is going to be election. Jimi Agbaje will have the upper hand because the candidate that should have won the election for APC was not given the chance to be presented as the party’s governorship candidate in Lagos. APC should have presented Ganiyu Solomon, he was God’s anointed candidate.”

Well, Solomon lost at the party primaries, but like a great sportsman, he threw his weight behind Akinwunmi Ambode. He campaigned for him vigorously. And the latter is governor-elect today. Agbaje did not win, and Olabayo hit the crossbar again.

Another Grade A prophet is Primate Babatunde Elijah Ayodele, Founder of the INRI Evangelical Spiritual Church, Oke-Afa, Isolo, Lagos. Ayodele looks into the seeds of time, and can tell you which one will grow, and which will not. The man is also given to much philanthropy, a thing I admire highly about him. But what is his report card on 2015 elections? Let’s listen to the man, since the Good Book says: “by your words, ye shall be justified, and by your words, ye shall be condemned.”

Hear Ayodele: “Kaduna is going to be very bloody. PDP may take Kaduna, but it’s going to be by narrow margin. Yobe, Gombe, Benue, Delta, Akwa Ibom, all those states will be won by PDP.”

April 11 has come and gone. Mercifully, Kaduna was not bloody, and PDP did not take the state, APC did. Again, it was not by narrow margin. Rather Nasir El-Rufai beat Ramalan Yero by a landslide. The incumbent became so punch drunk that he threw in the towel from his corner, and congratulated his opponent before the entire results were released. He needed to save himself from further blows to the solar plexus.

Yet again, PDP did not win Yobe and Benue as Primate Ayodele predicted. Dear prophet, what happened? I can hear the ball hit the crossbar with a loud bang, followed by a ricochet, and bouncing back into the field of play.

Hear Ayodele on the presidential race, talking about Jonathan: “This election is a lesson for him and there are still lessons for him to learn if he now gets it back. He still needs a lot of prayers. But in the midst of all these ups and downs, he may still have a very slim chance of winning the election. I don’t see any landslide victory at all between him and Buhari. At the end of the day, PDP will win the federal, but the party will crash after the elections.”

PDP will win the federal. Really? The last time I checked, the party lost by about 2.5 million votes, and is currently in disarray, winning only seven out of 26 state governorship seats so far declared from last weekend’s election.

Primate Ayodele owes us explanations on Lagos, particularly. He had said the APC would lose, if it fielded Ambode. And when confronted later on that prediction, he hinged everything on God. “Let the Lord justify His words for He exalts His words above His name,” the prophet declared. Now that Ambode has won Lagos, did God change His mind? Over to you, Primate!

Prophet Joshua Iginla. He’s a big tree in the forest of prophets. He sees great things, many of which have come to pass. But on who will be president from May 29, this year, he missed it big time. Loud bang! The crossbar shook, and almost fell.

“I am not a politician nor belong to any political party. I am just speaking God’s mind,” Iginla had declared in a January 2015 interview. “The person sitting on the seat might not be perfect but he will retain the seat. It’s not guesswork… President Jonathan will win, but he has to pray about his health and so many political blows.”

President Jonathan will win, said Iginla. But the man did not win. So, what says the prophet now?

During the ground breaking ceremony of the 80,000-seater City of Wonder tabernacle of his Champions Royal Assembly in Abuja last December, Iginla had again affirmed: “The President should pray very well because he will win the election but will suffer political blows that he might live to nurse for the rest of his life. I saw political blows, which entail you might be in power but nursing political injuries that refused to heal.”

Brother Joshuaaa! What happened? We’re all ears.

He’s not very long on the national scene, but Apostle Joshua Suleman has shot himself into reckoning in a very short time. There are many predictions he made that have come to pass, but since we’re talking of only those that hit the crossbar today, let’s consider these ones from the Auchi, Edo State based prophet.

“Presidential ticket will split APC.” No, it did not. It even rather united the party. “Jonathan will manipulate second term. He may rig himself to power, but will not complete the tenure the tenure.” No, Jonathan did not even get a second term. “APC will claim victory in 2015 but the court will give it to Jonathan.” APC is not claiming government, rather it has been declared victor at the polls. “Oyo and Ogun state governors, I don’t see them coming back. If they can pray hard, mercy may smile at them, but I see them go home.” Well, the two governors are home – in their respective government houses.

Nobody can tell me that Archbishop John Obiokeke of God Pentecostal Mission Churches Worldwide does not see things. He sees. One day in 2006, he had visited us at The Sun Newspapers. After the courtesy visit, he began to reel out prophecies concerning some of us that hosted him. Most of them have come to pass. He even named one of our staff that was not in the reception team. He said we should tell him to be careful about his health. Sadly, that one died not long after. So, Obiokeke sees.

But on 2015 election, he saw amiss, and has hit the crossbar again, just as he did in 2007, when he said former military ruler, Ibrahim Babangida, would be president. In January, this year, Obiokeke had declared: “God is saying that there is no vacancy in Aso Rock. For reasons best known to Him, Jonathan, even though will rig, is still going to be the President… The election is going to be tight, but Jonathan will return.”

Smack, on the crossbar. Somebody, please find me the prophet’s phone number. He owes us an explanation.

Dr Success Ibeakanma, Senior Pastor of Royal Choice Ministries, Lagos: “In the presidential election of 2015, APC will try but PDP will win.” Verdict? Crossbar.

Rev. Saviour Efe Awusi, Founder and General Overseer of God’s Divine Favour Evangelical Church, Okota, Lagos: “Thus says the Lord. By my mercy, President Jonathan would surely win this year’s (February 14) presidential election. And all those who are against him shall be put to shame.” Verdict? Crossbar, with the upright shaking vigorously!

Pastor Dr Emeka Agwu, Organizer/Host, Diaspora Prayers for Dr Jonathan’s Victory, is also the General Overseer of Voice of Evangelism International, Houston, Texas, USA. Magisterially, he had declared before the elections: “They want Jonathan resigned or changed, but God has given Jonathan the 2015 election key of victory.” True? The key we see Jonathan holding is that of his home in Otuoke, Bayelsa State. Verdict? Dr Agwu hit the crossbar. And a miss is as good as a mile.

Let me end this piece with the way I always end my interventions on prophecies that miss, which I do at the beginning of every New Year:

“No man has the final say over anything. Only God does. Times and seasons are in His hands. Prophecies are for our edification, for our encouragement and blessing. But God never reveals everything to finite man. If He reveals everything, then He would not be God again. No wonder the Good Book says the things that are revealed are for men, while the ones that are hidden are for God. If God has hidden something in His superior knowledge, why should I go and poke my nose into it, trying to sniff it out? ‘He that pries into every cloud shall be struck by thunderbolt,’ so goes the saying. So, I take the things God has revealed, and respect His decision on the ones He keeps to Himself – lest I hit the crossbar.”
I'm not much of a bible reader, but I know a part of the bible when a prophet visited a king in Israel and told the king that thus says the lord, he wouldn't recover but die in few days time, after the prophet left, the king turned his head towards the wall and prayed to God, God answered his prayers and his life was extented to years instead.
God is God... He does what He wants to the glory of His name, so judge not.



extra: we all know some prophets are fake, so also are some news agencies, ministries, churches e.t.c
so remove the grain of sand in your eyes before thinkin of removing that of someone else.

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