LordReed:


No, no roll call but no secrecy either. Anyway I know I am just thinking aloud but it would be better for us all if this stigma of HIV status could just end and let us treat it like the disease it is instead of something to use to condemn people; we all would benefit from not unwittingly spreading this deadly disease.

You would agree with me the authorities are doing much in that regard.

https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/just-diagnosed-with-hiv-aids/your-legal-rights/legal-disclosure/

Many states and some cities have partner-notification laws—meaning that, if you test positive for HIV, you (or your healthcare provider) may be legally obligated to tell your sex or needle-sharing partner(s). In some states, if you are HIV-positive and don’t tell your partner(s), you can be charged with a crime. Some health departments require healthcare providers to report the name of your sex and needle-sharing partner(s) if they know that information—even if you refuse to report that information yourself.
Some states also have laws that require clinic staff to notify a “third party” if they know that person has a significant risk for exposure to HIV from a patient the staff member knows is infected with HIV. This is called duty to warn. The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program requires that health departments receiving money from the Ryan White program show “good faith” efforts to notify the marriage partners of a patient with HIV/AIDS.

www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Disclosure_4946.shtml

In general, physicians may breach patient confidentiality in this situation and notify a sexual or needle sharing partner of an individual's HIV infection who is at identifiable risk of infection, as long as they act in good faith and offer only the information necessary to help the notified person protect against future risk of infection or seek medical treatment.
These guidelines do not require that a physician disclose the name of the person who might be putting an individual at risk, although in some instances that identity will be obvious.
These guidelines do not justify disclosures about HIV information to insurers, employers, schools, or other institutions.
Efforts at contact tracing need not breach medical confidentiality with regard to the HIV positive person. They need only advise people that they may have been exposed to HIV infection.

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omicron:
You would agree with me the authorities are doing much in that regard.

See my last post. That is what forward thinking authorities should do.

sapiorxxual:
ur ignorance is appalling. The virus can stay in ur body for upto 10years before u start feeling sick. Moreover, if the lady was on anti retroviral drugs(which I'm sure she must be on), the man would not contract the disease. Read more and get educated.

My dear scientists have made us to realize dat d virus does not stay in d body up to dat period.Read more abt d virus

naijababe:


Bollocks!!!!

Thank you, have a nice day

LordReed:
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/just-diagnosed-with-hiv-aids/your-legal-rights/legal-disclosure/

Many states and some cities have partner-notification laws—meaning that, if you test positive for HIV, you (or your healthcare provider) may be legally obligated to tell your sex or needle-sharing partner(s). In some states, if you are HIV-positive and don’t tell your partner(s), you can be charged with a crime. Some health departments require healthcare providers to report the name of your sex and needle-sharing partner(s) if they know that information—even if you refuse to report that information yourself.
Some states also have laws that require clinic staff to notify a “third party” if they know that person has a significant risk for exposure to HIV from a patient the staff member knows is infected with HIV. This is called duty to warn. The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program requires that health departments receiving money from the Ryan White program show “good faith” efforts to notify the marriage partners of a patient with HIV/AIDS.

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Young man you are digressing. Did you not see it is a LAW there, state Laws not even Federal law.

What have we been saying all day: the Law does not oblige doctors here to reveal such info.

Dont go bringing me USA state laws to judge a Nigerian case.

I think I'll call the arguement a day. It's been interesting enough.

LordReed:
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/just-diagnosed-with-hiv-aids/your-legal-rights/legal-disclosure/

Many states and some cities have partner-notification laws—meaning that, if you test positive for HIV, you (or your healthcare provider) may be legally obligated to tell your sex or needle-sharing partner(s). In some states, if you are HIV-positive and don’t tell your partner(s), you can be charged with a crime. Some health departments require healthcare providers to report the name of your sex and needle-sharing partner(s) if they know that information—even if you refuse to report that information yourself.
Some states also have laws that require clinic staff to notify a “third party” if they know that person has a significant risk for exposure to HIV from a patient the staff member knows is infected with HIV. This is called duty to warn. The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program requires that health departments receiving money from the Ryan White program show “good faith” efforts to notify the marriage partners of a patient with HIV/AIDS.

www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Disclosure_4946.shtml

In general, physicians may breach patient confidentiality in this situation and notify a sexual or needle sharing partner of an individual's HIV infection who is at identifiable risk of infection, as long as they act in good faith and offer only the information necessary to help the notified person protect against future risk of infection or seek medical treatment.
These guidelines do not require that a physician disclose the name of the person who might be putting an individual at risk, although in some instances that identity will be obvious.
These guidelines do not justify disclosures about HIV information to insurers, employers, schools, or other institutions.
Efforts at contact tracing need not breach medical confidentiality with regard to the HIV positive person. They need only advise people that they may have been exposed to HIV infection.

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MadCow

Thanks for educating these folks, common sense should have told them this anyway.

omicron:
Young man you are digressing. Did you not see it is a LAW there, state Laws not even Federal law.

What have we been saying all day: the Law does not oblige doctors here to reveal such info.

Dont go bringing me USA state laws to judge a Nigerian case.

I think I'll call the arguement a day. It's been interesting enough.

So what is good about something should be discarded because it is from the US? What issue do you have with a doctor disclosing HIV positive status to a spouse? Is the spouse's protection not important as well?

What a wicked woman.

To disclose to a partner or not legally depends on where the healthcare professional is practicing. Some countries have something called partner notification while some don't. For those that don't have it, notifying a person could come under duty of care and public interest.

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50calibre:


Thanks for educating these folks, common sense should have told them this anyway.

I am just glad there are forward thinking authorities. I would want to be informed if I find myself in such a situation.

50calibre:




HIV infection is reportable in the US.

I seriously hope you aren't in the medical field because your thinking pattern is very dangerous.

You are subtly becoming provocative and opinionated.

Last I checked HIV is not a reportable disease listed by the American CDC.

I am a physician, and a well trained one at that, not to be immodest.

omicron:
Young man you are digressing. Did you not see it is a LAW there, state Laws not even Federal law.

What have we been saying all day: the Law does not oblige doctors here to reveal such info.

Dont go bringing me USA state laws to judge a Nigerian case.

I think I'll call the arguement a day. It's been interesting enough.

Lool ignorance on display!

Whether state or federal law, what difference does it make apart from the fact state laws are only valid within a state, how's that even relevant in this context?

Your ignorance makes you blind to the fact that Nigerian laws are modelled closely to that of America.

LordReed:


So what is good about something should be discarded because it is from the US? What issue do you have with a doctor disclosing HIV positive status to a spouse? Is the spouse's protection not important as well?

You go about deceiving people who may lack the medical foundation to comprehend these things.

Some state in the USA have such laws.

Does Your Country or any state therein have such laws?

You should have read one of my posts where I referred one guy like you to the National Assembly.

omicron:


You are subtly becoming provocative and opinionated.

Last I checked HIV is not a reportable disease listed by the American CDC.

I am a physician, and a well trained one at that, not to be immodest.

Wikipedia says a different thing however

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notifiable_diseases

That aside, I'm not being provocative, just stating the obvious.

The fact you think some confidentiality clause justifies the wilful infection of a patient shows the welfare of your patients isn't your first priority.

No offence but if you were my doctor, I don't think I'd be seeing you again after what you've said here.

50calibre:


Wikipedia says a different thing however

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_notifiable_diseases

That aside, I'm not being provocative, just stating the obvious.

The fact you think some confidentiality clause justifies the wilful infection of a patient shows the welfare of your patients isn't your first priority.

No offence but if you were my doctor, I don't think I'd be seeing you again after what you've said here.

seriously? You are using wikipedia to counter the information from the CDC SERIOUSLY.

I give up.

Guy, just go. You are being too emotional to tell yourself the truth.

And if you were my patient, you will leave my consulting room better informed, and better at judging legal cases too.

omicron:


You are subtly becoming provocative and opinionated.

Last I checked HIV is not a reportable disease listed by the American CDC.

I am a physician, and a well trained one at that, not to be immodest.

You're debating against a close minded maroon.

It's best to let them wallow in their ignorance.

omicron:
seriously? You are using wikipedia to counter the information from the CDC SERIOUSLY.

I give up.

Guy, just go. You are being too emotional to tell yourself the truth.

And if you were my patient, you will leave my consulting better informed, and better at judging legal cases.

CityNG:


You're debating against a close minded maroon.

It's best to let them wallow in their ignorance.

I give up. It's one of hardest things, explaining these things.

Thanks

LordReed:
https://www.aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/just-diagnosed-with-hiv-aids/your-legal-rights/legal-disclosure/

Many states and some cities have partner-notification laws—meaning that, if you test positive for HIV, you (or your healthcare provider) may be legally obligated to tell your sex or needle-sharing partner(s). In some states, if you are HIV-positive and don’t tell your partner(s), you can be charged with a crime. Some health departments require healthcare providers to report the name of your sex and needle-sharing partner(s) if they know that information—even if you refuse to report that information yourself.
Some states also have laws that require clinic staff to notify a “third party” if they know that person has a significant risk for exposure to HIV from a patient the staff member knows is infected with HIV. This is called duty to warn. The Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program requires that health departments receiving money from the Ryan White program show “good faith” efforts to notify the marriage partners of a patient with HIV/AIDS.

www.aidsmeds.com/articles/Disclosure_4946.shtml

In general, physicians may breach patient confidentiality in this situation and notify a sexual or needle sharing partner of an individual's HIV infection who is at identifiable risk of infection, as long as they act in good faith and offer only the information necessary to help the notified person protect against future risk of infection or seek medical treatment.
These guidelines do not require that a physician disclose the name of the person who might be putting an individual at risk, although in some instances that identity will be obvious.
These guidelines do not justify disclosures about HIV information to insurers, employers, schools, or other institutions.
Efforts at contact tracing need not breach medical confidentiality with regard to the HIV positive person. They need only advise people that they may have been exposed to HIV infection.

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MadCow

Please leave my name out of your hoppycock bs quotes.

You've submitted an invalid data.

Doctors have no mandate to disclose phi regarding his.

[quote author=50calibre post=32926737]

HIV is a reportable disease, not just is it in the public interest, it is also essential for statistical reasons as well as provision of ARV drugs.

Besides the degree of harm posed by these diseases you mentioned, pales in comparison to that posed by HIV. For one, HIV is incurable and requires life-long medication.[/quote

Hiv is not reportable.

omicron:
You go about deceiving people who may lack the medical foundation to comprehend these things.

Some state is USA has such laws.

Does Your Country or any state therein has such laws?

You should have read one of my posts where I referred one guy like you to the National Assembly.

Where did I deceive anybody? So posting a website information is equal to deception in your dictionary?

Meanwhile here is an article on the actions of a NIGERIAN DOCTOR for you to digest:

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3634234/

Doctor TO encouraged Mr. EC to disclose his HIV status to the wife as this will pave way for safer practices and necessary follow-up of the wife. They have been having unprotected sexual intercourse for about 6 months, and the wife might have been infected but still within the window period. He refused stating that his young wife will be shattered and the family put in peril. The doctor explained that otherwise might put both his wife and the family in greater peril. He refused and reminded the doctor of the principle of confidentiality, which he believed was absolute. This raised the ethical issue of confidentiality as well as the physician's duty to warn. Many workers have evaluated the issue of medical confidentiality,[ 5 – 9 ] and the consensus weighs in favor of duty to inform in certain conditions including infectious diseases like HIV, where the possibility of transmission to another unsuspecting partner might be very high.[ 4 ] The Royal College of Physicians Edinburgh asserts that HIV is such an infectious disease with serious physical and psychological morbidity consequent upon it; therefore, all efforts must be made to prevent its transmission to a vulnerable individual and this may involve breaking of the medical confidentiality.[ 7 ] With these considerations, Dr. TO informed Mr. EC that he, the doctor, would disclose his status to his wife at their next appointment if he had not done so himself.

50calibre:


If that's the way your "adult world" works, then I'd much rather remain where I am because to me that sounds more like a stup*dity world.

Of course you don't need to tell me where you work, I can already infer a lot from what you said. You probably work in some back alley Akara joint so it's understandable.

dude you're too funny. Really.

Enjoy your nazistic world where hpi is published on the frontpages.

I'm done with you dude and this thread.

To the healthcare workers thanks for upholding the ethics.

CityNG:


Please leave my name out of your hoppycock bs quotes.

You've submitted an invalid data.

Doctors have no mandate to disclose phi regarding his.

LoL no surprises here, the truth trumps any over sabi opinions.

omicron:
seriously? You are using wikipedia to counter the information from the CDC SERIOUSLY.

I give up.

Guy, just go. You are being too emotional to tell yourself the truth.

And if you were my patient, you will leave my consulting room better informed, and better at judging legal cases too.

What are you saying exactly? You can make this clear by explicitly stating where you stand. You shouldn't concern yourself with legal cases, that's not your duty.

So I ask you, would some confidentiality clause deter you from informing a patient who may be at risk of his/her spouse's status? Yes or No?

CityNG:


dude you're too funny. Really.

Enjoy your nazistic world where hpi is published on the frontpages.

Very poor attempt at sarcasm, we are talking about one's spouse here not those it doesn't concern.

I'm done with you dude and this thread.

To the healthcare workers thanks for upholding the ethics .

Of course!! Ethics over human lives, welcome to the wonderful world of CityNG loool do you even know what ethics mean?

CityNG:


Please leave my name out of your hoppycock bs quotes.

You've submitted an invalid data.

Doctors have no mandate to disclose phi regarding his.

Here digest this AMA ethics article:

journalofethics.ama-assn.org/2005/10/hlaw1-0510.html

Specifically with regard to HIV-infected patients, exceptions to confidentiality do exist. As stated in Opinion E-2.23:
If a physician knows that a seropositive individual is endangering a third party, the physician should, within the constraints of the law (1) attempt to persuade the infected patient to cease endangering the third party; (2) if persuasion fails, notify authorities; and (3) if the authorities take no action, notify the endangered third party [16].

As a policy matter, the AMA strongly recommends that all states adopt requirements for confidential HIV reporting to appropriate public health authorities for the purpose of contact tracing and partner notification [17]. The AMA encourages uniform protection of the identity of HIV patients that is consistent with public health departments and vows to continue to address, through the Council on Ethical and Judicial Affairs, the patient confidentiality and ethical issues raised by known HIV-positive patients who refuse to inform their sexual partners or modify their behavior [17]. The AMA also supports legislation on the physician's right to exercise ethical and clinical judgment regarding whether or not to warn unsuspecting and endangered sexual or needle-sharing partners of HIV-infected patients and promulgates the standard that a physician attempt to persuade an HIV-infected patient to cease all activities that endanger unsuspecting others and to inform those whom he or she might have infected. As stated above, if such persuasion fails, the physician is urged to pursue notification through means other than by reliance on the patient, such as by the Public Health Department or by the physician directly [17].

EggovinMma:



The man is also a careless man!

How is he careless?

Gamesmart:


How is he careless?

How can he marry a woman without seeking for her HIV status? Who does that? He was very careless! HIV no dey show for face na,he just slept with a woman and married her just like that?! It's really a stupid kind of careless if you ask me!

EggovinMma:

How can he marry a woman without seeking for her HIV status? Who does that? He was very careless! HIV no dey show for face na,he just slept with a woman and married her just like that?! It's really a stupid kind of careless if you ask me!

She could have presented a fake result.

LordReed:


She could have presented a fake result.

If that's the case, then his stupidity is x2 .
I have told people to fall in love with their brain! HIV test must be carried out in a government hospital by the two people involved same time!What's the fake result about it! This is outright carelessness!

Maybe it's just me, but if I happen to meet someone that wants raw sex, the first thing that screams on my mind is HIV! AIDS! HEPATITIS! STAPHY! .I no dey do mistake for that one o, my plan is to live healthy! If I want to marry today, I will check my fiance thoroughly, he can as well check me if he likes. I go check him body reach quality of him sperm.