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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by kodded(m): 4:46pm On Apr 29, 2015
Tydies:
I will always hate the SouthAfricans. Never will I use anything associating with them and I will make sure I will cut off the head of any ''black'' South African I come across.
am with you bro angry angry angry



it is high time the likes of mtn, go tv, shoprite and dstv start packing their bags angry angry angry




enough is enough angry
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by ogbuefiugo: 4:46pm On Apr 29, 2015
Make I no lie.

Dis thing pain me die!!

Chai!!!

See blocking.

angry

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by OlaoChi: 4:48pm On Apr 29, 2015
proxitaly:
wow!

Nigeria truly is under a curse.

Hated by the outside world,
Milked dry by her leaders,

Tribalism by her citizens

How do we even start saying this?

I wish years are moving in a circle, I wish to be in 1913 before this Lugard Miracle

God help us
Maybe disintegration is the answer after all
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 4:48pm On Apr 29, 2015
TheSonOfMark:

Just perfect. South Africa, please can you folks return the billions we sent to you (with interest ofcourse)? We need the money to help fund our economic ventures. Thank you in advance, idiots!
Well the idiott happens to be you, easily swayed by false propaganda
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by deltateam: 4:49pm On Apr 29, 2015
chronique:
I remember the Majek Fashek's hit track against the apartheid regime in the late 80's to early 90's. It's funny how all these events finally played out. Nigeria should learn to stop playing any big brother role to any African nation. Let's spend our resources to develop our country. If our neighbours like,let them die of hunger;that's their fucking business.

How can I ever forget it?

Now now now oh ... Eh eh eh Free Mandela!
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by mrham03(m): 4:49pm On Apr 29, 2015
iamord:
I even support us dropping this eco was of a thing. I hat all this one man show. Ecowas is not one country but 15 members playing roles in their respective ways. So everyone should be respected.
the problem abt ecowas is the french speaking west african countries like ivory coast, togo, senegal have their own alliance and they care abt themselves only whilst the english speaking west african countries arent united..... I agree with u... We must forget abt ecowas

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by JayJustus(m): 4:51pm On Apr 29, 2015
e concern me...I wasn't born then...hisses and walks outta thread
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 4:52pm On Apr 29, 2015
simplemach:
These people are ingreats, simple!
Well, the way you spell "Ingrates" it's clear you don't even know the meaning, just join the chorus hey!
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by iamord(m): 4:52pm On Apr 29, 2015
Ironi:
Even Ghana?

Maybe you are ignorant so you show no respect.

Ghana was the Mecca of the liberation struggles of Africa, including Nigeria.
Maybe you have to go learn some history.

Ghana was at the forefront of Africa's liberation struggles , giving out money and training hundreds of Africans for the purpose.


Show some respect.
thank you. While I feel Nigeria deserves to be included for its immense support. One thing we should learn from this is humility... Don't go and sit at the high table until you are called.

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by ogene007: 4:52pm On Apr 29, 2015
This is a classical case of A new Pharaoh who never knew Joseph taking over South Africa. That shows how times have really changed changed. Posterity will judge all men.

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 50calibre(m): 4:53pm On Apr 29, 2015
SirShymexx:
Before folks go on a rampage like blinkered oafs...I think Nigeria should provide solid proofs that it actually supported the anti-apartheid struggle overtly and adequately like all the country listed.

Nigeria is also not listed in all academic sources that I've read about the anti-apartheid struggle. Even Libya and Gaddafi, which appeared in most academic sources isn't on this list. So, whatever "help" they're alluding to here, might be different from whatever you think you gave.

Anyway, I know Nigeria did try to support to Angola during the bloody civil war in that country, against the West and Apartheid SA. But the man who was championing it, Murtala Muhammed, was assassinated before he started - and those who took over were CIA moles who never bothered after that. This one is well documented - but the South African one isn't in any academic source.

And if you want to allude to songs/speeches - a lot of African Americans, and blacks in the new world also did that. But they also didn't get any recognition. So, apply wisdom.

Lol you need to re-check your sources, Nigeria was not just a proactive supporter but a major financier of the anti-apartheid movement. It granted asylums to many black South Africans involved in the struggle, including Mandela.

The guy who mentioned the nationalisation of BP to AP, did so to highlight part of the diplomatic tit-for-tat which ensued after Nigeria pulled out of the commonwealth games in protest against the Thatcher administration's open support of the apartheid regime.

Another retaliatory move on the part of Britain was imposing visa requirements on Nigerians before they could enter Britain... Which was previously not the case. Nigerians used to be able to enter into Britain visa-free till this saga.

All these are verifiable information, they're out there.

Don't you find it ironical that Britain's name was included in that list when the British prime minister at the height of the anti-apartheid struggle (Margaret Thatcher) famously branded Mandela a terrorist?

I'm not always one to support Nigerians and their inflated sense on greatness, but this is a clear move by South Africa to spite Nigeria and re-write their own version of history.

Watch this video, you get a clearer perspective. This was Mandela's first official visit after he left prison.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlRMmNhsg9Y

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 4:54pm On Apr 29, 2015
nerodenero:
Pained bastards!

It is good we now know that South Africa is indeed our enemy. What goes around, comes around.
The obsession with South Africa is quite mindboggling! Jesus!

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 4:55pm On Apr 29, 2015
okoloikenna:
My fellow nigerians it's high time we ignored d's ignorant/uneducated south Africans and concentrate our energy on how to move our country (NIGERIA ) forward

To dose of us agitating d closure of Mtn DSTV and other south african investments in nigeria all I can say to u all is pls my dear think again cos wen a mad man slaps u in d public u dnt slap back to show ur strength

D's south african investments in nigeria has indirectly blessed more Dan 10 million nigerians think of d
1 Job employment ( DSTV MTN SHOPRITE)( over 1 million nigerians )
2 Mtn scholarship to our young ones in higher institution
3 rural development brought abt by this companies

Den tell me shutting down this companies how will it affect us positively

Rem dnt slap a mad man Wen he slaps u jus apply WISDOM
Uneducated? What is Nigeria's Literacy rate again?

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by SirShymexx: 4:56pm On Apr 29, 2015
ubecharles:
. Nigeria sponsored gave thousands of them scholarship to school any where in the world. One of them was my senior back then in 80s at University of Lagos medical school, and the chap was a drunk that he once fell off the pavement on the third floor of one of the hostel. He survived sha

Okay. A few scholarships for black South African students. Laudable, but that doesn't negate the fact that Nigeria never really helped in the actual struggle like other countries did.

Anyway, Nigeria back then was in shambles, with all kinds of rogues running around. The government that took over from 1985, to the end of apartheid regime - was neck deep in Iran Contra, helping CIA and Ronald Reagan move drugs through Nigeria from Iran/Afghanistan to the streets of America to funds war in Nicaragua and arm sales to Iran. While maintaining cosy relationship with Margaret Thatcher and Israel. And Ronald Reagan, Israel, and Margaret Thatcher supported the apartheid regime.

So, once you start breaking it down, the truth will smack you in the face. It's bitter but it's always better to accept it, and make amends after that.

That was the way folks were getting emotional during the xenophobic attacks. And the Tinubu man just alluded to everything I posted on those threads. A lot of you need proper education - emotions won't go you lot anywhere. Nigeria messed up!
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by baslone: 4:57pm On Apr 29, 2015
Anyi3:
Before we all go on attacking South Africa.

Does anyone really have solid proof to support Nigeria's active support against apartheid?

I attended Federal Government college.

We had plenty south africans/namibians schooling,feeding and accomodating for free!!!

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Nobody: 4:58pm On Apr 29, 2015
Did Nigeria help defeat Apartheid in other to turn SA into a vassal fiefdom? Whatever happened to altruism; fine, you people helped defeat Apartheid but you're always quick to point this out, you rob our efforts of any dignity. The struggle against Apartheid was not just an SA thing, it was a struggle to gain equality for the Negro races, we wanted these people to be free in their own homeland and to be able to make their own decisions;

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by iamord(m): 4:59pm On Apr 29, 2015
mrham03:
the problem abt ecowas is the french speaking west african countries like ivory coast, togo, senegal have their own alliance and they care abt themselves only whilst the english speaking west african countries arent united..... I agree with u... We must forget abt ecowas
the internal integration has been one of our major problems. We have a big market within of which we can trade and build our economies. But everyone seems to be rasing shoulder.
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Michaelgates(m): 5:00pm On Apr 29, 2015
Those animals? They do not have brains to process things like that. In south african schools, they delibrately omitted Nigeria's part in their history books. That is to show u how jealous and ungrateful they are.

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Nobody: 5:01pm On Apr 29, 2015
This is a BIG slap on us! The only way Nigeria can pay them back in their own coin is to develop Nigeria better than South Africa,make it the true giant of Africa;a home for all africans,envy of all other African countries where her citizens will walk with their heads held up high and can move around the world without being harassed and descriminated upon;and more importantly cut all ties with sa and Indonesia.
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 5:01pm On Apr 29, 2015
Xion:
Ojo ore pe, asiere gbagbe... The day to show gratitude has come, and the foolish one has forgotten... (Yoruba Proverb)
So much"The Giants Of Africa" you guys are the crybabies of Africa! What exactly are you so upset about? What do you guys want? A Medal? Money? All this anger due to "Shout Outs?" You guys are'nt serious, This anger is better direct to your authorities to help free the Chibok girls for god's sake!

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by mikron(m): 5:01pm On Apr 29, 2015
Do u expect them to acknowledge us when they see us as a major threat to them? South Africa can never be like us, remove all d developments and infrastructures d whiteman built there South Africa will be worse than Cameroon infrastructure wise. They will be compared to Botswana. Even with our challenges of fighting boko haram and other vices we re still the biggest economy in Africa. Why won't they beef us? I love my country naija. Good or bad the land is green. The best country on mother earth. A country without hurricanes, earthquakes, typhoons, volcano eruptions, famine etc. A land blessed with abundant foods like beans, tomatoes, onions, cabbage, lettuce, yams not forgetting livestocks in the north, Palm oil, cassava, bananas/plantains etc in the South. Cocoa, rubber, kolanut, cassava etc in d West and natural palm wine, Palm oil, etc. A land full of natural resources-oil and gas, bitumen, coal,tin and columbite, steel, Cooper, etc. Woooooow what a country, a country where anything grows without the aid of fertilizer. I love NIGERIA. My sweet mother land.

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 5:02pm On Apr 29, 2015
njays24:
This is a BIG slap on us! The only way Nigeria can pay them back in their own coin is to develop Nigeria better than South Africa,make it the true giant of Africa;a home for all africans,envy of all other African countries where her citizens will walk with their heads held up high and can move around the world without being harassed and descriminated upon;and more importantly cut all ties with sa and Indonesia.
South Africa, Indonesia and a host of other countries

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by MosakuAW(m): 5:03pm On Apr 29, 2015
But how Naija musicians like Alh. Ayinla Kollington, Late Barrister, Alh. Wasiu Ayinde and so many others fought for SA with their song. I beg make them recongnise that jare.
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 2ndejoj(m): 5:03pm On Apr 29, 2015
meanwhile when will they return our siezed arms deal money? that will b a good way to start at least they can use the intrest from the money to beta thier lives.
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Nobody: 5:04pm On Apr 29, 2015
Whats beef grin
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 5:04pm On Apr 29, 2015
edi287:
So?? I think its about time we leave these south africans alone. Every damn day its "SA this" "SA that"....its starting to get boring.
They don't want foreigners in their country, then leave and chase out mtn, shoprite, game from naija.
Making it seem like they're the only country in the world to migrate to.
Complaining everytime of how they hate us looks/makes it look like every Nigerian is begging for them to accept and "love us" which is bullshit....never force yourself on anyone who doesn't give a shit about you.
amen to this!

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by vislabraye(m): 5:06pm On Apr 29, 2015
Samirana360:
I knw nigeria and south africa ar draggin 4 africa power...who will rule d continent
?
South africa ar nt happy dat nigeria is called giant of africa dat's y they so hate nigeria..
Buh d truth remains dat





We ar giant of africa. Our only problem is corruption



It's jealousy.
May be we should do awqy with South African companies.
Let us see who will lose more.
Our leaderw sef.
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by 989900: 5:07pm On Apr 29, 2015
Anyi3:
Before we all go on attacking South Africa.

Does anyone really have solid proof to support Nigeria's active support against apartheid?

How old are you and those kids that liked your post?
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by LeSudAfricaine: 5:08pm On Apr 29, 2015
kodded:
[s][/s]


fvck you and dont ever quote me again you hiv and aids freaks angry angry angry
Struck a nerve! Ha ha ha!
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by Asiwaju9ja(m): 5:08pm On Apr 29, 2015
Kenai:
The final nail on the coffin of Nigeria's Sense of entitlement?
Twitter user @Mokhathi recently paid a visit to his native Freedom Park in South Africa, a park/museum created in honor of the Black Liberation struggle and the eventual abolishment of Apartheid. And inside the museum rests a board/Plaque recognizing and appreciating the various countries that came to their aid in numerous fields during those trying times.

But what I found most interesting is the fact that Nigeria wasn't for once mentioned on that list.
Take a look and examine the list yourselves:




When you juxtapose this with the numerous stories we've heard about how Nigerian leaders spent billions helping South Africa as well as arm-twisting the Brits by indigenizing their companies, it's even more weird. Even Ghana, Tanzania, Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia and Lesotho were recognized, but not the self-proclaimed Giant of Africa with its "Big Daddy" complex.

Isn't it funny that, during the decade Nigerian military officers were spending those billions of dollars "helping" far away South Africa, Bayelsa wasn't even on the national grid?
Isn't it funny that, during the decade our "leaders" were spending those billions, numerous towns and villages in the Niger Delta had its locals drinking, washing, bathing, swimmig, DEFECATING, cooking and EATING from the same water source?

Isn't it funny that the same country "spending billions" to "liberate" another couldn't even boast of reliable electricity or a functional steel mill to aid its industrial sector?

This is when you begin to ask if the so-called 'Black Emancipation' spree, embarked on by our leaders at that period, was really an honest fight for justice or one big, overbloated ego trip meant to serve their interests and line their pockets. From the oil boom of the 70's which only translated to flashy, nonsensical Jamborees like FESTAC77 and ECOMOG noise, were the 70's and 80's really about exemplary Leadership or just self-serving idiocy?

As a final shot, I'd advise my fellow Nigerians (especially our leaders) to shun this "pan African" foolishines and FOCUS on just serving the people who elected them, not some strangers hundreds of miles away!

Pan-Africanism is a FARCE. Has always been so; will always be so.


PS: E really pain this my guy! grin




http://www.anc.org.za/show.php?id=4334

http://allafrica.com/stories/201504220787.html

http://www.panapress.com/Mandela---SA-needs-to-appreciate-Nigeria-s-role-in-ending-apartheid---15-889153-30-lang2-index.html


http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&Itemid=111&catid=56:diplomacy-a-peace&view=article&id=23419:south-africa-praises-nigerian-military-for-its-apartheid-era-help

http://africanactivist.msu.edu/organization.php?name=National+Committee+Against+Apartheid
Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by xtervaganza(m): 5:09pm On Apr 29, 2015
Anyi3:
Before we all go on attacking South Africa.

Does anyone really have solid proof to support Nigeria's active support against apartheid?
I'm not 100% sure but one of their former president went to university on Nigeria's scholarship

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Re: PHOTO: SA Lists States That Helped Their Apartheid Fight - Nigeria Not Listed! by ogaprime(m): 5:09pm On Apr 29, 2015
okoloikenna:
My fellow nigerians it's high time we ignored d's ignorant/uneducated south Africans and concentrate our energy on how to move our country (NIGERIA ) forward

To dose of us agitating d closure of Mtn DSTV and other south african investments in nigeria all I can say to u all is pls my dear think again cos wen a mad man slaps u in d public u dnt slap back to show ur strength

D's south african investments in nigeria has indirectly blessed more Dan 10 million nigerians think of d
1 Job employment ( DSTV MTN SHOPRITE)( over 1 million nigerians )
2 Mtn scholarship to our young ones in higher institution
3 rural development brought abt by this companies

Den tell me shutting down this companies how will it affect us positively

Rem dnt slap a mad man Wen he slaps u jus apply WISDOM


What about Nigeria taking over those companies but still maintaining their workforce, principles and objectives and de revenue of those companies will be directed to federal account....what about that??

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