SirShymexx:


If you had the whole sentence - you'd understand that Mandela was just being PC, with the first phrase - while chastising Nigeria in the rest. He was in prison, locked away from everything on an Island. So he didn't know much about what happened at the peak of it.

As a Nigerian, you ought to feel ashamed, when you start opening every book - and you keep seeing Nigeria's name omitted from the real players, despite having resources needed to have done a lot. Hence anything folks ask me who I think was the best Nigerian leader ever - I'll always tout Murtala Muhammed for the speech he gave at the OAU before he was assassinated.

Nigeria let everyone down during that era, and that's the honest truth.

kodded:

if you are a nigerian you better act like one and quite acting like a cunt !...........but if you are from south africa then am telling you to stay the fvck out of this forum........you ugly hiv and aids xenophobic are not welcome here......because this forum belong to nigeria and not yee ugly cunt...... So stay clear.....









......Thanks

iamord:
so true. While we all know Nigeria deserves to be in that list. The above point is one of the things Nigerians don't seem to understand.

simplemach:
sanu..., fault finder, professor of english language.

bakynes:

My friend what is your problem? can't u read and comprehend Mandela said it himself he heard from his people outside after he left prison about the contributions of Nigeria to the struggle of his people during the Aparthied regime. Don't let me insult you pls.

bakynes:

My friend what is your problem? can't u read and comprehend Mandela said it himself he heard from his people outside after he left prison about the contributions of Nigeria to the struggle of his people during the Aparthied regime. Don't let me insult you pls.

Samirana360:

am not ashame 2 call nigeria d giant of africa coz dat's what we ar....d fact dat corruption is everywhere does nt mean we ar nt giant of africa....check our economy and judge rightly...

Or if u ar nt a nigeria, go and fall inside lagoon

Headlamp1:


While should he sit down when he is making a valid point?

We really do love to catch feelings over things that are non-issue.

Financial support, arms, etc It is not in record that Nigeria provided any for South Africa during its apartheid so why should Nigeria be mentioned in the plaque?

You want them to include Nigeria falsely in the list or what?

chronique:
I remember the Majek Fashek's hit track against the apartheid regime in the late 80's to early 90's. It's funny how all these events finally played out. Nigeria should learn to stop playing any big brother role to any African nation. Let's spend our resources to develop our country. If our neighbours like,let them die of hunger;that's their fucking business.

989900:


#comprehensionissues

LeSudAfricaine:
Firstly, you reason like a child, secondly, if it's in the internet, it ceases to be Nigerian, INTER +NETWORK =INTERNET, get it dumbo? And Oh, you don't this forum, so you can go to hell!....Oh I forgot you're already there! Ha ha ha!

bakynes:

Sir Shymexx and the South African this is proof for you that Nigeria contributed immensely to the freedom of Black South Africans during the Aparthied regime. This confirms the hate South Africans have towards us Case closed

SirShymexx:


This is just paradoxical cos you just exposed ya illiteracy.

Did you read the full sentence, and not just the first bit? When you can read full sentences, you'll see what carrot and stick is.

Mandela was in prison, locked up on an Island when the struggle gained momentum - he wasn't privy to much.

Anyway, when you start opening history books, you'll be shocked with ya mouth wide open, after seeing how Nigeria messed up.

Ipledge:
When I HEARD some civil servants even donate some percentage of their salaries


It's a lesson for our incoming leaders.... I know if you ask malians who help push back their rebels,they may also exclude Nigeria

Headlamp1:



Nigeria does NOT deserve to be in that list.

Headlamp1:



If I may ask you, what is the general opinion of the South Africans towards Nigeria as regards the apartheid struggle and what is your own personal opinion?

iamord:
the internal integration has been one of our major problems. We have a big market within of which we can trade and build our economies. But everyone seems to be rasing shoulder.

Fourwinds:
go and check countries with reputation., dey have dese qualities.: low corruption rate., strong and stable currency., military expedicture., quality leadership.,viable economy., treat citizens with almost respect.,very patriotic., to list a few. please tell me how many does Nigeria possesses. d likes of USA., Britain.,China.,Japan., Russia.,France.,Israel.,Saudi Arabia.,Taiwan.,South Korea and many more have some of dese if not all. Such contries display authority.FYI I am a Nigerian

bakynes:
The hatred South Africans have towards us is legendary. Just like Jonathan wasn't allowed to speak @ Mandela's burial. I believe Nigeria contributed towards stopping the Aparthied regime if not Mandela wouldn't have visited Nigeria after he was released from Prison. Countries like Britain and their Dutch slave masters (Netherlands) who maltreated them were listed to have supported the Aparthied government, countries like Czech and USSR were racist and wouldn't have supported them much yet they recognized them and didn't recognize a fellow black nation that helped them.Like many have said is time we stop this big brother attitude, just like nearby Ghana benefiting from our huge contributions to ECOWAS they still hate us.

0m0naija:
I had to register in other to post this..

Guys let it go its really not worth it.

http://www.defenceweb.co.za/index.php?option=com_content&Itemid=111&catid=56:diplomacy-a-peace&view=article&id=23419:south-africa-praises-nigerian-military-for-its-apartheid-era-help

LeSudAfricaine:
amen to this!

989900:


All you've said is='Mandela is senile, just believe what I tell you . . . lol'.

SirShymexx:


Brev, I hear that. Granting asylum on the pages of newspapers is one thing - giving it out to people is another thing. I believe the names of all the important folks in ANC, Steve Bantu Biko's black consciousness group et al are out there for folks to search. How many of them were granted asylum in Nigeria? How many those who were trained in guerrilla warfare were trained in Nigeria? There's no academic sources for it, and you can provide it, if you have any. All the names I know were never granted asylum in Nigeria. I believe Mandela was being PC as possible for cordial relationship - and he wasn't even out there at the peak of the struggle. He was in prison and was privy to little or nothing.

The nationalisation of BP was made about apartheid politically - but I doubt that was actually the reason why it was nationalised. Apartheid was just an excuse for convenience. The whole thing was more complicated albeit vague Check the academic source attached to this post below (the highlighted bit).

The imposition of visa requirements on Nigeria by Margaret Thatcher had absolutely nothing to do with tit-for-tat or apartheid. The UK economy was in shambles and they needed to reduce/curb immigration, and that coincided with a period when a lot of the Nigerian middle class were leaving the country en masse to the UK. The brain drain period started then.

We as Nigerians need to look at things critically before always pointing fingers. The world doesn't revolve around Nigeria alone - neither does Africa. Let our actions judge who who are and not our vacuous and overblown sense of arrogance. That's how to maintain cordial relationship with everyone based on mutual respect.

SirShymexx:
Before folks go on a rampage like blinkered oafs...I think Nigeria should provide solid proofs that it actually supported the anti-apartheid struggle overtly and adequately like all the country listed.

Nigeria is also not listed in all academic sources that I've read about the anti-apartheid struggle. Even Libya and Gaddafi, which appeared in most academic sources isn't on this list. So, whatever "help" they're alluding to here, might be different from whatever you think you gave.

Anyway, I know Nigeria did try to support to Angola during the bloody civil war in that country, against the West and Apartheid SA. But the man who was championing it, Murtala Muhammed, was assassinated before he started - and those who took over were CIA moles who never bothered after that. This one is well documented - but the South African one isn't in any academic source.

And if you want to allude to songs/speeches - a lot of African Americans, and blacks in the new world also did that. But they also didn't get any recognition. So, apply wisdom.

50calibre:

Lol can you cite me one of those academic sources?

Obviously, Nigeria couldn't have granted asylum to every single anti-apartheid activist, Nigeria was just one of the frontline states, there were other countries as well.

The frontline countries provided support in various capacities be it training, logistics, diplomatic or financial support.

As for the source pictured, that's nothing but mere skepticism/speculation from one Ann Genova, it is not fact but journalistic cynicism and it is never to be taken ahead of the official story from the Nigerian government except there's solid evidence to prove other ulterior motives.

As for Margaret Thatcher imposing visa requirements, maybe you're right, that may be been the official reason that was given, so I can't argue on that without any counter evidence however some would say the timing leaves more to be answered.

History cannot be white-washed, if countries like Lesotho & Tanzania can be on the list, then Nigeria double-deserves a mention.

The list even includes Britain (who actually supported the apartheid regime) proving its nothing but a sham and nonsensical list.

Nigerians are cocky, arrogant and even delusional but the truth remains the truth.. And this is one of those cases where sadly, fabricated history cannot replace irrefutable facts.


http://nigeriaworld.com/articles/2008/may/261.html

http://www.safpi.org/news/article/2013/south-africa-needs-appreciate-nigeria-s-role-ending-apartheid

http://www.citypress.co.za/columnists/mandela-memorial-nigeria-left/

Wislet:
MY PEOPLE, LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE TO SAY........


STOP GIVING SOUTH AFRICA OR ANY COUNTRY THAT DECIDES TO HATE ON THIS COUNTRY UNNECESSARY ATTENTION.

Our attention, observations, analyses and recommendations are needed right here IN THE COUNTRY.
STOP WASTING IT OUTSIDE.


OKAY. NIGERIA DID NOT CONTRIBUTE IN ANY WAY TO THE FIGHT AGAINST APARTHEID. And so?


Does it make us any less a nation or is it going to affect our economy or make our roads not be built or create unemployment, or get you out of job, or make you not get visa to travel, or keep you unmarried, or deny you visa to travel, or make you not get that job, or buy that house?

Exactly what is it going to remove from our lives?


Nigeria has tried a lot for Africa. IT IS TIME WE CHANNEL OUR FULL ATTENTION, MONEY AND TALENTS TO DEVELOPING THE COUNTRY AND CHANGE OUR OWN LIVES.


I honestly do not see the reason why anyone will frown, or shout or even curse them. It takes nothing away from you.


FOCUS ON YOURSELF, QUIT ETHNIC BIGOTRY AND APPLAUDING OF HOOLIGANISM, AND LET'S SEND CROOKS TO WHERE THEY BELONG.

Nigeria must soar.

Ipledge:
When I heard some civil servants even donate some percentage of their salaries


It's a lesson for our incoming leaders.... I know if you ask malians who help push back their rebels,they may also exclude Nigeria