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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by dkings101(m): 6:39pm On May 11, 2015
robonski15:

The bigger ones you weigh were around 2.2 kg which will make up for the smaller ones of which you showed me their random weight with your scale. with the medium 0.8 and smallest 0.5 to 0.6.

What's the cost of feeding per fish till maturity? Want to get it right the third time. So I knw hw much fish to rear and hw much capital I wd be investing...thanks.

Also hw much does melange goes for nw per kg?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 6:43pm On May 11, 2015
robonski15:

The bigger ones you weigh were around 2.2 kg which will make up for the smaller ones of which you showed me their random weight with your scale. with the medium 0.8 and smallest 0.5 to 0.6.
how bro am optimistic about d sales still pains upon d farmer that come along with me that day still loose in sales so painful.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 6:45pm On May 11, 2015
robonski15:

The bigger ones you weigh were around 2.2 kg which will make up for the smaller ones of which you showed me their random weight with your scale. with the medium 0.8 and smallest 0.5 to 0.6.
how bro am optimistic about d sales still pains upon d farmer that come along with me that day still loose in sales so painful. d buyer was saying that he will buy d one of 0.5 kg #250 still painful about d loss of d sales it pains me heavily.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 6:54pm On May 11, 2015
Hello all. How is family and the farm?

Wait o, you allowed buyers use their scale? Why? Why don't you also compare and contrast with your scale and see if what the fishes weigh on their scale it weigh in yours too?

Sorry about the loss.

I was with my manager last month when he sold fishes, he took total charge, he used like two scales to compare and contrast. When they both gave conflicting weights he said he is not selling until he get a third scale. Also he never mind those sellers crying of how Inconvenienting it is for them to go back and return the next day.

For where now. After my sweat?

Also, what you sell for is pretty cheap.

A kg for 480? Na with beg he dey use sell per kg for 600.

Please, where is your location? Need to start business.

My fishes are doing well. Thank God I quickly start buying the feed on my own. Will sell them next month by God's grace at five months.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jaz(m): 6:55pm On May 11, 2015
35 WHAT?? DAMN !! I'MA KILL SOMEONE FOR THAT!!!
Belexy:


Sorry for ur loss boss. .. Always try to have about two people with u wen selling. One person will monitor the scale and record, and the other person is to do general monitoring of wats going on around. Fish buyers steal fish alot. Sometimes dey can steal two baffs of fish frm you and u wont notice unless someone is there to catch dem. It has happenes to me and dey stole a full 35kg baff. They always steal anytime they come to buy so be vigilant.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jaz(m): 6:58pm On May 11, 2015
Men the guy's loss is really sad. just looking at the comments on it. guess he has his eyes open and clearer now
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 7:19pm On May 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
how bro am optimistic about d sales still pains upon d farmer that come along with me that day still loose in sales so painful. d buyer was saying that he will buy d one of 0.5 kg #250 still painful about d loss of d sales it pains me heavily.

Bros, please where is your location? Wait, 250 per fish or per kg for the smaller ones of 0.5kg?

In December my colleague sold his fishes 650/kg in ikorodu.

On the Lagos Island depending on the size it's 600 upward.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by dkings101(m): 7:38pm On May 11, 2015
It's high time we formed a union cos this price is just too low, the ppl making the gains are the market women...I see them as extortionist. We need a union or association so we can stick to a uniform price.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jamyde: 8:13pm On May 11, 2015
@ sir johnnyessence,sorry for the loss, the Lord shall comfort u...lets try to start the union suggested by mr dking because a newbie like me is afraid of these dubious buyers.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 8:38pm On May 11, 2015
dkings101:
It's high time we formed a union cos this price is just too low, the ppl making the gains are the market women...I see them as extortionist. We need a union or association so we can stick to a uniform price.
exactly we need a union that will specialized on d buying and selling Cos' this extortion from d baba elejas and Iya elejas is much so much frustrated to the extent of giving up in fish farming Cos' it's not easy been laboured for 5 months plus still got loss from it. in fact if I remember all d loss of d profit I usually weep Cos' it pains me hard so painful to me when people cheat me in a way that av been well informed than ever before.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:40pm On May 11, 2015
olubankemi:
Hello all. How is family and the farm?

Wait o, you allowed buyers use their scale? Why? Why don't you also compare and contrast with your scale and see if what the fishes weigh on their scale it weigh in yours too?

Sorry about the loss.

I was with my manager last month when he sold fishes, he took total charge, he used like two scales to compare and contrast. When they both gave conflicting weights he said he is not selling until he get a third scale. Also he never mind those sellers crying of how Inconvenienting it is for them to go back and return the next day.

For where now. After my sweat?

Also, what you sell for is pretty cheap.

A kg for 480? Na with beg he dey use sell per kg for 600.

Please, where is your location? Need to start business.

My fishes are doing well. Thank God I quickly start buying the feed on my own. Will sell them next month by God's grace at five months.


Mehn!!! Your manager eye dey red oooo. two scales? and still looking for the third... choi I like strong willed men like him.. I also love how he sent the buyers away, don't pity them at all at all.. be in charge of how you wana sell, its our fishes we spent 5 months with feeding nurturing them. lets be wise as fish farmers.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 8:40pm On May 11, 2015
jamyde:
@ sir johnnyessence,sorry for the loss, the Lord shall comfort u...lets try to start the union suggested by mr dking because a newbie like me is afraid of these dubious buyers.
bro Thks for d advice am ready for d Union to takes place Cos' most of d Union they are forming around in different state are so worst Cos' there's no love between them,no love ,no hope .and when there's no love among ourselves there will be serious fight.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:48pm On May 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
exactly we need a union that will specialized on d buying and selling Cos' this extortion from d baba elejas and Iya elejas is much so much frustrated to the extent of giving up in fish farming Cos' it's not easy been laboured for 5 months plus still got loss from it. in fact if I remember all d loss of d profit I usually weep Cos' it pains me hard so painful to me when people cheat me in a way that av been well informed than ever before.

My bro gather yourself together and lets get back to the drawing board. I also failed three times but I didn't give up, infact I was owing people money here and there from the money I borrowed for feeding..To me catfish business is a GAME and if you don't play well you will ultimately loose out. be strong, keep your head up, remember there is always light at the end of the tunnel..

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 8:53pm On May 11, 2015
I feel like crying when I remember again on d huge loss of d profit I weep deeply Cos' it pained me from d bottom of my heart .from me things will begin to change trully av learned my lesson if d baba eleja is d one that cheat me also if it is d people surrounding d place that eat it to that extent I give vageance to God who is d author and finisher of our faith to judge .I weep again when I remember about d huge loss.pls and pls I want to inform everyone rearing fish at this time should be very careful not only that prayers help but action is d best .if d baba elejas cheat me I give judgement to God and if it's my mistake d Lord will strengthen me and takeover that day when I record it I said no one can stop me from achieving my dreams in life.av tried enough to rear these fishes d Lord will crown all my effort. pls let us form Union even on nairaland here let us form Union in other for us not to be cheated again. even if it's travelling down to buy from our members is good d Lord will strengthened us bye.

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 8:59pm On May 11, 2015
robonski15:


My bro gather yourself together and lets get back to the drawing board. I also failed three times but I didn't give up, infact I was owing people money here and there from the money I borrowed for feeding..To me catfish business is a GAME and if you don't play well you will ultimately loose out. be strong, keep your head up, remember there is always light at the end of the tunnel..
yes bro Roland I could remember a book written by john Maxwell which said that failure in life is a stepping stones to success .by failing on one side u will be Able to rise from d point u av failed and succeed .I strongly believe that things is gonna change for good for me .I could remember some words of bro excelsior who is among my coach that always said in fish farming u loose in one bit u gain av learnt my lesson no problem but it pains me much.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 9:09pm On May 11, 2015
Johnnyessence:
bro Thks for d advice am ready for d Union to takes place Cos' most of d Union they are forming around in different state are so worst Cos' there's no love between them,no love ,no hope .and when there's no love among ourselves there will be serious fight.
my points exactly johneey, most of these so called union are infested with greedy people, I am a member of two union but trust me they are nothing to write home about, quarrel here and there, back biting, no love, and full of retired men and women who lack foresight.. I just decided to lay low and keep doing my thing.. But if we can have a generation of young and vibrant farmers who are willing to come together and think with mind blowing ideas on how to move forward the sky will be our starting point.

www.agricnetwork.com
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 9:40pm On May 11, 2015
robonski15:

my points exactly johneey, most of these so called union are infested with greedy people, I am a member of two union but trust me they are nothing to write home about, quarrel here and there, back biting, no love, and full of retired men and women who lack foresight.. I just decided to lay low and keep doing my thing.. But if we can have a generation of young and vibrant farmers who are willing to come together and think with mind blowing ideas on how to move forward the sky will be our starting point.

www.agricnetwork.com
yes bro Roland u make a point here when there's no love there will be no peace around us imagine we are witnessing this horrible things among ourselves when is things going to be great when we are facing these challenges .quarrel here quarell there chaiiiiii.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Tbagwell1(m): 10:39pm On May 11, 2015
1. Buy ur own scale, it not more than 5k
2. Never weigh more than 25kg @a time.
3. Do they weighing by yourself for yourself, if you have spent a lot of money and energy feeding your fish 4 5months then I don't see a reason y you shldnt finish up the Good work.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 11:15pm On May 11, 2015
olubankemi:
Hello all. How is family and the farm?

Wait o, you allowed buyers use their scale? Why? Why don't you also compare and contrast with your scale and see if what the fishes weigh on their scale it weigh in yours too?

Sorry about the loss.

I was with my manager last month when he sold fishes, he took total charge, he used like two scales to compare and contrast. When they both gave conflicting weights he said he is not selling until he get a third scale. Also he never mind those sellers crying of how Inconvenienting it is for them to go back and return the next day.

For where now. After my sweat?

Also, what you sell for is pretty cheap.

A kg for 480? Na with beg he dey use sell per kg for 600.

Please, where is your location? Need to start business.

My fishes are doing well. Thank God I quickly start buying the feed on my own. Will sell them next month by God's grace at five months.


Per KG N600 ..... Where? how? ... Not possible joor. Was d person selling in bulk to market women? Did u witness d sales at N600? wats d average size of d fish dat were being sold?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Nobody: 11:54pm On May 11, 2015
Belexy:


Per KG N600 ..... Where? how? ... Not possible joor. Was d person selling in bulk to market women? Did u witness d sales at N600? wats d average size of d fish dat were being sold?

Oga MI, na I don't do lies. Rather don't post than lie. I was there, a day to good Friday last month was when the sales took place. Went to farm and I met buyers in the farm. And in my Koro Koro eyes the transaction took place. 600/kg. The fishes weren't even that weighing, 1.3 the biggest.

My colleague sold 650 that one I no dey there he told me.

My elder sister sold for his boss @650/kg with shakara as well.

That is why I said it's better I start business with this instead of rearing. Lol.

Yes @oga Robonski, . Me self pity the buyers but he called me and said they are thieves and one must not do like oh of you don't buy no other buyer. And you know what? Before he asked them to go, they were rubbishing the fishes that they are not big, complaining and complaining. I saw their desperation when he said he is not selling because the scales where giving conflicting measures and needed a third scale to see which two will have the same weight measure.

He drove them away under the hurt sun and asked them to come the next day.

One of them asked to call his son to bring her scale and he said Never.

He does not also allow them to touch his scale he will shout like a mad dog.

@Jonnyessence, don't be mad at yourself. You have learnt and you can never be cheated nmore.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Olamitisoji(m): 1:03am On May 12, 2015
Can anyone tell how much it will cost to rear 3oooo fishes and the amount that will be realised in 4months
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Belexy(m): 7:31am On May 12, 2015
olubankemi:


Oga MI, na I don't do lies. Rather don't post than lie. I was there, a day to good Friday last month was when the sales took place. Went to farm and I met buyers in the farm. And in my Koro Koro eyes the transaction took place. 600/kg. The fishes weren't even that weighing, 1.3 the biggest.

My colleague sold 650 that one I no dey there he told me.

My elder sister sold for his boss @650/kg with shakara as well.

That is why I said it's better I start business with this instead of rearing. Lol.

Yes @oga Robonski, . Me self pity the buyers but he called me and said they are thieves and one must not do like oh of you don't buy no other buyer. And you know what? Before he asked them to go, they were rubbishing the fishes that they are not big, complaining and complaining. I saw their desperation when he said he is not selling because the scales where giving conflicting measures and needed a third scale to see which two will have the same weight measure.

He drove them away under the hurt sun and asked them to come the next day.

One of them asked to call his son to bring her scale and he said Never.

He does not also allow them to touch his scale he will shout like a mad dog.

@Jonnyessence, don't be mad at yourself. You have learnt and you can never be cheated nmore.

Okay oh... Good for them; maybe we can all sell at N600 per kilo once it becomes a trend smiley
When u are harvesting make sure that man/manager gets u his buyers and does the negotiations for you bcoz its almost impossible to get fish buyers (bulk buyers) in Lagos that will pay above N500 per kilo during non-festive seasons. For it to even be N500 per kilo, it has to be big fishes of like 1.2kg and above. Below 1kg and you will even be begging some buyers with N480.
If u are selling just few kilos (like 2 or 3 fishes) to an individual or friend in d area, yes u can even sell at N700 per kilo depending on how big d fish is and ur marketing strategy.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by dkings101(m): 9:09am On May 12, 2015
robonski15:

my points exactly johneey, most of these so called union are infested with greedy people, I am a member of two union but trust me they are nothing to write home about, quarrel here and there, back biting, no love, and full of retired men and women who lack foresight.. I just decided to lay low and keep doing my thing.. But if we can have a generation of young and vibrant farmers who are willing to come together and think with mind blowing ideas on how to move forward the sky will be our starting point.

www.agricnetwork.com

Oga Robonski15 u never tell me hw much melange goes for nw. I am ready to sell them off and go back to the drawing board. Also I have post and juveniles for sale too.

Hw much can does it take to feed 1 fish till maturity (tot I read N135 in this thread) so I can knw hw much I wd be budgeting for feeding in my next farming.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 11:37am On May 12, 2015
dkings101:


Oga Robonski15 u never tell me hw much melange goes for nw. I am ready to sell them off and go back to the drawing board. Also I have post and juveniles for sale too.

Hw much can does it take to feed 1 fish till maturity (tot I read N135 in this thread) so I can knw hw much I wd be budgeting for feeding in my next farming.

Boss melange goes for 350 to 380 naira..budget 250 naira to feed one fish to maturity..
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jaz(m): 11:45am On May 12, 2015
boss, addition question for you please. what is the price of catfishes averaging 700g and what's the expected average size of 4 months old fish?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by ayoplenty: 8:54pm On May 12, 2015
Hello everyone, permit me to share my experience here.
I happened to be a first timer in the cat fish biz. I stocked the pond with 500 fingerlings, before I know what was happening I had lost about 180 fingerlings; eventually we overcome that phase, almost five months on I got my own baptism from the bulk buyers today but my wife who stood in as the sales rep refused to sell to her because the price earlier negotiated was brought down but not until the fishes had been stressed up.. .. the problem started when the buyer insisted that all the pond water be drained assuring us that all the fishes will be bought, however we were able to call her bluff because we have water readly available. The major lesson I learnt from this thread is that one should never use the buyer scale because if the price was okay we would have used the buyer 's scale and we may have still be cheated.
Thanks to all the experts in the house.... waiting to learn more

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Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by robonski15(m): 8:56pm On May 12, 2015
jaz:
boss, addition question for you please. what is the price of catfishes averaging 700g and what's the expected average size of 4 months old fish?
Right now I don't even know the exact sales of a kg. As everyone is selling at a different price based on location.. At 4 month a fish should be weighing nothing less than 0.7 grm on the average.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by jaz(m): 9:39pm On May 12, 2015
thanks man.
robonski15:

Right now I don't even know the exact sales of a kg. As everyone is selling at a different price based on location.. At 4 month a fish should be weighing nothing less than 0.7 grm on the average.
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by noblefarm: 10:51pm On May 12, 2015
Johnnyessence:
yes bro Roland I could remember a book written by john Maxwell which said that failure in life is a stepping stones to success .by failing on one side u will be Able to rise from d point u av failed and succeed .I strongly believe that things is gonna change for good for me .I could remember some words of bro excelsior who is among my coach that always said in fish farming u loose in one bit u gain av learnt my lesson no problem but it pains me much.

so sorry to hear this. sorry for the loss n I pray it won't happen again. pls don't b discouraged
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Johnnyessence(m): 12:56am On May 13, 2015
noblefarm:


so sorry to hear this. sorry for the loss n I pray it won't happen again. pls don't b discouraged
Thks bro for ur reply av learnt my lesson but pains me.how's ur farm going?
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by Ttalk: 11:46am On May 13, 2015
Johnnyessence:
I feel like crying when I remember again on d huge loss of d profit I weep deeply Cos' it pained me from d bottom of my heart .from me things will begin to change trully av learned my lesson if d baba eleja is d one that cheat me also if it is d people surrounding d place that eat it to that extent I give vageance to God who is d author and finisher of our faith to judge .I weep again when I remember about d huge loss.pls and pls I want to inform everyone rearing fish at this time should be very careful not only that prayers help but action is d best .if d baba elejas cheat me I give judgement to God and if it's my mistake d Lord will strengthen me and takeover that day when I record it I said no one can stop me from achieving my dreams in life.av tried enough to rear these fishes d Lord will crown all my effort. pls let us form Union even on nairaland here let us form Union in other for us not to be cheated again. even if it's travelling down to buy from our members is good d Lord will strengthened us bye.

I sympathise with you bro, no matter what happened it is one of the lessons of life, and we will all learn from this so as not to be a victim to such dubious ways of these fish sellers.

Having said that, i think i need to go buy sharp-sharp my own scale. Which type is good that cant be easily manipulated because i dont understand a situation where two scales will give different figure of the same fish
Re: Hidden Truths About Catfish Business!!! by seuntope8(m): 4:20pm On May 13, 2015
Hi everyone here! Wana ask a question. Does d size of a fish corresponds to its actual weight? Can you tell the weight of a fish by lookin @ their size? Sold less than 90pieces 2day nd their weight was 56kg goin by d buyers scale cos I dint ve 1 for now as this i§ my first harvest, Dou they re 4months old buh looks big 2 the sight @ 500naira/kg. I stay in kaduna

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