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Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 12:18am On May 26, 2015
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It has been said that you are leaving behind about N418bn debt and one wonders what is responsible for the huge debt profile despite the huge revenue generated by the Lagos State Government.

I have answered this question many times and it seems people just dwell on debt but in the context of debt, let us look at the assets too. I am leaving behind hundreds of kilometres of roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, courtrooms, social services, skill centres, streetlights and traffic lights. I am leaving behind also people who now have jobs, who did not have jobs seven years ago. I am leaving behind a stronger security force; a stronger LASTMA, a stronger KAI. That is where the money went. I am leaving behind a rail system. I am leaving behind so many assets for the continuity of life. I am also leaving behind a bigger workforce – a better equipped workforce.

I think we should talk less about debt and more about development.
Lagos State Government still has to continue to raise more money and this takes me to the Internally Generated Revenue that you are talking about. The IGR – standing on its own – is averagely N20 billion. Let us do the math. Some months it is more than that, some months it drops. The monthly allocation from the Federation Account is averagely N10 billion; sometimes it goes up to N11 billion, sometimes it drops to N9 billion. Let us use an average of N10 billion, even though in the last few months it dropped to six and half (N6.5 billion). If we have averagely N30 billion, do the math, divide it by 21 million people. You will get one thousand four hundred and something naira per person in Lagos. It is easy then to say let us collect the IGR you think is big but you are seeing the IGR alone and not seeing the responsibilities.

Our population has also grown by forced migration in terms of the Internally Displaced Persons across Nigeria. I just sent a team to somewhere in Apapa where there are people displaced from the North-East of Nigeria in camps. We have to go and intervene; we cannot leave them there without help. The sanitary condition there is horrendous. If we want a government that only deals with what is available, then every month is the government going to tell everybody, ‘go and take your N1,400; go and build your roads, go and build your schools, go and build your hospitals, manage your security?’

But we have to be futuristic, we have to think ahead. The IGR that you also talked about does not come as N20 billion to us. It comes when somebody pays N1 million for land today, somebody pays for his vehicle registration tomorrow, and somebody pays his ground (land) rent. It is because we are accountable that we always announce at the end of the month, ‘this is what we got.’ If we wait for 30 days for the money to accrue, it means we won’t do any work.
People should understand that we won’t do any work because the money has not accrued. What do we do? We borrow against it. The banks which we collect it from know that we will pay because the money (IGR) comes through them.

So, we take a loan. But we don’t borrow to pay salaries; we don’t borrow for recurrent expenditure, we borrow for capital investments. I cannot go and tell the person who is waiting to take his child to the hospital and there is no hospital space; that they should ‘wait, I am waiting to collect money.’ If I give you the contract to build a hospital, I cannot tell you ‘take one naira today, I am waiting for two naira tomorrow.’ It is not a way to plan construction. You must gather your building materials and you must move men to the site. We borrow from the banks. When the monies come, the banks deduct them.

[b]The borrowing you are even talking about, measure it against the assets. We took N275bn bond over eight years. The first thing we had to do was to repay the old bond of N15 billion because the Lagos State Government drew N15 billion out of the N25 billion bond. We had to repay that so that we could take the full benefit of what we were planning to do, which was going to be issued in series. And we did all these in public. What did we use these monies to finance? We used them to finance infrastructure. As the monthly IGR is coming, we are returning 15 per cent of the IGR into a consolidated debt service account. We can’t touch it. Take out 15 per cent of N20bn. We have over a N100 billion in that account to pay the debts. Those who are saying we owe, the system for paying bond is secured. We just paid the second bond, which was the first that I took. We paid it last year. The next bond will be due in 2017 and it is about N60 billion or N70 billion but we have N100 billion in the account. In any event, we have over-secured our liabilities as far as the bonds are concerned. As far as the local short-term loans from banks are concerned, we were able to pay.[/b]


If we don’t want a life of debt, then Lagosians must agree that we reduce our budget to what we earn. We have a budget of about N489 billion. Let us use our IGR as an example: N30 billion multiplied by 12 months is N360 billion. We are already in a hole of about N119bn. If Lagosians want us to reduce it, then will Lagosians agree to stop demanding more services? Certainly, no! Thus, this is the context.

And when you look at the countries we aspire to be like: America owes $16 trillion – they owe the whole world – but they have the best space ships, aircraft and army, and they can decide what our military does with the debt they owe the world.

http://www.punchng.com/politics/jonathans-acceptance-of-defeat-averted-evil-fashola/

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 12:19am On May 26, 2015
[size=14pt]So, we take a loan. But we don’t borrow to pay salaries; we don’t borrow for recurrent expenditure, we borrow for capital investments.[/size]
~Fashola

This is a Technical Knock Out for The Taniods, Satans, and the Useless Oliseh Mumu! grin grin

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Femolacaster(m): 12:22am On May 26, 2015
We don hear o!

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by REMMEI(m): 12:23am On May 26, 2015
grin

Uncle Raj though...
Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 12:23am On May 26, 2015
And when you look at the countries we aspire to be like: America owes $16 trillion – they owe the whole world – but they have the best space ships, aircraft and army, and they can decide what our military does with the debt they owe the world.

Oliseh Mumu, Can the same be said of the 60Billion Dollars Debt, you and your useless Party with Dundee President left behind?

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by kelvyn7: 12:30am On May 26, 2015
fashola CASHiola grin

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 12:30am On May 26, 2015
I am leaving behind hundreds of kilometres of roads, bridges, schools, hospitals, courtrooms, social services, skill centres, streetlights and traffic lights. I am leaving behind also people who now have jobs, who did not have jobs seven years ago. I am leaving behind a stronger security force; a stronger LASTMA, a stronger KAI. That is where the money went. I am leaving behind a rail system. I am leaving behind so many assets for the continuity of life. I am also leaving behind a bigger workforce – a better equipped workforce.

Can Someone Remind Us, What the Useless Fedora Wearing Drunkard from Otuoke is leaving Behind?

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 12:31am On May 26, 2015
lalasticlala, Ishilove, Seun and Obinoscopy, Good Night!
Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 12:36am On May 26, 2015
At the end you still dey owe

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by enoqueen: 12:39am On May 26, 2015
All of una be thief!!!!

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 12:45am On May 26, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


Mumu Go School, you no go gree! You see ya life?


The question that needs to be answered is if Fashola took out loans and is leaving Lagos indebted.

With lowering revenue from the federation account as a result of crude revenue dropping that means Lagos will have far lesser revenue because Irrespective the Bank loan must be repaid.

So the question fashola was meant to answer is not what he did with the loan but if he took out a loan in the first place.

But your alafin Gbese will not understand because borrow-borrow and long throat of another man's resources is in your genes.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by yimikaa: 12:45am On May 26, 2015
This guy is so intelligent. Fash baba

Backing it up with facts and figures,laying it bare,even a layman would understand his explanation.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 12:48am On May 26, 2015
yimikaa:
This guy I so intelligent. Fash baba

Backing it up with facts and figures,laying it bare,even a layman would understand his explanation.

That is it! Even that Taniod above you couldn't comprehend!

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NoMoreTrolling: 12:53am On May 26, 2015
yimikaa:
This guy I so intelligent. Fash baba

Backing it up with facts and figures,laying it bare,even a layman would understand his explanation.

So the man with the most debt is now viewed as intelligent? Chai!

Sycophancy is real

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NoMoreTrolling: 12:57am On May 26, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


That is it! Even that Taniod above you couldn't comprehend!

You guys are grave Behind lickers.

Like are you guys for real?

How can someone who incurred that amount of debt be so intelligent when you can't even place your finger on what it was used for?

Where is the light rail for instance? A system that was to be in operation by June 2013, that's like 2 years ago, smh undecided

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 12:59am On May 26, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


That is it! Even that Taniod above you couldn't comprehend!

You can choose to believe a lie even if you know it is a lie but that will never make the lie become the truth.

And what is that description that the truth holds again? The truth is bitter! And that is something you shameless shilling self plus your legion of daft plebs can never dispute.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by dustmalik: 1:03am On May 26, 2015
Fashola just gave the Tanoids TKO (Technical Knockout). For all the unintelligent Tanoids arguing to the contrary, where are your facts and figures?

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by anonimi: 1:04am On May 26, 2015
This should probably rank among the biggest FRAUDULENT SCAM in the nation's history sad

* Four years ago, with plenty fanfare, our gomina (governor) waka go Toronto for inspect and buy aloku scrap metal trains =>




Fashola visited Toronto earlier this year to inspect the TTC trains.

The Lagos deal would be the first of its kind for the TTC. Decommissioned cars are usually sold for scrap metal and can fetch up to $1,500 dollar each. While Ross declined to discuss specific figures, he says the sticker price for Lagos is "significantly more" than scrap prices, putting the potential profits to the TTC in the millions of dollars. shocked

It is not unusual for technology from western nations to end up in poorer countries. Marketplaces in Africa and Asia are flooded with North American clothes, computers, and even cars, but the purchase of larger technology like trains is rarer.

The cars will have to be significantly refurbished to fit existing infrastructure in Lagos, and some Nigerian media reports have lamented that the government appears to have settled on "tokundo," or used, trains instead of brand new vehicles.

Although half the cars are more than 30 years old, Ross is adamant they are perfectly safe and are only being decommissioned for capacity reasons. But he also admitted the TTC is not required to make sure the cars meet any safety standards before selling them.

"Once sold, it's up to the new operator to ensure they are in good working order," he said. "They do need to be maintained much more frequently than the new trains, simply because of their age. At some point they will run out their useful life."

Murtaza Haider, director of the Institute of Housing and Mobility at Ryerson University, said the age of the cars is definitely a cause for concern.

"We should be ensuring that there is some service life left in these vehicles and we're not going to be playing havoc with the lives of those who would ride these vehicles," Haider said. "There's metal fatigue, and that metal fatigue could result in dangerous conditions. I would be paying a close watch on this for the next ten years to see how many accidents do happen in Lagos."

More from: https://nowtoronto.com/news/next-stop-nigeria/








* In January 2013, i.e. some two years after the Toronto visit, our excellent governor said the trains will be ready by June, i.e. five months after the unsolicited statement, based on his inspection & assessment of work done so far at the time =>





Lagos light rail’ll be ready in June – Fashola
JANUARY 9, 2013

The Lagos State Governor Babatunde Fashola on Tuesday said the first phase of the state Blue Light Rail project would be completed by June this year(2013).

He expressed confidence that Lagosians would start enjoying the services of the lrail project immediately.

The first phase would run from Marina and terminated at Okokomaiko area in Ojo Local Government.

Fashola spoke during an inspection of ongoing projects in the state which took him and his cabinet members to Orile-Iganmu, Alimosho and Ejigbo areas among others to assess the level of works being done by contractors.

The governor, who inaugurated the trackwork of the blue light rail at Alaba Suru, Coker-Agunda Local Council Development Area, said the level of work on the road and those of the National Theatre and Alaba-Mile 2 rail stations, would ensure early completion

He said, “In order to finish the project, the contractor did not go on vacation during the festive period. This will ensure that the project is delivered on time for the use of Lagosians.

More from: http://www.punchng.com/news/lagos-light-railll-be-ready-in-june-fashola/










* Last year, our fine-boy-no-pimples Misita Gomina confessed he had already spent a whopping sum of N160 billion on the light rail that was supposed to be in use since June 2013. Depending on the exchange rate he used that could be $1 billion to $1.2 billion spent shocked



How We Spent N160bn World Bank Loan on Light Rail Project
11 Sep 2014
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He, therefore, explained that the state government already “has in place, strategies to repay the loan. The federal government was in the know of the state’s decision to take the bond and it approved it.”

He added that the truth “is that what they do not also say is that no state in Nigeria can borrow money outside, from any multilateral agencies without the approval of the federal government.

“What they did not say is that they approved it. No state can raise money by bond the way we have done without the federal government’s approval. Both SEC and NSE are all federal regulatory agencies through which we must pass. If they said okay, it means there must be something good about the debt.

More from: http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/lagos-how-we-spent-n160bn-world-bank-loan-on-light-rail-project/188736/



As of today, we nor see train, even sef all the billion, billion $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ don disappear enter Toronto. We prayer be sey make dem nor turn around small time sey na bad business like the N8 billion Sunborn floating hotel angry angry

In fact their candidate, Ambode now dey tell us sey na to restructure the financing and delivery will be in 18 months time. Laakulilai, we don suffer finish in the hands of these scam masters and smooth operators => embarassed


Why I reached out to Igbo voters –Ambode, Lagos APC governorship candidate
APRIL 4, 2015
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When is the light rail going to be delivered, the project seems to be going on for years?

I just said it, it’s being funded by Lagos State and the Federal Government support is not there. But I believe strongly that we will create a financial restructuring that will allow us to deliver that light rail within the next 18 months.

More from: http://www.punchng.com/feature/hotseat/why-i-reached-out-to-igbo-voters-ambode-lagos-apc-governorship-candidate/



Una wey sabi financial management small go know sey the man just dey tell us sey money don finish dem must BORROW plenty $$$$$$$$$$$ loan again to have any hope whatsoever of using the trains in 18 months lohun lohun far away longest time!

Can anyone reconcile the fact that the federal government approved LASG's World Bank loan for this project yet they spin us long tales of no federal support. He must think we are all baby pikins wey mama fit tell FAKE tory angry

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 1:04am On May 26, 2015
NoMoreTrolling:


You guys are grave Behind lickers.

Like are you guys for real?

How can someone who incurred that amount of debt be so intelligent when you can't even place your finger on what it was used for?

Where is the light rail for instance? A system that was to be in operation by June 2013, that's like 2 years ago, smh undecided



They started off here as opinion crafting shills and have since graduated to fabricating propagandists.

Don't blame them. They have little or no conscience and need to feed. It is the hate filled fools who gobble down every senseless rubbish they are paid to post that have only themselves to be blamed.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by bettercreature(m): 1:08am On May 26, 2015
BackDatAssUp:


They started off here as opinion crafting shills and have since graduated to fabricating propagandists.

Don't blame them. They have little or no conscience and need to feed. It is the hate filled fools who gobble down every senseless rubbish they are paid to post.
You are a deadly tanoid,I will bookmark your moniker sadly am on mobile phone,would've put you where you belong

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by anonimi: 1:09am On May 26, 2015
three:
These are mY top 10 'Dodgy' Contracts as listed in the Awarded Contracts Section of the Lagos State Public Procurement Website http://www.lagosppa.gov.ng

Please peruse, do your research and make informed comments.

I must commend LASG for publishing the awarded contracts online as very few if any other state government does same, however, this covers only 2 years of the BRF administration 2013/2014




www.nairaland.com/attachments/2439980_binder1page1_pngbcadc9d307231b1ae58d4947114f401c




See more tables of the SCAM and FRAUD in the quoted post/thread.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by NgeneUkwenu(f): 1:10am On May 26, 2015
NoMoreTrolling:


So the man with the most debt is now viewed as intelligent? Chai!

Sycophancy is real

Mumu TANIOD! So America with the highest Debt should be viewed as "unintelligent"? Economic illiterate!

Read below!

And when you look at the countries we aspire to be like: America owes $16 trillion – they owe the whole world – but they have the best space ships, aircraft and army, and they can decide what our military does with the debt they owe the world.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 1:10am On May 26, 2015
bettercreature:
You are a deadly tanoid,I will bookmark your moniker sadly am on mobile phone,would've put you where you belong


Just click on my handle then click follow

Silly janjawiid

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by sammyj: 1:10am On May 26, 2015
Fashola the wise one my role model carry go no shakings!!! grin

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by bettercreature(m): 1:13am On May 26, 2015
BackDatAssUp:



Just click on my handle then click follow

Silly janjawiid
I don't follow tanoids I make them abandone their moniker and create a new one

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by sunnydayasaba(m): 1:14am On May 26, 2015
Yes Fashola has cleared d air to an extent, But he still needs to tell the Taxpayers why most of the contract are inflated. I know some people will quote me and say he pays compensation to victims during constructions, but yet, Most Lagos contract are just too over inflated that even a blind man can see through it.

If you doubt me, pls take time out to search for d contracts awarded for building new blocks of classroom, it this case, compensations are mostly not paid, then you know what am talking abt.

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 1:14am On May 26, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


Mumu TANIOD! So America with the highest Debt should be viewed as "unintelligent"? Economic illiterate!

Read below!




The biggest problem confronting America is the economy which took a downturn because of uncontrollable debt.


I know APC will take out an IMF loan package which will tie us down in debt and slavery to the US dollar.


So let the shilling begin!

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by Nobody: 1:19am On May 26, 2015
bettercreature:
I don't follow tanoids I make them abandone their moniker and create a new one



You are tout and no way a troll.

Trolling is an art, science and way of life that you are not capable or mentally equipped to carry out.

If I troll you on 10% Troll mode, you probable kill yourself.

This will be the last time I have this conversation or any for that matter with you.

so if you value your autistic sanity you will do well to BackDatAssOff!

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Re: Fashola Explains Lagos Debt by igwedaboss(m): 1:40am On May 26, 2015
NgeneUkwenu:


Mumu Go School, you no go gree! You see ya life?
You can see that by default people are daftt

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