weedtaker:
he won it with fiorentina and he won it wit bayern in his debut season with 24goals and scored upto 39goals in all competitions dat season. World club cup golden boot? Hahahahaha best player is not that bad though defenders like ramos won it.. But world club cup golden boot? Na wetin you wan take console urself and ur paddy rooney? At 38years someone is finished a campaign in one of the top 5 european leagues as their top scorer.. Mehn its an incredible feat to achieve.

Rooney won the PFA player of the year. Best player is a zillion time a higher award than golden boot.

Rooney made Ballon D'or best forward.

elampiro:

We were on this twice before. It should be postponed to another day. Let's not make this unending. I have lost two days of what was suppose to be a long weekend. Bring it up again.

But remember SAF said something about the formation and I published it here recently, I think this year. He told papers what we played in the second half.

just answer the bloody question.
what formation did we play in moscow?

The two upfront are the most targeted for analysis on their roles by pundits. Many formation charts however carelessly still group 4-4-1-1 together as 4-4-2. Why? It depends on the staff in charge of drawing the formation of certain clubs. Some have Kagawa as number 10 in their list, may be too Januzaj as a winger. May be they marked Ozil as number 10, Welbeck as a striker.

says who?

So when Welbeck is taken to the wing and Ozil on the right wing and Ramsey in the hole, they miss their formation. If Januzaj is in the hole and Kagawa in the wing, they miss their formation. If Rooney is in the hole, they could mistke him as a second striker. However, second striker is still number 10.

I think I want to end this argument.

so you now agree rooney is useless?
cos if rooney is number-10, he has one of the lowest assists if you consider the sheer number of games he plays. if he's a striker; he's also useless cos his average per season is too low for the hype he gets.

so we have a rooney who isn't excellent in assists or excellent in goalscoring. so what exactly is rooney's specialty?

HARDDON:
I find it mos def difficult to bliv these wet pipes r United fans!

Having all sorts of distinctive arguments And running this thread out of control,But at the end of it all, itz nothing But a hanging wire!

WHY FIGHT AT ALL IF THERE LIES NO LOGICAL END?

apart from slitting each other's throat like some loose guns from Arsenal , talk constructively n let this thread be informative!

I, DON, hereby call this thread to order.

Well said

tess1:


That's what i said that if it's 4 4 1 1 they'll state it. They stated specifically that it's 4 4 1 1. But what you do is that you always choose the ones that aids your arguments.

What about these two from Zonal Marking?

Na wao! How many times will you guys keep repeating Liverpool matches? Why going back and forth.






The same Zonal Marking made those comments without mentioning 4 4 1 1. Zonal marking cannot know more than whoscored.

I don't know why i'll trust Zonal Marking which is a one-man's work more than whoscored that has so many feeds from a lot of experts and and is computer based.

Zonal Marking is more reliable than whoscored because Zonal Marking discusses tactics. Whoscored/OPTA also has a staff like you and I put in charge of formation for some clubs.

I have already answered the rest.

I really hope We get to settle our transfer business dis summer before we get to play the UCL qualifiers....

coogar:


just answer the bloody question.
what formation did we play in moscow?




says who?



so you now agree rooney is useless?
cos if rooney is number-10, he has one of the lowest assists if you consider the sheer number of games he plays. if he's a striker; he's also useless cos his average per season is too low for the hype he gets.

so we have a rooney who isn't excellent in assists or excellent in goalscoring. so what exactly is rooney's specialty?

1. If I got hold of that Ferguson's post, that is what I will share but without further comment. That argument should wait for another day.

2. Rooney had two thing going for him before we bought him, Goals+Assists. Then a team player. When you judge Wayne Rooney, count his goals+Assists together.

See you. I want to end this.

elampiro:


Rooney won the PFA player of the year. Best player is a zillion time a higher award than golden boot.

Rooney made Ballon D'or best forward.

luca toni won the pallone d' argento and guerin d' oro in italy.. He's also a fifa world cup winner.. He has won individual awards in 2 differents leagues and in europe also.

coogar:

so we have a rooney who isn't excellent in assists or excellent in goalscoring. so what exactly is rooney's specialty?

Hair surgery

elampiro:


1. If I got hold of that Ferguson's post, that is what I will share but without further comment. That argument should wait for another day.

2. Rooney had two thing going for him before we bought him, Goals+Assists. Then a team player. When you judge Wayne Rooney, count his goals+Assists together.

See you. I want to end this.

he comes short when you had goals/assists.
when rooney scores more than 25 league goals, his assists fall below 6.

ocephraim:


Hair surgery

and sleeping with merseyside grandmothers.

elampiro:


You dont know what you are saying, you are bringing Man United against Liverpool where SAF probably was trying to avoid Rooney playing against Gerald. Gerald knows Rooney too well and SAF is very smart.

When we played against Liverpool last season, Gerald was able to stall Rooney.

I told you that these are just a one off incidences. I will find time to bring you many charts where Rooney played in the number 10. Many of them. Just wait. Hopefully I will start tonight.

which kind of stцpid excuse is dis? "SAF was probably trying to avoid Rooney playing against Gerrard" ... niggur please find another thing to say ,dis is d height of clueless ,trying to stick an argument where dia is none

Upon all the whole hype and being the star man of his nation na only 1world cup goal him don score for 3 world cup tournaments.. Well said my man, na specialist him be for hair surgery

parrotibaba:
which kind of stцpid excuse is dis? "SAF was probably trying to avoid Rooney playing against Gerrard" ... niggur please find another thing to say ,dis is d height of clueless ,trying to stick an argument where dia is none

baba, i tell you say if you and this guy enter arguement you go end up being "CLUELESS" just like him.. And coogar you harsh o, no be even dame or matured mothers.. Grannys 4 dat matter ACHAWO rooney

parrotibaba:
which kind of stцpid excuse is dis? "SAF was probably trying to avoid Rooney playing against Gerrard" ... niggur please find another thing to say ,dis is d height of clueless ,trying to stick an argument where dia is none

can you imagine the excuse?
SAF is trying to avoid rooney playing against gerrard?

weedtaker:
baba, i tell you say if you and this guy enter arguement you go end up being "CLUELESS" just like him.. And coogar you harsh o, no be even dame or matured mothers.. Grannys 4 dat matter ACHAWO rooney

it's not a punchline, it's a real fact!

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/rooney-admits-sex-with-a-granny-6952363.html

elampiro:


Rooney has been our number 10 in the hole since he joined Man United. There were occasions he was played in the wing, number 9 and midfield. But that isnt his wing. It's just his versatility that allow him being move around easily. That's has been an Asset to him and the team. In his first season he played virtually in the wing.

In the match between United and Inter at Old Trafford, Rooney was in the hole, then we went one- nil up. At half time he was moved to the left wing as Inter began punishing us from there. He played virtually as a wingback while Evra tucked into the box. Giggs went into the hole. From there Rooney started overlapping and was able to provide an exquisite cross for CR7 goal. I watch the whole match recently.

This is his versatility that has been exploited by his managers over the years. He did not play as our number 9 that season.

I WONDER WHY ANYONE WOULD STILL ARGUE WHEN SAF SAID ROONEY WAS HIS NUMBER 10. HE EVEN MADE THIS STATEMENT IN 2011.

If elampiro tells u dat it's raining u better come out n check for ur self ...dis is d same guy dat told us here dat Rooney was a winger for most of his united career barely 4 months ago!!! n now his preaching another Bible here ,dat Rooney has been our number 10 for much of his career ...next 4 months he will still come here n say dat Rooney was our number 4 for most of his career at united ...I wonder if Rooney's boot is far up ur a$$ dat u r coughing dust, u can't even argue right ...yarning crap all over d thread

coogar:


he comes short when you had goals/assists.
when rooney scores more than 25 league goals, his assists fall below 6.

I mean in 2010/2011 he scored 11 and Assisted 11
In 2012/2013 he scored 12 and Assisted 10

He had just 2000 and 2200 minutes respectively.

parrotibaba:
which kind of stцpid excuse is dis? "SAF was probably trying to avoid Rooney playing against Gerrard" ... niggur please find another thing to say ,dis is d height of clueless ,trying to stick an argument where dia is none

Gerald knows Rooney very well and has the ability to use that against him.

weedtaker:
baba, i tell you say if you and this guy enter arguement you go end up being "CLUELESS" just like him.. And coogar you harsh o, no be even dame or matured mothers.. Grannys 4 dat matter ACHAWO rooney

You are a clueless ignoramus.

elampiro:


Gerald knows Rooney very well and has the ability to use that against him.

you are talking nonsense.....
there's nothing gerrard has against rooney. where are you even getting this nonsense from? did SAF call you personally to say he wanted to protect rooney from gerrard? so if rooney couldn't face gerrard, na berbatov go face gerrard?

elampiro:

I mean in 2010/2011 he scored 11 and Assisted 11
In 2012/2013 he scored 12 and Assisted 10
He had just 2000 and 2200 minutes respectively.

has he ever topped the assist chart?
11/12 assists is too low. nani got 18. ashley young got 18. cesc got 18 this season.

A second Striker/Support striker is also number 10. Why the argument in the first place?
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Second striker[edit]
Deep-lying forwards have a long history in the game, but the terminology to describe their playing activity has varied over the years. Originally such players were termed inside forwards, or deep-lying centre-forwards. More recently, two more variations of this old type of player have developed: the second, or shadow, or support, or auxiliary striker and, in what is in fact a distinct position unto its own, the Number 10,[4] Diego Maradona who is often described as an attacking midfielder or the playmaker.

The second striker position is a loosely defined and most often misapplied description of a player positioned somewhere between the out-and-out striker, whether he is a target-man or more of a poacher, and the Number 10 attacking midfielder, while possibly showing some of the characteristics of both. In fact, a coined term, the "nine-and-a-half", has been an attempt to become a standard in defining the position.[5] Conceivably, a Number 10 can alternate as a second-striker provided that he is also a prolific goalscorer, otherwise a mobile forward with good technical ability, who can both score and create opportunities for a less versatile centre-forward, is more suited. Second or support strikers do not tend to get as involved in the orchestration of attacks as the Number 10, nor do they bring as many other players into play, since they do not share the burden of responsibility, functioning predominantly as assist providers.[6]

elampiro:


Gerald knows Rooney very well and has the ability to use that against him.

how did u know dat Gerrard knows Rooney very well? did SAF tell u? or Rooney himself? are de in d same team or d same position to hv mastered each other? or is Rooney so afraid of an aging Gerrard dat he was pushed upfront? u self reason dis lame excuse u r currently coughing up ,d various websites have proven u wrong ,now u resort to lame a$$ excuses ...admit u r toast in dis argument

before u know it ,elampiro will tell us dat Rooney was a right back for most of his united career ...carry on mate ,I de wait ur chapter three

parrotibaba:
before u know it ,elampiro will tell us dat Rooney was a right back for most of his united career ...carry on mate ,I de wait ur chapter three

you have to feel sorry for elampiro's intelligence. SAF is hiding rooney from gerrard is the most ridiculous excuse i have ever seen to defend rooney.

"Gerrard knows rooney very well" like seriously tevez would've told kompany nd yaya toure how to outplay rooney since he knows rooney more dan gerrard cuz de wey team mates at club level, mayb fletcher also gave lescott nd yacob clue of wat to do when dey out-marked rooney in d match against west brom cuz he also knows rooney very well dan gerrard nd tevez hahahahahahaha abeg make una carry dis guy cummot 4 dis thread o, cuz na so madness d start

Abeg to more important news... I read dat we r interested in Carlos bacca

You guys can have the floor now.



You can start your (wet)dreams. Rooney to be sold. Since that makes your daily dinner complete.

Bacca is a good striker, but coogar talk say we need young striker when i bring benzema issue (benzema nd bacca i think are age mate), so baba you don watch lacazette nd felipe andersen?

parrotibaba:
If elampiro tells u dat it's raining u better come out n check for ur self ...dis is d same guy dat told us here dat Rooney was a winger for most of his united career barely 4 months ago!!! n now his preaching another Bible here ,dat Rooney has been our number 10 for much of his career ...next 4 months he will still come here n say dat Rooney was our number 4 for most of his career at united ...I wonder if Rooney's boot is far up ur a$$ dat u r coughing dust, u can't even argue right ...yarning crap all over d thread

That's what reading articles after football matches does to someone. If he finds some articles that says Rooney has been playing as numbers 4 for some seasons now he will definitely change gear.

No sensible person will rely more on a one man website (Zonal Marking) than one of the largest detailed football statistics website in Europe. But if he sees anything that will aid his argument some other day on the same whoscored, he'll hold on to it strongly.

The most surprising thing is that EPL has held two awards in the history of EPL. The first decade and the second decade award held in 2003 and 2012 respectively. To my surprise elampiro's best number 10 in premier league since he started playing is no where to be found in any. Is that not ridiculous?

As at the 2012 Rooney was already 7yrs at utd and according to elampiro he has played number 10 6yrs for Utd but he didn't make it to both the votes by a panel and the public, but Vidic that came in 2006 made it to one.

The best number 10 indeed!

Lacazette only once ,Felipe Anderson is good but just good ...










Elamps has finally conceded defeat ,d first of its kind here.

Lewy and firmimnho are my choice!

coogar:


you have to feel sorry for elampiro's intelligence. SAF is hiding rooney from gerrard is the most ridiculous excuse i have ever seen to defend rooney.

Of course Gerrard has Rooney's remote control nah.

Welbeck says hi.