Chinom:
Women are always quick to play the 'feminist card' when it suits them. When they will be positively favoured. But when the crazy terrorist or kidnapper decides to shoot me first just for being a man, the women will never step in the name of equality to be shot as well.

This is an extreme situation and I don't think anyone will think of gender equality under these circumstances. If a terrorist decides to shoot you because you are the man, then it is not a woman's fault but the terrorist's decision. And under these circumstances the terrorist will probably ra.pe the woman after you have been shot. Bottom line is that both, men and women, have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your life, the woman loses her husband, possibly the father of her kids, and also her physical integrity. Her life will never be the same again hence she has also lost her old life and may never recover again.

Men bear a lot in this world just for being a man. Women should just be happy and grateful for being a woman because the world favours them in a million ways. We, men don't get 10% of the sort of protection women get.

Yes men bear a lot. The sooner women understand it, the better our lives will become. However, men must also understand what women go through.

Now explain please what kind of protection women get in their every day lives that you get only 10% of.

I wonder who is holding these naija women from being strong or being all that they can be? If some of them have been unfortunate to marry or date cavemen in their past or presently, they automatically assume all men are like the poor choices their own myopia brought into their lives! Meanwhile are most of them ready to take the countless opportunities out there for them in order for them to disown the theory that they can't do what men also do? Hell no! You guys can join the military, get involved in the agricultural revolution currently taking place in naija, go and make a difference in our oil fields, become transporters etc! Not to sit down and only be waiting for salon work or trading in mundane products and then complaining of a lack of opportunity or sexist policies! Being single is not a crime, not being productive is, this applies to both men and women! So get up, go out and do something other than wasting your lives blaming fairies for your situations!!!!

FrancisTony:
Get off my mention, prostitute patronizer.
STDS breeding fellow.

Lmao... they're humans too...

5minsmadness:


@bolded,not true m'am.
My grandfather never heard the word feminism and yet he sent all his 7daughters to school. And he wasn't the only one. Others in the village did so as well.

Because he believed his daughters should not be denied education because of their sex, he was a feminist.

smileysmiles:


Reasons please

Modified*
Its you. I know you. You are indeed "chauvinistic" infact if i saw the moniker ontime i wouldnt have replied..

Lol... true people don't hide who they are... that aside...

Nigeria of today... which woman personality dwarfs Buhareezy...?!

None... same goes to a fellow man...

Let's me put this in simple English... most chefs are male... but if a female chefs cooks better than a make chef... why shouldn't I patronise the female chef... chauvinism aside...

5minsmadness:

How did I miss this?

And how many of these women have you talked to? Pls don't take your smoke from the headstrong teenage girls on this forum who thinks cooking is enslavement. I happen to be privileged to be exposed to a lot of couples by virtue of what I do and I assure you the average Nigerian woman has no qualms in carrying out her widely duties like cooking and cleaning the house as long as the man also carries out his duty if providing and protecting the household.

In fact I am dealing with a case right now in which a man has been cooking for himself for the past three weeks. Wifey is alarmed and upset as he has refused to iterate what the problem is. He simply said he is tired of her cooking and knew how to cook during his single days and wants to go back to it. It is an opportunity for Wifey to kick back and relax, he says. You'd think the wife would use this opportunity to watch telemundo right? Who cares, let him suffer in the kitchen right? Wrong! She is following him about and trying to learn from whatever mistakes she thinks she has made though the man insists there is nothing inherently wrong.

Men want to marry women, not warriors. If you don't want to cook for your husband then find a man who won't mind cooking for the house. He might also feel there is no need to provide for the house and make you the woman the provider and protector instead. Whatever makes you happy.

Bless you brotherly/sisterly...

winner01:
I dont argue with homosexuals >:

Hahaha... back at you FrancisTony...

FrancisTony:

Stop leaving in self denial.
There are many stories of Nigerian women suffering in the hand of their husband. Is that happiness?

Family section women don't make up 1% of Nigerian women and you can't deny it.
Actually you're the one who opined single lady are lonely and i'm telling you marriage doesn't determine happiness for all people.

You're the one who need love from female from your hateful posts towards female gender.

Sayanora!

Do you know why your posts are so confusing at times?
It's because there are so many holes in your argument, one doesn't even know which one to start from

I am very sure the many stories of women suffering at the hands of their husbands are the ones you read on nairaland. Thank God family section women don't make up 1% of the population so all those complaints u see on nairaland every other day don't count

There are many more stories of women living happily with thier husbands, ask your married nairaland feminists about thier marriages if you think it's not true. Everyday they keep confessing how awesome thier husbands are and since they make up less than 1% it is just the tip of the iceberg

Marriage is a lovely Union and can be quite joyous and filled with happiness. All you have to do is look out for the right person. Of course such happy couples won't complain. It's only the ones in trouble that come on nairaland to seek help and most of those stories are fabricated anyway for sensationalism and popularity.

Kindly point out one of my posts towards the female gender that has been hateful . That is, assuming you know the difference between disagreement and hate. You are the one who comes online day in and day out to shout how wicked and self centered men are and with the same breath vie for homosexuality/love between two men

innervoice:


This is an extreme situation and I don't think anyone will think of gender equality under these circumstances. If a terrorist decides to shoot you because you are the man, then it is not a woman's fault but the terrorist's decision. And under these circumstances the terrorist will probably ra.pe the woman after you have been shot. Bottom line is that both, men and women, have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your life, the woman loses her husband, possibly the father of her kids, and also her physical integrity. Her life will never be the same again hence she has also lost her old life and may never recover again.



Yes men bear a lot. The sooner women understand it, the better our lives will become. However, men must also understand what women go through.

Now explain please what kind of protection women get in their every day lives that you get only 10% of.

Yes, I know it is an extreme situation. I was using it to buttress the point that there are situations in which men are singled out just for BEING A MAN. That terrorist or kidnapper never asked who was more educated, richer or more beautiful. No, we are chosen based purely on our gender.

Same thing happens in most military and para-military formations. I just think that women should be happy the way things are now. There is absolutely no need for any form of feminist movement anno 2015. We are getting along just fine as it is. Most women in Islamic societies, as well as rural communities are just comfortable with their lives as it is. It's all these Western educated, city women that are trying to create an imaginary problem.

kalindaminda:


I can't believe you're actually delusional enough to say that gender discrimination is nonexistent. HILARIOUS. "Unbiased scientific studies"? So it's only unbiased if men conduct the study? Do you know how ridiculous you sound?

What are you, some kind of anti-woman crusader?

shes not an anti-woman crusader just because she has decided to examine thoroughly this evil called feminism.....these feminists are the same evil people advocating to free the female nipples, encourage abortion, easy marriage dissolution, lesbianism and all other associated evils...She will be a great woman just like the great women weve hadr in the past without necessarily being a feminist.....this article could help explain what these feminists really want.

www.nairaland.com/2318156/feminism-inherent-evils

shaybebaby:

You debase yourself when you resort to using the kind of language he understands. Best to ignore him and others who speak/ think like him. Chalk and cheese eh? And we both know he most definitely not the cheese.

more like chalk and talk... if it's one thing I understand women are the worst enemy of women... goodday to you ma'am...

Chinom:




In other words, a woman should be given the Kolanut to break just because she has a Phd. If I slaaaap you there now..!!. Are u out of your senses.

Calm down, don't let him aggravate you. He's still a kid and doesn't know the spiritual significance of breaking kola.

FrancisTony:

You should have asked him which Nigerian male president has been great or equivalent to German female Chancellor Angela Merkel.

But what has a German got to do with a Nigerian female being a worthy Nigerian president

innervoice:


This is an extreme situation and I don't think anyone will think of gender equality under these circumstances. If a terrorist decides to shoot you because you are the man, then it is not a woman's fault but the terrorist's decision. And under these circumstances the terrorist will probably ra.pe the woman after you have been shot. Bottom line is that both, men and women, have advantages and disadvantages. You lose your life, the woman loses her husband, possibly the father of her kids, and also her physical integrity. Her life will never be the same again hence she has also lost her old life and may never recover again.



Yes men bear a lot. The sooner women understand it, the better our lives will become. However, men must also understand what women go through.

Now explain please what kind of protection women get in their every day lives that you get only 10% of.

How many women have been forced to resign/sued/sacked for a sexist comments made to a guy or another woman...?

All these woman wrapper men on nairaland sef...

winner01:
I dont argue with homosexuals >:

That's discrimination and sexist sir

Cheeba:

I wonder who is holding these naija women from being strong or being all that they can be? If some of them have been unfortunate to marry or date cavemen in their past or presently, they automatically assume all men are like the poor choices their own myopia brought into their lives! Meanwhile are most of them ready to take the countless opportunities out there for them in order for them to disown the theory that they can't do what men also do? Hell no! You guys can join the military, get involved in the agricultural revolution currently taking place in naija, go and make a difference in our oil fields, become transporters etc! Not to sit down and only be waiting for salon work or trading in mundane products and then complaining of a lack of opportunity or sexist policies! Being single is not a crime, not being productive is, this applies to both men and women! So get up, go out and do something other than wasting your lives blaming fairies for your situations!!!!

Word...

5minsmadness:


Do you knw ow why your posts are so confusing at times?
It's because there are so many holes in your argument, one doesn't even know which one to start from

I am very sure the many stories of women suffering at the hands of their husbands are the ones you read on nairaland. Thank God family section women don't make up 1% of the population so all those complaints u see on nairaland every other day don't count

There are many more stories of women living happily with thier husbands, ask your married nairaland feminists about thier marriages if you think it's not true. Everyday they keep confessing how awesome thier husbands are and since they make up less than 1% it is just the tip of the iceberg

Marriage is a lovely Union and can be quite joyous and filled with happiness. All you have to do is look out for the right person. Of course such happy couples won't complain. It's only the ones in trouble that come on nairaland to seek help and most of those stories are fabricated anyway for sensationalism and popularity.

Kindly point out one of my posts towards the female gender that has been hateful . That is, assuming you know the difference between disagreement and hate. You are the one who comes online day in and day out to shout how wicked and self centered men are and with the same breath vie for homosexuality/love between two men

Preach it...

missterious:


Because he believed his daughters should not be denied education because of their sex, he was a feminist.

Spittsssss! I reject that in its entirety!

He also ensured all his girls learned how to cook while the boys went to the farm. Was he still a feminist?!

Spittttttttttss!

NickiRoman:
She inspires me,She hits the nail right on.
Women are constantly being subjected to violence, always to told to silence their voice and do things they don't want to do cause their female

We need gender equality.

forced to do Things like what ...?

5minsmadness:

Spittsssss! I reject that in its entirety!

He also ensured all his girls learned how to cook while the boys went to the farm. Was he still a feminist.

Spittttttttttss!

Do you go to the farm?

Yadoctora:


How is what I said different from scrapping the office? Your inability to read the right meaning shouldn't be my problem.


The programs first ladies run can be taken care of by ministaries. Ministaries can even ensure their continuity, something lacking with first ladies programs.

You mean,Ministries?

And madam its different o.
This is what you wrote:

Can't wrap my hands around the fact that people get into that position because they are wives to somebody and not because they have the capability to carry out such responsibility.

How does the above translate to scrapping the office?

No need for damage control. Just admit you did not think and read twice before hitting the submit button.

repogirl:
and when you are sick and need comfort, I guess your money will comfort you.

When you are lonely and your body is in need of some you know what, I guess your money will do that for you.

When you need advice or to have interesting conversations with someone, guess your money will do that for you.

When you feel the need to procreate and have cute little descendants of yours and then bring them up in the right way, I guess your money will do that for you.

When you need someone to boost your ego or morale when you're feeling unsure bout yourself, I guess your money will do that for you.

Lastly when you leave this world, who will miss you dearly, speak touching eulogies about you and keep your memory dear to their hearts. I guess your money will do that for you.

Our most important treasures in this world is our time, what we do with it and then our relationships. Everyone should aspire toward wealth and prosperity, but should not lose sight of what is really important. Because the really important things make life worth living.



Now on to the topic;

Well, I don't know Chimamanda's upbringing was but I was never brought me up to see myself as a lower being to give respect when it is needed but definitely not to be walked all over.

Nobody can put you in a place you don't want to be, sometimes as a woman, you deal with some men that have warped thinking, agreed but doesn't mean the world has put you in a corner.

Times are changing, for centuries, women have been homemakers mostly instead of career women but that was what was needed at the time. Now the economy has changed and like it or not, women have to also contribute their quota to their upkeep and family finances. I believe, like it or not, we are a constantly evolving race and with time, these things will change naturally.

All this you must not let people put you here or there is just not worth it to me, some people are malleable naturally and they will be that way whether you preach feminsm to them throughout eternity.

Women should not shenk important responsibilities because of this feminism crap. You can be an awesome career woman, awesome wife and an awesome mother all at once.

its good to know thatwe still have ladies that reason properly....my sister is a lawer, rich and married, she hates feminists

5minsmadness:

But what has a German got to do with a Nigerian female being a worthy Nigerian president

I swear... I was going to come to that...

FrancisTony...

I'll say this again... I'm proudly chauvinistic... I patronise prostitutes... and if a woman is worthy of my vote... I would vote for her...

Angela is a German woman... and she prolly worked her way to the top... Nigeria has given some women the platform to launch a serious bid to be President... Noi, Allison Madueke (if I'm correct)... but what did they use their position of power for...?

The worthy women that would get my vote are dead...

@ missterious, what wave of feminism do you belong to?

smileysmiles:


Isn't it contradictory that women shouldn't do some things because they are women,yet they want political offices in Nigeria because they are women and should be given the opportunity..

Not because they are women; because they are humans who want to serve.. and it shouldnt be an "opportunity" makes it sound like its a "favor" of some sorts to a 2nd class citizen.

If they are" given" then it is a Favour. If they want to "serve" they should compete like everybody else

shaybebaby:

You debase yourself when you resort to using the kind of language he understands. Best to ignore him and others who speak/ think like him. Chalk and cheese eh? And we both know he most definitely not the cheese.

Agreed!

missterious:


Do you go to the farm?

I stopped when I went to the University. No time. Very exhilarating work.
What has that got to do with anything?

missclasssy:


BULLSHYTE!

oh really?

craziebone:
"you don't know what you are saying, you are a small girl"

seriously, doesn't this statement emphasize the "small" rather than the girl? They were talking about the privilege of breaking the kola, for crying out loud! We as africans know what the kola symbolizes. We know it is not too far from experience and wisdom, which is typically associated with age and grey hair.

So when chimamanda and the others at the party were talking about an issue of cultural significance and that statement was made, only chimamnda understood the statement to mean a demeaning of women, just because he identified her as a girl (female)! If no be "small girl" him go call her, na "small boy". Is she a boy/ man/male? Why does she want to be identified differently?

Just last week, i was refered to as a "small boy" by a lady i am three years older than! What should i say then? That i am being judged unable to have a sound opinion on the issue because of my gender?

The fact is, that statement the man made was in no way an attack on her or an attempt to keep her quite because she is female. To the most sensible of all minds, that statement only tells us that the man dismissed her view based on the fact he thinks she isn't old enough to have a sound and insightful opinion on an issue that is just superstitious at best and lacks any real life relevance.

This is another BIG evidence that the lady Chimamanda, like every other feminist i have come across, sees gender i all things there are and can be described as obsessed with the idea, feminism. We can't always trust the words of the one who is obsessed with a thing.

There are so many things i can pick out in her speech, but i do not have all of the time in world for that. I have quantum physics to study. The fact stll remains that the world will never run short of some kind of people. It is only natural that we will always have the smart, the dumb, the rich, the poor, the strong, the weak, the delluded and a Chimamanda in all of history and civilization. So why waste my time trying to correct what will always be there. Thats more like trying to cure the earth of its gravitational power.

I must say I agree with your summation. In as much as I respect chimamanda 4 her giant strides in d field of literature, I fear that she is only promoting what she says she's fighting against. First of all,d world we live is built and thrives on inequality. This isn't a function of gender but a function of roles, resources, responsibility and order. If all men or humans are equal, then there will b no order as it will b everyman 4 himself. It has nothing 2do with gender. would chimamanda say she wouldn't fly d "don't u no am a woman" banner if I told her 2go work as a bricklayer? There are things I wouldn't encourage my sisters or wife 2do yes cos she's a woman. I wouldn't encourage my wife 2do night vigilante cos she wants 2 feel equal with men. No man is superior 2 any woman cos of his gender and vice versa. All there is 2 it is that we COMPLEMENT each other. That's d foundation Nelson Mandela laid. He didn't say cos he was a victim let's reward d blacks at d xpense of d whites. He promoted a multi racial society. Chimamandas views are skewed and she is only trying 2 promote feminism but like u said she's just one of many types

missterious:


Because he believed his daughters should not be denied education because of their sex, he was a feminist.

No he was a man not a feminist...Im sorry if ur home is otherwise but the outside world is far bigger than your home.

No matter what women will never be equal to men...if women want equality then I think they should take the matter to God rather than disturb themselves over what is meant to be and would remain till d end of age.

Until a woman comes to accept leadership and authority from men she will continue to experience internal conflicts.

Chimamanda your brillant BUT u can't change what God has ordained.

Women were never in bondage, Feminism wants to cage the minds of unsuspecting ladies, This is what feminism really stands for.... www.nairaland.com/2318156/feminism-inherent-evils