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Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 4:15pm On Feb 27, 2009
must_a_far:

where? NEWARK, ELIZABETH OR JERSEY CITY? im trying to understand your white cop black cop view.

This is not what the thread is about so I will not reply to white cop vs black cop view.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 4:18pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

This is not what the thread is about so I will not reply to white cop vs black cop view.

Well, it makes sense to research these cities which you claim have white cops that do million times more harm to blacks, don't you think? I mean we ought to research it and make sure that they do not do million times more harm to blacks in those cities anymore. I mean this is america where people can change and have changed things. Tell us where this place is so we can contact the mayor or sometthing.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by mustafar1: 4:22pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

This is not what the thread is about so I will not reply to white cop vs black cop view.

ok fair enough, but in a city where a large chunck of the population is black, immigrant, hispanic and on the flip side, the majority of those in the police force are caucasian. it seems off the Bat that the police officers are out to get everyone because they are not caucasian.

just something u need to think of.


with regards to ur support of Igbo's not joining the army. is it because they are igbo's or is it because you think the US is using/trying to use people?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 4:27pm On Feb 27, 2009
must_a_far:

ok fair enough, but in a city where a large chunck of the population is black, immigrant, hispanic and on the flip side, the majority of those in the police force are caucasian. it seems off the Bat that the police officers are out to get everyone because they are not caucasian.

just something u need to think of.


with regards to ur support of Igbo's not joining the army. is it because they are igbo's or is it because you think the US is using/trying to use people?

US is trying to use Igbos for their own self-interest


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCZk8mM1EU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzdF4hA4XfY
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 4:33pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

US is trying to use Igbos for their own self-interest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRCZk8mM1EU


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzdF4hA4XfY

And the source of your information is youtube? roflmao!!
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 4:37pm On Feb 27, 2009
An Igbo girl is against Africom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0_SPtADAPE
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by mustafar1: 4:40pm On Feb 27, 2009
so i guess if it was hausas that the US army was trying to recruit we would spread the US is trying to train these people to come hurt us even more BullMAnure. or we cry wolf and run around like a chicken without a head and say why not the igbo's or yoruba's. or cry marginalization if its yoruba speaker and hausa speakers only.

how about the FBI and CIA recruiting people into their fold. is it usage as well?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 4:42pm On Feb 27, 2009
must_a_far:

so i guess if it was hausas that the US army was trying to recruit we would spread the US is trying to train these people to come hurt us even more BullMAnure. or we cry wolf and run around like a chicken without a head and say why not the igbo's or yoruba's.

how about the FBI and CIA recruiting people into their fold. is it usage as well?

I'm Igbo.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 4:44pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

An Igbo girl is against Africom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0_SPtADAPE

So what exactly do Ibos know of Africom? I mean I could understand a Ugandan coming in to tell us about his view on Africom but an Ibo?? What does this ibo know that is fact and not more fear mongering??
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 4:45pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

I'm Igbo.

Let me guess, you think you are better than other igbos who have spent most of their lives in the US Army and enjoyed every bit of their time in service? EVen yet, you feel the ones still serving do not know more about life in service than you do?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by StFunmi(f): 4:48pm On Feb 27, 2009
as any one given it a thought that when the americans invade the south east and the niger delta for the nigerian goverment, there will be igbo speakers in the invading force, why are they not recruiting yorubas and hausas? because they are not going there, it,s were the oil is they are coming, my brothers think.
Roflmao grin grin grin
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by StFunmi(f): 4:50pm On Feb 27, 2009
so i guess if it was hausas that the US army was trying to recruit we would spread the US is trying to train these people to come hurt us even more BullMAnure. or we cry wolf and run around like a chicken without a head and say why not the igbo's or yoruba's. or cry marginalization if its yoruba speaker and hausa speakers only.

how about the FBI and CIA recruiting people into their fold. is it usage as well?

Good question. I think the Merge girl is retarded.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 4:54pm On Feb 27, 2009
Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Call me all kinds of things I don't give a SHITTTTTTTTTT.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 4:58pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Call me all kinds of things I don't give a SHIT.

Sure, we all are but we all need to understand that we cannot spread these opinions as FACTS.
It is one thing to state your opinion, but the minute you claim these opinions are fact, and then be open to answering questions to prove these facts of yours.
I live in America and I can tell you that Africans command a lot of respect. When your daily life, and view of self does not revolve around your skin color, accent, or nationality, you tend to be more open to reality as it really is. I find that once people set those to the side, the sky is the limit here in America. Humans will always be humans, but the minute we understand and accept this, we will see them allowing us be humans too.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by mustafar1: 4:59pm On Feb 27, 2009
ignore the name calling and respond to the questions. although u really dont have to respond anyway.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by JosBoy4Lif(m): 5:12pm On Feb 27, 2009
The USA is trying to strategically place themselves in Africa so they continue their exploitation of the continent.
And here we have intelligent Nigerians defending this, Well like I have said in the past individually black people are strong but as a Nation, Continent we are hopeless.
Let the Igbo man join the army for his own self interest. You cannot cause a revolution or change the way many if not all of us behave,
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 5:19pm On Feb 27, 2009
JosBoy4Lif:

The USA is trying to strategically place themselves in Africa so they continue their exploitation of the continent.
And here we have intelligent Nigerians defending this, Well like I have said in the past individually black people are strong but as a Nation, Continent we are hopeless.
Let the Igbo man join the army for his own self interest. You cannot cause a revolution or change the way many if not all of us behave,


This is my exact point.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 5:24pm On Feb 27, 2009
Every Country vested in Africa is doing exactly the same thing the US has been doing for a long time now; which is doing all it can to protect its investments, and people in the region. CHina has had need to send it's own people in to protect it's investments as well. Same with the Arab nations and European nations. What would we rather these countries do, knowing the volatile nature of life in africa, and the fact that even the AU is incapable of handling the many situations that arise almost each day in the continent? Send their people and money into Africa and turn a blind eye to the chaos that is Africa? Roflmao!!!
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by StFunmi(f): 5:28pm On Feb 27, 2009
Every Country vested in Africa is doing exactly the same thing the US has been doing for a long time now; which is doing is all it can to protect it's own investment and people in the region. What would we rather these countries do, knowing the volatile nature of life in africa? Send their people and money into Africa and turn a blind eye to the chaos that is Africa? Roflmao!!!

Nigerians will always look for an excuse for their failure in life even when the US is giving them aid, they'll still complain they are being exploited but it's difficult for them to complain their own leaders are exploiting them. Wasn't that the same thing Liberians complained when the US ousted Charles Taylor for the good of Liberia?. What did the US gain from poor Liberia?. Black man has real issues.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Nobody: 5:45pm On Feb 27, 2009
JosBoy4Lif:

The USA is trying to strategically place themselves in Africa so they continue their exploitation of the continent.

well what would call what our politicians are doing to us NOW
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by JosBoy4Lif(m): 5:48pm On Feb 27, 2009
Our government also plays a hand in the exploitation of resources, but that is a discussion for another thread No? Or is it the same subject.

kaecy5:

well what would call what our politicians are doing to us NOW

Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by blackspade(m): 5:53pm On Feb 27, 2009
Haha, it's pointless trying to talk some sense into a fool.

I wonder how many people in this thread who're actually advocating this bs is going to join the U.S. army?

Actions speak much louder than words. Will the cowards expose themselves, or will they continue spewing hot air?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 5:55pm On Feb 27, 2009
JosBoy4Lif:

Our government also plays a hand in the exploitation of resources, but that is a discussion for another thread No? Or is it the same subject.

I have to say it is the same subject. We can sit here and demonize the outsiders for coming in to our shores and get nowhere with the hatemongering because on the other side we have our own politicians continually creating reasons for the outsiders to come in to take care of their business. Look at the situation in Nigeria with the riots every other month, it seems. For instance, would China, Russia, even Denmark have need to send their navy to Somalia if the Somalian government was doing its job? The answer is NO. The same thing goes for the rest of Africa. The British coming to the Aid of its people in Zimbabwe; the list goes on. Do you think that if, say French citizens were caght up somewhere in there, that the french government would not try to come in to at least rescus its own people and its investments?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by blackspade(m): 5:58pm On Feb 27, 2009
Honestly, some of the responses in this thread make me feel ashamed to be part Igbo.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 5:59pm On Feb 27, 2009
blackspade:

Honestly, some of the responses in this thread make me feel ashamed to be part Igbo.

Why?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by StFunmi(f): 6:11pm On Feb 27, 2009
Honestly, some of the responses in this thread make me feel ashamed to be part Igbo.
You are ashamed because the US said they want igbos in the marines? Should the Chinese, Indians, Europeans etc that were invited in the bunch feel ashamed too for their roots?. I think you have a personal issue with your igbo blood if you are truly one.

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Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by blackspade(m): 6:12pm On Feb 27, 2009
Kobojunkie:

I have to say it is the same subject. We can sit here and demonize the outsiders for coming in to our shores and get nowhere with the hatemongering because on the other side we have our own politicians continually creating reasons for the outsiders to come in to take care of their business. For instance, would China, Russia, even Denmark have need to send their navy to Somalia if the Somalian government was doing its job? The answer is NO. The same thing goes for the rest of Africa. The British coming to the Aid of its people in Zimbabwe; the list goes on.
The irony of it all is that Westerners are more often than not the ones who put those politicians in charge.

Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since 1991, so you fail at making a point.

The Somali people at one point resolved their issues by electing a moderate Islamacist party into power, but the U.S. didn't like that, so they trained Ethiopian troops, and sent them into Somalia to destabilize the new government.

Look at the situation now. About the piracy, do you think it started out of nowhere? There is no government in Somalia, which means no Navy, which means Somalia waters are constantly vulnerable.

These so-called "pirates" actually started out as a sort of vigilante Navy, protecting their waters from toxic wastes that were illegally dumped into their waters by ships traces back to Europe.

Going by record, the U.S. has done much more harm to Africa than good.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by blackspade(m): 6:23pm On Feb 27, 2009
merge:

Why?
Why? I feel that it's ridiculous some people in here are willing to side with foreign powers because of something that they refuse to let go.

The plight of Igbos in Nigeria is something no one can ignore, BUT people forget that Nigeria is still a very young nation (not even 50 years old).

It's strange people don't realize that many great nations across the world have been through these same type of struggles throughout their histories, but as time went on, things got better.

The defeatist attitude that some Igbos hold is extremely counter-productive not only to Nigeria, but also to Igbos as a whole.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by merge(f): 6:28pm On Feb 27, 2009
blackspade:

Why? I feel that it's ridiculous some people in here are willing to side with foreign powers because of something that they refuse to let go.

The plight of Igbos in Nigeria is something no one can ignore, BUT people forget that Nigeria is still a very young nation (not even 50 years old).

It's strange people don't realize that many great nations across the world have been through these same type of struggles throughout their histories, but as time went on, things got better.

The defeatist attitude that some Igbos hold is extremely counter-productive not only to Nigeria, but also to Igbos as a whole.


Yeah I tired of this nonsense.
America has proved time after time that they have no interest in helping Africa.

You are the VERY FEW with sense. I thank God for that.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by StFunmi(f): 6:28pm On Feb 27, 2009
Why? I feel that it's ridiculous some people in here are willing to side with foreign powers because of something that they refuse to let go.

The plight of Igbos in Nigeria is something no one can ignore, BUT people forget that Nigeria is still a very young nation (not even 50 years old).


It's strange people don't realize that many great nations across the world have been through these same type of struggles throughout their histories, but as time went on, things got better.

The defeatist attitude that some Igbos hold is extremely counter-productive not only to Nigeria, but also to Igbos as a whole.
50 years old means nothing please. We really do not have any excuse for our problems besides greed. How come we are backwards in every good thing on earth but stands in good measure when it comes to corruption and any other thing that is infamous?
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Kobojunkie: 6:52pm On Feb 27, 2009
blackspade:

The irony of it all is that Westerners are more often than not the ones who put those politicians in charge.
Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since 1991, so you fail at making a point.
The Somali people at one point resolved their issues by electing a moderate Islamacist party into power, but the U.S. didn't like that, so they trained Ethiopian troops, and sent them into Somalia to destabilize the new government.
Look at the situation now. About the piracy, do you think it started out of nowhere? There is no government in Somalia, which means no Navy, which means Somalia waters are constantly vulnerable.
These so-called "pirates" actually started out as a sort of vigilante Navy, protecting their waters from toxic wastes that were illegally dumped into their waters by ships traces back to Europe.
Going by record, the U.S. has done much more harm to Africa than good.
Please tell me you are joking with the response above, please do!! Any who, there is no need getting into all this rambling of conspiracies and what not. Turning this thread into yet another AMERICA is to blame FOR AFRICA’s miseries has yet to help so far, so please stick to the issue at hand and not more of the above.
Re: Igbos Don't Join The United States Army and Resist Africom by Nobody: 7:06pm On Feb 27, 2009
blackspade:

The irony of it all is that Westerners are more often than not the ones who put those politicians in charge.

Somalia hasn't had a functioning government since 1991, so you fail at making a point.

The Somali people at one point resolved their issues by electing a moderate Islamacist party into power, but the U.S. didn't like that, so they trained Ethiopian troops, and sent them into Somalia to destabilize the new government.

Look at the situation now. About the piracy, do you think it started out of nowhere? There is no government in Somalia, which means no Navy, which means Somalia waters are constantly vulnerable.

These so-called "pirates" actually started out as a sort of vigilante Navy, protecting their waters from toxic wastes that were illegally dumped into their waters by ships traces back to Europe.

Going by record, the U.S. has done much more harm to Africa than good.

That's a conspiracy theory dude. The Somalians and Ethiopian issue went way back since when the Somalis helped the Europeans commit genocide on Ethiopians killing more than 500k Ethiopians. Eritreans were in the evil too that's the major reason they had to break away from Ethiopia. Saying the US put the Ethiopians troops to distort the Somalis' government is a lie. There beef went way back to when all the Ethiopians had to fight was bow and arrow while the Europeans brought automatics to aid the Somalis. It wasn't even cause of a dispute between the two, it was just that Mussolini felt like killing some Africans.

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