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patches689:


Take that African pride rubbish and tell it to the Chibok girls.

Those capabilities are not those of your ATR42, not only that but your "source" discusses the capabilities of multiple different radar sets. ATR42 is a simple MPA platform, not ISTAR, not ELINT and most certainly not AWAC

And your ATR42 is the same as the Italian version
http://www.defense-aerospace.com/article-view/release/83981/nigeria-orders-two-atr42s-for-maritime-patrol.html

with a search range of 330km
http://www.casr.ca/id-fwsar-italy-2.htm

Whilst its roles are: Maritime Patrol (surveilance) and pollution detection. With ISAR mentioned only vaguely as is the detection of radar emissions (most fighter jets can also do this) - no mention of ISTAR, no mention of ELINT, no mention of AWAC
http://www.atraircraft.com/datas/download_center/38/atr_42_surveyor_2004_38.pdf

This is the last I shall comment on this topic.

Good day

PS: To remain on topic I have attached images of the best frigate in Africa (unless the Egyptians got the land attack missiles with their FREMM)

# Butt Hurt By NAF ATR-42 MPA+ISTAR+AWAC+ Gabbiano T200 having 407 KM RADAR

http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/17664494/body_mm07820_Gabbiano_LQ_.pdf

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agaugust:


Bwahahahahahahaahha Gripen jet

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jln115:

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Bwahahahahahahaahha Gripen jet

DictatorZAR:


You really should stop thinking like a village id@iot.

Most credible manufacturers build at least 3 prototypes for testing evaluation and development stages. It seems we have different standards.

are you too du.mb to understand that it's still in DESIGN stage?

jln115:

ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Heheheheheh....Hawhawhawhawhaw Gripen jet crumbles trying a simple combat maneuver


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkgShfxTzmo

EVarn:
The demon speaks!!
Hold thy peace,Oh demons of evil,abaddon and adramelech!,azazel and kokabiel!,baphomet and zagan!,O thou agraab bat mahlat,demon of the darkest order!.
Be thou casted into the pit of darkness from whence thou cometh!,by the power of Christ!.

GO Evarn. I am so feeling you right now ....please CONTINUE the "Catholic rite of exorcism ** it is so casting out the DeMons in @DICTATORZOO.... Fire am wella.... so his brain can receive at least common sense of an Animal .... its still remaining 14demons..

agaugust:


Heheheheheh....Hawhawhawhawhaw Gripen jet crumbles trying a simple combat maneuver


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkgShfxTzmo

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah JF-17 and F-7 jet hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
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agaugust:


Mmmmmm !!!

Jet fighters won't win air battles just because they are expensive and made in USA or EU !

Air force pilots have always warned about visual range combat where everybody dies at the same rate. F-7 will k.ill Gripen and vice versa.

Food for thought.

I will be willing to pay $35 million for a JF-17 Thunder block III and still win my air wars
.

The F35 wasnt made for dogfight,its a stealth aircraft: strictly stealth and speed.
Its no wonder it was beaten by the F16 which is more suited for dogfighting and complex air maneovers.But when it comes to "under the radar" {infilteration} and stealth operations,the F35 is the undisputable champion.

DictatorZAR:


Listen here f@cktard masepoes I can tolerate most shiiit here but when you start with your false prophetic bullshiiit and play with the Lords name I don't take it kindly.

Now go and command your demonic spirits to go f@uck your mother you piece of shiiit.

Jou mase poes jy naaier.

lemme add those of our Traditional Deity and Shrine....,
OGUN !!! ooo,
OYA !!!! ooooo,
ERIWOYA !!!! oooo,
AMADIOHA !!! oooo,,,
AYELALA !!! oooo,
cast out the Demons possessing this boy...

ddami:
GO Evarn. I am so feeling you right now ....please CONTINUE the "Catholic rite of exorcism ** it is so casting out the DeMons in @DICTATORZOO.... Fire am wella.... so his brain can receive at least common sense of an Animal .... its still remaining 14demons..

lol,you want to put me in trouble...
hehehehe...you want me to be visited by a nightly parade of angry demons?,I reject it in jesus name!.

EVarn:
lol,you want to put me in trouble...
hehehehe...you want me to be visited by a nightly parade of angry demons?,I reject it in jesus name!.

. I guess the Demons are so stubborn, they don't want to come out.... Nothing can happen... The dude too is already scared...

jln115:



hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah JF-17

One single JF-17 crash ? That's all you have to show ? We have a long crash list of SEVEN Gripen jets Bwahahahhahahhaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xraDd8ejjFI
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ddami:
. I guess the Demons are so stubborn, they don't want to come out.... Nothing can happen... The dude too is already scared...

lol.True,very true.

agaugust:


One single JF-17 crash ? That's all you have to show ? We have a long crash list of SEVEN Gripen jets Bwahahahhahahhaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR176m_hId0
.

Dude you're just a troll, your precious Sukhoi 27/30 have crashed much more than The Gripen A,B,C and D so im guessing the JF-17 is better than the Su30 as well?

MduZA:


Nigerian mentality of believing that its only them entitled for great things...when they realized that their counterparts in other countries are doing much better,they show their frustration by throwing insults everywhere..in this instance,nairaland forum is a good example

Wrong! You just gave a classic example of south Africans. After all, you guys are the rookies on the block with a 0 knowledge of how Africa works. Zulus are in no way comparable to Nigerians in any department. You haven't proved anything in 21 years

MduZA:


friendly advice:if you have got a tendency of using ethnicity to convey your message,dont play that game with me...am neither igbo nor Yoruba...the entire comment of yours clearly shows that you live in the imaginary world therefore its unnecessary to counter your wishful fantasies

so nice to see a Zulu lamenting on tribal/ethnic slur . What happened to flat Igbo head, isn't it fashionable anymore? I just gave you hard facts mixed with ethnic flavour and you go all girly on me like a fággy fàggót

Resolved: white females have more millionaires than Zulus in South Africa;

Zulus are 90 % of the population yet amount to less than 16% of total millionaires in S.A

Zulus can't only boast of one billlionaire on earth

Feel free to submit a contrary view, Zulu.

lezz:
so nice to see a Zulu lamenting on tribal/ethnic slur . What happened to flat Igbo head, isn't it fashionable anymore? I just gave you hard facts mixed with ethnic flavour and you go all girly on me like a fággy fàggót

Resolved: white females have more billionaires than Zulus in South Africa;

Zulus are 90 % of the population yet amount to less than 16% of total millionaires in S.A

Zulus can't only boast of one billionaire on earth

Feel free to submit a contrary view, Zulu.

Zulus are only 20% of the population in SA!

jln115:

Zulus are only 20% of the populatAfricansA!

you want me to say Xhosa, Bantu, Tswana etc? That's unnecessarily tedious. Or you would rather I say black south Africans? It isn't sweet nor taste good in the tongue.

But Zulu.... I love the primitive bounce of that word whenever I say it . It's a perfect word that depicts the savagery and uncouthness of the average Zulu.

I have elected it as the collective term for the entire black south africans. ( I have explained this to you some time before) after all, they are the most populated black ethnic group in S.A
It's a befitting tittle.

lezz:
you want me to say Xhosa, Bantu, Tswana etc? That's unnecessarily tedious. Or you would rather I say black south Africans? It isn't sweet nor taste good in the tongue.

But Zulu.... I love the primitive bounce of that word whenever I say it . It's a perfect word that depicts the savagery and uncouthness of the average Zulu.

I have elected it as the collective term for the entire black south africans. ( I have explained this to you some time before) after they are the most populations black ethnic group in S.A
It's a befitting tittle.

You dont see me using the phrase "Dom Poese" to describe Nigerians do you? even though the majority of your country are "Dom Poese"... You included.

jln115:

You dont see me using the phrase "Dom Poese" to describe Nigerians do you? even though the majority of your country are "Dom Poese"... You included.

I wouldn't care whatever term you use. I've long suspected you're pseudo-zulu by blood, affiliation and brain power.

lezz:
I wouldn't care whatever term you use. I've long suspected you're pseudo-zulu by blood, affiliation and brain power.

Well fvck you must be right then!! After all you are a Nigerian and know every thing about South Africa.

patches689:


1. No, your products are inferior to what is being offered
2. Holy sh1t, you think you can just bang out a quality IFV over night? Look at the Patria - 8 years from concept to test vehical (for a company with a long history of IFV development) and then another 7 years of development for the South African variant.

Nigeria has a looong way to go before you can truly claim any quality local designs.

First step is getting a manufacturing deal for something from one of the big boys

Then you use the skills and knowledge from that to develop your own indigenous stuff

So, why don't we put to test your comment. Here are the vehicles offered in the class of the Nigerian LAPV.

The Streit Cougar, Otokar Akrep and Plasan sandcat. Excerpt you are blind, it is clear only the Plasan is better in this category.

patches689:


1. No, your products are inferior to what is being offered
2. Holy sh1t, you think you can just bang out a quality IFV over night? Look at the Patria - 8 years from concept to test vehical (for a company with a long history of IFV development) and then another 7 years of development for the South African variant.

Nigeria has a looong way to go before you can truly claim any quality local designs.

First step is getting a manufacturing deal for something from one of the big boys

Then you use the skills and knowledge from that to develop your own indigenous stuff

To the rest of your rant, yes, Nigeria can bang out a quality IFV over night.

If the resources are available, with a credible partner, nothing is insurmountable. ATOM IFV was manufactured under a year.

A Nigerian company with adequate government backing, can deliver production model IFVs in 3-5 years, concept-production.

jln115:

Well that's what it sounds like, All you Nigerians use the excuse that its because of White people that South Africa is ahead of Nigeria (in what ever that may be) thus implying that Whites are better than you !

nope, what we mean is that for the anglo-dutch Zulu and co will be just one step lesser than Burundi. And who says the anglo dutch made south Africa better; they were frightened thieves too desperate to develop even themselves.

agaugust:


Mmmmmm !!!

Jet fighters won't win air battles just because they are expensive and made in USA or EU !

Air force pilots have always warned about visual range combat where everybody dies at the same rate. F-7 will k.ill Gripen and vice versa.

Food for thought.

I will be willing to pay $35 million for a JF-17 Thunder block III and still win my air wars
.

I'm fine with a Plane like this.

jln115:

Well fvck you must be right then!! After all you are a Nigerian and know every thing about South Africa.

you bet I am

lezz:
nope, what we mean is that for the anglo-dutch Zulu and co will be just one step lesser than Burundi. And who says the anglo dutch made south Africa better; they were frightened thieves too desperate to develop even themselves.

You do know we are more developed then you right? So how was it that not the Dutch or The Bantu people made South Africa better? Was it the Khoi San that propelled South Africas development?

lezz:
you bet I am

Always

jln115:

You do know we are more developed then you right? So how was it that not the Dutch or The Bantu people made South Africa better? Was it the Khoi San that propelled South Africas development?

most definitely not. Using guns and military to keep a people down and plundering their resources for money with the help of your racist friends in Europe and America , and building cities to accommodate so few while the rest toil in grand slums is definitely what you mean by development.

agaugust:


You failed to win as well. Asphalt tarred roads and cement buildings does not put SA country 80 years ahead of NIG.

We too have all those things in every state/province, so what ?

Even Botswana and Namibia are reputed to be as beautiful as South Africa, or you think only you has tarred roads in Africa? Fool

botswana nd Namibia as beautiful as South Africa ? Bwahahahah ...even they no hus boss ,they jus like u run to S.A for a beta life , ask them. We are Europe extension .we run u ppl

Heaven on the tip of hell