lezz:
so nice to see a Zulu lamenting on tribal/ethnic slur . What happened to flat Igbo head, isn't it fashionable anymore? I just gave you hard facts mixed with ethnic flavour and you go all girly on me like a fággy fàggót

Resolved: white females have more millionaires than Zulus in South Africa;

Zulus are 90 % of the population yet amount to less than 16% of total millionaires in S.A

Zulus can't only boast of one billlionaire on earth

Feel free to submit a contrary view, Zulu.

jln115:

Well that's what it sounds like, All you Nigerians use the excuse that its because of White people that South Africa is ahead of Nigeria (in what ever that may be) thus implying that Whites are better than you !

agaugust:


# Butt Hurt By NAF ATR-42 MPA+ISTAR+AWAC+ Gabbiano T200 having 407 KM RADAR

http://www.selex-es.com/documents/737448/17664494/body_mm07820_Gabbiano_LQ_.pdf

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agaugust:


One single JF-17 crash ? That's all you have to show ? We have a long crash list of SEVEN Gripen jets Bwahahahhahahhaha


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xraDd8ejjFI
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agaugust:


Mmmmmm !!!

Jet fighters won't win air battles just because they are expensive and made in USA or EU !

Air force pilots have always warned about visual range combat where everybody dies at the same rate. F-7 will k.ill Gripen and vice versa.

Food for thought.

I will be willing to pay $35 million for a JF-17 Thunder block III and still win my air wars
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agaugust:


Nice video there, really great.

The JF-17 will eventually take the major market away from all these over-priced American-European jets.

That looks like JF-17 Thunder block I video. http://playit.pk/watch?v=ZthdDd1Qj6A

Block III will be a block buster by 2017-2018 when it arrives with it's new design, new angine, new avionics and 4+ generation stuff !

jln115:

Zulus are only 20% of the population in SA!

patches689:


The attachments you have posted are not correct and you know it

Thiza:
SHOW ME WHAT NIGERIA PRODUCES AS AN INDIGENOUS HARDWARE

Thiza:
COMPARE SOUTH AFRICA WITH NIGERIA NOT PAKISTAN OR CHINA

patches689:


7 crashes out of over 260 planes operating for 25 years

1 JF crash out of less than 50 operational for how long?

Thiza:
BEST AGAINST NIGERIA

SirLsgZA:
SA is just better......

overhypedsteve:
when he typed zulu he meant every single south African with a black head. Khoisans, bantu and all the host of primitive spear totting,lazy government fund seeking minions

lezz:
most definitely not. Using guns and military to keep a people down and plundering their resources for money with the help of your racist friends in Europe and America , and building cities to accommodate so few while the rest toil in grand slums is definitely what you mean by development.

agaugust:


Most Gripens don't ever fly, Sweden has about 50 in storage, South Africa has 12 in storage. Others Gripens sit on the ground dormant.

The Gripens that dare to fly are the ones crashing like house fly sprayed with Baygon insecticide

$ 68 million aircraft crashing twice in 21 days this current dates June and May 2015

$ 15 million aircraft crashing once in 13 years and last time was 2011

You know Gripen jets need insurance cover from AIICO....please call the insurance broker now before it is too late
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jln115:

NO!!! what i mean is we are classified as developed by the CIA, and NIC by the IMF, not only that, we are ranked 34 in infrastructure in the world.

lezz:
developed? LMSAO. South Africa is a devil hoping country in every single definition. An advanced stock market doesn't make you a devoloped country. Are you an idiota?

When China, India, Russia etc aren't yet fully first world country, you're talking about a backwater south Africa.

Your problem is -and it's a national one - is a false sense of value, believing your own hype when the world is far above you.

patches689:


"muh anecdotal evidence"

agaugust:


Your army is the best in the world, yet when they see skinny Sudan boys on Ramadan patrol, SANDF pee pee in their paants
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agaugust:


You are showing European Gripen and Boeing aircraft in your comment, are those made in South Africa ?

Comparing hardware, we have answered your question over 100 times on this forum, only a retaaaaard keeps asking same dumbaszz question like a student who cannot read clear answers.

From OBJ-006 rifle to bomb disposal robots, to Gulma drone, to Ichoku glider UAV to NNS Andoni, to armoured speed boats to Ikri LAV, to Igirigi to Proforce Leopard, to spy balloons to new naval midshore patrol vessel bigger than NNS Andoni, to ...... United Nations buying our LAV.

Go to sleep dude.

agaugust:


You are showing European Gripen and Boeing aircraft in your comment, are those made in South Africa ?

Comparing hardware, we have answered your question over 100 times on this forum, only a retaaaaard keeps asking same dumbaszz question like a student who cannot read clear answers.

From OBJ-006 rifle to bomb disposal robots, to Gulma drone, to Ichoku glider UAV to NNS Andoni, to armoured speed boats to Ikri LAV, to Igirigi to Proforce Leopard, to spy balloons to new naval midshore patrol vessel bigger than NNS Andoni, to ...... United Nations buying our LAV.

Go to sleep dude.

agaugust:


[s]Most Gripens don't ever fly, Sweden has about 50 in storage, South Africa has 12 in storage. Others Gripens sit on the ground dormant.

The Gripens that dare to fly are the ones crashing like house fly sprayed with Baygon insecticide

$ 68 million aircraft crashing twice in 21 days this current dates June and May 2015

$ 15 million aircraft crashing once in 13 years and last time was 2011

You know Gripen jets need insurance cover from AIICO....please call the insurance broker now before it is too late[/s]
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agaugust:


Your army is the best in the world, yet when they see skinny Sudan boys on Ramadan patrol, SANDF pee pee in their paants
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Henry120:


You are a dullard!


The makers of one of the most expensive weapons programs in history went on the defensive today, saying a recent report on the F-35 fighter jet’s failures in old-school dogfighting against a decades-old, much cheaper legacy fighter “does not tell the whole story.”

The report in question, posted on the national security news website War Is Boring, was based on an internal five-page brief in which an F-35 test pilot wrote a scathing criticism of the next-generation jet’s abilities in a January dogfight with an F-16, one of the planes the F-35 is designed to replace. Essentially, the pilot reportedly wrote, the F-35 was no match for the F-16 in close-up, high maneuvering fighting — whether the F-35 was trying to get the F-16 in its sights or trying to evade the F-16’s mock weapons.

“The F-35 was at a distinct energy disadvantage,” the test pilot reportedly wrote. “There were not compelling reasons to fight in this region.”

This morning the Pentagon’s F-35 Program Office did what the actual $138 million jet apparently couldn’t: fight back.

In an email to reporters, Joe DellaVedova, a spokesperson for the F-35 office, attempted to provide context in defense of the fighter jets. First, DellaVedova wrote, the F-35 in the demonstration was only designed for “flight sciences” and was “not equipped with a number of items” that the jets currently coming off the production line have. For instance, it didn’t have the sensors that “allow the F-35 to see its enemy long before it knows the F-35 is in the area.”

He said that the Lockheed Martin-made F-35 didn’t have the stealth coating that regular F-35s have, making them “virtually invisible to radar,” and the test jet wasn’t equipped with “the weapons or software that allow the F-35 to turn, aim a weapon with the helmet, and fire at an enemy without having to point the airplane at its target.” (According to War Is Boring, the test pilot complained the size of the helmet made it too hard to see behind the plane.)

But none of DellaVedova’s comments directly address the central claim in the War Is Boring report -– that the plane isn’t good at maneuvering in close-up dogfighting –- likely because DellaVedova said it isn’t really designed to be.

“The F-35’s technology is designed to engage, shoot and kill its enemy from long distances, not necessarily in visual ‘dogfighting’ situations,” he said.

The F-35 is also primarily designed to attack targets on the ground. It’s the duty of the F-35’s next-generation counterpart, the F-22 Raptor – which had its own share of dogfighting difficulties – to take on other fighter jets in the air.

Still, DellaVedova said in a follow-up email to ABC News that the test pilot’s report is “the beginning of what engineers and software designers may need to address in the future.”

“As the F-35 is still in the midst of the System Development and Demonstration (SDD) phase, much work is on-going to improve the capabilities and deliver them to the warfighter,” DellaVedova said. “The F-35 of today is not what the F-35 will be in the coming years.”

The F-35 is one of the most expensive weapons programs in history, with each jet costing around $138 million and the entire program running up to $339 billion – well over an estimated $1 trillion in operational costs over the next 50 years. It’s also woefully behind schedule; the first planes were supposed to have gone operational three years ago.

Despite DellaVedova’s comment about intense testing still being done, the Marine Corps, one of the F-35’s customers, expects to field its first aircraft this summer.

http://news.yahoo.com/military-don-t-worry-f-35-most-expensive-213045869–abc-news-topstories.html





Patches689, the spokesman is a dullard, just like you. We are talking about the F-35A, the most manoeuvrable F-35 inability to beat an F-16C with 2 drop tanks in a Dog fight, and he's referring to BVR capability.