jimmy4x:

Why dem kon dey call for Hazard head say hin no dey score for Belgium when Oga boss like Messi sef dey find am hard to replicate Club form for country.

"Lord" Leo never does wrong in the eyes of barca fans.Always giving excuses for their god.'He drops deep', 'he is their playmaker', 'he is a CMF', but I have seen him dropping deep while playing for Barcelona and still delivering goals.Such hypocrites.

Mcleo007:



Play your Penaldo in same role as god-Messi, and you'd see a completely useless player. Even a Rodrigo Palacio would do better as a playmaker.

You have been blinded by hate and nothing can change that.

marqueetim:
like what please? any memorable run? slalom? pass/assist? or which blind eye again?

Try watching other teams apart from Barcelona play.

bykebyke:

What else has cr7 got to offer if not goals?

You are asking me what Real madrid's all time assist leader in la liga offers apart from goals.SMH.

dmcdad:
You know it's Messi when this happens...

Haha! The same thing also happened when he scored against Bosnia.

Krasid:
He is in his peak now.He will decline in the next few years.

[size=99]O.K [/size]

Krasid:
You have been blinded by hate and nothing can change that.

You know I speak the truth, so I understand your pain.

Krasid:
"Lord" Leo never does wrong in the eyes of barca fans.Always giving excuses for their god.'He drops deep', 'he is their playmaker', 'he is a CMF', but I have seen him dropping deep while playing for Barcelona and still delivering goals.Such hypocrites.

In the Olympus of football, god-Messi is Kronos. He's the father of the gods.

Krasid:
"Lord" Leo never does wrong in the eyes of barca fans.Always giving excuses for their god.'He drops deep', 'he is their playmaker', 'he is a CMF', but I have seen him dropping deep while playing for Barcelona and still delivering goals.Such hypocrites.

U no see as I ignore them, Messi that dropped deeper for Suarez nd Neymar ds season and still scored over 50 goals....is he not different from Argentina Messi who has scored just a single goal since Copa started.
When I saw 6-1 in their last match, I was like, at last Messi don score Hattrick or at worst 2 goals..
I was surprised when I realised he had no goal.
That's just not the Barca Messi I know, no pun intended.

Mcleo007:



What do you mean by that sir? Chelsea fan alert!

Were you not watching this Copa America? What more form of replication do you expect of god-Messi? They play him alone in a 5 aside against other teams?

coded01:



Smh...

Ok, I don't get it, are you guys saying Messi doesn't play way better in Barca than he does in the National team, cause I'm a bit lost, abi una just jump reply me?

jimmy4x:

U no see as I ignore them, Messi that dropped deeper for Suarez nd Neymar ds season and still scored over 50 goals....is he not different from Argentina Messi who has scored just a single goal since Copa started.
When I saw 6-1 in their last match, I was like, at last Messi don score Hattrick or at worst 2 goals..
I was surprised when I realised he had no goal.
That's just not the Barca Messi I know, no pun intended.

The problem with you Madrid fans regarding Messi is that if his teams loses you will be happy. If his teams wins then u proceed by saying at least he consecutively.

If he scores but didn't win then u wld say he didn't win. You don't get satisfied with him. Regardless of hw many goals he has bagged, he won MOTM consecutively.

If you like kill ya self, he is in the final of copa and by His grace he will add that to his trophy cabinet.

Sure I know you and your cohorts are wishing he loses tho.

ollah1:


The problem with you Madrid fans regarding Messi is that if his teams loses you will be happy. If his teams wins then u proceed by saying at least he consecutively.

If he scores but didn't win then u wld say he didn't win. You don't get satisfied with him. Regardless of hw many goals he has bagged, he won MOTM consecutively.

If you like kill ya self, he is in the final of copa and by His grace he will add that to his trophy cabinet.

Sure I know you and your cohorts are wishing he loses tho.

Na make una just dey type rubbish dey taya me pass, must I be a Madrid fan to compare Messi's kinda play in club and country? ask Krasid, I love Messi 100000 times better than Ronaldo, he's the best in the world, do u know ow I exhort him to the high heavens when he performs well for Barca, that doesn't mean I shouldn't air my view, I asked you people a question, u keep typing BS, even Messi himself knows he's not scoring like he should, Wetin kon be una own wahala.
How will Argentina score 6 goals and Messi won't score just 1, if you didn't watch the match nd u were told the scoreline, wouldn't you be shocked Messi didn't score??
he has dropped deeper to accommodate Neymar nd Suarez, which is commendable but even at that, he still managed over 54 goals...

jimmy4x:

Na make una just dey type rubbish dey taya me pass, must I be a Madrid fan to compare Messi's kinda play in club and country? ask Krasid, I love Messi 100000 times better than Ronaldo, he's the best in the world, do u know ow I exhort him to the high heavens when he performs well for Barca, that doesn't mean I shouldn't air my view, I asked you people a question, u keep typing BS, even Messi himself knows he's not scoring like he should, Wetin kon be una own wahala.
How will Argentina score 6 goals and Messi won't score just 1, if you didn't watch the match nd u were told the scoreline, wouldn't you be shocked Messi didn't score??
he has dropped deeper to accommodate Neymar nd Suarez, which is commendable but even at that, he still managed over 54 goals...

Mmmm.... Òmò shèpè. Frankly, you didn't say anything bad. Infact, like you said, even Messi knows he is different and needs to score more on the international stage. Yet, I love the lack of obsession in his game. If you did watch the match, or even the highlights, you would see his non-obssessive play. If he wanted to score, he would have scored. The second goal by Maria would attest to that. Watch the match highlights and confirm it for yourself.

So, it's clear he ain't the same. And he said he just doesn't understand why he is not lucky for the Abicelestes. Nevertheless, when I saw your siggy, afraid cash me. You must be forgetting someone.

COME SELF NA ONLY MESSI DEY PLAY FOR ARGENTINA, ABI NA MESSI PLAY NO9,


I GUESS EVEN IF MESSI STILL BE GOALKEEPER THEY WILL STILL HAVE SOMETIN TO SAY....


IF NOBODY TALKS ABOUT YOU, THEN YOURE NOBODY

Lets get something clear. Messi only drops deep at barcelona in the big games (and few times in other selected matches depending on how the game is panning out). Recall he only scored 2goals in the knockout of UCL and that was around 80min of play). Infact you would observe he plays the number 9 role against the smaller teams in Laliga with Suarez drifting outward for him. At NT, Messi cannot even always stay on the wings because ARG has so many attackers to accommodate and they can play the wings too. In essence, droping deep in ARG is a must, they have no creative spark in the midfield except attack plus you have to adjust to what suits your team best. Its a case of CF/CAM for Barca, While ARG its CM fully or CAM.
He can't do any wrong because it is his divine right now.

Krasid:
"Lord" Leo never does wrong in the eyes of barca fans.Always giving excuses for their god.'He drops deep', 'he is their playmaker', 'he is a CMF', but I have seen him dropping deep while playing for Barcelona and still delivering goals.Such hypocrites.

dmcdad:

Mmmm.... Òmò shèpè. Frankly, you didn't say anything bad. Infact, like you said, even Messi knows he is different and needs to score more on the international stage. Yet, I love the lack of obsession in his game. If you did watch the match, or even the highlights, you would see his non-obssessive play. If he wanted to score, he would have scored. The second goal by Maria would attest to that. Watch the match highlights and confirm it for yourself.

So, it's clear he ain't the same. And he said he just doesn't understand why he is not lucky for the Abicelestes. Nevertheless, when I saw your siggy, afraid cash me. You must be forgetting someone.

Ehen....na now u dey reason with me, no be make una let sentiments dey cloud una judgement...Messi has been known to be a selfless guy, he doesn't really get bothered, he goes about playing his game nd trying his best to make sure, even if he doesn't score, his team wud sha win nd he'll be happy, this is why I also respect Hazard, thaT's wat he does in Chelsea....buh some pple will b like Hazard nd his dribbles are useless, shey na sensible talk be dt at all



about my siggy, Neymar is a baller, a very good scorer I respect, he's got skills, can dribble, can assist, caN create chances, buh in Barca, he does the scoring better than the other stats, Messi is big boss in Barca, he does the dribbles, long sensible passes, create the goal scoring chances for Neymar nd Suarez to score, take defenders on and still manages to bang in much goals, all these EXCEPT high number of goals are what Hazard do in Chelsea too, hes like the teams star man saddled with the responsibility of creating the chances for Costa nd other teammates, na y I dey rate am pass Neymar b dt o.

jimmy4x:

Na make una just dey type rubbish dey taya me pass, must I be a Madrid fan to compare Messi's kinda play in club and country? ask Krasid, I love Messi 100000 times better than Ronaldo, he's the best in the world, do u know ow I exhort him to the high heavens when he performs well for Barca, that doesn't mean I shouldn't air my view, I asked you people a question, u keep typing BS, even Messi himself knows he's not scoring like he should, Wetin kon be una own wahala.
How will Argentina score 6 goals and Messi won't score just 1, if you didn't watch the match nd u were told the scoreline, wouldn't you be shocked Messi didn't score??
he has dropped deeper to accommodate Neymar nd Suarez, which is commendable but even at that, he still managed over 54 goals...

It's not a crime if he doesn't score. What matters is his team winning and they won . He made impact in all the matches played. So what's this arguments all about then ?

ollah1:


It's not a crime if he doesn't score. What matters is his team winning and they won . He made impact in all the matches played. So what's this arguments all about then ?

God bless u, the argument is about why people chuz to tag Hazard a failure and local champion (even when he made impact and was very influential in his teams success this season and even won the league's best player) because he doesn't score much goals like Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar, totally ignoring the other key qualities he brings to the team....do you think its right??

jimmy4x:

U no see as I ignore them, Messi that dropped deeper for Suarez nd Neymar ds season and still scored over 50 goals....is he not different from Argentina Messi who has scored just a single goal since Copa started.
When I saw 6-1 in their last match, I was like, at last Messi don score Hattrick or at worst 2 goals..
I was surprised when I realised he had no goal.
That's just not the Barca Messi I know, no pun intended.

This is what happens when so-called 'sensible football analysts' based their assessment of a player solely on goals and assists. Smh. You failed to look at the over-all performance of such player in the game,rather you focus on how many goals scored or assists made.

Danhumprey:
This is what happens when so-called 'sensible football analysts' based their assessment of a player solely on goals and assists. Smh. You failed to look at the over-all performance of such player in the game,rather you focus on how many goals scored or assists made.

abi o, I tire for people like Debroslink nd co, since Messi scored only a goal in d Copa, would u now tag him a failure cos of that??
if na Hazard now, chai....den for don kill am, even if na Belgium win, dem go say How many goals did he score sef.

jimmy4x:

abi o, I tire for people like Debroslink nd co, since Messi scored only a goal in d Copa, would u now tag him a failure cos of that??
if na Hazard now, chai....den for don kill am, even if na Belgium win, dem go say How many goals did he score sef.

That's my problem with Dayokanu and co. Anytime I read their comments slating Hazard for not scoring much goals and creating assists,I just Smh. It's very obvious that they are being sentimental. I don't blame them. To score goals involve teamwork in the build-up before one of the player put the ball behind the net. It take two to make and assist. One person can't do it alone. Messi and Hazard are two selfless players who are not so obsessed with goals,compared to Cr7.

marqueetim:
Lets get something clear. Messi only drops deep at barcelona in the big games (and few times in other selected matches depending on how the game is panning out). Recall he only scored 2goals in the knockout of UCL and that was around 80min of play). Infact you would observe he plays the number 9 role against the smaller teams in Laliga with Suarez drifting outward for him. At NT, Messi cannot even always stay on the wings because ARG has so many attackers to accommodate and they can play the wings too. In essence, droping deep in ARG is a must, they have no creative spark in the midfield except attack plus you have to adjust to what suits your team best. Its a case of CF/CAM for Barca, While ARG its CM fully or CAM.
He can't do any wrong because it is his divine right now.

Spare me the excuses.He scored 4 goals in the WC(just 2 behind the top scorer) playing in this deep position, didn't he? He has gotten a few chances in this tourney but hasn't taken it.

jimmy4x:

God bless u, the argument is about why people chuz to tag Hazard a failure and local champion (even when he made impact and was very influential in his teams success this season and even won the league's best player) because he doesn't score much goals like Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar, totally ignoring the other key qualities he brings to the team....do you think its right??

.....and how many posts have you read on this thread about Hazard being tagged a failure? I doubt if there's any.

Krasid:
Spare me the excuses.He scored 4 goals in the WC(just 2 behind the top scorer) playing in this deep position, didn't he? He has gotten a few chances in this tourney but hasn't taken it.

Hmmmmm....maybe your god would have score more than 3 hat-tricks since that's the only to measure his performance. oops, he's yet to drag his country to any finals.

sebod:

.....and how many posts have you read on this thread about Hazard being tagged a failure? I doubt if there's any.

Lol, bro, just visit Chelsea's thread....u go weep for Hazard , Wetin Raumdeuter and Debroslink dey even liken am to Pius ikedia, Joe Cole, Ahmed Musa and Denilson, they keep saying he's not better than them that he has only managed to score 7 UCL goals since he joined Chelsea and as such he's a failure.
that Muller, James, Pogba, Neymar and Bale are miles ahead and way better than him.


They will come here and tell you, he's useless for Belgium, like Ronaldo is bossing Portugal
they will tell you he has no UCL, he made PSG and atletico defeated Chelsea, he has no WC and that Muller, Gotze and all the other guys have won those trophies except him, hence he's useless and just a local champion, abeg, shey na one player they win trophies for team abi d whole team doing things right.

Heck, Hazard won a penalty and scored against PSG, which other attacker scored, is he also expected to go defend at the back against Luiz and Silva, didn't we all see how Terry and Cahill disgraced themselves??

How's that hazards fault.

jimmy4x:

abi o, I tire for people like Debroslink nd co, since Messi scored only a goal in d Copa, would u now tag him a failure cos of that??
if na Hazard now, chai....den for don kill am, even if na Belgium win, dem go say How many goals did he score sef.

It's goals and assists that win games. Messi has got about 6 assists(highest in the tournament) and 1 goal in 5 matches in playmaking position. That is about 70% of real output. He has about 3 MOTM awards already(more than anyone else) Whenever he's not scoring, he's providing direct assists.

I've not seen Ronaldo or Hazard perform to get such stats in international tournaments.

Show us the contribution of Hazard for Belgium in world cup or Euros, and I'll shut up forever.

Krasid:
Spare me the excuses.He scored 4 goals in the WC(just 2 behind the top scorer) playing in this deep position, didn't he? He has gotten a few chances in this tourney but hasn't taken it.

Don't mind the guy. He likes licking Messi's ass. Wondering why he won't score all the way to the finals. The Messi guy is a real joke. He should learn from Ronaldo that scores back to back hat trick and go trophyless but hell no he chose to make the team succesful rather than playing for individual accolade.

In Messi's diary. IT'S THE TEAM FIRST

jimmy4x:

Ehen....na now u dey reason with me, no be make una let sentiments dey cloud una judgement...Messi has been known to be a selfless guy, he doesn't really get bothered, he goes about playing his game nd trying his best to make sure, even if he doesn't score, his team wud sha win nd he'll be happy, this is why I also respect Hazard, thaT's wat he does in Chelsea....buh some pple will b like Hazard nd his dribbles are useless, shey na sensible talk be dt at all



about my siggy, Neymar is a baller, a very good scorer I respect, he's got skills, can dribble, can assist, caN create chances, buh in Barca, he does the scoring better than the other stats, Messi is big boss in Barca, he does the dribbles, long sensible passes, create the goal scoring chances for Neymar nd Suarez to score, take defenders on and still manages to bang in much goals, all these EXCEPT high number of goals are what Hazard do in Chelsea too, hes like the teams star man saddled with the responsibility of creating the chances for Costa nd other teammates, na y I dey rate am pass Neymar b dt o.

Nice analysis. But then, you failed in pointing out that Neymar does all that too, but is limited in Barça considering Messi's influence in the team. If you are gonna judge a player's total output, then do it in all ramifications. Aside judging them with club football, you have to take them also to the international stage. And there, Neymar does everything Harzard do in Chelsea, plus more. Now you will honestly face it that Harzard doesn't replicate such in Belgium. Infact, if we have to leave sentiments and be fair, we would agree that Kevin de Bruyne has been the leading man for Belgium for almost 2 years now. That says a lot.

My point? Every quality you highlighted for Hazard, Neymar has. Just because he is not the main man in Barça and thereby making him to hide or subdue certain parts of his game doesn't mean one would take it away from him. That is the more reason I included the NT to better understand his qualities. With that, it's only fair to agree that Neymar is just below Messi&Ronaldo. And above the likes of Harzard, Pogba, Bale et al. The future will tell if the table would turn, but for now, honestly, Neymar is ahead.

jimmy4x:

God bless u, the argument is about why people chuz to tag Hazard a failure and local champion (even when he made impact and was very influential in his teams success this season and even won the league's best player) because he doesn't score much goals like Messi, Ronaldo and Neymar, totally ignoring the other key qualities he brings to the team....do you think its right??

When Messi wasnt scoring he was assiting. He made 3 assists in the game vs Paraguay unlike Hazard thats a below average scorer and a below average assist provider

Debroslink:


It's goals and assists that win games. Messi has got about 6 assists(highest in the tournament) and 1 goal in 5 matches in playmaking position. That is about 70% of real output. He has about 3 MOTM awards already(more than anyone else) Whenever he's not scoring, he's providing direct assists.

I've not seen Ronaldo or Hazard perform to get such stats in international tournaments.

Show us the contribution of Hazard for Belgium in world cup or Euros, and I'll shut up forever.

How many international competitive tourney has Hazard featured in for Belgium sef?

Danhumprey:
That's my problem with Dayokanu and co. Anytime I read their comments slating Hazard for not scoring much goals and creating assists,I just Smh. It's very obvious that they are being sentimental. I don't blame them. To score goals involve teamwork in the build-up before one of the player put the ball behind the net. It take two to make and assist. One person can't do it alone. Messi and Hazard are two selfless players who are not so obsessed with goals,compared to Cr7.

Hazard is mediocre in goal scoring, mediocre in providing assists

He cant be compared to Messi who is excellent at both

Debroslink:


It's goals and assists that win games. Messi has got about 6 assists(highest in the tournament) and 1 goal in 5 matches in playmaking position. That is about 70% of real output. He has about 3 MOTM awards already(more than anyone else) Whenever he's not scoring, he's providing direct assists.

I've not seen Ronaldo or Hazard perform to get such stats in international tournaments.

Show us the contribution of Hazard for Belgium in world cup or Euros, and I'll shut up forever.

Well said

He wants to compare Messi who already has 6 assist to that failure called Ikedia Hazard