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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by nationwide1(m): 11:08pm On Jul 22, 2015
olapluto:
This thread does not merit fp. It is totally senseless and not having any significant importance. It is just a jobless guy listing wikipedia info here to justify his political stance. Buhari will get ministers in September. Until then, all your hues and cries make no sense.
If the thread is senseless, open your own to counter it.

'If you don't like my book, write your own' - Chinua Achebe.


Buhari made a statement which he (Barcanista) considered false and misleading and he decided to counter it. It's left for you to now prove him wrong but not by dismissing it with a wave of hand without making any valid point.

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by oloyede252(m): 11:11pm On Jul 22, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


smh
so you can type that,smh

I say to you good opposition is about cheaks and balances not based on hatred

you can still change your ways and be the opposition we need not the hate group we see

God bless us
God bless pmb
God bless Nigeria
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by dammytosh: 11:12pm On Jul 22, 2015
His Excellency said no appointment till September.

Opposition chief wailer can d1e writing long articles. It will not change anything.

Till 2019 when u will be relevant again before losing election that year again.


For now, shut up
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:25pm On Jul 22, 2015
oloyede252:

so you can type that,smh

I say to you good opposition is about cheaks and balances not based on hatred

you can still change your ways and be the opposition we need not the hate group we see

God bless us
God bless pmb
God bless Nigeria

Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by meritt: 11:27pm On Jul 22, 2015
Mogidi:
Just in case

www.nairaland.com/attachments/2656850_liar_jpeg45f32c1ead1f892b0af543f7a01665a7


It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full Cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim." -(Pres. Muhammadu Buhari)" Nothing to bath with acid for here just look at the issue carefully, and see from your assertion and table of appointment by OBAMA takes up to three months or not.. i can see january, february and march even April all in 2009. Is this anything to go by

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by meritt: 11:29pm On Jul 22, 2015
\It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full Cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim." -(Pres. Muhammadu Buhari)" Nothing to bath with acid for here just look at the issue carefully, and see from your assertion and table of appointment by OBAMA takes up to three months or not.. i can see january, february and march even April all in 2009. Is this anything to go by
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by oloyede252(m): 11:36pm On Jul 22, 2015
Whynotthetruth:

good night,hope you will think about what I said
May God bless us all
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Whynotthetruth(m): 11:42pm On Jul 22, 2015
oloyede252:

good night,hope you will think about what I said
May God bless us all
What did you say
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Nobody: 12:00am On Jul 23, 2015
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barcanista:
Goodmorning All, I woke up this morning to read this thread "Buhari's Article: Buhari Was Right On Obama's Cabinet". It was meant to counter the points raised on my thread where I exposed the lies of Buhari where he alleged that Obama appointed some Cabinet members some months into his administration in his first term https://www.nairaland.com/2465799/buharis-article-misinformation-facts-records. Permit me to quote the words of Muhammadu Buhari, because it will help in my argument.

"When cabinet ministers are appointed in September, it will be some months after I took the oath of office. It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full Cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim." --- (Pres. Muhammadu Buhari)"

Pls note the emboldened. I will hereafter analyse each and everyone that the OP of that thread brought up to serve his argument.

1. Gary Locke (2009-2011) - Secretary of Commerce (Nominated Feb 23, 2009):
I always advice people to get their fact right before coming out to counter people. After Obama was elected in November 2008, first nominee for the post of Secretary of Commerce was New Mexico Governor Bill Richardson. He was nominated on December 3, 2008. www.nytimes.com/2008/12/04/us/politics/04transition.html?referrer=&referrer=
However, Richardson had to clear the allegations against him. He withdrew his nomination on the 6th of January 2009 to clear his name. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/28493919/

Obama was to be sworn-in on January 20, 2009 without a Commerce Secretary. On Feb 4, 2009 (13 days after swearing in), he nominated republican Senator Judd Gregg as the new Commerce Secretary-designate. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2009/02/obam-f04.html

Again, Sen Gregg withdrew his nomination on Feb 11, 2009 because he had opposed some Obama policies. www.politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/12/breaking-gregg-withdraws-from-consideration-for-commerce-post/#more-39861

Mr Gary Lock was the third nominee for this position in Obama's first term. He was nominated on Feb 23, 2009. Even befor Garry lock was confirmed, Mr Otto Wolff was acting in that capacity from January 20, 2009.

2. Kathleen Sebelius (2009-2014) - Secretary of Health and Human Services:
Like I said earlier Barak Obama made all his first term Cabinet nominations about a month before his first inauguration. Tom A. Daschle was the first nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Services. He was nominated on the December 10, 2008.
www.nytimes.com/2008/12/12/us/politics/w11health.html?hp&referrer=

Unfortunately, Mr Daschle had to withdraw his nomination on Feb 02, 2009 over his tax issue and alleged conflict of interest. www.publicradio.org/columns/kpcc/kpccnewsinbrief/2009/02/daschle-withdraws-as-nominee-f.html
Kathleen Sebelius was nominated on Feb 23 same year as a replacement.

3. Sally Jewell (2013-present) - Secretary of the Interior
It is unfortunate that the author of the thread mentioned Sally Jewell who only came in after Obama's second inauguration. The first nominee/occupant of this office was Sen Ken Salazar, who was nominated of December 17, 2008.www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=98347731
He was sworn-in on January 20, 2009. Same day with Obama.

On January 16, 2013 Salzaar was reported to have tendered his resignation from the cabinet. His resignation was however delayed until March 2013 pending the confirmation of Sally Jewell the new Nominee who was nominated in February. This in fact, was even Obama's second term.
www.news.yahoo.com/ap-source-interior-secretary-ken-salazar-leaving-121750247--politics.html

4. Penny Pritzker (2013-present) - Secretary of Commerce:
It is very unfortunate that the OP even brought people that came in after Obama's second inauguration.
Before Penny Pritzker came to office, Gary Locke (March 2009-Aug 2011), John Bryson (Oct 2011- June 2012) were former occupants of the office.
After Bryson sudden resignation in June 2012 Obama appointed Dr Blank to act the interim because it was an election year.
www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/john-bryson-resigns-as-commerce-secretary-citing-recent-seizure/2012/06/21/gJQAkkissV_story.html

Penny was nominated on 01 Feb, 2013.

5. Thomas Perez (2013−present) - Secretary of Labor:
Before Thomas Perez came to office, there was Mrs Hilda Solis who occupied the office. Solis was nominated in December 19, 2008 when Obama was President-elect. She was confirmed and Sworn-in on Jan 29, 2009 (9 days after Obama's first inauguration).
www.ehstoday.com/safety/news/obama_solis_labor_1223

Solis however made known her resignation on January 9, 2013 and left on Jan 22.
www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/10/labor-secretary-hilda-solis-resigns/

Perez was nominated as a replacement.

6. Anthony Foxx (2013-present) - Secretary of Transportation:
Finally, the first nominee/occupant of this office was Republican Ray LaHood. He was nominated on December 19, 2008 when Obama was President-elect. He was confirmed on Jan 22, 2009 (2 day after Obama's first inauguration) and was sworn-in Jan 23, 2009 (48hrs after Obama's inauguration) www.nytimes.com/2009/01/22/us/politics/22lahood.html?referrer=

On Jan 29, 2013 he announced that he will step down from the seat when a new nominee is confirmed. Obama nominated Anthony Foxx as replacement. Foxx was confirmed and Sworn-in July 02, 2013 (same day Ray Lahood left office).

I believe I have cleared all reasonable doubt that Buhari was clueless when he made the quoted statement above.

I believe that this article also make nonsense to whatever defence that the Buhari crew had earlier put up. However, I shall avail myself for me when called on for further debate.


May God Bless Us All
Guy go sleep
You think you know too much
Buy presidential form nxt election.

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by amaben2020(m): 12:01am On Jul 23, 2015
Buhari, the pampers king of the North
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BushidoBlue(m): 1:08am On Jul 23, 2015
barcanista:
And Buhari woke up to compare himself with such a man. Now I see why Obama left him in the US to travel to Kenya. He must have seriously felt offended

This is the sucker punch.... to bed I go... Chai!!!!

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BraniacX(m): 1:36am On Jul 23, 2015
joseph1832:
is a dementia patient any better than a clueless and senseless cretin?


Do they even know the meaning of dementia? SMH foy those lying liars undecided
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BraniacX(m): 1:53am On Jul 23, 2015
KruggerINC:


If you're half as intelligent as you try to portray yourself to be in the above article then how can u be so blind that you can't see a good thing for what it is.Mr Barcanaista whatever u may say,how ever u may say and under whatever circumstances u say it PMB is a million times better than GEJ as president of this great country.It hurts and baffles me when I see the way some people blindly followed PDP and GEJ...Well change has come and the thing is even people like you that are blind will still eventually benefit from the positive change that is inevitably coming to this country.

Talking about blind followership, have you objectively self Analysed and looked at your mirror recently? Are you a rational logical thinking person or one of the many americans like to call shee-ple without an individual mind of their own who only follow what the crowd says? Prove me wrong and give me 10 reasons GMB is better than GEJ that you know of personally and didn't hear in the media undecided
And talking about change, what change? Seriously WHAT CHANGE? Apart from the obviously fruitless and counter productive witch hunting in the civil and security services, what change are you talking about? Mention anything else you want to allude to as change and i will show you that it is a continuation of GEJ's TRANSFORMATION AGENDA plus Buhari's worthless rhetoric to cover up his and the APC's apparent cluelessness so yes we will benefit too, that is if GMB doesn't screw it up before it gets to our turn to benefit and we will be owing GEJ our gratitude

So tell me, who do you really objectively and logically think is clueless now?

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BraniacX(m): 2:06am On Jul 23, 2015
ayindejimmy:
I just discovered the mods of this forum are hell bent on promoting this Barcanista fellow.
For how do you account for putting every tread he post on front page?
Please, some of us have a life.
I come hear to read news, not gossips or counter gossips

These(barcanista's) reffutal's are not gossip but truths meant to re-educate you and your ilk, that you reject the obvious truth which you can obtain yourself from the most minimal of research efforts says much more about you than you're willing to admit. Being a lying liar is not the path to salvation for our country and your immortal soul

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BraniacX(m): 2:11am On Jul 23, 2015
nobeku:
Barcanista or whatever he calls himself is not an A class student..Not a flying colur student in any way..atleast when he was in school...Na him type dey read from morning till morning only to get a "grin" in the course he was jacking for...

Barcanista we know.......
...........Who you be? undecided
.......And seriously, coming here to form first class student? SMH, if only me ehn!!, only me not even barcanista tackle you, all your moonlight jacking go poof!! (Evaporate) once

The way you even write your jacking you seem to be a former Uniben student (na we lingo be that) if true, then am disappointed in you

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BraniacX(m): 2:21am On Jul 23, 2015
Firefire:
Children of hate are around, nothing concrete to post but lamentation... cheesy

It takes a discerning, rational and objective mind(brain) to sift through information, find facts and accept them whether they be pro or contrary to an opinion or point of view, that you read through and concluded all you see is hate goes much to say how badly your mind needs saving from spoonfed hypocrisy and propaganda, i wish you a successful recovery but i doubt you'll ever fully recover.
The Lying liars have done a serious mindswipe on you
Eeeeeeeeeeya!! embarassed
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Max24: 4:21am On Jul 23, 2015
tucky200:

Oga my question is ..how many month did it take barack obama to appoint a full cabinet ??
Because I knw buhari have started appointing his agencies..and what he meant was that it took barack obama some month before he appointed full cabinet
So, agencies are now cabinet? Then by your reasoning d new DG of DSS, acting chairperson of INEC, NIMASA ,new Accountant General are all cabinet members. Nigerians and mediocrity !
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by bellras(m): 4:29am On Jul 23, 2015
Haters and political jobers should go and die if he didn't constitute his cabinet in the next one year. What is all these hulabalu about nothing. Is Nigerian not moving better without all your useless ministers you are clamouring for? Nigerians would not learn!!! Buhari will succeed by His grace.

Haters should go to hell !!!

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by ayindejimmy(m): 4:30am On Jul 23, 2015
BraniacX:


These(barcanista's) reffutal's are not gossip but truths meant to re-educate you and your ilk, that you reject the obvious truth which you can obtain yourself from the most minimal of research efforts says much more about you than you're willing to admit. Being a lying liar is not the path to salvation for our country and your immortal soul

*I'm not here insult people.*

What you're putting to me is: Your friend does more research than anybody, right?
Or the American govt, PDP and the Nigerian press didn’t hear Buhari make those comparison?
When it's time to criticize this govt, believe me, sane people will. Until then, all this are just blatant and inconspicuous accusations

Take or leave, he's where he is cos of what he can gain. If the FG engage him now, the song will CHANGE.

So, ask yourselves.
"What's my motivating factor in seeing negativity in everything a 6 week govt does? "
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Max24: 4:38am On Jul 23, 2015
meritt:



It is worth noting that Obama himself did not have his full Cabinet in place for several months after first taking office; the United States did not cease to function in the interim." -(Pres. Muhammadu Buhari)" Nothing to bath with acid for here just look at the issue carefully, and see from your assertion and table of appointment by OBAMA takes up to three months or not.. i can see january, february and march even April all in 2009. Is this anything to go by
Ok. So has Buhari named one cabinet memeber? Obama started naming his a day after inauguration( Hilary Clinton). Has GMB named any 60days+ after inauguration?

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by psalmizt(m): 5:19am On Jul 23, 2015
tucky200:

Oga my question is ..how many month did it take barack obama to appoint a full cabinet ??
Because I knw buhari have started appointing his agencies..and what he meant was that it took barack obama some month before he appointed full cabinet

And what constitutes a full cabinet? In the Nigerian case do u even have any cabinet member after 2months?

All these Buhari is taking his time talk is balderdash and unintelligible remark by those who shoukd know. Running the country for months without even an SGF nor SAs is tantamount to be a Sole Administrator. Buhari is holy,he is blameless,he does no wrong,he is infallible, dey there dey deceive yourself. I wonder atimes if we truly have a future if the supposed leaders of tomorrow can't even argue logically...

Now to clear some doubts, I do not mean to say Buhari doesn't have good intentions, I believe he does, but he must learn to be flexible. That's what being a democrat means.

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Nobody: 5:35am On Jul 23, 2015
Local champion things,brcanisa,get a life please
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by PRYCE(m): 5:59am On Jul 23, 2015
olapluto:
This thread does not merit fp. It is totally senseless and not having any significant importance. It is just a jobless guy listing wikipedia info here to justify his political stance. Buhari will get ministers in September. Until then, all your hues and cries make no sense.
Who Made you judge and jury on 'Senseless things'? Anyway, It takes one to know one!
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Nobody: 6:44am On Jul 23, 2015
AprokoMan:


...it takes serious effort to stop a severe bleeding. One can't reasonably compare a 5 years tenure to a barely 2 months tenure. The killing in the North will sooner than later reach anti-climax. I'm not questioning your questions, just we should not end up being an ungrateful nation. Criticism is healthy,let's make it reasonably.
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Nobody: 6:44am On Jul 23, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


I don't underrate people... I rather confront them with the truth wink
the truth you don't know about? Lol..
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by handsomeyitayo(m): 6:56am On Jul 23, 2015
olapluto:
This thread does not merit fp. It is totally senseless and not having any significant importance. It is just a jobless guy listing wikipedia info here to justify his political stance. Buhari will get ministers in September. Until then, all your hues and cries make no sense.
neva mind make barcanista dey yan opata..him dey waste him time..instead of him doin reasonable things na rubbish be dis
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by bayulll01(m): 7:10am On Jul 23, 2015
AprokoMan:

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Lol eleyi ti ya werey oooo,you need serious attentions else your case will be worst than barcanista himself that is suffering from stupiiidity,so got fan here u ve been stalking me abi,me I don't know you ooo
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Nobody: 7:12am On Jul 23, 2015
barcanista:
Thank you and God bless you. When the President-elect Obama nominated his FULL Cabinet it was sent to the Congress pending confirmation. He did not even wait for one month to make his first full cabinet nominations. He started almost immediately he was elected and concluded about a month and some days after his election- about a month to the day of his first inauguration.
He is the president and if he says he is appointing anybody yet then that's final cos we believe he knows what he's doing! With the type of rubbish setting he met in place you don't expect him to jump into stup!!d irrational decision. Other presidents that's have rush in there choice where have they taken us?? Now someone his doing it different you re somewhere behind your phone or pc complaining and the bad part is you keep paying heavy for data as a result of corruption and extortion from ISP. You had better leave all this tantrums and support the new system.
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by Nobody: 7:20am On Jul 23, 2015
Dharniel:


excuse me, i'm not complimenting you neither am i insulting you. whenever i read any anti-APC thread or post on NL, all i see is bigotry and unbiased claims. the points they try to make is so full of insults, hatred and lies. their love for PDP and GEJ in person has blinded them in such a way that they refuse to see the truth. but in your case it's the other way round, i see your facts are well researched and well articulated and i sometimes share your opinion even though we are not on the same side. you said the others are been patriotic, patriotic my foot. they know nothing about patriotism, the fact that they have pledged their allegiance to PDP doesn't mean one should not see the truth even when it's crystal clear...
You just allowed this dude to make a star out of you cheesy, Patriotic my foot, if Buhari ask him to come for just an handshake, i bet he won't wash his hand throughout that day after the shake. Let Tinubu just throw him an iphone 5, his tongue will change, his finger nd lips will declare APC anywhere he goes cheesy
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by BraniacX(m): 7:31am On Jul 23, 2015
ayindejimmy:


*I'm not here insult people.*

What you're putting to me is: Your friend does more research than anybody, right?
Or the American govt, PDP and the Nigerian press didn’t hear Buhari make those comparison?
When it's time to criticize this govt, believe me, sane people will. Until then, all this are just blatant and inconspicuous accusations

Take or leave, he's where he is cos of what he can gain. If the FG engage him now, the song will CHANGE.

So, ask yourselves.
"What's my motivating factor in seeing negativity in everything a 6 week govt does? "

You make accusations and aspersions that can neither be verified statistically, empirically nor factually about yours and barcanista's motivating factor and are also secondary to the topic of conversation and therefore a digression, the topic of conversation can be verified factually and if google or wikipedia aren't credible enough sources for you, you can make use of the library of congress which you can't refute, buhari not appointing a cabinet is affecting governance, economy and other indices that might be too vague for us to notice but with very subtle and/or overtly real consequences on our daily life, so if you want us to spare this government from criticism on the mantra of CHANGE(which is taking too long if you ask me), let them not give us anything to criticise in the first place

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Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by engineerboat(m): 7:32am On Jul 23, 2015
GangsterRevd:


You seem unemployed? Just curious.

so for saying the truth now translate to joblessness. But for Propaganda and lies nko. CHANGErians pls wake up this is NIGERIA, Stop Propaganda and lies, NIGRIAN tired of your Photo-show, get down to work. The day is going the sun is gradualling setting for this govt
Re: Buhari Article On Obama's Cabinet(2): PMB Was Absolutely Wrong by engineerboat(m): 7:40am On Jul 23, 2015
bayulll01:


Lol eleyi ti ya werey oooo,you need serious attentions else your case will be worst than barcanista himself that is suffering from stupiiidity,so got fan here u ve been stalking me abi,me I don't know you ooo

Nipa oro enu won, ni a o fi mo won, CHANJI indeed, while will CHANGErian want to force PROPANGADA on NIGERIANS, for Gods sake the last time i check, ELECTION is over. Why using false claim on Obama administration appointment, we are in a global world for Gods sake, you cannot hide facts and truth. All this govt is doing is accuse accuse accuse with now facts just to gain public sympathy, CHANGErians this will not work NIGERIANS are now wise

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