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Re: The Lying Deity by lanrexlan(m): 10:18am On Jan 05, 2015
PastorKun:


But it was you muslim brethen that terrorised him to restrict the section to only muslims and also get it moderated by the most intolerant islamist on NL.
Mister Kunle or Pastor Kunle(who annoit you self), if you have nothing reasonable to say you can keep quiet than making silly claims without proofs.

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Re: The Lying Deity by Rilwayne001: 10:37am On Jan 05, 2015
truthman2012:
@lanrexlan

You expect me to leave my daughter on air looking for camera under such an emergency? What sense does that make to you? Besides, the event took place about 20 years ago when there were no camera phones.

You muslims have no knowledge of workings of the true God. Miracles are not for display or show-off to tempt God. Satan asked Jesus to display miracles (Mat. 4:3-7) but He declined. Muslims and atheists are trying to tempt God like satan did. Smh!



Infact i don't need to visit the joke section again grin grin grin this guy is one damn comedian liar grin grin
Re: The Lying Deity by truthman2012(m): 11:58am On Jan 05, 2015
lanrexlan:
Mister Kunle or Pastor Kunle(who annoit you self), if you have nothing reasonable to say you can keep quiet than making silly claims without proofs.


You muslim guys are truely terrorists. If you could be this aggresive online, one wonders what you can do face to face.
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 11:58am On Jan 05, 2015
Rilwayne001:


Infact i don't need to visit the joke section again grin grin grin this guy is one damn comedian liar grin grin
the message of the cross is foolishness to you, muhammed is like the ethiopian eunuch who was reading the bible but failed to understand until Philip ask him ''do you understand what you are reading?'' The man say ''how can I understand when no one to teach me'' muhammed read the bible but never understand it meaning that why he contradicted the gospel.


You are like the reprobat nation whom isaiah talk about in isaiah 6
This is what happened to the people, a reprobate nation;

Isaiah 6:8:12.
Then I heard the voice of the Lord
saying, “Whom shall I send? And who will
go for us?”
And I said, “Here am I. Send me!”
9 He said, “Go and tell this people:
“‘Be ever hearing, but never
understanding;
be ever seeing, but never perceiving.’
10
Make the heart of this people calloused;
make their ears dull
and close their eyes.[ a]
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
hear with their ears,
understand with their hearts,
and turn and be healed.”
11 Then I said, “For how long, Lord?”
And he answered:
“Until the cities lie ruined
and without inhabitant,
until the houses are left deserted
and the fields ruined and ravaged,
12
until the Lord has sent everyone far away
and the land is utterly forsaken.

Jesus has already die for you, repent and be saved.
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 12:03pm On Jan 05, 2015
truthman2012:


Muslims and atheists perception of miracles.

You can't tempt God or display miracle as a show-off.
excellent post sir, Muslim and atheists are no different, they don't believe in miracle. May God save there soul.
Re: The Lying Deity by truthman2012(m): 2:21pm On Jan 05, 2015
malvisguy212:
excellent post sir, Muslim and atheists are no different, they don't believe in miracle. May God save there soul.

Amen, thanks.

It takes Jesus intervention for muslims to see Satan in their religion. With all the atrocities, including sex.ual crimes, how does Muhamad qualify to be God's prophet? Which prophet was a sinner like him?
Re: The Lying Deity by Rilwayne001: 4:59pm On Jan 05, 2015
truthman2012:


You muslim guys are truely terrorists. If you could be this aggresive online, one wonders what you can do face to face.

How is he aggressive? is your brain failing you that much not to have recognise an agressive words? grin
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 5:23pm On Jan 05, 2015
truthman2012:


Amen, thanks.

It takes Jesus intervention for muslims to see Satan in their religion. With all the atrocities, including sex.ual crimes, how does Muhamad qualify to be God's prophet? Which prophet was a sinner like him?

Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 5:24pm On Jan 05, 2015
truthman2012:


Amen, thanks.

It takes Jesus intervention for muslims to see Satan in their religion. With all the atrocities, including sex.ual crimes, how does Muhamad qualify to be God's prophet? Which prophet was a sinner like him?

you are very correct, thank you for your wonderful contribution,I read most of your thread and post on nairaland, you are a blessing to Christianity .non of the Muslim even attempt to debunked the op, whenever Muslim claimed Jesus perform miracle in the name of allah, we should shere this thread with him. Stay blessed
Re: The Lying Deity by truthman2012(m): 7:05pm On Jan 05, 2015
malvisguy212:
you are very correct, thank you for your wonderful contribution,I read most of your thread and post on nairaland, you are a blessing to Christianity .non of the Muslim even attempt to debunked the op, whenever Muslim claimed Jesus perform miracle in the name of allah, we should shere this thread with him. Stay blessed

Amen, thank you very much.

Our labour shall not be in vain in Jesus name.
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 7:09pm On Jan 05, 2015
truthman2012:


Amen, thank you very much.

Our labour shall not be in vain in Jesus name.
amen.thank you.

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Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 12:22am On Jan 18, 2015
malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 4:00pm On Feb 08, 2015
[quote author=malvisguy212 post=29890551][/quote]
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 10:54pm On Feb 13, 2015
malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 11:33pm On Feb 24, 2015
malvisguy212:
Bible record shows that at the very beginning of his ministry, Jesus
encountered a spirit creature who confronted him with the sole
intention of breaking his integrity. Jesus was destined to become the
cornerstone of the Christian faith and Satan wanted to destroy the
foundation upon which Christianity was to be built. However, Jesus
foiled the plans of Satan by not submitting to his crafty designs. And Satan fled. The full account of Jesus’ encounter with Satan can be read
at Matthew 4:1-11.


At the beginning of his calling as Allah’s messenger, Muhammad too
came into contact with a spirit creature in the cave of Hira. This
encounter terrified Muhammad. He became convinced that the spirit
creature was a demon. And Muhammad fled. However, he was later
led to believe that this spirit creature was an angelic messenger from
Allah – a medium to receive revelations from Allah. Was Muhammad deceived?
If the angelic messenger who spoke to Muhammad was truly sent by
God, then Muhammad is the first person in recorded history to
mistaken a “messenger of God” for a demon. According to his own
testimony, he at first thought that the angel was a demon, from whom
he ran and hid in fear. Muhammad only realized his “error” after his
wife – a business woman, who never saw or heard the supernatural messenger – convinced him otherwise.Muhammad thought he was possessed by a
demon, until his wife reassured him that he had become a prophet.
Through Khadijah’s persuasion, he came to believe that he had
received a divine mission from God.


The most important difference between the callings of God’s prophets
in the Bible and Muhammad’s calling is that there is not a single
incident in the Bible where someone confused the calling of God with
that of Satan. When God spoke, not one of those called by Him ever
said: “I wonder if this is from God or Satan?” In all cases, the calling of
God was so convincing, so conclusive and so authoritative that the recipients of the divine mission were immediately certain. There was
no question as to who originated the call. Neither was there a need for
the assurance of anyone else. The divine callings experienced by the
prophets of the true God were completely different from the one
experienced by Muhammad. Jesus Christ gave the following warning: Matthew 12:31: “Therefore I say unto you, every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men; but the blasphemy against the holy spirit shall not be forgiven.” One of the unforgivable sins against the Holy Spirit is to ascribe the works of God to Satan. Coming to Muhammad, we are left with two
options. One: Muhammad was wrong when he concluded that the calling of God was from Satan. Two: Muhammad was right when he concluded that the calling, which came through the angel, was from
Satan. If Muhammad was wrong when he interpreted the calling of God as coming from Satan, then he ensnared himself by ascribing the works of
God to the Devil. And by claiming that Islam is built on the foundation
of Judaism and Christianity, Muhammad placed himself under the
divine judgment of the Holy Bible. According to the divine laws of the
Holy Bible, he blasphemed against the Holy Spirit and thus committed
the unforgivable sin. However, if Muhammad was right and the angelic visitor was indeed from Satan, then a false religion began in
the cave that day – a religion inspired by none other than Satan
himself. Either option disqualifies Muhammad as a prophet of the true
God. And at the same instant, Islam is disqualified as the religion of the
true God.
Re: The Lying Deity by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:10am On Mar 29, 2015
malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?



That camel era is the time of Moses.... Isrealites only believed in miracle.. God sent them the camel and told them to take care of it but they later killed it
Stop sending miracles to them (Israelites) that's why Mohammad was from Arab.
Problem solved?
Re: The Lying Deity by shahydbinaliyu(m): 8:13am On Mar 29, 2015
[quote author=malvisguy212 post=27514258]According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus? [/quot


That one God that jesus do call father is ALLAH
Jesus said himself that i cannot do anything except from my father
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 8:22am On Apr 12, 2015
[quote author=shahydbinaliyu post=32121991][/quote]rubbish.
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 8:29am On Apr 16, 2015
malvisguy212:
According to the Qur’an the final miracle performed by Allah was a
huge she-camel that he produced out of a rock.
Surah 7:73: “Indeed there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge she camel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord.” (Hilali-Khan)
And Surah 17:59 gives us the reason why Allah stopped sending miracles anymore after he had miraculously produced the she-camel out of a rock.
Surah 17:59: “And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false: We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

As we can see, the word “Sign” in this verse denotes the visible and clearly observable miracle of Allah. The Sign or Miracle that Allah sent in this specific instant was a she-camel that was visible to the people of Thamud. The miracle was sent to open their eyes but they treated
the she-camel wrongly and killed her. After this incident, Allah decided not to send any more miracles in the future. What can we conclude by
the above words of Allah in Surah 17:59?


1. It shows that Allah has “stopped sending miracles.” This means that long before the coming of Muhammad, Allah has decided to stop
sending miracles. Hence, if the Qur’an is true, then Muhammad could
not have performed any miracle. Therefore, whenever Muslims proudly
claim that their Prophet performed many miracles, they are at the
same instant admitting that Allah lied in Surah 17:59.
2. It specifies Allah’s reason for not sending miracles. This verse states that Allah found it pointless to perform miracles “because the men of former generations treated them as false.” In other words, Allah has stopped sending miracles because people in the past did not
believe in them.
3. It shows in which period of time Allah made a decision to stop sending miracles.

More than twenty Qur’anic passages show that whenever Muhammad
was asked by his contemporaries to perform a single miracle, he either
remained silent or said that he could not do so because he was no
more than just an ordinary human being. The most explicit of these
passages is in
Surah 17:90-93:
They said, “We will not believe you unless you cause a spring to
gush out of the ground. “Or unless you own a garden of date palms
and grapes, with rivers running through it. “Or unless you cause
masses from the sky, as you claimed, to fall on us. Or unless you
bring GOD and the angels before our eyes. “Or unless you own a
luxurious mansion, or unless you climb into the sky. Even if you do climb, we will not believe unless you bring a book that we can
read.” Say, “Glory be to my Lord. AM I ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN MESSENGER?” (Khalifa)

We will now analyze Surah 17:59 once again but from a different point of view:
As a result of the above insolent act of the people of Thamud, Surah 17:59 testifies that Allah has now refrained from sending miracles. The Qur’an does not mention the time period when Prophet Salih was sent to the people of Thamud. But, we can say with certainty that it
must be BEFORE the time of Jesus Christ, because according to Muhammad himself, there were no prophets or apostles between the
time of Jesus and Muhammad. In other words, the only “Prophet” who
was sent after Jesus was Muhammad.

Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Hadith Number 5835: Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him)
as saying: I am most akin to Jesus Christ among the whole of
mankind, and all the Prophets are of different mothers but belong
to one religion and no PROPHET WAS RAISE BETWEEN ME AND JESUS.

The Hadith states that “no Prophet was raised between (Muhammad) and Jesus,” Therefore, Salih could not have been sent after the arrival of Jesus but before. Otherwise, it would place him between Jesus and Muhammad. Therefore, Allah must have stopped
sending miracles long before Jesus set foot on earth. Yet, the Qur’an admits that Jesus performed many miracles and it even describes some
of his miracles. Surah 3:49: And I (Jesus) heal the blind and the leprous, and bring the dead to life with Allah’s permission. (Shakir)

How can this be possible? This shows that Allah’s claim in the Qur’an
that he was the source behind the powerful works of Jesus is a lie. By
his own admission, Allah could not be the one who empowered Jesus
with miracles. He simply could not be the originator of Jesus’
miraculous works. Who then is the source of the miracles of Jesus?
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 3:38pm On Jun 05, 2015
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Re: The Lying Deity by Nobody: 8:50pm On Jul 30, 2015
@malvisguy212 LIES LIES LIES, translated the verse wrongly just to blasphem! Here is the translation, "and NOTHING stops us from sending the ayat, but that the people of old denied them. and we sent the she-camel to Thamud as a clear sign, but they did her wrong. and we sent not the signs EXCEPT to warn, and to make them afraid" now its clear from your translation that you removed the word arabic word ILLA(NOTHING), how deceptive!!! why must you change the words of the quran to support your false claims?
Re: The Lying Deity by johnydon22(m): 10:17pm On Jul 30, 2015
malvisguy212:
excellent post sir, Muslim and atheists are no different, they don't believe in miracle. May God save there soul.
Funny enough i saw you arguing that God never split the moon through muhammed.. so you don't believe in miracles either and you are accusing others when they don't believe your own claim? Think about it ..

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Re: The Lying Deity by hahn(m): 10:18pm On Jul 30, 2015
Weah96:


Tell them again. The bible, I'm willing to wager, has more credulity defying things than the Quran.

So then, you agree the quran isn't perfect either.

In your attempt to force the drowning man into the water, you ended up drowning yourself
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 10:44pm On Jul 30, 2015
johnydon22:
Funny enough i saw you arguing that God never split the moon through muhammed.. so you don't believe in miracles either and you are accusing others when they don't believe your own claim? Think about it ..
if I say God did not split the moon through muhammed, does it mean I never believe in miracle or I did not believe in the "splitting of the moon" ?
Re: The Lying Deity by johnydon22(m): 10:53pm On Jul 30, 2015
malvisguy212:
if I say God did not split the moon through muhammed, does it mean I never believe in miracle or I did not believe in the "splitting of the moon" ?
It means you choose the ones you believe same way muslims choose theirs yet you accuse them of not believing in miracles because they don't believe yours... You are as guilty as the ones you accuse
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 10:58pm On Jul 30, 2015
johnydon22:
It means you choose the ones you believe same way muslims choose theirs yet you accuse them of not believing in miracles because they don't believe yours... You are as guilty as the ones you accuse
Allah refrain from sending sign long before muhammed. And the fact that muhammed admits, he cannot performed miracle because he is only a human mean we have to question the splitting of the moon, who empowered him ?
Re: The Lying Deity by Nobody: 7:14am On Jul 31, 2015
it so funny how these christians folks console themselves when they are being put to shame, why didnt malvisguy212 reply my refutal to his op? one simple word caused it, COWARDICE is the word.
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 7:18am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
it so funny how these christians folks console themselves when they are being put to shame, why didnt malvisguy212 reply my refutal to his op? one simple word caused it, COWARDICE is the word.
your post make no sense.
Re: The Lying Deity by Nobody: 7:21am On Jul 31, 2015
malvisguy212:
your post make no sense.
lol, it doesnt make sense to you cuz its the truth, isnt it an irony that the truth is bitter when told?
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 8:12am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
lol, it doesnt make sense to you cuz its the truth, isnt it an irony that the truth is bitter when told?
are all this translations wrong?

Surah 17:59:
“And We refrain from sending the Signs, only because the men of former generations treated them as false : We sent the she-camel to the Thamud to open their eyes, but they treated her wrongfully: We only send the Signs by way of terror (and warning from evil).” (Yusuf Ali)

“Nothing hindered us from sending
(thee) with miracles, except that the
former (nations) have charged them with imposture. We gave unto (the
tribe of) Thamud, (at their demand),
the she-camel visible (to their sight);
yet they dealt unjustly with her: And
we send not (a prophet) with
miracles , but to strike terror.” (Sale)

“What stopped us from sending the
miracles is that the previous
generations have rejected them. For
example, we showed Thamoud the
camel, a profound (miracle), but
they transgressed against it. We sent
the miracles only to instill
reverence.” (Khalifa)
Re: The Lying Deity by Nobody: 8:33am On Jul 31, 2015
yes malvisguy212 there are wrong! these translations has been concocted either by you or from an islamophobe site.
Re: The Lying Deity by malvisguy212: 8:55am On Jul 31, 2015
lexiconkabir:
yes malvisguy212 there are wrong! these translations has been concocted either by you or from an islamophobe site.
okay!!! You know more than yusuf Ali. When will you translate your version of the quran?

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